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  • BadMojoBadMojo Joined: Posts: 2,557
    Not sure where to talk about this and I doubt creating a new thread for it in GD would generate enough interest to keep the topic alive for longer than a couple days before getting bumped off the first page.

    Anyways Obisidian announced a Kickstarter today called Project Eternity. It's an homage to past Infinity Engine isometric RPGs like Baldur's Gate, Fallout 1 & 2 and Planescape: Torment. Obsidian's made up of mostly ex-Black Isle Studio employees so I expect the game to be nothing short of great. Tim Cain is also working on the project, he was part of the team that made Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.

    I've already pledged $20 for a digital copy, it's pretty much what I've wanted from a WRPG.
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,320
    I'll be more comfortable if that kickstarter was for raising funds for a quality QA team. Obisidian releases the buggest games around
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  • BadMojoBadMojo Joined: Posts: 2,557
    I'll be more comfortable if that kickstarter was for raising funds for a quality QA team. Obisidian releases the buggest games around

    The publisher is usually the one responsible for QA testing. New Vegas being buggy is a combination of the gamebryo engine Obsidian was forced to work with and Bethesda not giving a fuck in general. Obsidian made their own in-house engine for Dungeon Siege 3 and its much more stable.
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,320
    The publisher is usually the one responsible for QA testing. New Vegas being buggy is a combination of the gamebryo engine Obsidian was forced to work with and Bethesda not giving a fuck in general. Obsidian made their own in-house engine for Dungeon Siege 3 and its much more stable.

    New Vegas isn't even the buggest release. Thinking about the wasted potential of Alpha Protocol. That game just didn't work.
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  • BadMojoBadMojo Joined: Posts: 2,557
    New Vegas isn't even the buggest release. Thinking about the wasted potential of Alpha Protocol. That game just didn't work.

    Alpha Protocol shouldn't have been released, but unfortunately it was and is a blemish on their record. Its bugs was a result of mismanagement and Sega constantly changing the requirements of the game so new systems kept getting added before the old ones could get fixed. I'm not really surprised though, it's Sega after all and don't we have a 10 page thread full of people whining over Bayo 2 because Sega dropped the ball on that franchise?

    Obsidian's new South Park RPG is being published by THQ. THQ isn't doing too hot either, but I never experienced any really bad bugs in Saints Row 3 or Darksiders 2. I think South Park will be the same.

    The good thing about video game Kickstarters is developers do not have to worry about meeting the demands of meddling publishers or having to produce a working build every few months to show them and only have to answer to fans. Usually this just means the development stays transparent, with updates and behind the scene looks. I think including any sort of fan service would remain at a minimum and they only really consider the input from the big backers (1k+ reward tiers).

    Anyways I'm not trying to shill the project or anything, just spreading the word around. CD Projeckt RED's Cyberpunk won't be out for another couple years and this lets Western RPG players know there's more beyond the BioWare and Bethesda tripe. I still enjoy their games but Bioware is EA now, and they seem to focus more on action oriented gameplay and writing slash fiction. Bethesda you already know what you're going to get from them, continuously simplifying their games since Morrowind. Fallout 4 is going to be Skyrim with guns.
  • AzureAzure E-Sports is fucking retarded. Joined: Posts: 9,048
    Deus Ex Revolution: < $8.

    Yea or nay?

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  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,010 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Yea.

    Ive been playing Black Mesa. Its pretty freakin' cool. I never played Half Life, only Half Life 2 and the other episodes in The Orange Box.
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  • NandoNando 1337 Joined: Posts: 3,530
    Is this gangland (lol, its not called that) game really free to play?
    They want me to sign up on their site but its under billing :/

    Its F2P via steam

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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,320
    You talking about Crimecraft?
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  • petran79petran79 Here comes an old challenger Joined: Posts: 1,913
    I liked as a teenager the PC platform too. As a kid I was fascinated by the Amiga computers. Some teens I used to visit had 500 and 2000 models and all those games were light years ahead from the NES I used to have. Even better than arcades in some cases. Some genres like Horror, Strategy, Adventure, RPG, Simulation etc were only possible on computers. Consoles were for kiddies and were edited. Consoles and arcades had to be censored. Even today.

    Computers were 10 years ahead of consoles. In fact consoles became more sophisticated because they adopted traits of PC games. Even if only by a fraction.

    Most recent game I played was the Blackwell Chronicles, an adventure game made in old point and click style and graphics. I wasnt an FPS fan and I never played an MMO.I was interested mostly in platformers (NES background), adventures (3rd person and point and click), sports (old school, not the current simulation ones), vertical shooters and fighters. Occasionally I played some RPGs.

    now the gap seems to have been bridged. there are fare less console exclusives that make it worth to buy a system. Plus most of them are overpriced. So I might as well keep the PC.

    In the 90s every platform had its exclusives (Windows PC, Amiga , Sega Genesis and Saturn, Nintendo SNES and 64, Sony Playstation etc) and everyone was happy. There was even a computer gaming scene in Japan till the mid-90s.

    Now Nintendo insist on the same franchises, which began to wear out with Nintendo 64 already, Sony after the success of the PS2 insist on sequels, Sega are no more and wander aimlessly from platform to platform, Microsoft ruined PC gaming by transferring good franchises on consoles, making them inferior both in graphics and gameplay etc, hence the FPS infestation.

    I leave gaming to the younger generation and stick with PC gaming which reserves places for teens and adults since the old days.



    Torrents > Steam.

    You're telling me you guys dropped 100's, maybe 1000's of dollars on a new PC, yet you buy all your games digitally? Why not do the same thing, but not pay for it? Morals? CD-keys required to play online? You're ballin' and don't care?

    =/

    those PC games will be able to run on a PC for many years to come, even on newer machines. You can run old MS-DOS games or even Windows 95 games, though the latter have some issues with Direct3D acceleration. So buying a game now will probably last for a long time, certainly more than when you buy a console and it gets defective in 10 years and the next console is incompatible.

    If support ceases, you have every right to bypass DRM. Even on Steam.

    An example is the old game 7th Guest. You can even get an enhanced sound track for free in the Scummvm site. As emulation and virtualization software gets better and more precise the PC and its various operating systems will be able to host all those games without trouble. Like a museum.
    While consoles will focus mainly on the newer games.


    I think that Steam is a good service, but some of the things they've been doing recently have been pretty shady. A new TOS they put out states that they can literally delete your Steam account for *no fucking reason* and you'll lose all your games+money spent+money in your wallet, and then right below that they say that you cannot sue them for doing so. GGPO.

    Digital games on Steam aren't safe, either. Certain titles have been delisted service permanently and unlike PSN and Live you cannot re-download them(I believe.)

    There are a lot more examples of the things I'm talking about if you want to look, and even more extreme cases where I've seen people purchase a game, not be able to download it, have it not show up on their list, and then after contacting Steam's customer service they basically told the dude to go fuck himself and that he won't be refunded. If any of you guys doubt the things I'm talking about, read the TOS or google these things.

    that worries me too. But in case that happens, thats why we have torrents. But in any case, I hold an unofficial backup copy for Steam games I like. I have all the games in a 3 TB external hard drive and a few of them (Assassin's Creed 2 and Monkey Island HD remakes) refuse to run on a drive larger than 2 TB. No patches available despite my complaints. While Costume Quest and Stacking support solved those issues after I mentioned them. The bigger a company is, the harder it is to communicate with the users. It would be more suitable to have the games installed in separate folders. It can be done but it is inconvenient on Steam. I have to delete the game from the external hard drive or else it thinks I launch the game from there.
    too slow!
  • ZeroZero Ruler of Dimension X Joined: Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    From what I've read, it's basically Steam designed for TVs, complete with pad support. Pretty big deal, especially with the kinds of games Steam has been getting lately.


    I certainly agree with you on the potential here: considering the high number of controller-friendly games on Steam, it essentially turns your PC into a console (and more).

    Personally, I don't see myself using it just because I don't want to lug the PC I play games on to the TV. I also already have a computer connected to my PC that I watch videos and do computer stuff on (although not powerful enough to run most of the games I play).

    But yeah, this is making a serious case for never buying a console again. Although if more companies like EA make their own Steam-like application, we'll have an even more divided market place on PC than in the consoles.
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  • NandoNando 1337 Joined: Posts: 3,530
    You talking about Crimecraft?
    thats the one

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  • OsgXOsgX Joined: Posts: 1,900
    I just got to "blast pit." Man, even if it is just a remake/mod, Black Mesa is probably going to be one of my GOTY...
  • AzureAzure E-Sports is fucking retarded. Joined: Posts: 9,048
    I just got to "blast pit." Man, even if it is just a remake/mod, Black Mesa is probably going to be one of my GOTY...

    Halflife 1 is quite literally the last good shooter to have ever been made, in my opinion (Borderlands doesn't count, because hybrid).

    Black Mesa is money flying out of my pocket.

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  • dake360dake360 Time to roll another one Joined: Posts: 114
    Halflife 1 is quite literally the last good shooter to have ever been made, in my opinion (Borderlands doesn't count, because hybrid).

    Black Mesa is money flying out of my pocket.

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    Yea IF it wasn't free to play
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  • AzureAzure E-Sports is fucking retarded. Joined: Posts: 9,048
    Yea IF it wasn't free to play

    It is free?

    ...

    Suckers!

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  • azprocazproc ^ loves dem Jingle Bells Joined: Posts: 2,782
    Halflife 1 is quite literally the last good shooter to have ever been made, in my opinion (Borderlands doesn't count, because hybrid).

    Unreal Tournament 2004 would like a word with you.
    If you're talking about story... then sure, HL1 was difficult to top.
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  • dake360dake360 Time to roll another one Joined: Posts: 114
    It is free?

    ...

    Suckers!

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    Yeeeep. Barring nostalgia there is no reason to buy/play the original or Valve's source version ever again.
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  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,010 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Word, I wish more remakes would be free like this. The game (Black Mesa) is really freakin' cool. This is another one of those really cool games that I missed out on because I didn't have a PC...well, a PC capable of running games.

    I still haven't checked out that Big Picture shit. I watched a video of someone using it and it does seem pretty cool. I guess its convenient if Im playing something with a controller and don't want to switch back to the mouse and keyboard when I want to navigate Steam or type a message. Can that interface be used at any time? I mean, can I fire up Steam now (using my PC monitor) and use that UI?
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  • dake360dake360 Time to roll another one Joined: Posts: 114
    Yeah you can, just gotta participate in the beta.

    Steam->Settings-> Beta Participation

    Steam restarts then BAM you have access to cool UI.


    I think you can get to the overlay using your controller too.

    EDIT: Re: Black Mesa

    Near errbody I know is playing that shit hard. I got up to "On a Train" the day it was released. Can't play it again till the weekend due to work/school. Will check out gameplay in 4 days :(
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  • NandoNando 1337 Joined: Posts: 3,530
    I couldn't figure out how to play TF with my Onza Controller.

    Mesa looks fun
    I miss games w/ no ADS and Constant sprint

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    Anyone else having problems with Steam?
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  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,010 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    They're updating or something like that....hold on...
    We'll be performing routine maintenance on some of the Steam servers today, Tuesday September 18th, 2012 around 16:00 PDT (23:00 GMT).

    Chat, game lobbies, and the community web site will be affected for the duration of the maintenance. Some content downloads may be briefly interrupted. Game play should generally not be interrupted but may be impacted for some multi-player titles.

    Got that off Facebook.

    ...not enough?

    http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784745&page=34

    Check the last post.
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  • GwynLovesMilkGwynLovesMilk Joined: Posts: 6,096
    Just bought CS:GO today, I've never played a CS game aside from some 1.6 and Source on nosteam servers so this is my first legit experience.

    Almost done downloading, if anyone wants to play add me up!

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  • NandoNando 1337 Joined: Posts: 3,530
    thought black mesa was f2p?
    D:

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  • dake360dake360 Time to roll another one Joined: Posts: 114
    It is dude
    Supporting the people.
  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,010 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Black Mesa is longer than I figured it would be. Damn game is good.

    Anyhow, if any of you are interested in XCOM Enemy Unknown, there is a demo of it up on Steam. Im gonna try that shit out in just a little bit. I had planed on getting this game, I hope I like the demo.
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    This is the immortality of the spirit, the ever-lingering legacy, the fuel of grief.
    but so, too, the fuel of faith
    -Drizzt Do'Urden

    "Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power. Good. Thank you, thank you. If you vote me, I'm hot. What? Taxes, they'll be lower... son. The Democratic vote is the right thing to do Philadelphia, so do."
  • NandoNando 1337 Joined: Posts: 3,530
    XBL went out
    Torchlight 2 taking over my life right now

    there is a thread here on it, just saying.

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    Please port Vanquish to PC.
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    Deus Ex Revolution: < $8.

    Yea or nay?

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    Oh yea.
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    platinum needs to do a shootemup game, you know like rtype type shit...that would be ridiculous. it would at least be a nice change of pace instead of only having cave making good shooters.

    im outi

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  • drizzt360drizzt360 In the shadows I hide-ppd Joined: Posts: 7,010 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I got a beta key for Hawken the other night so I tried that shit out. It seems like it could be pretty cool.
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    This is the immortality of the spirit, the ever-lingering legacy, the fuel of grief.
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  • CSword123CSword123 oh god OHGOD! why did I think this was a good idea? please... just- I'M SORRY!! Joined: Posts: 1,214
    I just learned of this today but Castle Crashers came out on Steam last week. This game is a must-buy, no question. The Behemoth is THE indie developer that set the bar for others with the same limitations, in time, budget, etc. The zany art style of Dan Paladin meshes fantastically with the frantic, over the top action. The soundtrack is memorable and multiplayer is a blast.
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    You can get a free PC game ($20 or lower) off EA's Origin service...................get it while you can.
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,320
    Thanks but no thanks. Not letting the spyware that is Origin taint my PC.
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  • JazzJazz Pagua Sonfa Joined: Posts: 3,087
    does steam region lock stuff? im going to be starting a new account in JP i was just wondering if its the same every where....only things i care about PC wise are CSgo and melty blood tho
    I think some ppl should join the madden community
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,320
    Consoles need to look out. Valve gonna release Steam-enabled PCs you can hook up to your TV
    http://www.siliconera.com/2012/12/08/valve-to-release-steam-enabled-pcs-to-compete-with-next-gen-consoles/
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,320
    edited July 2013
    Since Next Gen isn't looking too god right now (well, Xbone anyway) bumping as I feel this thread will be needed in the future.

    Entire Alan Wake franchise is currently 90% off on Steam through the weekend
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  • BiggzyBiggzy Keep it claussy! Joined: Posts: 2,199
    edited July 2013
    I'm a complete noob when it comes to computer gaming. Can someone give mt he scoop on Steam?

    I just downloaded Steam and got one of the free games "Team Fortress 2". I'm terrible at FPS, but it was fun. I'm mainly interested in strategy games like Age of Empires.

    What's the difference between playing..Age of Empires III for example on Steam? As opposed to going to Gamestop and buying a copy and playing it on like the Microsoft servers or whatever servers?
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