The Good But Mostly Bad Police Thread

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  • odinodin the final solution Joined: Posts: 14,992 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Love how the old white dude is prepping the gat.
    Then he's like "Ok I think they got this... For now."
  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 19,433
    Wil wrote: »


    Officer with the textbook tackle outta nowhere!

    Gooooooldberg!

    What dumbass would do this? This guy going to be a bottom bitch in county
  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 5,446
    Why is he wearing a jacket that says "Security" though?
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  • Jion_WansuJion_Wansu Joined: Posts: 5,394
    Fuck the cops. And by that, I mean the bad cops:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/cops-tell-uber-driver-stop-164303407.html
  • crucadescrucades Its a Kinda Bullshit Joined: Posts: 10,846
    Kid gonna get paid lol.
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  • odinodin the final solution Joined: Posts: 14,992 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    That is fucked up.

    But hey, at least they got terminated.
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  • Spirit JuiceSpirit Juice 「HATES EVERYTHING」 Joined: Posts: 14,686 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Stop posting.
  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Working on it.......... Joined: Posts: 20,484 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/betty-shelby-not-guilty-first-degree-manslaughter/

    Remember that the Tulsa officers originally lied about the event..........until it came out on video.
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  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 5,446
    Saw that one trending on my FB. She correctly deduced he was on PCP and he was heading back to his car after being told not to move or something?
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  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,453
    edited May 19
    NPR sponsored station kpcc 89.3 has been talking about how police officers in san bernandino shoot people twice as often as they do in LA, especially when they are suspected that they are on drugs. Apperantly there's a major attempt at reforming how police conduct their business.

    what they failed to disclose was that in the early 2000's, there was a massive migration of low tier inner city hispanic immigration wave to Riverside and San Bernandino counties that was taking advantage of houses selling for as little as 100k. This migration really compounded their gang and drug problem even more. I've gone to San Bernandino/Redlands area and some parts look as bad as certain parts of compton, and my dad's friend advised me that I shouldn't walk to the liquor store that was only about 150 yards away.

    Police are certainly wilding out as a whole, but these people shouldn't act suprised when police start getting more aggressive around certain areas. demographics can and will ruin entire neighborhoods.
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  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Working on it.......... Joined: Posts: 20,484 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    http://www.startribune.com/fired-officer-who-refused-to-shoot-suspect-sues-city/422100443/
    CHARLESTON, W.Va. — A West Virginia police officer who was fired after he refused to shoot a black man who had a gun last year says he was just trying to uphold his oath to protect and serve the community.

    Stephen Mader sued the city of Weirton this week, saying he did nothing wrong in May 2016 when he tried to persuade 23-year-old R.J. Williams of McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania, to put down his weapon. Another officer later saw Williams with his gun raised and shot him to death.

    The gun that Williams was holding was later determined to be unloaded.

    Officials in Weirton, an Ohio River community of 19,000 residents 36 miles west of Pittsburgh, officials declined immediate comment on the lawsuit, saying they had not received a copy of it.

    City officials had previously said Mader, a probationary officer, was let go eight weeks after the shooting for conduct unbecoming of an officer in three separate incidents, not just for refusing to shoot Williams.

    But the lawsuit, which seeks unspecified damages, contends Mader was fired specifically for the Williams incident.

    "To tell a police officer — when in doubt — either shoot to kill, or get fired, is a choice that no police officer should ever have to make and is a message that is wrong and should never be sent," Mader's lead attorney, Tim O'Brien of Pittsburgh, said in a statement.

    In the statement, Mader said he believes he was fired for trying to uphold his oath to protect and serve.

    "Even still, I would have done the same thing," he said.

    The lawsuit cites the state constitution, which prohibits a police officer from using deadly force unless the officer has reason to believe the target of such force poses an immediate threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or others.

    According to the lawsuit, Mader responded to a call from Williams' girlfriend that he was threatening to hurt himself with a knife. Mader said his Marine Corps and police officer training taught him to assess a threat level. He said Williams was visibly upset but not aggressive or violent.

    Mader believed Williams did not pose a risk of death or serious bodily injury to himself or others. After Mader ordered Williams to drop his unloaded gun, Williams responded, "I can't do that. Just shoot me," according to the lawsuit. Mader said he determined Williams wanted to die by "suicide by cop."

    Two other officers arrived at the scene, and when Williams raised his gun, one of the officers fatally shot Williams in the head. The lawsuit identified the officer who shot Williams as Patrolman Ryan Kuzma. The lawsuit didn't disclose Kuzma's race.

    Investigations found the officer did nothing wrong.

    The Associated Press previously obtained Mader's personnel file through a Freedom of Information Act request. The file included an investigative report by a Weirton police captain who wrote that Williams presented "a clear and present danger" to others, and Mader's "failure to react left himself and those around him in grave danger." The report recommended Mader's firing over several incidents.

    In March 2016, Mader was issued a verbal warning for opening a car door to place a parking ticket inside without having a search warrant, leading to the arrest of the car's owner for disorderly conduct, and cursing at the man's wife. The charge against the man was dropped.

    A month later, Mader responded to a call about a cardiac arrest and found a woman dead on a stairway. Mader determined the victim died of natural causes and that no further investigation was warranted. He didn't fill out a police report, collected no evidence and the body was sent to a funeral home. Alexander called the handling of the suspicious death "unacceptable," and an autopsy determined the victim sustained blunt force trauma to the neck and upper torso.

    A letter from Alexander recommended 30-day suspensions without pay for Mader and a lieutenant, who was cited for failing to respond to the scene and properly supervise his subordinates. Mader later said his suspension was never carried out.

    Serve and protect............
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  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,453
    http://www.startribune.com/fired-officer-who-refused-to-shoot-suspect-sues-city/422100443/
    CHARLESTON, W.Va. — A West Virginia police officer who was fired after he refused to shoot a black man who had a gun last year says he was just trying to uphold his oath to protect and serve the community.

    Stephen Mader sued the city of Weirton this week, saying he did nothing wrong in May 2016 when he tried to persuade 23-year-old R.J. Williams of McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania, to put down his weapon. Another officer later saw Williams with his gun raised and shot him to death.

    The gun that Williams was holding was later determined to be unloaded.

    Officials in Weirton, an Ohio River community of 19,000 residents 36 miles west of Pittsburgh, officials declined immediate comment on the lawsuit, saying they had not received a copy of it.

    City officials had previously said Mader, a probationary officer, was let go eight weeks after the shooting for conduct unbecoming of an officer in three separate incidents, not just for refusing to shoot Williams.

    But the lawsuit, which seeks unspecified damages, contends Mader was fired specifically for the Williams incident.

    "To tell a police officer — when in doubt — either shoot to kill, or get fired, is a choice that no police officer should ever have to make and is a message that is wrong and should never be sent," Mader's lead attorney, Tim O'Brien of Pittsburgh, said in a statement.

    In the statement, Mader said he believes he was fired for trying to uphold his oath to protect and serve.

    "Even still, I would have done the same thing," he said.

    The lawsuit cites the state constitution, which prohibits a police officer from using deadly force unless the officer has reason to believe the target of such force poses an immediate threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or others.

    According to the lawsuit, Mader responded to a call from Williams' girlfriend that he was threatening to hurt himself with a knife. Mader said his Marine Corps and police officer training taught him to assess a threat level. He said Williams was visibly upset but not aggressive or violent.

    Mader believed Williams did not pose a risk of death or serious bodily injury to himself or others. After Mader ordered Williams to drop his unloaded gun, Williams responded, "I can't do that. Just shoot me," according to the lawsuit. Mader said he determined Williams wanted to die by "suicide by cop."

    Two other officers arrived at the scene, and when Williams raised his gun, one of the officers fatally shot Williams in the head. The lawsuit identified the officer who shot Williams as Patrolman Ryan Kuzma. The lawsuit didn't disclose Kuzma's race.

    Investigations found the officer did nothing wrong.

    The Associated Press previously obtained Mader's personnel file through a Freedom of Information Act request. The file included an investigative report by a Weirton police captain who wrote that Williams presented "a clear and present danger" to others, and Mader's "failure to react left himself and those around him in grave danger." The report recommended Mader's firing over several incidents.

    In March 2016, Mader was issued a verbal warning for opening a car door to place a parking ticket inside without having a search warrant, leading to the arrest of the car's owner for disorderly conduct, and cursing at the man's wife. The charge against the man was dropped.

    A month later, Mader responded to a call about a cardiac arrest and found a woman dead on a stairway. Mader determined the victim died of natural causes and that no further investigation was warranted. He didn't fill out a police report, collected no evidence and the body was sent to a funeral home. Alexander called the handling of the suspicious death "unacceptable," and an autopsy determined the victim sustained blunt force trauma to the neck and upper torso.

    A letter from Alexander recommended 30-day suspensions without pay for Mader and a lieutenant, who was cited for failing to respond to the scene and properly supervise his subordinates. Mader later said his suspension was never carried out.

    Serve and protect............

    wasn't this an old case? I'm suprised it wasn't already settled and its bearly going to court
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  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 5,446
    I would have been on Mader's side, until I saw the last four paragraphs. Looks like he had a track record of not following protocol and making unqualified judgements.

    I get his reasoning for why he thought there was no threat, but the only way you'd truly know if there's no threat is if you magically knew the gun was unloaded.
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  • pedoviejopedoviejo Thuggin in da Kitchen Joined: Posts: 13,453
    Iirc, he was by himself amd back up came and ahot the dude on the spot. He only out himself in danger
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  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 5,446
    I know. Its an impossible choice to make.

    But, you also have to consider the perspective of the backup officers. They dont know the gun is unloaded, all they see is a dude trying to threaten them.

    You kinda stop being non-aggressive when you point guns at people.
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  • WastedWasted Verbal Diarrhetic Joined: Posts: 5,446
    Somehow this channel popped up on my YT:

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