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  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 26,006 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    RockBogart wrote: »
    Kinglanding.

    Is this a new city they haven't introduced yet? :coffee:
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  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 26,006 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Get that stealth edit outta here. :lol:
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  • crucadescrucades Its a Kinda Bullshit Joined: Posts: 11,577
    K guy redheads don't count, Tormund saves em all @Vynce but the chicks on this show are all about some kinda bullshit.

    I wanna read the books because I love the amount of character back story. I often play that deadly game of reading up on character wikis without trying to spoil shit for myself. I guess I got the LotR deal. I'll do the books after the show to cover the bases.

    Some of the dumb shit from last episode was Wun Wun going in with no weapon. I dunno how strong giants are in GoTverse but not even a log or heavy pike?

    Wildings getting heavy shaft, small numbers climbed the wall, raided the north. Outta 2000 of em none of these tenchu dudes couldn't assassinate Bolton at the parlay? Anticlimax I know but we talking show term OGs of guerilla warfare. Snow monkey killers with every advantage didn't even think to make an attempt. The Wallace is displeased.

    Ricky is a given, but if the nigga started bobbin n waving then Bolton would just made it rain arrows so a moot point.

    Wun Wun death. Jon ran to Winterhelm on foot instead of spending 5 minutes with the Vale knights. They could have gave Wun Wun some prep time but no a bitch ass needless death.

    Onion Knight heavy fuck up. Bolton committed his rearguard to the fight, Onion took the few men he had into the melee cause #whitelivesdontmatter. Blew me up, he could have adapted a flank position with the 50 or so archers he had to range in on Bolton or take down the shield auxiliaries. Needless bullshit for dramatic effect.
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  • ReticentlyReticently Joined: Posts: 4,103
    I can't shit on the Onion Knight too much. Dude could have made better choices but then the episode would have run on too long. Basically feels like he was forced in to making the choices he did to satisfy the TV format.
  • crucadescrucades Its a Kinda Bullshit Joined: Posts: 11,577
    I totally get my complaints (and there are more) are for the benefit of TV and runtime, but it really is some ignorant shit that battle. Ive seen better tactical adoption done in the fucking LA riots. Am trying not to hate cause I know the score, but in hindsight when I rewatched the episode I was like "really these guys are calling the shots?"

    Stannis watching from Hell pissing himself laughing. It has to be said, htf did he lose if Snow could win in those conditions lol. Shit was dumb to the extent Stannis could of won with 5 guys with the same level of plot armour.
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  • Exodus.Exodus. Joined: Posts: 7,016
    crucades wrote: »
    It has to be said, htf did he lose if Snow could win in those conditions lol.

    Conditions were not the same. Legit blizzard when he was marching on Winterfell.
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  • crucadescrucades Its a Kinda Bullshit Joined: Posts: 11,577
    RockBogart wrote: »
    Wun Wun has never used a weapon. He is also able to tear guys in half with his bare hands. It would take weeks of around the clock work to put together a proper weapon for him. And he just acted a living siege engine when it would normally take several men holding a battering ram and a lot of time to knock down that door. Jon couldnt risk giving Ramsay time to fortify his position. Rushing Ramsay down was actually the best strategy. Assassinating Bolton would have likely resulted in them getting attacked while they slept and if you did succeed, it fucks up credibility you might need later. Reputations stick if you havent noticed.

    Credibility is pissed away the second a dude punches through the front door of one of the greatest keeps in Westeros bro. How long does it take a bunch of guys to cut down a tree? If he was a siege weapon why was he in the front lines?

    Rushdown tactic was the best option but given the state of defenses at Winterfell, how much time you need? They had no trebuchet the Vale knights could of built one in a week and smoked joints. If they could rushed down during the night the ploy falls into the best win scenario for Jon so enhances my point.
    Exodus. wrote: »
    crucades wrote: »
    It has to be said, htf did he lose if Snow could win in those conditions lol.

    Conditions were not the same. Legit blizzard when he was marching on Winterfell.

    Yea thats why I said with the same level of plot armour. Again I state, am not trying to hate, but it was just bullshit when you look back on it. Nightking is raising hoards with a swipe of his hand and bending space time around his dick and this is his opposition? I make peace with the battle knowing Jon isnt a proven battlefield commander yet and is still learning everything and Bolton is just a sadistic bastard pretty much in the same boat exp wise. Going back to my pint now.
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  • AzureAzure E-Sports is fucking retarded. Joined: Posts: 9,325 ✭✭✭ Former OG
    RockBogart wrote: »
    Wun Wun has never used a weapon. He is also able to tear guys in half with his bare hands. It would take weeks of around the clock work to put together a proper weapon for him.

    Weeks???

    Try decades.

    But huge fuckin' trees abound in the North.

    So yeah.
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  • AzureAzure E-Sports is fucking retarded. Joined: Posts: 9,325 ✭✭✭ Former OG
    RockBogart wrote: »
    Azure wrote: »
    RockBogart wrote: »
    Wun Wun has never used a weapon. He is also able to tear guys in half with his bare hands. It would take weeks of around the clock work to put together a proper weapon for him.

    Weeks???

    Try decades.

    But huge fuckin' trees abound in the North.

    So yeah.

    Using some random tree would have been less efficieny for someone like that. It's like Superman wearing armor. It doesnt make sense and in this case would slow him down.

    Because a size proportionate baseball bat or bo staff is clearly a disadvantage in combat.
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  • AzureAzure E-Sports is fucking retarded. Joined: Posts: 9,325 ✭✭✭ Former OG
    edited June 2016
    Wun Wun could have been playing cricket with that shield wall, dropping them like dominoes.

    But that would require a better script.
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  • crucadescrucades Its a Kinda Bullshit Joined: Posts: 11,577
    Rock mad as fuck cause he skipped history class or some shit, I get fanbois defending this but damn.
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  • crucadescrucades Its a Kinda Bullshit Joined: Posts: 11,577
    Ok Rock... if you say so...

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  • crucadescrucades Its a Kinda Bullshit Joined: Posts: 11,577
    edited June 2016
    Wait so stating what you didnt like about an episode while accepting why it was done and disagreeing with your stupid shit is bitching now? Good day to you sir.
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  • affinityaffinity Joined: Posts: 2,846
    it's very rare for film these days to have battles of this level of quality, intensity, detail and atmosphere. and Sansa's smile after walking away with total victory secured in Winterfell, is SO EPIC. As leader of Winterfell, she could be smart to stay on Jon's good side because whatever forces they unite with would make Winterfell stronger instead of isolating her house and making new enemies. The timing of the reinforcements was perfect. Sansa really helped turn the tide.

    I dunno why Dany doesn't simply kill Tyrion, he's a shifty bastard that just wants to be on the winning side. just burn all enemies,kill their leaders, pressure those that surrender to fight on the front lines for her side, destroy King's Landing, destroy the Faith of the Seven people, exterminate the Tyrells and Lannisters. build a new domain. Daenerys could have it all, and she has the dragons to counter the whitewalkers. and if there aren't enough dragons, then breed more dragons StarCraft style.
  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 26,006 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Make no mistake, this episode was pretty terrible story-wise. The cinematics were cool and the offing of Ramsey, but the whole episode was one of the worst for GoT's story because it was just all so blindly predictable.
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  • Rioting SoulRioting Soul Joined: Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Raz0r wrote: »
    That arrow scene really got me heated. The fucking kid really gonna just run in a straight line? Where are the jukes? This is how you can tell all English people would suck shit as receivers. Stick to the defensive line or QBing.

    But those Hail Marys though. You know they'll always complete those passes.
  • white shadowwhite shadow WHAT'S MY NAME NYUKAH?!!! Joined: Posts: 13,728 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I'm surprised more enemies weren't astonished to see a giant among Jon's ranks. AFAIK, giants were considered mythic creatures in Westeros, but save for the soldiers that were directly in Wun Wun's line of sight, Bolton's men were quite brave.
    crucades wrote: »
    Be real, Jon ain't listening to no more redheads. Nigga ain't that naive, first one left him hogtied butt naked up north in klan territory, second one dragged him outta paradise and became insta groupie and now this bitch just reminding him of the 'mother' that hated him.

    If GoT tells us anything that is true, it's gingers are fuckin nuts. Be free Jon.

    I'm inclined to believe you since you come from the region with the largest population of redheads in the world.

    Which just reminded me, the Onion Knight might cut a ginger bitch next ep. Sorcery be damned.
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  • crucadescrucades Its a Kinda Bullshit Joined: Posts: 11,577
    Fuck thats right, totally forgot he found the toy.
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  • ReticentlyReticently Joined: Posts: 4,103
    I don't know man. He might cut her. Might threaten to and get weirded out of it by her new completely unsure of herself and feeling guilty about it shtick. Might get confused about the moral ambiguity of it all given he was more than happy to use her abilities to bring Jon back.

    It's a hard or impossible situation to read. Hope they don't fuck up how they write it and make it feel forced.
  • AzureAzure E-Sports is fucking retarded. Joined: Posts: 9,325 ✭✭✭ Former OG
    RockBogart wrote: »
    crucades wrote: »
    Rock mad as fuck cause he skipped history class or some shit, I get fanbois defending this but damn.

    How am I mad when you're the one complaining about a fictional tv show having a fictional battle? You want a year long siege when we gotta wrap this shit up in a season :rofl:

    If it was up to crucades, the white walkers would have brought down the wall before Jon could take Winterfell.
    Azure wrote: »
    Because a size proportionate baseball bat or bo staff is clearly a disadvantage in combat.

    Baseball bats are actually shit weapons.

    Bo staff nigga? Bo staff? Yes Wun Wun is gonna go from stomping and squashing to tripping people up. Great move guys

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    You're also neglecting the pyschological aspect of seeing a fellow soldier get torn half.

    Because the most effective use of a giant is putting him next to a porcupine, just so he can grab one dude out of a few thousand, and tear him in half... whilst getting skewered mortally half a hundred times over, himself.

    GOOD thinking.

    It totally would make zero sense for him to use a huge club, and outzone those Spartan wannabies, knocking them out of line, and straight out of the atmosphere.
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  • AzureAzure E-Sports is fucking retarded. Joined: Posts: 9,325 ✭✭✭ Former OG

    Reticently wrote: »
    She was right to warn Jon, but her "advice" was pretty much shit. It isn't like Jon had a ton of other options to explore given his total lack of resources or manpower compared to Bolton's.

    Also, Ned really should have taught the kids how to zig-zag. I don't care how good of a shot Ramsay was, you're only going to hit an erratically moving target with an arrow through luck.

    Sansa: You all think you know him. Did you ever think to consult me?
    Jon: Ok, so tell me what we should do.
    Sansa: don't lose, idk lol
    Jon: Know yo place, shut yo face

    SJW tripe, to a T.

    All the way down to having a beta come and White Knight to bail her stupid ass out.
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  • GHOSTMACHINESGHOSTMACHINES Destroyer of Mouthbreathers Joined: Posts: 1,659
    Raz0r wrote: »
    Yet she's useless.

    She has drive, but she doesn't have the power to draw people in like Jon has. Jon has legit united people, Sansa can't really do that.

    But Littlefinger wants to fuck her and pretend she's Catlyn, so I guess that gives her at least a bit of power since she can pussy whip him.
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  • MCPMCP Joined: Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    rcaido wrote: »
    Man was I the only one rooting for Ramsey to live...Rest in Pieces, one of the best villains of all time!

    Sansa being influence by Littlefinger, im pretty sure she sacrafice John & his army; waiting for the last minute to gain the advantage for the attack...Total cutthroat!

    Don't worry. Euron is going to be worse, much worse. If Ramsay is the worst non-magic human, then Euron is going wield magic magic so hard that Ramsay looks like a child.

    Euron understands gods don't exist. People think magic is from gods but almost all magic is based on blood sacrifice. He's going to sacrifice so many people, his own son, his kin, his religion, your religion, the old gods, the new gods, the lord of light, the god of tits, all of them. He's going to summon a tidal wave, a Kraken, and he's going to sacrifice an entire city to grant himself long life. (not spoilers, just guessing)

    He's going to become the drowned god, the red god, the old gods, and all the fucking new gods.
  • ReticentlyReticently Joined: Posts: 4,103
    TV Euron is a sad mockery of book Euron at this point.
  • T20thoughtsT20thoughts Shurororororo! Joined: Posts: 1,612
    Book Euron has an actual purpose and actually impresses his way into the Iron Throne. TV Euron is LOLEVIL and most of the Ironborn seem to be fine with this. Poor Iron Islands got Dorne'd.
  • FrágmentFrágment Joined: Posts: 536
    edited June 2016
    I found it a bit odd Ghost was mysteriously absent all episode
    He was left at Castle Black.


    Japanese dubs are always exhilarating, check at Benjen's VA!! XD

    And after those battle graphics now I feel like I would like a cheesy GOT musou XD
  • GreyFoxxGreyFoxx R.I.P Brother. Joined: Posts: 4,485
    So Orochi Snow vs Orochi Rick? Who would win? Either way Final ep better let that shit fly hardcore.
  • FrágmentFrágment Joined: Posts: 536
    Reticently wrote: »
    I don't know man. He might cut her. Might threaten to and get weirded out of it by her new completely unsure of herself and feeling guilty about it shtick. Might get confused about the moral ambiguity of it all given he was more than happy to use her abilities to bring Jon back.

    It's a hard or impossible situation to read. Hope they don't fuck up how they write it and make it feel forced.

    I hope Melissandre's going to reveal Shireen's sacrifice was a fake one and she feels remorse for making Stannis lose.
  • T20thoughtsT20thoughts Shurororororo! Joined: Posts: 1,612
    Fun realization: Ramsay's a pretty good shot with a bow, isn't he? Hit that running-in-a-straight-line boy at quite the distance. Shot Wun Wun right in the eye.

    Did the latter while Jon was standing right next to Wun Wun, and not paying attention.

    Ramsay CHOSE not to kill Jon. He knew he was a goner, and decided to have fun with his last moments.

    So yeah. While Ramsay was overplayed throughout his run in GoT, he was in great shape in this episode.
  • FrágmentFrágment Joined: Posts: 536
    Yeah, from his first appearance it was made clear Ramsay's strong was with the bow.

    Killing the giant was the right move; if he killed Jon, the giant would squeeze him as a grape. With Jon alive, he had a chance to being spared or something.
  • Raz0rRaz0r Did you really just write that? Joined: Posts: 26,006 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Yeah, no. Ramsay knew he was dead either way. They pretty much told him that in their parlay.
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  • LivewireXLivewireX Joined: Posts: 5,888
    Reticently wrote: »
    TV Euron is a sad mockery of book Euron at this point.

    That's still nothing next to comparing Show Stannis with Book Stannis. Or hell, with comparing Show Dorne with Boo Dorne especially.