The PC gaming Thread. Steam/GOG/Origin/Etc. Game/Software/Hardware talk.

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  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Yeah, so those games wont work. Something about Steam DRM or some crap. I looked around and shit but really couldnt get any solid info. According to some dude the Steam version of Bioshock wont work unless you open the game using Steam. But if you buy the same game from Amazon it will work without Steam.

    Sonicabids hate isnt...I dont what the word I want is. But yeah, I cant hate on him for hating on Steam DRM. It is pretty shitty that I cant play this games that I purchased without using Steam. But then I agreed to this crap so whatever. Most of the time I dont even notice. I mean, if whoever wouldnt have asked if putting them on disc works I would have never even thought about it.
    when I die... may there be friends who will grieve for me,who will carry our shared joys and pains, who will carry my memory
    This is the immortality of the spirit, the ever-lingering legacy, the fuel of grief.
    but so, too, the fuel of faith
    -Drizzt Do'Urden

    "Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power. Good. Thank you, thank you. If you vote me, I'm hot. What? Taxes, they'll be lower... son. The Democratic vote is the right thing to do Philadelphia, so do."
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,822
    Valve is trying to get more Japanese developers to put games up on Steam.
    http://www.siliconera.com/2012/09/07/valve-contacted-japanese-developers-to-bring-their-games-to-steam/

    Marvelous entertainment answered the call. I hope they bring over No More Heroes .
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  • SonicabidSonicabid What's wrong with- Joined: Posts: 12,290
    Yeah, so those games wont work. Something about Steam DRM or some crap. I looked around and shit but really couldnt get any solid info. According to some dude the Steam version of Bioshock wont work unless you open the game using Steam. But if you buy the same game from Amazon it will work without Steam.

    Sonicabids hate isnt...I dont what the word I want is. But yeah, I cant hate on him for hating on Steam DRM. It is pretty shitty that I cant play this games that I purchased without using Steam. But then I agreed to this crap so whatever. Most of the time I dont even notice. I mean, if whoever wouldnt have asked if putting them on disc works I would have never even thought about it.

    I think that Steam is a good service, but some of the things they've been doing recently have been pretty shady. A new TOS they put out states that they can literally delete your Steam account for *no fucking reason* and you'll lose all your games+money spent+money in your wallet, and then right below that they say that you cannot sue them for doing so. GGPO.

    Digital games on Steam aren't safe, either. Certain titles have been delisted service permanently and unlike PSN and Live you cannot re-download them(I believe.)

    There are a lot more examples of the things I'm talking about if you want to look, and even more extreme cases where I've seen people purchase a game, not be able to download it, have it not show up on their list, and then after contacting Steam's customer service they basically told the dude to go fuck himself and that he won't be refunded. If any of you guys doubt the things I'm talking about, read the TOS or google these things.
  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Yo, I believe you. Ive read about people having issues where the game they purchased on Steam not working right, them hitting up Steam Support and Steam Support telling them, basically, contact the game publisher and leave us alone. But yo, I hear more good things than bad and me personally, Ive never had an issue. Other than today of course, but then I never really planned on putting my games on a disc anyhow.

    Anyhow, I need to run Path of Exile and Tribes Ascend and update those fuckers (and a couple other games) and check out whats different/new/changed.
    when I die... may there be friends who will grieve for me,who will carry our shared joys and pains, who will carry my memory
    This is the immortality of the spirit, the ever-lingering legacy, the fuel of grief.
    but so, too, the fuel of faith
    -Drizzt Do'Urden

    "Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power. Good. Thank you, thank you. If you vote me, I'm hot. What? Taxes, they'll be lower... son. The Democratic vote is the right thing to do Philadelphia, so do."
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,822
    You can re-download games that have been de-list. Users who purchased Crysis II and Dragon Ago II on Steam can still re-download those games even though they are no longer available. They keep those game on the servers for those customers.

    XBL also has delete and/or ban account clause in their TOS too. Sony added the no class action sues on their TOS after their network got hacked. Steam isn't doing anything different from other services. Steam just happens to be above them in terms of their services. As long as they don't go the Origin route by making their client spyware, deleting games from your library if they haven't been played in 2 years time, and banning accounts for using particular servers.
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  • SonicabidSonicabid What's wrong with- Joined: Posts: 12,290
    Yeah I'm well aware of how PSN and Live work as well. The majority of my games are disc-based, and I try to buy physical copies of my game instead of digital copies. Sometimes games I want to play are digital-only, so I have no choice if it's a good game I'm interested in playing.

    http://www.gog.com/

    ^ There's a cool site you guys might be interested in. They mostly focus on older games, but there are a lot of newer games as well. They're all DRM-free and can be played without an internet connection. They can also be backed up too, I believe. You basically download tweaked versions of older games that are made to be compatible with all modern operating systems and specs. The fuck? These guys have Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen 2. I never knew it had a PC-release.
  • StabbyStabby 北丐 Joined: Posts: 4,149
    Even if you hate steam, you should be thankful for it.
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  • ManxManx Something is wrong... Joined: Posts: 22,400 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Torrents > Steam.

    You're telling me you guys dropped 100's, maybe 1000's of dollars on a new PC, yet you buy all your games digitally? Why not do the same thing, but not pay for it? Morals? CD-keys required to play online? You're ballin' and don't care?

    =/
    Not paying for things is unsustainable, and as an IT professional I hold to a higher standard. Also, there's nothing out there that I want so badly I'd steal it. Online subscription-based games will fucking come after you if you hack their subscription system.
    ... and I'm out like I stole somethin'
    SRK thieves lasted about 5 mins until "tha man" locked me up. Even on SRK a thief's gotta hit the underground!
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  • Smashbro29Smashbro29 Waiting for the new Framemeister... Joined: Posts: 7,199
    Valve is trying to get more Japanese developers to put games up on Steam.
    http://www.siliconera.com/2012/09/07/valve-contacted-japanese-developers-to-bring-their-games-to-steam/

    Marvelous entertainment answered the call. I hope they bring over No More Heroes .

    I'm so excited right now. I'd love to see Bayonetta on PC.

    I know it's not the same people, I just wanna play Bayonetta.
  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    How many of you guys play more than MMO's on your PC?
    when I die... may there be friends who will grieve for me,who will carry our shared joys and pains, who will carry my memory
    This is the immortality of the spirit, the ever-lingering legacy, the fuel of grief.
    but so, too, the fuel of faith
    -Drizzt Do'Urden

    "Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power. Good. Thank you, thank you. If you vote me, I'm hot. What? Taxes, they'll be lower... son. The Democratic vote is the right thing to do Philadelphia, so do."
  • Dirt Mc GirtDirt Mc Girt OLD DIRTY Joined: Posts: 1,089
    i never played a mmo on pc but i only game on pc

  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I ask because you know, I talk to people and they're like "yeah man, Im a PC gamer" so I start talking to whoever about games and shit and they're like "uhhh, all I play is [insert MMO title here].". So I think, yeah, technically you're a PC gamer because you play 1 game on your PC. But thats not really what I mean when I ask if you're a PC gamer. You know what im saying?

    Yeah, I want to talk about more than WoW or GW. I dont even play those fuckin' games.
    when I die... may there be friends who will grieve for me,who will carry our shared joys and pains, who will carry my memory
    This is the immortality of the spirit, the ever-lingering legacy, the fuel of grief.
    but so, too, the fuel of faith
    -Drizzt Do'Urden

    "Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power. Good. Thank you, thank you. If you vote me, I'm hot. What? Taxes, they'll be lower... son. The Democratic vote is the right thing to do Philadelphia, so do."
  • Smashbro29Smashbro29 Waiting for the new Framemeister... Joined: Posts: 7,199
    I ask because you know, I talk to people and they're like "yeah man, Im a PC gamer" so I start talking to whoever about games and shit and they're like "uhhh, all I play is [insert MMO title here].". So I think, yeah, technically you're a PC gamer because you play 1 game on your PC. But thats not really what I mean. You know what im saying?

    I mostly play Street Fighter and the indie stuff on Steam honestly.

    Also Sonic Generations has amazing mods.
  • King9999King9999 Joined: Posts: 10,926 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    How many of you guys play more than MMO's on your PC?

    I've been gaming on a PC since the late 80s. From C64 games to DOOM to ME3. I'll be playing Borderlands 2 on PC this time (I own the first game for PS3). Admittedly, most of my gaming experience has been console, but I never dismissed PC games. Console games just happen to have more of what I like, but there are some genres that just work better on a PC, IMO.
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  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I just picked up a pretty cool game the other day called Snapshot. I guess its an indie game...Anyhow, its a pretty fun and colorful platformer. I havent played much of it but I recorded some of that shit.

    Yeah, I also record of lot of the games I play and upload that shit to youtube. I mostly do that for another forum I frequent so the people there can...see some games they might never even hear about because they're mostly console gamers who play 1 mmo on the PC.

    when I die... may there be friends who will grieve for me,who will carry our shared joys and pains, who will carry my memory
    This is the immortality of the spirit, the ever-lingering legacy, the fuel of grief.
    but so, too, the fuel of faith
    -Drizzt Do'Urden

    "Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power. Good. Thank you, thank you. If you vote me, I'm hot. What? Taxes, they'll be lower... son. The Democratic vote is the right thing to do Philadelphia, so do."
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,822
    I don't play much MMOs. The only one I was ever committed to was DCUO and I haven't played that in months. PC has become my platform of choice to play WPRGs. Can't imagine playing games like Fallout, Deus Ex, and Skyrim on my PS3.
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  • TheEvilChinaManTheEvilChinaMan I think english! Joined: Posts: 1,160
    I play too much SWTOR, but man the end game PvP is awesome.

    I play other PC games too. The Witcher 2 stands for me as one of the best RPGs of the "HD" generation. Think heavy stat, detailed combat, mature themed zelda game with a better branching story system than any Bioware game.

    Use to play a lot of DotA and DotA2. After that tournament, I think I should go back. Prize money is too damn good.
  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I never played DCUO, currently the only MMO that I play is The Secret World and I dont really even play that much. I think the last time I logged into the game was a few months ago. I use to play WoW but that was like 4 years or more ago. I dont really play anything on a console anymore unless its exclusive to whatever console or its free on whatever console.

    Anyhow, im really just trying to shift the conversation from "why you like or dislike Steam" to "lets talk about some of them games you play on the PC".

    Ive been fuckin' around with a few different Beta's lately. Firefall, Path of Exile, Smite and couple others. Im really interested in what will come from Firefall, it seems to have the potential to be a really cool game. As it is now its pretty boring because there really isnt any PVE content. But its a beta so I wont judge, I'll just keep checkin' it out and sending my reports.

    Path of Exile is basically like Diablo with a different look. Its ok and all that, if dungeon crawler loot finding games are your thing. I like the look of it more than Diablo III but other than that they seem the same to me. Sure, skills and such are all handled different but at its core its so similar that its just OK to me, even if it is in beta.

    Smite is one of them games like...League of Legends or Awesomenauts. What is that genre called? Anyhow, its fun, once again its not really my kind of game but I do enjoy the beta a little bit.

    What the fuck are ya'll playing?

    edit - I just started some game called Singularity. Its pretty cool so far. The Wife thought it was the new Bioshock. I told her that from what Ive read about the game it is very, very similar to Bioshock. I havent gotten very far in the game yet, no powers or anything just gun play.
    when I die... may there be friends who will grieve for me,who will carry our shared joys and pains, who will carry my memory
    This is the immortality of the spirit, the ever-lingering legacy, the fuel of grief.
    but so, too, the fuel of faith
    -Drizzt Do'Urden

    "Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power. Good. Thank you, thank you. If you vote me, I'm hot. What? Taxes, they'll be lower... son. The Democratic vote is the right thing to do Philadelphia, so do."
  • SonicabidSonicabid What's wrong with- Joined: Posts: 12,290
    My most fond memories of PC gaming were in the early 00's where Quake III and Quake III-engine based games reigned supreme. Late 90's, early to mid 00's were the best times for FPS gaming, imo. I played literally nothing but various online FPS games and Diablo II for years, but then I got back into console gaming towards the end of last generation with my PS2 and Gamecube. It was all about action games for me at that time, with an odd RPG and RE game in between. 90% of the reason I own a Gamecube is because of RE.
  • DaRabidDuckieDaRabidDuckie Happiest. Duck. Ever. Joined: Posts: 9,870 mod
    I think I own around 460 games on Steam. God bless Steam sales, and god damn not having the time to play them all... o_o
    "Being degrading or insulting is not the same as being hype. Huh, I think I just solved the problem with the entire community." -- Mike Z on the FGC

  • Bomberman3000Bomberman3000 The Headshaker Joined: Posts: 2,397
    I think I own around 460 games on Steam. God bless Steam sales, and god damn not having the time to play them all... o_o

    That's why I don't go crazy when Steam does massive sales (like this past Summer Sale that went on).
    Still got some high-end games bought on the cheap (Deus Ex Human Revolution) that I still have yet to install.
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  • DaRabidDuckieDaRabidDuckie Happiest. Duck. Ever. Joined: Posts: 9,870 mod
    That's why I don't go crazy when Steam does massive sales (like this past Summer Sale that went on).
    Still got some high-end games bought on the cheap (Deus Ex Human Revolution) that I still have yet to install.
    Well, what I've started doing was buying games only three times a year, during each Steam sale. Then I spend the rest of the year playing them. I still spend less than most people who buy one retail release a month do.
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,822
    I'm trying to get in some betas. Mainly Planetside 2 and Mech Warrior online. Both of them still in closed beta and not many opportunities to get keys.
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  • Smashbro29Smashbro29 Waiting for the new Framemeister... Joined: Posts: 7,199
    So.. big screen mode should be out today, though they won's say when today and it's driving me insane.
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,822
    What is Big Picture anyway? A TV app or something
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  • King9999King9999 Joined: Posts: 10,926 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    What is Big Picture anyway? A TV app or something

    From what I've read, it's basically Steam designed for TVs, complete with pad support. Pretty big deal, especially with the kinds of games Steam has been getting lately.
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,822
    From what I've read, it's basically Steam designed for TVs, complete with pad support. Pretty big deal, especially with the kinds of games Steam has been getting lately.

    Going in that direction is better than developing a console. I don't have an internet enable TV (taking a guess on that's what's needed for this) so I can't make use of this. I'm very curious on how well Big Picture works.
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  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I asked someone if it's for "smart" TVs and he told me its just a different look for when you use a tv as a monitor. I didn't really get that. I use my tv as a monitor sometimes and Steam looks and works exactly the same from what I can tell.
    when I die... may there be friends who will grieve for me,who will carry our shared joys and pains, who will carry my memory
    This is the immortality of the spirit, the ever-lingering legacy, the fuel of grief.
    but so, too, the fuel of faith
    -Drizzt Do'Urden

    "Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power. Good. Thank you, thank you. If you vote me, I'm hot. What? Taxes, they'll be lower... son. The Democratic vote is the right thing to do Philadelphia, so do."
  • King9999King9999 Joined: Posts: 10,926 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Going in that direction is better than developing a console. I don't have an internet enable TV (taking a guess on that's what's needed for this) so I can't make use of this. I'm very curious on how well Big Picture works.

    http://store.steampowered.com/bigpicture/setup

    You just need a HDMI cable, and your PC/laptop should have a HDMI port. I'm about to try this out now.
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,822
    My PC doesn't have a HDMI port. The dream is dead.
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  • dake360dake360 Time to roll another one Joined: Posts: 114
    Pretty much

    Supporting the people.
  • Smashbro29Smashbro29 Waiting for the new Framemeister... Joined: Posts: 7,199
    But I want it. It's exactly what I've been looking for!
  • King9999King9999 Joined: Posts: 10,926 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Just tried it out. Pretty slick stuff.

    EDIT: I just tried the browser...went to Youtube, tried closing an ad and Steam crashed.
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  • dake360dake360 Time to roll another one Joined: Posts: 114
    Sweeeett Jesum, Big Picture is AWESOME, I wish Steam would just boot straight into it.
    Supporting the people.
  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    So, it just alters the interface a little, if you want it to, and adds a browser? Doesn't seem like that big of a deal, if that's the case. Did any of you try to use your tv as a monitor and launch Steam before this?

    Edit - I guess this could get those pc gamers that only play WoW to play more games. Using Steam of course.

    Edit - Yeah, Ive just decided that those kind of PC gamers are really just console gamers that want to fit in to the pc crowd. I think this is for those people.
    when I die... may there be friends who will grieve for me,who will carry our shared joys and pains, who will carry my memory
    This is the immortality of the spirit, the ever-lingering legacy, the fuel of grief.
    but so, too, the fuel of faith
    -Drizzt Do'Urden

    "Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power. Good. Thank you, thank you. If you vote me, I'm hot. What? Taxes, they'll be lower... son. The Democratic vote is the right thing to do Philadelphia, so do."
  • dake360dake360 Time to roll another one Joined: Posts: 114
    Bleh, Big Picture is a little too much for my Lappy. I'm experiencing some slight lag while it's running (It's still a gorgeous UI though).

    Oh well that's what I get for buying a subpar laptop (shrug).
    Supporting the people.
  • Smashbro29Smashbro29 Waiting for the new Framemeister... Joined: Posts: 7,199
    It needs to be able to run on the secondary monitor and essentially make all the games "take over" that second monitor almost like a different system for it to matter to me. Right now it's just a beta though.
  • King9999King9999 Joined: Posts: 10,926 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Path of Exile beta this weekend. Really digging the game. If I wasn't broke, I'd send some money their way.
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  • dake360dake360 Time to roll another one Joined: Posts: 114
    Black Mesa (a Half Life 1 remake) was finally released.

    https://twitter.com/BlackMesaDevs

    Aaaaaaand it's been greenlit by steam (free to play)

    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=94128543
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  • OsgXOsgX Joined: Posts: 1,900
    I was playing it at work. Haven't made to much progress, since I've forgotten things, but it's solid. Probably one of the best mods I've played in forever.

    Eli's voice is kinda ass though. The other scientist's was perfect.

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