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  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,183
    edited May 29
    not sure about any others at that price point.

    HRAP 4 Kai
    HRAP V Hayabusa (JP)
  • ajyou003ajyou003 Joined: Posts: 124
    If you don't want to fuss with any additional mapping programs I would recommend the Hori RAP 4.

    Price point is good and they are usually in stock on Amazon. I have one myself and really enjoy it.
  • PapaLampPapaLamp Joined: Posts: 5
    edited May 29
    Hmm interesting... looking at either getting the Hori Rap 4 or the Qanba Obsidian. Both look like nice sticks but is either considered higher quality? I can get the Hori stick from Amazon faster since I have prime but they are out of the black at the moment and I can get the Qanba from eightarc with a 10% off with a Combobreaker promo code. So is there anything that makes the Qanba worth a longer ship time and $30 extra? Although the Hori would be a different color than I would prefer.
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  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,183
    Sanwa parts in the Qanba vs Hori Hayabusa parts. Both cases should be good quality. The HRAP industrial design is years old compared to the obsidian.
    Both are a bit of a pain to customize on the art front.
  • DemiiPoetDemiiPoet Joined: Posts: 92
    ajyou003 wrote: »
    If you don't want to fuss with any additional mapping programs I would recommend the Hori RAP 4.

    Price point is good and they are usually in stock on Amazon. I have one myself and really enjoy it.

    Somewhat of a random question, but did you keep the stock (Kuro) buttons in your HRAP 4?
  • ajyou003ajyou003 Joined: Posts: 124
    edited May 31
    @DemiiPoet
    No mods done whatsoever. The version that has the PC toggle (XInput) has the Hayabusa buttons instead of the Kuros as far as I'm aware. I went from a Qanba Q4RAF to the Hori so the buttons feel fine to me.
  • PapaLampPapaLamp Joined: Posts: 5
    So I went out and bought a Hori RAP 4 Kai at my local shop as they had one available and after getting home I see on the back "Functions as PC controller through XInput" Followed by "This Product does nos support "DirectInput or analog input." Did I buy an older model that doesn't support both or is this a mistake on the packaging? Is there any games I can test to know if it works with both? Thanks for the advice and help guys!
  • deadxobbitdeadxobbit Joined: Posts: 51
    edited June 1
    PapaLamp wrote: »
    So I went out and bought a Hori RAP 4 Kai at my local shop as they had one available and after getting home I see on the back "Functions as PC controller through XInput" Followed by "This Product does nos support "DirectInput or analog input." Did I buy an older model that doesn't support both or is this a mistake on the packaging? Is there any games I can test to know if it works with both? Thanks for the advice and help guys!

    You'll be able to use it on PC just fine, don't worry. XInput is a newer API made specifically for Xbox 360 controller, hence it's called XInput. And since PS3,4 controllers use DirectInput, you'll still have DirectInput support too. You'll just have to plug it into your PC in PS3/4 mode.

    Edit: Checked out your previous posts. PC versions of both SFV and GGXrd support XInput and DirectInput. You'll have no problem switching platforms back and forth with HRAP4, just remember to change the slider position.
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  • gamerkim28gamerkim28 drewlynoted Joined: Posts: 296
    I am currently rocking the Mad Catz TE2 and now am looking to get a new stick with a touchpad.

    I was primarily looking for a stick that:
    • is Sony Licensed (don't want to worry about future PS4 updates)
    • has Sawna parts (which I prefer)
    • Last but definitely not least, has a touchpad

    That being said I have been eyeing the Razer Panthera ($200) as it seems to fit all of my qualifications.

    I was also was considering the Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 ($150 + $50 for Sanwa parts), but doing the extra work for the same price makes me not want to.

    I have the following questions:
    • Anyone has experience with the Razer Panthera? Anything I should know about it?
    • How is the general quality of Qanba's sticks? The Obsidian comes out soon and I was curious how Qanba's sticks are like.
    • How is the case for the Hori Real Arcade Pro 4?

    Of course, any other recommendations for sticks that I may have missed would be greatly appreciated!
  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,183
    Obsidian has been available for weeks..
  • wannerwanner Joined: Posts: 21
    jopamo wrote: »
    I lived with a nice looking stick that was torturous to play on for long sessions. The Soulcalibur V/N3-SA stick was an effort in patience and adaptation. Once I swapped over to Vewlix and Sega 2p I never looked back.

    What exactly did you dislike about it? I'm thinking about buying the Hori Tekken 7 Stick which looks to be basically the same.
  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,183
    edited June 4
    wanner wrote: »
    What exactly did you dislike about it? I'm thinking about buying the Hori Tekken 7 Stick which looks to be basically the same.
    jopamo wrote: »
    Take the inside of your right elbow and jam it to your abdomen. Keep it there. Play. Behold, the Sega 1P/ Namco Noir layout.

    If you're a stick it might serve you well. I'm a big boy though...it's just uncomfortable
  • STKSTK In...infinite Imagination! Joined: Posts: 322
    Any one here have bought an import stick? Im want to get my hand on the HRAP.N when i comes out in July.

    http://www.hori.jp/products/p4/p4_rapnH_hs/
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  • TastyWhiffTastyWhiff Joined: Posts: 11
    Does anyone know where i can get a korean stick? Normally i would buy a korean lever but im better off buying a stick since i plan on using the fastest shipping. Im interested in the wooden stick from istmall but its currently out of stock atm so i need other choices.
  • Hustle KongHustle Kong Joined: Posts: 367 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    STK wrote: »
    Any one here have bought an import stick? Im want to get my hand on the HRAP.N when i comes out in July.

    http://www.hori.jp/products/p4/p4_rapnH_hs/

    I have. I've also pre-ordered that exact one on Play-Asia.
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  • unaigalderunaigalder Joined: Posts: 81
    is better X-arcade for 113€ new or Hori Real Arcade pro 110€ ?
    And what of the two have better arcade parts?
  • Hustle KongHustle Kong Joined: Posts: 367 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    unaigalder wrote: »
    is better X-arcade for 113€ new or Hori Real Arcade pro 110€ ?
    And what of the two have better arcade parts?

    Oh god almost 100% guaranteed the Hori will be better. But I don't like the American style arcade parts at all.
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  • unaigalderunaigalder Joined: Posts: 81
    unaigalder wrote: »
    is better X-arcade for 113€ new or Hori Real Arcade pro 110€ ?
    And what of the two have better arcade parts?

    Oh god almost 100% guaranteed the Hori will be better. But I don't like the American style arcade parts at all.

    Not All american parts are bad. IL stick are great but not fit in arcade stick, it this fit Qanba Q1 i have a eurojoystick or Magnetic Stick from IL American Style
  • Hustle KongHustle Kong Joined: Posts: 367 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited June 11
    Eh. I grew up on Happ parts before they supposedly went down in quality, and the best thing to happen to me was for Japanese style arcade parts to start coming over here.

    To each their own, obviously. If you like US style parts it would be a much more difficult decision. It's just an easy one for me. ;)

    What model of Hori Real Arcade Pro, by the way?

    Edit: I've also owned an X-Arcade stick myself. I no longer have it, but have a LOT of HRAPs.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,382
    X-Arcade leaves alot to be desired, including their PCBs
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  • dijidiji Joined: Posts: 2
    Looking to buy my first stick for PC/PS4. I'm in Australia so options are pretty limited and expensive whether it's local or import. I considered getting a Venom/Mayflash and modding it later with Sanwa but for that price I could get a HRAP (2016 model I think, the one without headphone jack).

    So is the HRAP basically my best bet? Also, is the older "box" style of the HRAP Tekken 7 and HRAP.N easier for playing with on the lap than the lower profile of the regular HRAP? Although not sure if I'd get one of the new ones anyway since the older HRAPs seem to be a good $40 cheaper than the 2017 ones.

    Any pointers on choosing a first stick are welcome!
  • Hustle KongHustle Kong Joined: Posts: 367 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I think the Tekken 7 style is nicer for lap playing. but that might also have to do with how much I prefer the layout compared to the Vewlix-style.
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  • dijidiji Joined: Posts: 2
    I think the Tekken 7 style is nicer for lap playing. but that might also have to do with how much I prefer the layout compared to the Vewlix-style.

    Oh, the Tekken 7 one is a Noir layout too, right? I was trying to figure out how I'd place my fingers on that in my lap though. It seems straight forward for on a table but on lap it seems like I'd have to bend my wrist weirdly. Probably wouldn't be any harder than adapting to claw on pad or weird keyboard layouts I use though.
  • Hustle KongHustle Kong Joined: Posts: 367 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Well, I think either way you're going to have to do something goofy with your write in lap play. But the Noir just feels better than Vewlix to me in that setting.

    Maybe I prefer it so much BECAUSE I almost only use my lap?
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  • ShiroZXShiroZX Joined: Posts: 51
    edited June 14
    Hey guys, just like the guy above. I'm gonna buy my first fightstick, my main use would be X360/PC since I think im gonna end up building a gaming pc rather than buying a ps4. Anyways I live in mexico so my options are very limited and expensive. I was thinking of the mayflash f500 since it's cheap and it sort of has compatibility with every console but I'm really gonna give my fightstick a rough use so im gonna end up buying sanwa parts because the stock buttons are not gonna hold up that long.
    I also saw the hori rap tekken 7 x360/xbone special edition, which of course is compatible with pc too, It's more expensive but the buttons and stick are higher quality than mayflash's, plus it has some pretty nice waifus.

    Prices aside, I can save money I guess, what im mainly looking for is a stick I can fully customize, and by that I mean throwing some artwork, sanwa buttons and stick and even better if I can throw in some shit to do light up on press led mod. What is my best choice then
  • PresidentCamachoPresidentCamacho Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho Joined: Posts: 3,452
    ShiroZX wrote: »
    Hey guys, just like the guy above. I'm gonna buy my first fightstick, my main use would be X360/PC since I think im gonna end up building a gaming pc rather than buying a ps4. Anyways I live in mexico so my options are very limited and expensive. I was thinking of the mayflash f500 since it's cheap and it sort of has compatibility with every console but I'm really gonna give my fightstick a rough use so im gonna end up buying sanwa parts because the stock buttons are not gonna hold up that long.
    I also saw the hori rap tekken 7 x360/xbone special edition, which of course is compatible with pc too, It's more expensive but the buttons and stick are higher quality than mayflash's, plus it has some pretty nice waifus.

    Prices aside, I can save money I guess, what im mainly looking for is a stick I can fully customize, and by that I mean throwing some artwork, sanwa buttons and stick and even better if I can throw in some shit to do light up on press led mod. What is my best choice then

    Your easiest/cheapest option since you want 360 support would be to try and find a used 360 stick that already has quality parts- 360 controllers work fine on windows generally. Barring that, you could learn to padhack, this would open up a lot more cheap options to you down the line.
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  • ShiroZXShiroZX Joined: Posts: 51

    Your easiest/cheapest option since you want 360 support would be to try and find a used 360 stick that already has quality parts- 360 controllers work fine on windows generally. Barring that, you could learn to padhack, this would open up a lot more cheap options to you down the line.

    I was thinking about the f500 too, but I saw I need an original x360 controller if I want it to work on the x360. And the hori is just plug and play out of the box on pc and x360, plus it has better hayabusa parts than the f500.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,382
    ShiroZX wrote: »

    Your easiest/cheapest option since you want 360 support would be to try and find a used 360 stick that already has quality parts- 360 controllers work fine on windows generally. Barring that, you could learn to padhack, this would open up a lot more cheap options to you down the line.

    I was thinking about the f500 too, but I saw I need an original x360 controller if I want it to work on the x360. And the hori is just plug and play out of the box on pc and x360, plus it has better hayabusa parts than the f500.

    Original Microsoft Xbox 360 controllers are a pain to pad hack.
    ShiroZX wrote: »
    Hey guys, just like the guy above. I'm gonna buy my first fightstick, my main use would be X360/PC since I think im gonna end up building a gaming pc rather than buying a ps4. Anyways I live in mexico so my options are very limited and expensive. I was thinking of the mayflash f500 since it's cheap and it sort of has compatibility with every console but I'm really gonna give my fightstick a rough use so im gonna end up buying sanwa parts because the stock buttons are not gonna hold up that long.
    I also saw the hori rap tekken 7 x360/xbone special edition, which of course is compatible with pc too, It's more expensive but the buttons and stick are higher quality than mayflash's, plus it has some pretty nice waifus.

    Prices aside, I can save money I guess, what im mainly looking for is a stick I can fully customize, and by that I mean throwing some artwork, sanwa buttons and stick and even better if I can throw in some shit to do light up on press led mod. What is my best choice then

    Your easiest/cheapest option since you want 360 support would be to try and find a used 360 stick that already has quality parts- 360 controllers work fine on windows generally. Barring that, you could learn to padhack, this would open up a lot more cheap options to you down the line.

    Cheapest yes, easiest Not a chance.
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  • ShiroZXShiroZX Joined: Posts: 51
    edited June 15
    I'm already decided for the hori rap hayabusa, just want to know if anyone know if the new hori rap hayabusa tekken 7 edition is limited edition, and if the artwork can be replaced, since it looks like it has plexi but the screws it has look different and I can't see what kind of screws they are. I wouldn't like it to be sold out once I get the money and having ppl sell it at a higher price.

    http://gameidealist.com/wp-content/uploads/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-Hayabusa-Tekken-7-Edition-Fight-Stick-for-Xbox-One-3.jpg
  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,183
    edited June 15
    Yes.
    Yes.
    There is no plexi, the art is printed on a plastic backing adhered to the top metal support plate.
    Hex screws.
    Good luck.
  • Hustle KongHustle Kong Joined: Posts: 367 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Shiro, Hori was displaying this stick at E3: http://www.hori.jp/products/p4/p4_rapnH_hs/ which leads me to believe you should be able to get it here not too far from now. So even if you slept on the Tekken sticks (which are great), the non-game branded version will likely also be an option.
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  • ShiroZXShiroZX Joined: Posts: 51
    Thanks bois, I hope the stick last at least 1 or 2 months so I can get the money by that time.
  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,183
    Shiro, Hori was displaying this stick at E3: http://www.hori.jp/products/p4/p4_rapnH_hs/

    MUCH better looking than the Tekken 7 sticks as well :wink:
  • ShiroZXShiroZX Joined: Posts: 51
    Lmao I really liked the cute waifus on the tekken 7.
    I just saw this hasn't come out yet. Is it gonna be available on amazon, I suppose also at a cheaper prize right?
  • Hustle KongHustle Kong Joined: Posts: 367 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    jopamo wrote: »
    Shiro, Hori was displaying this stick at E3: http://www.hori.jp/products/p4/p4_rapnH_hs/

    MUCH better looking than the Tekken 7 sticks as well :wink:

    Oh, I agree. Non-game art always beats game art.

    And Shiro, both Tekken 7 sticks are out, but they sold out on Amazon FAST. That 2-3 months thing is for a restock. Some GameStop stores also got an allocation.
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  • ShiroZXShiroZX Joined: Posts: 51
    edited June 16
    I meant the rap hayabusa pro N, the one withouth the artwork, I only see pre orders. Hope it comes out on amazon at a cheaper price, tho I only see it for ps3/ps4/pc, y'know, I'll just decide once I get the money lol. Thanks bois

  • Hustle KongHustle Kong Joined: Posts: 367 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Ooooh. Yeah. Sorry, I misunderstood. That's supposed to hit in July. I've put my pre-order in at Play-Asia some time ago because I was too nervous that it wouldn't be released here.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,382
    jopamo wrote: »
    Shiro, Hori was displaying this stick at E3: http://www.hori.jp/products/p4/p4_rapnH_hs/

    MUCH better looking than the Tekken 7 sticks as well :wink:

    Oh, I agree. Non-game art always beats game art.

    I also agree, some times game art on a stick looks like a children lunch box.

    I am more of a fan of abstract classic designs
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  • ShiroZXShiroZX Joined: Posts: 51
    Im gonna end up changing the artwork so yhea, I guess the pro N is better, hopefully cheaper too. I hope templates get made here in srk. Just wanna know if artwork without the plexi lasts, I fear that the sticker by itself get's dirty or starts peeling off due to the time that it has with no protection or something that it covers it
  • jopamojopamo Stuck in Silly-con Valley Joined: Posts: 1,183
    edited June 16
    Those decals are made to last years of abuse
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