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  • terror k07terror k07 Joined: Posts: 254
    blanka, vega, bison, balrog, rufus, yang, c viper
  • Coth_XCoth_X G(x) = (3/(1-3x)) - 3 - 3x - 27x^2 Joined: Posts: 4,340
    Ken fell through the lariat because it alternates I think. And its psn, the netcode sucks.

    And BR, gan was saying that sfii isn't suppose to have any input delay. Except for maybe one frame for processing?

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  • philcitophilcito The Berserker Shoto Joined: Posts: 1,178
    to all sfiv players posting in this thread, THIS IS STREET FIGHTER II, BEST FIGHTING GAME EVER!.
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  • thanks_tablethanks_table double buttrape Joined: Posts: 102
    Ken fell through the lariat because it alternates I think. And its psn, the netcode sucks.

    I thought it was a fluke psn lag issue, but I set it up a few times and it consistently happened. Alternating wouldn't have been a factor because it's not like I had Zangief spinning around wildly waiting for Ken to fall into it- I opened it up clean into his face.
    I just feel like too many fishy things happen with Ken. In my opinion, when a character totally whiffs a supermove (or any big move) it should be pretty much a freebie to get some punishment in on them. It's just not the case with Ken.
    If you look at the admittedly limited personality arcs of Street Fighter characters, it's incorporated into Ken's persona that he's reckless, rebellious, and very rich, right? I think those three qualities end up being indicative of how he's played. Whatever, a lot of people love him. I happen not to.
    to all sfiv players posting in this thread, THIS IS STREET FIGHTER II, BEST FIGHTING GAME EVER!.

    I'd agree that SF2 (especially HDR) is the best fighting game of all time, and Capcom vs SNK 2 and the first Marvel vs Capcom (2 and 3 are terrible) are also up there in my opinion.
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  • philcitophilcito The Berserker Shoto Joined: Posts: 1,178
    i love how they hate the best character ever, Ken!
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  • Coth_XCoth_X G(x) = (3/(1-3x)) - 3 - 3x - 27x^2 Joined: Posts: 4,340
    nonsense about ken's super

    It is free damage when ken whiffs super. Nothing weird goes on at all. There is barely any ground recovery and hitting him out of the air isn't hard at all.

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  • thanks_tablethanks_table double buttrape Joined: Posts: 102
    It is free damage when ken whiffs super. Nothing weird goes on at all. There is barely any ground recovery and hitting him out of the air isn't hard at all.

    To say "nothing weird goes on at all" in regards to Ken's ability to recover from a missed super is actually outrageous. It sounds like you're exhibiting bias as a Ken player (which I'm only guessing you are,) even to the point of refusing to accept someone else's opinion- which has been based on actual observation.
    I've talked to a fair amount of other players, some of whom even main with Ken, who say his ability to come out with a throw or dp from a missed dp or super can get a little crazy... You're actually one of the only people I've ever talked to who has said otherwise. Maybe it's because of lag since I almost exclusively play online, but that isn't the point. This thread is called Most Hated Character, not Become Indignant When Someone Doesn't Like The Same Character as You and Then Insult Them by Referring to Their Legitimate Comment as "Nonsense". You actually had to go out of your way to change my quote to that- which is totally lame, and hyper defensive. I'm just trying to post my Most Hated Character, like everybody else.
  • oldschool_BRoldschool_BR Projectile spammer Joined: Posts: 2,442
    If Ken isn't touching the ground (and I assume we're not talking about air throws here), how on earth can he be thrown?
    The original game has 3 frames of input delay. HDR has 3-4 (Xbox360) and 7 (PS3).
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    As I have said, some moves will always give the right direction. Just do either neutral jumping Fierce, splash or st.Strong, st.Short into SPD or sweep.
    And BR, gan was saying that sfii isn't suppose to have any input delay. Except for maybe one frame for processing?
    He means that it is the original game, so its delay is considered to be zero in that sense. But the moves do not come out the next frame: it takes 3 more frames for most actions, and 4 more if it is a ground normal.
    To say "nothing weird goes on at all" in regards to Ken's ability to recover from a missed super is actually outrageous.
    It is just three frames. That is short, but Guile's Flash Kick had none in WW, just like shoto's tatsus, Dictator's landing after diagonal Strong and Chun's landing after head-stomp. There are lots and lots of things which are harder to deal with than Ken's Fierce SRK and super, this is just a fact. That's why we found it weird. Ken's own Jab SRK is much more annoying, for instance.
  • thanks_tablethanks_table double buttrape Joined: Posts: 102
    It is just three frames. That is short, but Guile's Flash Kick had none in WW, just like shoto's tatsus, Dictator's landing after diagonal Strong and Chun's landing after head-stomp. There are lots and lots of things which are harder to deal with than Ken's Fierce SRK and super, this is just a fact. That's why we found it weird. Ken's own Jab SRK is much more annoying, for instance.

    I agree. There are definitely harder things in the game to deal with- I actually wouldn't even say Ken's freefall recover is an especially difficult thing to deal with at all. I was only saying that I've seen a lot of people waiting under a whiffing Ken to execute what looks like a much deserved throw, and then get grabbed suddenly, and it just looks retarded and illogical. Obviously with some characters it's never even an issue; shoto's for instance can just throw a dp at him as he's falling and never even think about it, especially since it's more damage to dp than do a regular throw anyway. Whatever.

    Anyway. Everybody! Name the character you hate most, EXCEPT FOR KEN! NO ONE EVER SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT KEN!!!!
  • oldschool_BRoldschool_BR Projectile spammer Joined: Posts: 2,442
    Yeah, lag "helps" there, too.

    I dislike Ken cos he is an inferior version of my character. 8-)
  • Coth_XCoth_X G(x) = (3/(1-3x)) - 3 - 3x - 27x^2 Joined: Posts: 4,340
    Yeah, lag "helps" there, too.

    I dislike Ken cos he is an inferior version of my character. 8-)

    Can I hate people that can't throw punish kens whiffed shoryukens? ;)

    I think right now, I hate chun li and her hitboxes and throw range right now.

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  • geogeo Official Contrarian Joined: Posts: 1,291
    The original game has 3 frames of input delay. HDR has 3-4 (Xbox360) and 7 (PS3).

    But on all platforms the amount of input delay is constant, so your advice to "hit the button earlier" still makes no sense. If Ken is in the air, he can't be thrown. If Ken is on the ground, there is a very small window to punish him.
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  • blitzfublitzfu Cosmic Power Joined: Posts: 3,072
    The best way to punish Ken's Fierce Shoryu and Super with Zangief is a Lariat. Don't wait for Ken to land, and don't do the Lariat too early either. Do it when Ken's feet touch Zangief's head. The Lariat's 1st hitbox is huge enough that Ken is guaranteed to get hit, and you get the knockdown, which allows you to setup a crossup or a tick SPD or whatever. Both Punch and Kick Lariats work fine.

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    But on all platforms the amount of input delay is constant, so your advice to "hit the button earlier" still makes no sense. If Ken is in the air, he can't be thrown. If Ken is on the ground, there is a very small window to punish him.

    I think he's saying that if you're trying to ground throw, hit the button a little early, so that 2-3 frames later (input delay), the throw will activate once Ken has landed.
  • DNGR S PAPERCUTDNGR S PAPERCUT Joined: Posts: 1,608
    ^^^ LOL hitbox!. For HDR I'm switching to gief. Snake Eyez was right, eventually I was going to make the switch.
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  • SlayersliceSlayerslice Joined: Posts: 1,666
    Chun-Li, Bison and Blanka
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  • CWheezyCWheezy Joined: Posts: 889
    It is actually secret programming with ken, there is a special part called the ken fairy, where it saves him from death.

    Also if your character has an air throw do that it works
  • superlollosuperlollo S Tier Joined: Posts: 2,967
    Vega definitely. The character itself sucks and is free to my Akuma, but I hate all the sounds he makes and his look. Also his kara throw is annoying and his ex FBA is like...unblockable online, lol!
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  • mad possummad possum Joined: Posts: 1,091
    ^ Is it me or are all SF4 players retarded? Can I name SF4 as a most hated character?
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  • Coth_XCoth_X G(x) = (3/(1-3x)) - 3 - 3x - 27x^2 Joined: Posts: 4,340
    ^ Is it me or are all SF4 players retarded? Can I name SF4 as a most hated character?

    Yeah they need to somehow identify the forum on the latest posts thing.

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  • mad possummad possum Joined: Posts: 1,091
    It's just the arrogance (or ignorance) of all these "new" FG players that SF4 brought in that seem to think everything is about SF4 and nothing else matters. Like all of this wasn't going on for years and years before SF4 ever showed up. Kinda bothers me.

    That, and everything about that game bothers me, LOL.
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  • oldschool_BRoldschool_BR Projectile spammer Joined: Posts: 2,442
    It's just the arrogance (or ignorance) of all these "new" FG players that SF4 brought in that seem to think everything is about SF4 and nothing else matters.
    I think it is both. Not a bit of both: lots of it.
  • philcitophilcito The Berserker Shoto Joined: Posts: 1,178
    they are ignorants, as MP said, they think everything is about sfiv games and nothing else matters. they don't even bother to read about the thread itself. they just post about combo assist, i mean sfiv games.
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  • Big OBig O Joined: Posts: 377
    ^^^ LOL hitbox!. For HDR I'm switching to gief. Snake Eyez was right, eventually I was going to make the switch.

    What was Snake Eyes right about? Did he say something insightful or do you just mean his character choice? I haven't really seen him post so I'd love to hear what he has to say.
  • DNGR S PAPERCUTDNGR S PAPERCUT Joined: Posts: 1,608
    A while back he asked me why I used hawk. I'm assuming he asked that cuz hawk sucks. I told him I liked to dragon punch, but I also liked to do spd's. He said, "I have a feeling you're going to switch to gief in the future". Probably because he figured hawk would end up a waste of time, and geif is a fucking monster.
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  • Nightwing1990Nightwing1990 WING-NUTT Joined: Posts: 370
    depends whose playing with them for me.....
    I can't stand super's honda i can't do shit
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  • Big OBig O Joined: Posts: 377
    A while back he asked me why I used hawk. I'm assuming he asked that cuz hawk sucks. I told him I liked to dragon punch, but I also liked to do spd's. He said, "I have a feeling you're going to switch to gief in the future". Probably because he figured hawk would end up a waste of time, and geif is a fucking monster.

    Yeah going from Zangief to Hawk made me feel so limited. Mostly not having lariat or a good sweep. Also the awkwardness of his dp is a downer. If he had Ken's dp or Zangief's sweep I'd like him a lot more. Idk how you T. Hawk mains do it. I just llike how T. Hawk does better vs Zangief's worst matchups except for Cammy. Honda is kinda the same :tdown:.
  • FSMFSM Joined: Posts: 17
    T-Hawk and that ridiculous throw of his. Fuck you Hawk.
  • Master zEAloUSMaster zEAloUS The guy who's not good but wins a lot. Joined: Posts: 86
    I loathe Akuma for the sole reason that he's the MOST BROKEN character in the game with his obscene amount of damage output, air fireball, and unblockable Super Combo. In digression, I hate Chun for her having pretty much a counter attack for everything Cammy does and E. Honda for his incredibly simplistic play style and horseshit advantage over Cammy.
    Winning with turbo/Akuma/a lag switch is like winning in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still a drooling, smelly retard.
  • SoullessSoulless Joined: Posts: 72
    all the charge characters. Oh, and super aggressive Ryu's.
  • x64x64 Fuck your SRK Joined: Posts: 3,142
    all the charge characters. Oh, and super aggressive Ryu's.

    The charge characters hate you too.
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  • JigglyNorrisJigglyNorris The Low Tier Hero Joined: Posts: 1,279
    So is SnakeEyez saying that Gief outclasses Hawk? I respect the dudes Gief and all, but that's a dumb thing to say.
  • CWheezyCWheezy Joined: Posts: 889
    in the hdr metagame it seems pretty fair to say
  • DNGR S PAPERCUTDNGR S PAPERCUT Joined: Posts: 1,608
    So is SnakeEyez saying that Gief outclasses Hawk? I respect the dudes Gief and all, but that's a dumb thing to say.

    My assumptions. He never said that gief outclassed hawk in those words. All he said was that he thought that if I kept playing, I wold eventually end up using gief.
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    Can't stand Akuma, 'Sim, 'Rog, or Deejay.
  • LadyStreetFighterLadyStreetFighter ★Ol' Thunder Thighs Joined: Posts: 118
    Ok, Vega, and Bison.

    Seriously. It's a cheap way of pissing people off.
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  • Austin_QEDAustin_QED "It's Whoop-Ass Time!" Joined: Posts: 1,739
    A good Makoto/Guy/Gouken crushes my spirit..

    Most hated would be Cody.

    Who the hell at Capcom thought it would be cool for his rock to reflect invulnerable?

    And DAT DAMAGE, dear god, dat damage.
  • LadyStreetFighterLadyStreetFighter ★Ol' Thunder Thighs Joined: Posts: 118
    A good Makoto/Guy/Gouken crushes my spirit..

    Most hated would be Cody.

    Who the hell at Capcom thought it would be cool for his rock to reflect invulnerable?

    And DAT DAMAGE, dear god, dat damage.

    I hate that too, most people I've played using Cody are those who jump all the time and go into the heavy punch into Criminal Upper crap. :bluu:
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  • SpökplumpenSpökplumpen Joined: Posts: 10
    Vega, Blanka and Bison. They're all pure bullshit characters that seem to exist for the sole purpose of trolling and pissing people off. So fucking frustrating playing ranked against these. Before someone blows up and gets angry I should add that I'm pretty awful at the game.

    Edit: Wow, I suck. Didn't notice this was a HDR thread. Really sorry guys.
  • ExposedDExposedD Persona 5 Joined: Posts: 6,263
    Vega, Blanka and Bison. They're all pure bullshit characters that seem to exist for the sole purpose of trolling and pissing people off. So fucking frustrating playing ranked against these. Before someone blows up and gets angry I should add that I'm pretty awful at the game.

    Edit: Wow, I suck. Didn't notice this was a HDR thread. Really sorry guys.

    awe! I thought i had a fellow swede playing HDR.
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  • MisdreavusMisdreavus Joined: Posts: 180
    Vega, Blanka and Bison. They're all pure bullshit characters that seem to exist for the sole purpose of trolling and pissing people off. So fucking frustrating playing ranked against these. Before someone blows up and gets angry I should add that I'm pretty awful at the game.

    Edit: Wow, I suck. Didn't notice this was a HDR thread. Really sorry guys.

    So then you hate Vega in SSF4 then? If so... really? Vega's pretty bad in SSF4.

    HDR Vega is a little annoying to deal with, though. I would know ;)
  • LadyStreetFighterLadyStreetFighter ★Ol' Thunder Thighs Joined: Posts: 118
    So then you hate Vega in SSF4 then? If so... really? Vega's pretty bad in SSF4.

    HDR Vega is a little annoying to deal with, though. I would know ;)

    Vega in HDremix is worse than he is in SF4, but he can still be a cheap so-and-so in the right hands, that's why I hate him.

    In SSF4 when Vega is concerned they are either good or bad. But I actually let out a huge ''Oh fucking hell'' when I see one.
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  • goat4444goat4444 boosh! Joined: Posts: 21
    umm, ya, definitely honda. I wouldn't even consider playing him. that style is so boring!
  • mad possummad possum Joined: Posts: 1,091
    umm, ya, definitely honda. I wouldn't even consider playing him. that style is so boring!

    You don't have to play Honda in a "boring" style, in most match-ups he can be played pretty effectively in a more rush down style.
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  • DecoyDecoy You better block. Joined: Posts: 497
    You don't have to play Honda in a "boring" style, in most match-ups he can be played pretty effectively in a more rush down style.
    Yeah, try that! I prefer rushdown Hondas. ;-)
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  • JigglyNorrisJigglyNorris The Low Tier Hero Joined: Posts: 1,279
    Yeah I'm with Decoy. Bring on the Rush Down Honda's all f'ing day.
  • x64x64 Fuck your SRK Joined: Posts: 3,142
    We're on to your neutral jump shenanigans!

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  • mad possummad possum Joined: Posts: 1,091
    We're on to your neutral jump shenanigans!

    \settles in corner @ downback

    I can usually time an HP Headbutt to hit neutral jumping shorts from anywhere from 1/2 screen in.

    I play pretty aggressive against Blanka, maybe not "rush-down" but definitely do more than hold down+back. As long as you watch your ranges you can pressure Blanka. Decoy, it's been ages man, we need to play again. I'll promise to try to rush you down some, LOL.

    T.Hawk, on the other hand, there's not much to do but turtle. T.Hawk and run away Vegas are my least favorite match-ups (other than mirrors), they are so boring and make me turtle up way more than I want to (online I usually just say heck with it and take chances, LOL).
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  • x64x64 Fuck your SRK Joined: Posts: 3,142
    It seems that Hawk has just enough time to fall down from a neutral HP to SRK if Honda tries to headbutt. I don't see it often, but it has happened to me enough to think that. Kind of the same way that you really can't chase a shoto jumping backwards with HK (and then a SRK if that didn't hit).
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  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    The way Fei can now do easy Chickenwing, which you have to block high, and if it hits, he gets flame kick add on, is a huge departure from how ST used to play out. Factor in laggy Asian guys joining the room, and this tactic just becomes unbreakably dominating. Chun Li has no answer for this online, not even throw.
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