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  • ckrazyckrazy Self Banned Joined: Posts: 10,607

    So, hand posting time. The question is about the second hand, I'm wondering if my all in call was the proper play or not.

    At worst going into the hand you had a 71.81% chance of winning. Obviously could have been even better if someone folded an A or two.

    I don't see how that is the wrong play. I just call it bad luck.
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  • GwynLovesMilkGwynLovesMilk Joined: Posts: 6,091
    At worst going into the hand you had a 71.81% chance of winning. Obviously could have been even better if someone folded an A or two.

    I don't see how that is the wrong play. I just call it bad luck.

    Just wanted to make sure I didn't make some obviously stupid play that I didn't notice or something, every time big pockets like that lose I question it..thanks. Any thoughts on the first hand?
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    Bump/New Thread Anyone?
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  • JackTenrac!JackTenrac! Dollar Yen - Level 304 Joined: Posts: 2,808
    - I play at work. Might transfer it to a real place and get my friends to play, at my house, on weekends. I just started about 3 months ago. Thanks to that, I've downloaded Heads Up Hold'em and I've been whoring out Clubhouse Games' version. My beef with the latter is that there's no punishment for owing money, so the CPU will do dumb stuff for 5 rounds.

    Is there an easier way to remember hands?
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  • GwynLovesMilkGwynLovesMilk Joined: Posts: 6,091
    - I play at work. Might transfer it to a real place and get my friends to play, at my house, on weekends. I just started about 3 months ago. Thanks to that, I've downloaded Heads Up Hold'em and I've been whoring out Clubhouse Games' version. My beef with the latter is that there's no punishment for owing money, so the CPU will do dumb stuff for 5 rounds.

    Is there an easier way to remember hands?

    Most people play on real money tables and they save the hand histories automatically so they can just copy and paste them.

    Also, started grinding out a little .01/.02 today. I like graphs that look like mine. :lovin: Lets hope it holds!

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  • TheWandererTheWanderer Joined: Posts: 544
    I just got back from a casino and lost about decent amount for being a first-timer lol. I only played blackjack and roulette. I try looking for a blackjack discussion but couldn't find it so I thought this is a good place to ask where I can get good at blackjack. Any tips?
  • umthrfkrumthrfkr /Bane Voice Joined: Posts: 7,269
    watch the movie 21 starring kevin spacey
    fuck you all
  • Warrior's DreamsWarrior's Dreams 梅原 > Wong Joined: Posts: 1,292
    Questions:

    1) Regarding websites, which is better, pokerstars or fulltilt? Do you guys ever get pop up ads from these sites?
    2) What kinds of software have some people been known to use online? I think the term might be "hub." If this doesn't make sense, then I am thinking of something that keeps track and gives live updates about things like VPIP, %folds, % raises, etc..., or otherwise things that would be banned from casinos.
    3) What books could you recommend for internet poker?
    4) What are the dangers of online poker? By this I mean things like scams, people hacking into your computer, etc. and not things like addiction and losing a lot of money.
    5) How does internet poker differ from live poker (outside of not worrying about giving off physical tells)
    6) What kinds of strategies can you do online that you can't do in a live poker game, if any?
    7) Is there an online poker FAQ I can read?
    8) What do you regret doing when you first started out? (outside of losing lots of money/property)
    9) Is online gambling illegal in some states? Where can I go to find out?
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  • ssjtinssjtin Joined: Posts: 198
    Questions:

    1) Regarding websites, which is better, pokerstars or fulltilt? Do you guys ever get pop up ads from these sites?

    no pop ups, its just software. I prefer fulltilt because I get rakeback and I like the client better aesthetically. Poker stars has the most players and the rake at micro stakes (10c/25c and lower) is significantly better than full tilt.
    2) What kinds of software have some people been known to use online? I think the term might be "hub." If this doesn't make sense, then I am thinking of something that keeps track and gives live updates about things like VPIP, %folds, % raises, etc..., or otherwise things that would be banned from casinos.

    It's a heads up display (HUD). The most common is poker tracker 3 which you can get a 60 day free trial download, and Holdem Manager which I've never tried.
    3) What books could you recommend for internet poker?

    Don't know, haven't read any specifically for online. For microstakes the basics like Harrington on holdem should be pretty sufficient.4) What are the dangers of online poker? By this I mean things like scams, people hacking into your computer, etc. and not things like addiction and losing a lot of money.

    Staking deals can lead to scamming, i.e. stakee disappearing with stakers money. Don't know about hacking, i assume if you're playing high stakes you'd protect yourself. Anything else there's not much point apart from standard antivirus and things like that.
    5) How does internet poker differ from live poker (outside of not worrying about giving off physical tells)

    Hugely different. Live poker is 90% fish, online poker is much much tougher. I would equate a $2/$4 live game to 5c/10c or 10/25c online. More hands / hour means most people play tighter so where you can limp 10 8 s in a live game, it's a no-no online. You have to rely on previous history, vpip/pfr and work on hand ranges and bet sizing online, which I guess still applies to live.
    6) What kinds of strategies can you do online that you can't do in a live poker game, if any?
    Um, you can play super tight and just set mine and play QQ+ multitabling. Live, this means you get whittled down in blinds a lot of the time and get bored out of your mind. Online, you can play 10-16 tables and make profit with rakeback.7) Is there an online poker FAQ I can read?
    There is a great forum for poker players. Poker Strategy - Two Plus Two Poker & Gaming Strategy 8) What do you regret doing when you first started out? (outside of losing lots of money/property)

    I regret thinking I was actually any good until I lost a few K and found out the hard way that I sucked.
    9) Is online gambling illegal in some states? Where can I go to find out?

    No idea, google it.

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  • SaitsuofleavesSaitsuofleaves SHE'S AANNGGRRYY!!!! Joined: Posts: 5,346
    I have my first poker tourney today...uh...help!
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  • Warrior's DreamsWarrior's Dreams 梅原 > Wong Joined: Posts: 1,292
    I have my first poker tourney today...uh...help!

    So how'd you do?
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  • Mr. BastosMr. Bastos Joined: Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG

    Beat me to it. This is pretty damn crazy. I'm kinda glad I never signed up for these, I've been thinking about it a lot recently because out here in Hawaii I don't know anyone to play poker with. Oh well I guess I will wait until I move back to California to revive my weekly poker game.

    Was anyone here affected by this?
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  • OnikageOnikage Chaot Extraordinaire Joined: Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    My roll is currently stuck on FTP. Software won't connect to their servers now, so at least for the moment I can't play or cashout.
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  • GwynLovesMilkGwynLovesMilk Joined: Posts: 6,091
    I came in to post the news.
    Was anyone here affected by this?
    I owe FTP some money that I highly doubt I'm going to have to pay, so that's pretty baller, but otherwise it really sucks, because I would have paid it once my self-banned account was usable again, I really enjoyed the interface, I just didn't have the money to play at the time. >_>
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  • SaitsuofleavesSaitsuofleaves SHE'S AANNGGRRYY!!!! Joined: Posts: 5,346
    So how'd you do?

    Got dropped relatively early when I got hit by a straight on the river...

    Went into a cash game, and I ended up coming out $50 heavier than when I went into the entire day.
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  • gridmangridman Drill Joined: Posts: 3,221
    yeah i dunno what the hell the deal is. i have like $8 on PS still sitting there with a $20 pending cash out (e-checks take forever) so i dont know wtf the deal will be. really kind of discouraging as i love cards. hopefully its resolved fast
  • Mr PHMr PH Bisu Build Joined: Posts: 265
    What sites should US players go to play now? Or should we just lay low for the time being.
  • gridmangridman Drill Joined: Posts: 3,221
    ^^ seriously. is there anywhere safe to play right now?
  • ssjtinssjtin Joined: Posts: 198
    I wouldn't risk any money in online poker until this matter is resolved. As of right now, if you're in the US then you cannot play online poker...sucks I know. Easiest thing to do is move to Australia.

    And if you have money tied up right now, it's not going anywhere for a while.
  • ShawnLoganownzuShawnLoganownzu slogan8r Joined: Posts: 3,575
    What sites should US players go to play now? Or should we just lay low for the time being.

    Its just the big sites that are shut down. Bodog is still running and I believe cake is too.
    I wouldn't risk any money in online poker until this matter is resolved. As of right now, if you're in the US then you cannot play online poker...sucks I know. Easiest thing to do is move to Australia.

    And if you have money tied up right now, it's not going anywhere for a while.

    you could move to Canada, its closer for us ;D
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  • ssjtinssjtin Joined: Posts: 198
    Also the sites have not been shut down. Stars and Tilt are still running for non-us players.
  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,255
    which type of poker do i need to learn how to play? didnt know there were so many different types.
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    which type of poker do i need to learn how to play? didnt know there were so many different types.

    NL is the most lucrative since it has the biggest community...
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  • Darklightjg1Darklightjg1 Dr. SuessLight Joined: Posts: 3,630
    Damn @ the sites being down for us U.S. players. I was just talking to my friend about getting started on online poker the other day and he told me I had real bad timing, then he broke the news to me. This probably sucks royally for the players whose money is sitting in limbo right now.

    'Wondering what's the point of them shutting it down online? Too many underage kids gambling or something?
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  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,255
    NL is the most lucrative since it has the biggest community...


    ok, thanks
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    lol, looks like somones after y'all ---

    luckily this doesnt apply to me,

    edit: seems like i was late on the discussion, my bad.
  • GwynLovesMilkGwynLovesMilk Joined: Posts: 6,091
    NL (No Limit) is just a betting type of the game of choice. You want to learn Texas Hold'Em and probably Omaha Hi.
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  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,255
    NL (No lImit) is just a betting type of the game of choice. You want to learn Texas Hold'Em and probably Omaha Hi.

    I was on youtube last night looking for lessons but they all took too long to get to the card stage, one guy spent 20 minutes talking about types of chips and shuffling cards.
  • GwynLovesMilkGwynLovesMilk Joined: Posts: 6,091
    I was on youtube last night looking for lessons but they all took too long to get to the card stage, one guy spent 20 minutes talking about types of chips and shuffling cards.

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  • VeseriusVeserius Hold Down Back Joined: Posts: 11,473
    Learning Omaha hi playing heads up potlimit with a friend who is a good player. It's a way more dynamic game than Hold'Em. Really fun, if online poker wasn't such a bust right now I'd be playing it at low stakes right now probably.
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  • GwynLovesMilkGwynLovesMilk Joined: Posts: 6,091
    Learning Omaha hi playing heads up potlimit with a friend who is a good player. It's a way more dynamic game than Hold'Em. Really fun, if online poker wasn't such a bust right now I'd be playing it at low stakes right now probably.

    I believe Omaha has more skill to it, but Hold'Em also has more fish because of how popular it is. Hold'Em is where the money's at, for sure.
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  • VeseriusVeserius Hold Down Back Joined: Posts: 11,473
    Yeah for sure, Omaha is way harder to play and has less players and thus less bad players.

    I don't play poker to make money, though it doesn't hurt when I do. I just play it because I like to play games.
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    I remember playing Omaha one night with my friends and we all loved it. I'm also a big fan of 7 card stud (it was the first type of poker my dad ever taught me) but you don't see it at casino's anymore because Hold'em is so popular. Sucks for my dad he basically had to adapt to playing Hold'em all because of the WSOP.
    Yeah for sure, Omaha is way harder to play and has less players and thus less bad players.

    I don't play poker to make money, though it doesn't hurt when I do. I just play it because I like to play games.

    Same here. I love poker, but I don't play to make money. I just enjoy the competition.
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  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,255
    deucescracked.com

    Get the free trial and download any series' that look interesting to you, cancel the trial before it's up and you're good to go it's mainly focused on the math of it, which is great, all the lessons are really professional, aside from the Homegame series, which is just a bunch of friends on Vent playing a cash game together goofing off, good watch though :)

    do i need to give them my credit card details for the free trial?
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    Been reading this thread all day at work, hella lols: MSPAINT - Online Poker Players: Before & After - Poker News - News, Views and Gossip
    do i need to give them my credit card details for the free trial?

    Yeah, but you can cancel it right away and you'll still keep the 1-week trial.
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    Can't believe people still act like this today. This reminds me of the SF2 days



    Can we merge the 2 threads?
  • D'Nyc3D'Nyc3 *Insert Star* Joined: Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Jion_Wansu wrote: »


    Can't believe people still act like this today. This reminds me of the SF2 days



    Can we merge the 2 threads?

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    Final table live now:

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    Let's go Josh!!!

    Daniel Negroneu was hella close on making the final table.


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    I knew this guy would win. PA in the house! This guy's the new poker grandmaster, can't anybody touch him.

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    Looks like the World Poker Championship (AKA WSOP Main Event 2016) will start 1 week before EVO and will likely still be going on when EVO starts this year. Also, the Brock fight starts at the same time this starts (July 9th)
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    Can the 2013 world poker champion, Ryan Riess, win the 2016 championship?
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  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 5,650
    Viscant wrote: »
    2+2 is exactly like SRK, only a couple years ago.
    Basically that forum is at that stage in it's development where the noise-to-information ratio is just about to hit the breaking point. There are a lot of really good posts there and the important posters (Malmuth/Sklansky, etc) still post from time to time. But the new wave of morons and idiots are starting to take over a bit. Also that forum is remarkably rude. If you don't fit with their particular ideology on something, they just go out of their way to be asses.
    So yeah, it's basically exactly like SRK. I read the posts there, but it's primarily useful for identifying people. When I know that I have a "brown trout" at my table, I basically try to run them over. Most 2+2ers are weak-tight at the tables, especially if you mention that you're a trout also. They try not to make any mistakes which translates most often into weak-tight play. Probably my favorite hunting trick these days.

    And yeah, I agree with LB. The best part of that hand is that A9 and KQ called. LOL

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