Ah, if your source in saying that he smiled before he died is canon, then it is now known that he smiled after and before he died
Actually, sentence for setence, this is what transpired in the last paragraph under Gouki of the SFZ mook ;
"The last person standing on the vast field, was Gouki.
Goutetsu had already drawn his last breath....but on his face was a smile. Beside him, stood the figure of Gouken."
Of course, logically, one cannot smile AFTER one dies, so you would be right, but we know that his face was still smiling after that. So yeah, he died smiling. And yes, he was smiling because he had an heir in Gouki.
Look under SFZ Mook page 80. Last paragraph.
Oh, i had the idea that any changes in SFZ2 affects SFZ, because SFZ2 replaces SFZ. Which means that Gouki only fought Goutetsu once and killed him.
We have the same sources I'm sure, but the account in the SFZ mook doesn't talk of Goutetsu's death anymore, if it ever did at some point. Goutetsu's current death account is in the SFZ2 mook among other places, where it tells of him falling to the SGS and no smile recorded.
ok, but I do know that Sagat is still alive. Apparentlu M. Bison (Vega) is dead, but Capcom can always say that Vega was near death at the hands of Gouki
So...if all we had was one game, SFII from the 90s, no SFA...no Akuma...who would've won? lol...bad question in the middle of nowhere. I'm guessing, with that game alone, that would be insufficent?
Dark Delita wrote:
Hasn't it been already stated Akuma/Gouki was not entered in the SFII tournament? His killing of Bison is moot, as he wasn't entered in the tournament.
Golden Dragon wrote:
Personally, I think either Ryu, Chun-Li, or Guile earned the right to face M. Bison in the final match. It's hard to say whether or not an actual fight with M. Bison took place 'CuZ AAC isn't Very specific concerning what point during the match Gouki showed up and killed M. Bison.
Correct, Sagat still waits for his match with Ryu.
Capcom could bring back Vega of course, but they'd be pulling a complete 360 if they do. Before Zero 3 came out, Vega was stated to have survived SF2 and recuperating during SF3. After Zero 3 appeared, he was declared as offed for good.
According to Canon Guile was the only fighter to make it to the finals against Bison. Before the match started Akuma came in...
So there is no official SF2 winner. SF1 winner was Ryu by beating Sagat with his Evil incarnation (Dark Hadou)...I still don't see why Ryu is viewed as a main character in SF like Liu Kanf from MK...Guile was the main "hero" until the Akuma thing. Also, I don't know who won SF3, maybe Alex or someone like that. Would be cool if Gill came back along with Bison(dictator) and Sagat.
Vega(Bison) or whatever you wanna call him made his return in the CVS series. I know CVS is not canon but why would Capcom make him better in CVS and more like his SF2 days as opposed to the Alpha series. I think Capcom thought about bringing him back.
Yes, Elena, a high school girl, was able to give birth to Sean, a high school boy. It all makes sense, now.
I think Vega (M. Bison) is originally from Columbia in the SF storyline. Columbia has most of the big crime/drug cartels, etc. Vega is a spanish name. So if they ever have SF4 and bring back Vega (M. Bison) you will probably be fighting him at his stage in Columbia.
Interesting theory. His name however comes from Arabic origins rather than Spanish.
Vega - Arabic - The falling star.
How about Goutetsu as a boss character in SF4? They also could say that Goutetsu did not die...Just look at Tekken 5 with Jinpachi. how old is Jinpachi? 100+???
If this movie is canon
then Gouki (Akuma) is Ryu's father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jion_Wansu, post: 954066 wrote:
What happened to this thread?
Debaser, post: 954068 wrote:
That blasphemy called a movie is not considered canon. It was made by CoA so it isn't officially canon. Goutetsu was killed by Gouki in the same fashion as Gouken. So nyah.
vasili10, post: 954069 wrote:
We also don't know how Gouken died.
Debaser, post: 954070 wrote:
Is this in the movie or in actual canon? I don't think it's a question of whether the anime was canon or not. I'm pretty sure it isn't.
Ryuujinha, post: 954072 wrote:
It is most likely Gouken died of a Messatsu Gou Hadou Ken. I only say this because Gouken could null the Shun Goku Satsu. (I think Tiamat or someone explained the whole business with the "Void" and Shun Goku Satsu) So, question: Since Capcom has yet to every bring out another SF game (which most likely probably won't happen) will this thread go dead? I mean there is so many holes in the canon to be filled like the Gouken-thing (how'd he die, is he really dead, where the freak is his body) or whether or not Ryu will actually be under Oro's tutelage, etc etc?
TiamatRoar, post: 954077 wrote:
I'm not too surprised. Three of those four guys you just mentioned are ANSATSUKEN PRACTICIONERS. I'd like to think Capcom isn't in a rush to create/have even MORE of those.
TiamatRoar, post: 954079 wrote:
"Ansatsuken Practitioners" takes too long to type. :P I guess I could call them "Ansatsukens", but that sounds wierd and technically would include Gen as well despite him being completely different in terms of... well, everything.
So I'll just continue to use the term that everyone knows what it means, even if its technically wrong at the most specific levels.
Red-Impact, post: 954082 wrote:
are chul li and ryu going to make babies anytime soon?
vasili10, post: 954083 wrote:
Why would they?
Red-Impact, post: 954084 wrote:
main characters? azn?
vasili10, post: 954085 wrote:
Not likely. Neither has feelings for the other; they just see each other as formidable fighters. Since 3S, the only time confirmed that they saw each other was 8-10 years ago.