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  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,772
    Got a few TF related items. ALL AWESOME

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    My girl got these for me. It's the first Christmas, and she listened well. These little guys are AWESOME!

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    Quick Size Comparison
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    Megashoton (Targetmaster "Not" Megatron)'s gun more is kinda tacky, but the robot mode is something serious

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    Optiaim (TargetMaster "Not" Optimus Prime) gun mode is pretty serious
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    SHOULDER CANNON!!!!!
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    Then my bros got this for me. Totally Unexpected

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    Damn you Michael Bay.....................you temptress.
    The Prince of Masturbation.........

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    Damn you Michael Bay.....................you temptress.


    I want it. However, with talks of a 4th movie, it kinda makes it irrelevant. That is some of the best packaging I have ever seen for a movie though. Too bad that Prime statue isn't up for grabs LOL.
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    Sorry if these were already posted.
    "You have to be a badass if you ride a giant seahorse." -Grant Morrison on why Aquaman is badass
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  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,772
    Watching the Headmasters series, I am actually impressed. I am drawn to watch it day to day. Usually, I do 4 eps at a time. Honestly, the series is pretty solid. I just wish that Daniel and Wheelie would be sent to oblivion. As far as the Japanese Series go, Victory is still #1 . . . . so far.
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  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,772
    FOC BRUTICUS. . . . IN TOY FORM!

    http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/new-pictures-of-fall-of-cybertron-combaticons-174325/
    http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/pics-of-fall-of-cybertron-vortex-and-blast-off-toys-174328/

    The Money Shot
    http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/full-foc-bruticus-toy-revealed-174327/

    In all honesty, I feel that the figure is mistransformed due to the proportions. However, this is probably the first true combiner (not counting the PCC stuff) that we've seen in a very long time.

    The games seriously need to expand the toyline.
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  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,772
    3rd Party Masterpiece Soundwave!

    http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/527016-new-design-ft-02-g1-cartoon-soundwave.html

    I don't plan to buy it, but we all know HasTak will never do an official one. This is GDLK!
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  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,772
    Your Next Masterpiece figure is . . . ..

    MP-12 SIDESWIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/mp-12-lambor-sideswipe-announced-174574/

    SO FUCKING BOUGHT I CAN'T STAND IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • UnshapedOrkRandomNumberUnshapedOrkRandomNumber Far too kinky. Joined: Posts: 735
    Your Next Masterpiece figure is . . . ..

    MP-12 SIDESWIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/mp-12-lambor-sideswipe-announced-174574/

    SO FUCKING BOUGHT I CAN'T STAND IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    :(

    Not that I'm angry or anything, but seriously, I've been hoping for a Masterpiece Dinobot since Megatron was announced. The original toy was great in functionality but looked nothing like the character model on the show in beast mode. The next attempt at a Dinobot figure was really odd-looking and still not much like the show's version. I think it's impossible to get a good-looking Dinobot without going to the Masterpiece scale of price and complexity (Hey, they made a good-looking gun Megatron, so anything is possible).

    Unfortunately, all the Masterpiece figures so far have been G1 characters. I was expecting Soundwave, Bumblebee, or Shockwave to be the next one, but I guess none of them lend themselves to recolors as well as Sideswipe.
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    :(

    Not that I'm angry or anything, but seriously, I've been hoping for a Masterpiece Dinobot since Megatron was announced. The original toy was great in functionality but looked nothing like the character model on the show in beast mode. The next attempt at a Dinobot figure was really odd-looking and still not much like the show's version. I think it's impossible to get a good-looking Dinobot without going to the Masterpiece scale of price and complexity (Hey, they made a good-looking gun Megatron, so anything is possible).

    Unfortunately, all the Masterpiece figures so far have been G1 characters. I was expecting Soundwave, Bumblebee, or Shockwave to be the next one, but I guess none of them lend themselves to recolors as well as Sideswipe.


    Dinobot as in Beast Wars Dinobot or Dinobot as in "THE DINOBOTS".

    I'll be honest, I wouldn't hold your breath for MP BW Dinobot. While I would definitely purchase it:
    1. It won't be the type of fan service in the figure that we would want. The Beast Wars are IMO the greatest story in Transformers Lore (with Transformers Prime being a close second) and Dinobot is the Greatest character ever created since G1. It's going to be hard to translate flesh and muscle into a robot, especially with the proportions. The bone legs are going to be a marvel of TF engineering if its pulled off. Similar to MP Hot Rod, there will be more panel shifting to cover parts and that can get quite silly. Think about the chest head transformation:

      Beast Mode

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      Robot Mode
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    2. You can't repaint him. Oh yes, we know Red Alert might was well be announced as MP-14. I don't think HASTAK would be that bold to do a Sunstreaker with this figure, but I definitely see a Tiger Tracks Repaint coming.
    3. Robotic Forms are more appealing across the board. Think about it, since Beast Wars and Beast Machines, there has not been a beast based line since. Even in the Beast Wars, they went to a more Robotic look (Transmetals).
    Not saying its impossible, but it's highly unlikely.


    And regarding your other selections for MP Figures:

    Bumblebee: VW does not allow the use of their brand associated with war toys. This is also why you will never see an MP Jazz.

    Shockwave: I wouldn't rule him out just yet.

    Soundwave: Have no clue as to why not! The third party release is gonna be pretty spiffy though.
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  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,772
    As far as MP Figures go, here is what you are looking at:

    MP-01: Convoy (Optimus Prime)
    MP-01B: Convoy Black Version
    MP-01L: Convoy Final Edition
    MP-02: Ultra Magnus
    MP-03: Starscream
    MP-03: Starscream (USA Edition)
    MP-03G: Starscream Ghost Version
    MP-04: Convoy Perfect Edition
    MP-04S: Convoy Sleep Mode
    MP-05: Megatron
    MP-06: Skywarp
    MP-07: Thundercracker
    MP-08: Grimlock
    MP-08X: King Grimlock
    MP-09: Rodimus Convoy (Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime)
    MP-09B: Black Rodimus Convoy
    MP-10: Convoy (Optimus Prime)
    MP-11: Starscream (Coronation gear and tweaked leg placement of plane kibble)

    Yeah, that's retarded. Technically speaking there have only been 6 molds (2 are the same character).

    Optimus Prime
    Starscream
    Megatron
    Grimlock
    Hot Rod/ Rodimus Prime
    Optimus Prime Redux


    (to be) Sideswipe


    I hope that now since the figures are being made smaller, this allows them to make more varied molds. I know Red Alert is a shoe in, but I don't think there will be much more than that with MP-12. More than likely, Red Alert will be a eHobby exclusive of that mold. By the way, MP-11 is the version of Starscream to get if you don't own it.

    EDIT:
    **Full Body Sketch of MP-12**

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  • UnshapedOrkRandomNumberUnshapedOrkRandomNumber Far too kinky. Joined: Posts: 735
    Dinobot as in Beast Wars Dinobot or Dinobot as in "THE DINOBOTS".

    I'll be honest, I wouldn't hold your breath for MP BW Dinobot. While I would definitely purchase it:

    ...

    Not saying its impossible, but it's highly unlikely.
    Ah, thanks. I guess it is unlikely, but like you, I would definitely buy it.
    Soundwave: Have no clue as to why not! The third party release is gonna be pretty spiffy though.
    Oooh, third party MP Soundwave?
  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,772
    Ah, thanks. I guess it is unlikely, but like you, I would definitely buy it.

    Oooh, third party MP Soundwave?
    http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/527016-new-design-ft-02-g1-cartoon-soundwave.html
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  • FighterXFighterX Joined: Posts: 1,648
    I can't believe it. I can't believe it. They are doing an MP that isn't a Prime or a Jet. Holy crap. I will be all over this one.

    My next anticipated releases are:

    Knight Morpher Starscream
    KM Skywarp
    KM Thundercracker

    Cybertron Starscream
    Cybertron Skywarp
    Cybertron Thundercracker

    MP Lambor/Sideswipde

    TF Prime Knockout
    TF Prime Vehicon
    TF Prime Skywarp

    I'm keeping it simple this year. Starting last year, I reduced the amount of toys I purchased. I will only buy my "must haves". No more line filler. Now, if it's a Seeker, then yes, it will most likely be on my list. I'm sucker for the big three. I'm waiting for a good deal before I purchase the latest MP Starscream.
  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,772
    I can't believe it. I can't believe it. They are doing an MP that isn't a Prime or a Jet. Holy crap. I will be all over this one.

    My next anticipated releases are:

    Knight Morpher Starscream
    KM Skywarp
    KM Thundercracker

    Cybertron Starscream
    Cybertron Skywarp
    Cybertron Thundercracker

    MP Lambor/Sideswipde

    TF Prime Knockout
    TF Prime Vehicon
    TF Prime Skywarp

    I'm keeping it simple this year. Starting last year, I reduced the amount of toys I purchased. I will only buy my "must haves". No more line filler. Now, if it's a Seeker, then yes, it will most likely be on my list. I'm sucker for the big three. I'm waiting for a good deal before I purchase the latest MP Starscream.

    KM Skywarp is gonna get bought. Any Black and Purple Decepticon I am typically all over. WFC/FOC Starscream looks pretty serious. For those that have not seen it:

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    FighterX, like you said, we know that the other 2 are coming right after this. I just hope Skywarp is not a JP exclusive, that seems to be the trend as of late. Hasbro has teased us saying that there will be 40 releases under the Generations banner in 2013. So you can cut down to 37. The whole FOC figure line up seems to be very Decepticon heavy.

    I already started my TF Prime Asst. I have the Powerizer Optimus Prime. It's not a bad figure and I actually recommend, its just that the First Edition looks better. I will admit, I am supposed to be getting a position change at work, and I will get paid out for my leave (going from Temporary grant employee to Permanent party), so that's about a check and a 1/2 (plus my standard pay with raise). I'll spend some cheese to get FE Prime. I also want to look into the following pic:

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    Xovergen is doing a Powermaster Prime upgrade for Classic/ Henkei Prime. I am concerned about the QC for this upgrade, due to their initial release of Grand Patriot (which was a god awful figure in terms of price and the QC issues IMO). They look like they have learned something this go round. If reviews are solid, I am getting this. I need to also get the Battle Tanker Trailer for RTS G2 Prime.

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  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,772
    Personally, I think HasTak need to make this their new Masterpiece Line up



    Prowl/ Bluestreak
    Trailbreaker
    Wheeljack
    Ironhide/ Ratchet
    Mirage
    Sunstreaker
    Sideswipe

    Sadly Jazz, Cliffjumper, and Bumblebee will never get licensed. all the cons need is a Redo of Megatron, Season 2 Seekers, Soundwave, and Shockwave.
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    KM Skywarp is gonna get bought. Any Black and Purple Decepticon I am typically all over. WFC/FOC Starscream looks pretty serious. For those that have not seen it:

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    FighterX, like you said, we know that the other 2 are coming right after this. I just hope Skywarp is not a JP exclusive, that seems to be the trend as of late. Hasbro has teased us saying that there will be 40 releases under the Generations banner in 2013. So you can cut down to 37. The whole FOC figure line up seems to be very Decepticon heavy.

    That's always my biggest hindrance when it comes to getting "the big 3" in a line released on our side of the ocean. I always anticipate that I'll have to throw a football through a tire-swing to get them all, but I figure I'll just end up paying around $40 for the exclusive at BBTS. It's great that we are getting so many Deceps because it seems that any line released is 60/40 when it comes to autobots vs. deceps considering that toy cars are probably more popular with kids than jets.
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    Any of you guys planning to go to Botcon? If so, you may not be getting your 3rd party swag on. Apparently they are banning all 3rd party unofficially licensed releases from the dealer room floor.
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  • AlenthAlenth Joined: Posts: 560
    There is some fans of "Transformers Victory/Masterforce" here? :( i was lucky to see the entire series on my country but is unfortunate how they never were transmited on North America :/
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    Any of you guys planning to go to Botcon? If so, you may not be getting your 3rd party swag on. Apparently they are banning all 3rd party unofficially licensed releases from the dealer room floor.

    Yeah, I saw that. I guess their buttons finally got pushed in hard enough. The 3rd Party items used to drift in maybe 2 or 3 per year. Now I'm seeing something announced every MONTH almost. It was starting to get a bit overwhelming.
    There is some fans of "Transformers Victory/Masterforce" here? :( i was lucky to see the entire series on my country but is unfortunate how they never were transmited on North America :/

    I have never seen it, but I have to make time to get the DVDs. I hear they were actually really good, but yeah, too bad they stopped getting broadcasted after Season 3 here in the U.S.
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    Any of you guys planning to go to Botcon? If so, you may not be getting your 3rd party swag on. Apparently they are banning all 3rd party unofficially licensed releases from the dealer room floor.
    Pretty weak but I saw it coming.

    Masterforce is fucking baller as hell. Sixshot, Sixknight, and Giga/Omega were awesome. Wasn't a big fan of Victory, the last quater was cool though.
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    There is some fans of "Transformers Victory/Masterforce" here? :( i was lucky to see the entire series on my country but is unfortunate how they never were transmited on North America :/

    Yes, Victory is my SH*T!!!!!!!!!!! The entire Japanese series setup is pretty gangsta in general. I have to finish watching Headmasters, but overall it's solid as well.
    Yeah, I saw that. I guess their buttons finally got pushed in hard enough. The 3rd Party items used to drift in maybe 2 or 3 per year. Now I'm seeing something announced every MONTH almost. It was starting to get a bit overwhelming.

    I know. I actually like this move from Hasbro. It is essentially the Transformers Trade show and I think this is fair. You want to keep focus on your product and hype up those releases. Granted, some of the 3rd party stuff has been pretty sick, there are others that are slightly redesigned version of retail releases (iGear Seekers). I just wish Hasbro would say what is in and what is out. Add ons should be welcomed, however full figures may not make the cut, especially those that are engineered by Hasbro themselves. The fandom also has some blame for this, as if they did not keep asking "What are you going to do about these third parties", they wouldn't have acted as clearly they have been turning their back to the problem. Essentially, the fandom trolled on itself.

    The company that runs the conference (who also runs the TF Fan Club website) has very little to be desired. With the exclusives not being that imaginative IMO and a seriously needed website overhaul, I don't see what you are really paying for (regarding the Official TF Club)I don't know if any of you heard, but they recently got their credit card information compromised so you may want to be on the look out if you have purchased anything recently.
    Pretty weak but I saw it coming.

    Masterforce is fucking baller as hell. Sixshot, Sixknight, and Giga/Omega were awesome. Wasn't a big fan of Victory, the last quater was cool though.

    I kinda wish that the pretenders didn't become the weaker sets of robots. However, I loved seeing Ginrai get the FIRE GUTS!
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    The fandom also has some blame for this, as if they did not keep asking "What are you going to do about these third parties", they wouldn't have acted as clearly they have been turning their back to the problem. Essentially, the fandom trolled on itself.

    The company that runs the conference (who also runs the TF Fan Club website) has very little to be desired. With the exclusives not being that imaginative IMO and a seriously needed website overhaul, I don't see what you are really paying for (regarding the Official TF Club)I don't know if any of you heard, but they recently got their credit card information compromised so you may want to be on the look out if you have purchased anything recently.

    People who asked those questions were well aware that Hasbro had been trying to dodge those subject. It was just the person trying to piss everyone else off in the room and get attention. The fandom has know for years about Hasbro's "look the other way" policy.

    I got lucky in the card compromise situation. Just so happens that my old cards expired and new ones were being sent, so no problems on my end. But I did get hit the year before, either from the PS3 fiasco or the purchase of Punch/Counterpunch. I didn't lose a dime because my bank stopped my card when weird charges started showing up. Also, I am not renewing next year. I'm tired of all these shady business deals and having to deal with the TFCC's antiquated practices. It took all of this for them to FINALLY get a new website. But that's been my attitude with a lot of things as of late when it comes to other businesses taking advantage of their customers. Vote with your wallet.
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    People who asked those questions were well aware that Hasbro had been trying to dodge those subject. It was just the person trying to piss everyone else off in the room and get attention. The fandom has know for years about Hasbro's "look the other way" policy.

    I got lucky in the card compromise situation. Just so happens that my old cards expired and new ones were being sent, so no problems on my end. But I did get hit the year before, either from the PS3 fiasco or the purchase of Punch/Counterpunch. I didn't lose a dime because my bank stopped my card when weird charges started showing up. Also, I am not renewing next year. I'm tired of all these shady business deals and having to deal with the TFCC's antiquated practices. It took all of this for them to FINALLY get a new website. But that's been my attitude with a lot of things as of late when it comes to other businesses taking advantage of their customers. Vote with your wallet.


    I agree. However, there was such a Rage Outcry for stuff like iGear that it frankly got annoying. We'll see how this goes in the years to come
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    Yeah, I am all for 3rd party stuff, but I knew it would be a matter of time before Hasbro did something about it. I mean, nothing is worse than being shown up by other companies at your own show and using your venue for their own advertising. They've banned 3rd party items from BotCon, and personally, I don't blame them. I figured they'd have done it years ago.

    Now even though the notice has been put out for people to leave their 3rd party stuff at home, I can GUARANTEE that someone is going to try to bring something anyway and then cry about it when they aren't let into the show with it.
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    Yeah, I am all for 3rd party stuff, but I knew it would be a matter of time before Hasbro did something about it. I mean, nothing is worse than being shown up by other companies at your own show and using your venue for their own advertising. They've banned 3rd party items from BotCon, and personally, I don't blame them. I figured they'd have done it years ago.

    Now even though the notice has been put out for people to leave their 3rd party stuff at home, I can GUARANTEE that someone is going to try to bring something anyway and then cry about it when they aren't let into the show with it.

    I think Hasbro did the right thing. 3rd party, while great, is not a "Transformer" by HasTak. We know that someone is going to try to make that quick money and be an asshat. 3rd party items are going to have a black market venue for those items. I suspect a booth outside of the venue or an actual room being setup. All they need to do is put up an easel and say "ASK ABOUT OUR OTHER PRODUCTS".
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    My girl does not help with the Addiction LOL

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    I'll post some pics of the Revoltech figure in the next couple days. In short, its pretty awesome, despite being an overpriced Action master LOL.
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    I fucking love Revoltechs, really wanna get one of those. I have the old DW Rev Megs and Starscream.
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    I fucking love Revoltechs, really wanna get one of those. I have the old DW Rev Megs and Starscream.


    It's very impressive despite its small size. He's about the size of a deluxe class figure, but is incredibly detailed. IMO, it's what the Action Master should have been.

    I just need to find a stand for this guy as it is not included. Any ideas on where to pick one up?
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  • Lord_RaptorLord_Raptor Joined: Posts: 8,810
    I usually buy from AmiAmi, you'd have to get Di Stages though. Don't think Kaiyodo sells the stages

    If you like the Revos alot I would look into the Getter Robo Revos, Sengoku Basara, and the Full Metal Panic ones.
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    I usually buy from AmiAmi, you'd have to get Di Stages though. Don't think Kaiyodo sells the stages

    If you like the Revos alot I would look into the Getter Robo Revos, Sengoku Basara, and the Full Metal Panic ones.

    What in the deuce are those stands called on this site? I can't find anything about em
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    Turns out AmiAmi stopped carrying them -_-
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    SON OF A BISCUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now how will I show Prime taking faces from the Air LOL.

    I really like this guy. Like I said, he's not the biggest thing in the world, but poseable as all get out.

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  • True GraveTrue Grave Keepaway Specialist Joined: Posts: 3,554
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    Awesome! I can already predict with 100% certainty that we'll also see a Sunstreaker & Red Alert if MP Sideswipe really gets made. They love they're recolors afterall.

    Oh the rich man's hobby that is Transformer collecting....perhaps one day....

    Edit: Seriously hoping that MP Sideswipe is better quality than MP Rodimus. MP Rodimus was a cheaply made peice-O-crap! For shame. I had one and while i loved the design, i sold it when i came to the eventual realization that i'd INEVITABLY break it one day when attempting its tight transformation(it didn't help that the first one i got from Toys'r'us was broken in the package and i had to return for a replacement).

    Sad as Rodimus Prime is one of my favorite character's and he didn't get a fair shake during his term as leader imo.
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  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,772
    Awesome! I can already predict with 100% certainty that we'll also see a Sunstreaker & Red Alert if MP Sideswipe really gets made. They love they're recolors afterall.

    Oh the rich man's hobby that is Transformer collecting....perhaps one day....

    Edit: Seriously hoping that MP Sideswipe is better quality than MP Rodimus. MP Rodimus was a cheaply made peice-O-crap! For shame. I had one and while i loved the design, i sold it when i came to the eventual realization that i'd INEVITABLY break it one day when attempting its tight transformation(it didn't help that the first one i got from Toys'r'us was broken in the package and i had to return for a replacement).

    Sad as Rodimus Prime is one of my favorite character's and he didn't get a fair shake during his term as leader imo.

    Red Alert is a guarantee. Sunstreaker in recent years has been a repaint, but the OG toy was actually a totally different move. Since this is their collectors accurate line, HasTak will (hopefully) not do that. Check out the Roll call Vid I posted a few days back, towards the end Sideswipe and Sunstreaker both transform. Similar vehicle modes, totally different sculpt and transformation.

    MP Rodimus has a ton of QC issues in his first run. The US release fixed all of those problems at the expense of a G1 Toy accurate (not as detailed) paint job in comparison to the Toon Accurate JP release.

    Regarding the series, I agree that Rodimus didn't get a chance as he literally was in Prime's shadow. This was both in the show and in the toy line marketing. Prime's death literally killed Transformers as we knew it. Sales plummeted and Hasbro received nastygrams from viewers of the 86 movie. This is why Prime returns in the series so late in the game.
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  • True GraveTrue Grave Keepaway Specialist Joined: Posts: 3,554
    Red Alert is a guarantee. Sunstreaker in recent years has been a repaint, but the OG toy was actually a totally different move. Since this is their collectors accurate line, HasTak will (hopefully) not do that. Check out the Roll call Vid I posted a few days back, towards the end Sideswipe and Sunstreaker both transform. Similar vehicle modes, totally different sculpt and transformation.

    Yup i remember from the G1 days. Never had a sunstreaker, just G1 sideswipe. Anyway recolors are a given with character molds like these, so i wouldn't blame them for doing a recolor and calling it sunstreaker as long as its an accurate one.

    If they put a new head on him, even better.
    MP Rodimus has a ton of QC issues in his first run. The US release fixed all of those problems

    The U.S version most certainly has its own QC issues, and overall cheap construction.
    at the expense of a G1 Toy accurate (not as detailed) paint job in comparison to the Toon Accurate JP release.

    They aimed at making him look like the G1 hotrod toy actually. Since he has no trailer & included his targetmaster + G1 hotrod colors, in a way we got a different character than japan.
    Regarding the series, I agree that Rodimus didn't get a chance as he literally was in Prime's shadow.

    Yup and aside from getting prime killed lol, his "transformation" into Rodimus was done so well in the movie imo. It was the quintessential coming of age trope, where the young underdog rises up against the odds and comes into his own, (temporarily for roddy)escaping the shadow of those before him and taking charge.

    Plus just a great looking bot design, and i liked his stoic personality in season 3.
    This was both in the show and in the toy line marketing. Prime's death literally killed Transformers as we knew it. Sales plummeted and Hasbro received nastygrams from viewers of the 86 movie. This is why Prime returns in the series so late in the game.

    I dunno about that. The 3rd season era of G1 had some of the coolest toys in the whole line-up. Abominus, Ultra Magnus, Seacons, scorponok, Metroplex, monsterbots, headmasters, pretenders, etc.

    Still have a special place in my heart for the Season 1/2 "earth" style TFers, but the futuristic stuff was just great. Even the packaging style rocked.

    Kids were upset at Prime's death but i doubt toy sales plummeted too.
    "Power without perception, is spiritually useless and therefore of no true value"
  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,772
    Yup i remember from the G1 days. Never had a sunstreaker, just G1 sideswipe. Anyway recolors are a given with character molds like these, so i wouldn't blame them for doing a recolor and calling it sunstreaker as long as its an accurate one.

    If they put a new head on him, even better.

    I pray they do more than just do a different head. It will no doubt become the biggest controversy to Transformers since Trukk not Munky
    The U.S version most certainly has its own QC issues, and overall cheap construction.

    I'd disagree to a point. While the Rodimus mold has issues with the shell/ panel based transformation, the issues with the warping and stresses on the JP release are not present in the US. Certain things in his construction are inherently flawed, particularly the panels in his legs.
    They aimed at making him look like the G1 hotrod toy actually. Since he has no trailer & included his targetmaster + G1 hotrod colors, in a way we got a different character than japan.

    I know. The US got a toy based version, JP got the cartoon accurate version. In the grand scheme of things, the US version was a less detailed version despite being "G1 Toy Accurate". I do own this figure and don't regret the purchase. $53 vs. $209 plus shipping was reason enough. I don't "care" about Rodimus enough to warrant the trailer and frankly, the targetmaster was a better add on IMO.
    Yup and aside from getting prime killed lol, his "transformation" into Rodimus was done so well in the movie imo. It was the quintessential coming of age trope, where the young underdog rises up against the odds and comes into his own, (temporarily for roddy)escaping the shadow of those before him and taking charge.
    Plus just a great looking bot design, and i liked his stoic personality in season 3.
    LOL very true. However, then Optimus comes back and saves the day (like he does countless times). Regards to his personality, it was cool. I just think if they made him more bad ass earlier on, it may have helped.

    I dunno about that. The 3rd season era of G1 had some of the coolest toys in the whole line-up. Abominus, Ultra Magnus, Seacons, scorponok, Metroplex, monsterbots, headmasters, pretenders, etc.

    Still have a special place in my heart for the Season 1/2 "earth" style TFers, but the futuristic stuff was just great. Even the packaging style rocked.

    Kids were upset at Prime's death but i doubt toy sales plummeted too.

    Oh yes, some of the best toys to date came out in that era. My favorite TF Gimmick (Targetmasters) came from the latter part of the series. Unfortunately killing Prime did more harm than good to the line up. Despite the show being solid, the ratings tanked and product didn't move like it used to. Hasbro did that move at the end to appease the masses, but it did not work. Think about it, (in the western side of the world) Optimus has carried the series as he is recognizable and is an established part of the brand. Unless established off the jump that Optimus Prime does not exist (e.g. Beast Wars), it will be hard for the line to have as much merit.

    I am patiently waiting for a series without Optimus Prime (not like BW) as it would be a new change of pace for the line up.
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  • True GraveTrue Grave Keepaway Specialist Joined: Posts: 3,554
    I know. The US got a toy based version, JP got the cartoon accurate version. In the grand scheme of things, the US version was a less detailed version despite being "G1 Toy Accurate". I do own this figure and don't regret the purchase. $53 vs. $209 plus shipping was reason enough. I don't "care" about Rodimus enough to warrant the trailer and frankly, the targetmaster was a better add on IMO.

    Don't think you quite understood what i meant, we got different characters. Japan got MP Rodimus Prime, and we got MP Hotrod.

    Japan release: Cartoon rodimus & G1 rodimus toy accurate colors & flames + Trailer w/No targetmaster.

    U.S: G1 Hotrod toy accurate colors & flames + stickers + Hotrod's Targetmaster w/no trailer.

    Even though they both share the name Rodimus, clearly they meant for the U.S version to really be MP Hotrod instead. Too many signs add up.
    I am patiently waiting for a series without Optimus Prime (not like BW) as it would be a new change of pace for the line up.

    G1 deserves big props for attempting this more than once early on, regardless of their reasons for doing so. Starting with rodimus/Galvatron in season 3, and later with the japanese series and their different leaders.
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  • Optimus124Optimus124 Joined: Posts: 3,772
    Don't think you quite understood what i meant, we got different characters. Japan got MP Rodimus Prime, and we got MP Hotrod.

    Japan release: Cartoon rodimus & G1 rodimus toy accurate colors & flames + Trailer w/No targetmaster.

    U.S: G1 Hotrod toy accurate colors & flames + stickers + Hotrod's Targetmaster w/no trailer.

    Even though they both share the name Rodimus, clearly they meant for the U.S version to really be MP Hotrod instead. Too many signs add up.



    G1 deserves big props for attempting this more than once early on, regardless of their reasons for doing so. Starting with rodimus/Galvatron in season 3, and later with the japanese series and their different leaders.

    No I got you. Hot Rod is actually trademarked elsewhere. That is the only reason why he carried the Rodimus name for the US Release. The only reference to Hot Rod is on the back of the box where it states :Transforms into Hot Rod", and that was in reference to the vehicle mode. The Rodimus Prime conversion/ mode is just a by product of the figure itself. They couldn't engineer it out LOL.

    Let them release a MP Star Saber. I'd just hand HasTak my wallet LOL
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  • True GraveTrue Grave Keepaway Specialist Joined: Posts: 3,554
    No I got you. Hot Rod is actually trademarked elsewhere. That is the only reason why he carried the Rodimus name for the US Release. The only reference to Hot Rod is on the back of the box where it states :Transforms into Hot Rod", and that was in reference to the vehicle mode. The Rodimus Prime conversion/ mode is just a by product of the figure itself. They couldn't engineer it out LOL.

    Well regardless of name issues, both sides basically got an "exclusive" character.

    As for the bot itself, i dunno about you but i rarely did the extendable waist thing for more height when in "rodimus" mode. I felt the figure had nice height as is, and that little extension kinda made it look disproportionately taller and funny looking.

    Also is it just me, or does the figure look a lot cooler in pictures? For some reason in person he looks a bit lanky & thin. Plus while the figure was designed pretty well, it seemed like it had juuuust enough flaws in its articulation to prevent it from taking some of the cooler poses around.

    Anyway, design of this figure was nice. I thought it was impressive how the robot mode looked so toon-character accurate with little to no kibble, like an action master. Yet could somehow perfectly form such a sweet vehicle mode.
    "Power without perception, is spiritually useless and therefore of no true value"

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