KoF XIII General Discussion: Part II

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  • KomatikKomatik Card demon Joined: Posts: 2,659
    Thankfully bottom tier in KOF13 is good enough for most levels of competition. ^^
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Are there any Terry specialists? i haven't seen one do good in competition whereas Ryo, Elizabeth, Leona and Mai had showed up and done well in torunaments that have the romances, reynalds and xians
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Mai Darkness Joined: Posts: 2,740
    Try looking into Mario E and Crimson King - both of them play well with the Hungry Wolf.
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  • blufangblufang Devour! Joined: Posts: 4,486
    Anyone play Vice? Why doesn't anyone seem to play her (I can't find footage)? She seems really interesting if somewhat straightforward in her gameplan.




  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Mai Darkness Joined: Posts: 2,740
    blufang wrote: »
    Anyone play Vice? Why doesn't anyone seem to play her (I can't find footage)? She seems really interesting if somewhat straightforward in her gameplan.
    Look up players like Flander KOF, Gutts or Louffy

    Get a load of these:

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  • KomatikKomatik Card demon Joined: Posts: 2,659
    People seem to play Vice quite a bit on Cafeid. When the crazy bastards aren't playing Duo Lon as anchor, that is.
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    So how is the netcode for the steam version?
    It's nice to meet you, too.
  • KomatikKomatik Card demon Joined: Posts: 2,659
    Good. It's not well-implemented rollback good, but it's very playable. Still, as always, play on wired internet and watch the connections.
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  • blufangblufang Devour! Joined: Posts: 4,486
    Thx guys. I'll look those up, and also go over the dreamcancel wiki which seems excellent. I was kind of disappointed with JuiceBox's tutorial for her though. Every other character gets a 100 minute detailed tutorial, and she gets a 25 minute one.




  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    WTF Infiltration will participate in the Global Id Tournament this weekend what is he thinking?

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    1.Cafeid Kensouzzang(Korea) (C)
    2.infiltration(Korea) (C)
    3.Taki Jinpachi(Japan) (C)
    4.SL Burnout(Australia) (C)
    5.Sange_tencho(Japan)
    6.Koukou(Japan)
    7.Okome(Japan)
    8.Keykakko(Japan)
    9.Hitoshi(Japan)
    10.MOA(Japan)
    11.2K(Japan)
    12.Kazunoko(Japan)(C)
    13.oogosyo(japan)
    14.Hiroto_Yowai(japan)
    15.rinomoto(Japan)
    16.Banbaban(japan)
    17.Inocchi(japan)
    18.Arubi(Taiwan)
    19.ET(Taiwan)
    20.sethuthut(Taiwan)
    21.Rockpon(Taiwan)
    22.Ren(Taiwan)
    23.Tim(Taiwan)(C)
    24.Cafeid Madkof(Korea) (C)
    25.Cafeid verna(Korea) (C)
    26.Cafeid Lacid(Korea) (C)
    27.Cafeid Gutts(Korea) (C)
    28.Cafeid Id 1st man(Korea) (C)
    29.MOJO82(China)(C)
    30.CafeId MillionZ(C)
    31.andily(China)(C)
    32.QANBA|DA KOU(china)
    33.QANBA|XIAOHAI(china)
    34.BE.kane blueriver(chile)
    35.Cafeid Id Ssong(korea)
    36.MOV(japan)(c)

    still he was decent in this match though
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
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  • Body_GaBody_Ga Joined: Posts: 8
    really interesting and helpful, thanks!

  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
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    My opinion on the recent tournaments of KOF and the scene

    SCR: it's solid, the story of khanibalito rising from the loser's bracket to eventually reset and beat reynald in the finals was an echo of sorts of reynald's victory on Evo last year.. for 2 straight years it was Khanibalito whom eliminated Reynald, he's one of the consistent demons reynald has had

    IGT: Tokido has really stepped up his game, at Evo 2012 he nearly made it to Top 8 (I beleieve) but Reynald beat him, last year he nearly made top 3 but was defeated again by Reynald (more on that rivalry later) but his strong performance was a thing of beauty, he was i believe on the losing end against ET until he downloaded him and murdered him..

    on a side note it was heartbreaking for Khanibalito to go down the way he did when Dakou (a street fighter 4 cammy player) put him down, especially after his convincing victory against reynald.

    that first to ten Japan vs Korea was a show stealer as well, and it's awesome to see Tokido against Madkof as the Anchors and in the end Tokido stood triumphant (one Evo champion conquered)

    NCR: was basically a Reynald Massacre show, there were no real killers up to his level, no Khanis, cha's and romances (last year's NCR was more stacked with reynald, luis cha, romance and xian) but it was nice to see reynald playing against his brother 4leaf and kaneblueriver's raiden kinda caught my eye

    Northwest Majors: IMO a better torunament than both NCR and SCR, as it was spearheaded by an Awesome Champion vs Champion match as Reynald Fought evo-psueo rival Tokido in an amazing FT10 match which saw Reyanld taking it 10-6, with 6 being a strong showing for Tokido but that's just the icing on the cake (and the fact that both James Chen and Ultradavid ignored this on their Ultrachen series instead of alloting even just a single sentence to acknowledge this irks me greatly)

    this was a tournament that had both Romance and Reynald in it after a long time (they almost always met at the top of the majors leading up to evo last year) but they never met, I saw Kaneblueriver a bit better as he even OCV'ed romance in one instance, loved Joel A's Daimmon and it was refreshing to see claw iori be in the spotlight again, but in all honestly i was eagerly awaiting a Reynald vs Tokido rematch, and they met in winner;s finals and grand finals with Tokido this time making a surprise turnaround by beating reynald both times and taking the tournament.. This rematch did indeed tell a story and a match that's IMO more entertaining than the latter AE 2012 finals between Tokido's Akuma and Kbrad's Cammy, don't get me wrong that was a great match as well, but knowing the FT10 reynald had with Tokido the stakes for their Finals was IMO more encompassing than Tokido's with Kbrad (with again Ultrachen treating as though Tokido only won one tourney)

    so scoreboard

    Reynald (FT10)10 + (WF)1 + (GF)2 = 13
    Tokido (FT10)6 + (WF)3 + (GF)3 = 12

    Reynald still has the numbers adavantage :p (but that's just the purist in me)

    other torunaments like Texas showdown (where kof is a side) final round, and UFGT were watcheable but nowhere as good as those i've listed (well maybe except for the rlatively unhype NCR) since it's basically Romance plowing through the competition.

    it is good to see some peeps make a name for themselves in KOF like DJ Houshan, Chris G, Flocker, Kaneblueriver and Mario E (loved his terry at UFGT) although they are all Primarily Mahvel Mains

    for Evo as of the moment I would predict Reynald, Romance AND Tokido making it to top 8, i would have liked to add Madkof but he grew weaker in my eyes (though still a stone cold killer) Fox defeated him in IGT and Frionel had a better showing against him when a few months back he was basically snuffed by Bala.

    Xian no longer plays so i leave him out


    There's MadKOF and the cafe ID guys

    The Latin American Faction, Khanibalito, Luis Cha, Kula, Koopa

    There's the Xiaohai, Dakou's and Ren's of the east

    There's Fox and Frionel from europe

    There's theCCG/Air's, Raynex, neorussell and Karn of Canada

    of course there;s the Marvelites Kaneblueriver, DJ Houshan etc.

    I could only hope for Bala and Woo
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
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    Just wondering, but what do most people consider the "main" KOFXIII forum? Could someone link me?
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  • KomatikKomatik Card demon Joined: Posts: 2,659
    It's probably Dream Cancel. All the KOF forums are a tad quiet, though, it's a game people just play and talk about in steam chat or IRC or something mostly. But new people to bring liveliness to the forums is great, so hop on board <3
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  • Mr. WarzardMr. Warzard CvS2 Commissioner Gordon Joined: Posts: 779
    Thanks for the recap Rugal 3:16, that was pretty informative.
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  • LazieFreddyLazieFreddy Tier Whore Joined: Posts: 303
    [quote="Rugal 3:16;8878097"

    on a side note it was heartbreaking for Khanibalito to go down the way he did when Dakou (a street fighter 4 cammy player) put him down, especially after his convincing victory against reynald.

    [/quote]


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  • NocturnalNocturnal SNK Supporter Joined: Posts: 2,977 mod
    Back from the dead :O. I'm going to call it now. Tokido is going to win EVO. Thoughts?
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    ^^ Yes i have, Tokido has a BIG chance of being in Top 5-1, BUT the thing is with him on the rise other KOF contingents (Mexico, Korea, Socal) will now put a bullseye on the murder face, he has beaten the Evo champ after winning a killer-stacked KOF tourney in IGT (where AFAIK only the latin american faction was not present save for khani)

    He has to prove himself against the Mexican contingent, Yes he's beaten Romance, but i'd like to see him do FT10's agains the other killers like Luis Cha, Kula and *gasp* Bala in which even if he lost a set to see if he would download them like he did Reynald during NWM

    plus there may be some KOF loyals who are not fond of the idea that a street fighter player will be doing very good in KOF (although that does not bother me) since such a feat would be downplayed. though i do see Tokido at least takes KOF ALMOST as seriously as he takes Akuma in SF4 and that's a good sign


    heck Tokido may not even agree with this but next to SF4 i do see KOF 13 being his secondary main as he does better here than in Mahvel (but hey that's my take on it, KOF could be his last for all i know and he may even prefer Injustice or Killer innstinct over it even if he doesn't play them)

    then there's Reynald, he has two demons to exorcise now (Khanibalito and Tokido) so if he really is dedicated, he'll study matches and find away against him, i'm always rooting for mr Reynald despite his tendency to choke at times.. yes even moreso than Bala.

    but for the record, IF Tokido does win Evo I WOULD PREFER if he won BOTH SF4 AND KOF since i'd like to see the capcom community try to DOWNPLAY him being a KOF champ and give fire to the SNK community.

    The thought of him being invited to KOF events and Capcom-based sites like SRK trying to feature that "SSF4 Champion Tokido attends ____Kof Event"
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • KomatikKomatik Card demon Joined: Posts: 2,659
    KOF13 is Tokido's second game, from what I hear, and he likes it a lot. Plus, Tokido, Street Fighter player? More like Tokido, the everything player.
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    One thing i noticed is that Tokido's a Tokido whore though, he used to main claw iori and hwa jai, but ended up embracing the top tiers eventually (the 3 kings of the game, Flame Iori, Karate and Kim) it's basically like if AE 2012 was a Team game he is using Akuma, Cammy, and fei Long in a team.

    I rewatched the FT10 against Reynald, great replay value IMOI, the pendulum was basically dependent on who would win in their point Duo lon vs Point Flame Iori, whomever wins basically either dominated the remaining characters if not straight up OCV'ed them. Still in that regard I noticed that Karate for all his Akuma-like killer prowess (minus the vortex) almost can't do jack s**** to a duo lon who knows what he's doing. I was surprised Reynald didn't use EX Kyo but that's probably because Tokido is so used to SF4 Champ Xian's EX Kyo sooo much that it would probably be a free character.

    I'm rewatching tournament matches and FT10's (Bala still hones his craft through First to whatevers) as well as players. Be back with more notes later.

    again Tokido vs Reynald FT10 at Northwest Majors 2014 is a must see IMO.
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • Mr. WarzardMr. Warzard CvS2 Commissioner Gordon Joined: Posts: 779
    Nocturnal wrote: »
    Back from the dead :O. I'm going to call it now. Tokido is going to win EVO. Thoughts?

    I think he's got to be the favorite going into EVO. Best combination of skill and tournament nerves currently.

    I think some of the other Japanese players are better than him (M', KouKou, Woo), but have yet to show they can handle the pressure of US-style tournaments.
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Kokou was the one Tokido beat in Loser's Finals in IGT, according to the commentators (Zee?? and aneblueriver) Kokou was sort of like Tokido's "Sensei" in KOF, but you're right winning a set is one thing, constantly winning First to Something sets are another.

    And as Good as Tokido is he sticks to Kim, Karate and Flame Iori, he does have Chin, and Vice as pockets but when it's winner takes all of course he would bring the big guns.

    Other Japanese Players like Wooo (Which IMO is the best Japanese KOF player) rarely has any streamed videos, outside of his matches at Evo, the only Woo match i could find was his Random select set against Mr. KOF, but it;s probably a good idea to be in the dark, some "anti-download technology" right there while they (who don't get streamed often) has the luxury of watching these tournaments like Japonawa and such :D
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • NocturnalNocturnal SNK Supporter Joined: Posts: 2,977 mod
    Tokido has always been an all around great player in any game he plays. Also from what I've seen so far from him this year he has really stepped up his game. Anything is possible at EVO but I feel right now he's the most prepared player as we get closer to EVO. I know a lot of the Japanese aren't making it out this year and Bala still can't come to the states. Not sure what the status of Cafe ID is if they plan on coming down again. It should be an interesting tournament overall.
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Tokido is seemingly the most prepared and odds on favourite, no doubt Reynald and Romance will be gunning for him, we still have Southeast Asia Majors to look forward to as the last stop to the road to evo, If Reynald wins it then his stock would rise even further, but for SEAM he has to get past both Yang Yao Ren and Xian (and maybe Xiaohai and Dakou) I know we hardly see xian play kof anymore at all but we never know, as Xian remains one of the asian KOFers who can go toe to toe with Tokido in both SF and KOF, last year Xian spent a lot of time in the states hence we see him often in the KOF Majors (even beating Romance in last year's Texas Showdown I think to win the tournament) this year he's mostly in asia but again he could just be avoiding download, and since he's like SF's Champion and understandably more visible in that game, it can be the perfect cover.

    The Cafe ID people as a whole is unsure but MadKOF will be there, sucks that Bala still can;t come he's probably the biggest Latin American KOF draw, without him we have Romance, but i wish Khanibalito and Luis Cha can make it.
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • NocturnalNocturnal SNK Supporter Joined: Posts: 2,977 mod
    I'm pretty certain that Khanibalito and Luis Cha will be coming to EVO. Also not sure if Reynald is coming as of yet. I do hope that Xian still has interest in KOFXIII but with USF4 out now it might be hard.
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    An Evo without reynald would be wierd, but if we were to have an evo without him and no Bala we would be left with

    Romance
    Tokido
    (almost for sure)

    Xiaohai
    Dakou
    (since they'll be there for SF as well)

    Yang Yao Ren
    MadKOF
    Luis Cha
    Khani

    I hope woo would be there (I always feel like chanting Ric Flair's Woooooooo whenever i hear his name)

    but Basically I'm counting the most on either Romance or Tokido

    though Romance hasn't been as dominant in the majors this year as he had been last years, No offence to the Great Marvel Players like Kaneblueriver, DJ Houshen, Flocker, Mario E, Flocker, James Jr., RyRy, Chris G (Basically the ones who wind up in the majors without the KOF Killers) tremendous and superb KOF players in their own right (far better than me as i would get bodied by them in a flash), but i hope this year's evo won't just be featuring them UNLESS they really have stepped up their game and had gone through one of the KOF Killers (I know Mario E and Kaneblueriver did well against Romance recently), The last thing i want for KOF 13's final year as one of the main lineups at Evo is for it to look like the typical Texas Showdowns or Final Rounds where there's barely any Audience. Plus i don't want this to be just a Romance stomp (or Reynald Stomp in case he'll be there)

    Though i'm irked that KOF would probably be getting the crapper hour as the opening game one more time with hardly any audience to watch (Based on evidence last year KOF definetely should have gotten at least Injustice's time spot)

    But without Reynald my Money really is on Tokido.. unless he meets up with Luis or Khani somewhere.
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • Mr. WarzardMr. Warzard CvS2 Commissioner Gordon Joined: Posts: 779
    You think this is the last year for KOF in the main lineup? Especially since there aren't any big releases scheduled in the next year or so, I'd be surprised if that's the case.
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  • Kane BlueriverKane Blueriver l33t Black Mage Joined: Posts: 1,429
    I just want to say that I feel Misterio is a lock in for T8.
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Hi Kaneblueriver nice to see you here.

    MR. Warzard, i do not want of course for this to be the final year for KOF 13, but SNK Playmore or Atlus is no longer giving a $#1t, Capcom although having the strong foothold in the US FGC has masterful marketing and is more fan friendly..

    It's just disheartening when Top USPlayers like PR Rog, J Wong, Ortiz, Valle just scoff at KOFand are more interested in the Injustice's and Killer Instincts out there. On the flip side though it's funny how international Killers(except daigo) like Dakou Xiaohai, Tokido, Xian have maybe SF and Marvel as the top two, and then they go straight to KOF with little to no care for the said injustices and Killer instincts.
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • Mr. WarzardMr. Warzard CvS2 Commissioner Gordon Joined: Posts: 779
    The top players in the US are money and glory hounds, who cares what they play. The bigger problem I see is that the local scenes for KOF are on life support in many areas it seems. There's nothing in norcal, and in socal KOF got dropped from TRB. I haven't heard much about the local scenes in the Pac North or East Coast, so I can't say what's going on there. Here's hoping that a solid Evo turnout (and the lack of new games) gets KOF into Evo 2015.

    Another difference between US and international top players is that US has become a console market, while Asia still has arcades, where KOF seems to be doing ok. That's why you see games like Injustice and KI doing better over here.
    Holding a shovel over SF4's grave.
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited June 2014
    from what i hear KOF is still in the runback (as upcoming tournaments are still listed in dreamcancel) but just not streamed.

    on a non-serious note
    If we i could get play a 3 minute guitar intermission at Evo where i as a guitarist would get the mic, and say
    "This is for all the street fighter, marvel, injustice, and Killer instinct community" and then play this Familiar electric guitar Riff



    I'd imagine the chorus of BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS and obscene profanities

    heck it would be worth getting thrown garbage on literally, heck it would even be worth being beaten to a pulp (just not murdered) to Troll their a$$es

    Sorry i just had to say that.. now i'm rewatching UFGT and ill post a review here soon.
    Post edited by Rugal 3:16 on
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • Kane BlueriverKane Blueriver l33t Black Mage Joined: Posts: 1,429
    My favorite version is the KOF:MIRA remix, but hey! Don't mind me, I'm just a scrub at KOF. I want to be good, but I don't have the talent or the years of experience. I only get away with murder because most people have no clue of what to do against Raiden. Hopefully my chilean friends that are actual KOF players will show some of their strength at CEO as a preview. Misterio, Zeroblack and Isauro should be showing up for the tournament, then will go to LA for the pre-Evo tournament in Tijuana.
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited June 2014
    @Kane whether or not people know how to deal with Raiden doesn't dispute the fact that he's stronger than a lot of people are letting on I kind of think of him as Yun from AE to AE 2012, and i don't particularly agree with Hellpockets commentary in NCR when you were fighting against (forgot his name sorry) about Raiden being lower tier.

    BTW Kaneblueriver you won kof at ECT i wonder why you didn't join UFGT? i know Mario E vs Romance as finals is awesome but it would have been nice to see your name in there instead of Chris G (who really doesn't play the game)

    PS: now im curious about Misterio (sorry for now i picture a player wearing a Rey Mysterio mask whenever playing) gotta look for soem streams, Tokido if he's a student of the game should prioritize downloading him too.
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • Kane BlueriverKane Blueriver l33t Black Mage Joined: Posts: 1,429
    edited June 2014
    I did play at UFGT, but since I'm a fraud, I did terrible, I lost in pools to Chris G and Diaphone. I want to say I was too worried and focused on taking down MVCX, but I know I just played badly. And Raiden IS pretty bad. At high level, the players well-versed in knowledge can just shut the character down with a certain pattern and positioning. I've had that happen to me playing against both Frionel and Reynald.
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I'm not sucking up but you're no fraud you won a KOF tournament (ECT), it's viable strat in some way to take advantage of people's unfamiliarity with your char. who knows new tech might be on the verge of being discovered, I do know that MadKOF also played Raiden at pools at Evo of last year and bodied pretty well with him.

    After watching some Bala First to something matches, i am now kinda sad that he won't make evo again this year, IMO Bala is the Daigo Umehara of KOF.
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • Kane BlueriverKane Blueriver l33t Black Mage Joined: Posts: 1,429
    I don't think Bala is at that level. I do think he is very good, but not untouchable. Also Madkof is one of the top players, and they do a lot of random, just like Woo, they can pick random and pretty much clean up their pools. His Raiden is ass, knowledge-wise, but he is such a good player that it doesn't even matter, he just outplays people all the time. It doesn't matter how suboptimal are your combos and stuff if you're not ever getting touched anyways.
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    You're right but i guess the various vids that i see him grinding it out feverishly player after player, at least to me looks like he's the one closest to that level. i have never seen a bala set where he loses the first to whatevers.

    MadKOF is indeed good, that set against Xiaohai where he basically bodies him match after match with random characters was too good, as Woo did to Mr, KOF before but i guess he was bumped down a peg for me when i see him lose more often than bala does

    loses to khanibalito in a Mexico vs Korea set
    he loses to Fox in IGT
    loses to tokido in a Japan vs Korea set
    his showing against Frionel IMO was not as dominant as Bala's performance over frionel was

    at best at least based on what i see on the streams

    Bala = Daigo
    MadKOF = Infiltration

    and well Tokido = Tokido

    but hey Kane you may have fought against all of them to know which is better from an actual competitors perspective

    and i'll take a competitor's perspective over a spectators (like mine) any day, i'm just vastly interested in the KOF tournament scene nowadays more than ever.

    I just finished watching South East Asia Majors KOF XIII Pools..

    Truly it is a Xian and Tokido steamroll, although there was a Daimon and clark player that almost knocked xian and had him on the ropes. it's funny how they're just scouting each other when it's the other guys turn to play. Although Xian's still surprisingly very good, may have had some ring rust here and there (expected because he really has been focused on Ultra with the academy and all) but still in top form although he is forced to use his main team from the ground up and his wins are a bit more sloppy, unlike tokido whom i hardly saw on the ropes and is able to mix it up with his characters maybe as a way to hide tech from Xian.

    Yang Yao Ren is nowhere in sight so i guess Tokido and Xian may basically Reynald and Romance the entire thing.
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • Kane BlueriverKane Blueriver l33t Black Mage Joined: Posts: 1,429
    Do you have links to the brackets? Maybe we can see more over there. But definitely, Madkof is not the superthreat anymore that people used to put him to be. He got stuck while others have kept improving.
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    It's just on the SRK Homepage, Day 2 results are in, and True enough it's the Xian and Tokido show, and at that point my money's on Tokido (still hoping it's a good match though)
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Damn didn't get to watch SEAM finals but i read the results it was indeed a two man show, and xian even got DQed by showing up late which was a bummer.. but he was able to reset the bracket only to go down to a Tokido who is using a Pocket Chin??

    anyway gonna wait til the vid is available on youtube but in the meantime i will be watching Hyper Battle

    does anyone know who Juan is? he's a relative unknown to me yet he beat "The" Khanibalito.
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited July 2014
    At Evo if there's anyone else that Tokido should be worried about indeed it's Misterio.. he basically massacred Reynald scoring a dominating 15-7 against the Evo champ, although tournament nerves got the best of him and he was eliminated by reynald at CEO, by this time post CEO it was download complete..



    BTW he bested Luis Cha too



    Booyaka Booyaka 619!!!!

    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Mai Darkness Joined: Posts: 2,740
    Hello guys! We can take a look at the KOFXIII character hit boxes from here!
    http://dreamcancel.com/2014/07/01/check-out-these-hit-boxes-in-kof-xiii/
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    BBCF: Hakumen[Azaerl, Nine, Izayoi]
    SFV : ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!

  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    ^^ I'm sorry for this dumb question, but are the Redboxes the hitbox or the hurt box? (there's no Legend)
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • KomatikKomatik Card demon Joined: Posts: 2,659
    light blue = collision box
    dark blue = hurtbox
    red = hitbox
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited July 2014
    i know only of a hitbox and a hurt box, i don't know what a collision box purpose is..
    Post edited by Rugal 3:16 on
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • KomatikKomatik Card demon Joined: Posts: 2,659
    collision boxes are what makes the characters be "there". The game won't allow two collision boxes to overlap, which prevents people from going through each other. Stuff like teleports remove the character's collision box.
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  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    a brief review of KOF 13 evo a repost actually from other threads

    This year's wsn't as good but it didn't suck either, it was just disheartening to see Tokido go down like that after he really invested in the game..


    Now I'm sure Tokido will drop the game like a bad habit



    and i've seen the comments from youtube and neogaf and such and it was all complaints about Karate, Iori, and Kim, but they ignore that we saw a clark, a daimon, a saiki, and a chin at the finals.


    granted from a spectator standpoint the grand finals weren't hype but for a specific analytical view (like the ones required to analyze say a Fei Long vs Fai Long match) it was rather technical, and seeing Tokido and Xiaohai download each other was in a way on it's own more satisfying than Reynald just plow through Hee San Woo last year, of course reyna;d's is better because of the entire story that was told in that top 8, and had Tokido won it would have been the same story.

    Those complaining about No Bala, Reynald, and Romance are a bit off, this tournament is just as filled with Killers..

    ET and Madkof (which is a previous evo champ) can body peeps like Luis Cha and Khanibalito which are on the same footing as Reynald, Kusanagi can go toe to toe with Bala on grueling and Tiresome FT20's and guess what he didn't even make it, Tokido knocked him off, Mr. KOF at any given time can be as good as Reynald (since they're sparring partners anyway) and Tokido also took him out.


    Still i wish for a Tokido vs Misterio FT10 :(


    But sadly according to a lot of people KOF had the worst Top 8 of this year's evo, and call in conspiracy but i guess the stage and odds were really stacked against KOF's favor, no sunday spot crappy commentators and a crowd of crickets from start to finish.
    Kurt Buseik: I am a Marvelite at heart, and I like Thor. So it did pain me to see Thor go down. However, in the depths of my heart, I knew this was the way it should turn out. Not because Superman is THE icon, but because even a post-Crisis Superman would win. Many will bring up Thor's ability to create vortexes and all of the other neat tricks Mjolnir can do, but Thor's history is to head in fist and hammer first, and unless he is on the ropes, Thor rarely utilizes his other abilities. I did find Superman's recognition of Thor as maybe his single greatest opponent an appeasement in light of Superman having died at the hands of Doomsday.

    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • HaradeasHaradeas Joined: Posts: 13
    Yeah that commentator was beyond horrible.... I love kof13 but I wanted to zap to something else sometimes thx to him - _ -
  • NoKushWaveNoKushWave Ehh Joined: Posts: 97
    anyone know any good ralf players?
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