Clocks, how do they w0rk? Strider Hiryu Discussion thread.

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  • CiscoCisco better than you Joined: Posts: 3,383 GOAT
    For those who haven't seen it yet; check it out.



    It's great that they put MVC back to where it was and show the StriderXSpidey rivalry.
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    It's great that they put MVC back to where it was and show the StriderXSpidey rivalry.

    Wow, I thought I was the only one who remembered Strider was paired off against Spiderman during the MVC2 re-release. That old trailer was sick. My two favourites from each company going at it.
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  • CiscoCisco better than you Joined: Posts: 3,383 GOAT
    I love how you guys finally got your Strider place to be, enjoy!
    Thank you Diek for letting it happen!
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  • NickRocksNickRocks Knock Knock Joined: Posts: 22,918
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    It's great that they put MVC back to where it was and show the StriderXSpidey rivalry.
    im interested in seeing more of that style of trailer

    as for striderxspidey i always thought it shouldve been striderxwolverine and ryu/spidey but thats just me XD
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  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,239
    Wow, I thought I was the only one who remembered Strider was paired off against Spiderman during the MVC2 re-release. That old trailer was sick. My two favourites from each company going at it.
    Spider-man and Strider were paired against each other since before that lol

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    HOLY FUCKING SHIT! That is awesome! If I knew about that as a kid I would've fucking loved that.
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  • CiscoCisco better than you Joined: Posts: 3,383 GOAT
    @Nick, i assume there will be more to that trailer, since Vanilla's episode 1 trailer was pretty short at the beginning. The detailing and graphics of this new (what i call episode 5) is just fuckin spot on, and the best part is that Strider is in it as a MAIN.

    I think the pairing is right, WolvieXRyu, DanteXGhost Rider, SpideyXStrider, i would have prefered PhoenixXAkuma but Wesker was just bad ass in that trailer so it's a good save. Hopefully the extended version of that has MagsXVirgil, AkumaXDorammu and stuff like that....
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  • X_SwordX_Sword -+FGs, Art, and Beats+- Joined: Posts: 1,803
    I hope they incorporate the double jump feature to Strider the last build. I was/still DJ combo faithful with S.Hiryu. This could be great for him to gain some meter
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  • Jon SlaytonJon Slayton Consistently Inconsistent Joined: Posts: 4,306
    Lets be honest... Ouroboros looks like ass now. If it's going to be level 3 then atleast let it chip and have the orbs hit. All these nerfs are the marks of a toned down level 1 ouroboros... I really don't know what they were thinking making it level 3.

    The trailer was hilarious, they even put in a clip of it frantically getting push blocked.
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  • KefKef Joined: Posts: 3,170
    Oh wow Ouroboros shots do 0 chip? wat?

    I didn't even notice.

    3 bars
    No meter gain
    No chip
    Satellites don't hit

    Lol wow

    And also it has more start-up after the super startup animation and with no invisibility frames apparently. Also, the new pushblock just kills the lock-down without an assist.
    Hopefully the Ouroboros itself or with XF are powerful enough to compensate.

    Many Strider teams are gonna have to create combos based on meter more than damage now. Thankfully Zero builds lots of meter :)
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    do you assume that he needs a move that can get him in? What happened to Vajra?
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  • NickRocksNickRocks Knock Knock Joined: Posts: 22,918
    MagsXVirgil,

    i actually think vergilxdormammu would be better

    and i guess its not magnetoxwesker anymore? :(
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    @Nick, i assume there will be more to that trailer, since Vanilla's episode 1 trailer was pretty short at the beginning. The detailing and graphics of this new (what i call episode 5) is just fuckin spot on, and the best part is that Strider is in it as a MAIN.

    I think the pairing is right, WolvieXRyu, DanteXGhost Rider, SpideyXStrider, i would have prefered PhoenixXAkuma but Wesker was just bad ass in that trailer so it's a good save. Hopefully the extended version of that has MagsXVirgil, AkumaXDorammu and stuff like that....
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  • CiscoCisco better than you Joined: Posts: 3,383 GOAT
    Somebody needs to talk to Seth about this issue. Somebody PM clock to forward it or something.
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  • Robo-mitsuRobo-mitsu Shinobiest Bitch! Joined: Posts: 2,708
    Lets be honest... Ouroboros looks like ass now. If it's going to be level 3 then atleast let it chip and have the orbs hit. All these nerfs are the marks of a toned down level 1 ouroboros... I really don't know what they were thinking making it level 3.

    The trailer was hilarious, they even put in a clip of it frantically getting push blocked.

    Everytime I've seen Oroboros activated in a match, its almost always converted into a kill. Clockw0rk with 3 days of practice at an event was able to kill one of Dios X's characters just with orb mix ups. And Dios X is fucking good. It's 50 minutes in: http://www.twitch.tv/marquezsf/b/290868369
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  • CiscoCisco better than you Joined: Posts: 3,383 GOAT
    Strider reveal trailer (yes,it's new).

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  • cjaycrcjaycr Joined: Posts: 1,002
    Yeah, people aren't realizing that once the game is actually released and people have developed setups and resets to maximize Ouroboros there's probably going to be some serious face melting. I doubt its potential has been tapped in these last couple of days. Just because it doesn't look like you can activate and pew pew pew till KO doesn't mean it's in need of buffs just yet.

    We need to wait and see because all things considered Strider already seems like a powerful character and Ouroboros is just the cherry on top that will keep him strong or make him unnecessarily godlike.
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  • HaikuWarHaikuWar The Best Looking Player EVER Joined: Posts: 2,094
    And also it has more start-up after the super startup animation and with no invisibility frames apparently. Also, the new pushblock just kills the lock-down without an assist.
    Hopefully the Ouroboros itself or with XF are powerful enough to compensate.

    Many Strider teams are gonna have to create combos based on meter more than damage now. Thankfully Zero builds lots of meter :)

    Zero/strider are going to be the new Best Friends just watch... I swear to god LOL...
  • HaikuWarHaikuWar The Best Looking Player EVER Joined: Posts: 2,094
    so for now I see Strider teaming with anyone who can build meter/Doesnt use much meter/has a Zoning style assist, extended assist that keeps an opponent in place

    EG
    Good builders Zero,Magneto,Taskmaster,Dante
    Good assist Dante ( Jam ) Taskmaster ( Any arrows ) Doom ( Honestly any of them )
    Zero ( Only in Sougenmu any assist but his SRK ) Akuma ( tatsu ) and thats just some examples

    Strider seems very true to his MVC2 being he is gonna need a solid team built around him to be fully useful and hes not just a * throw him on the team * character.
  • AmishOpiateAmishOpiate Mega Slowbro. Joined: Posts: 1,650
    so for now I see Strider teaming with anyone who can build meter/Doesnt use much meter/has a Zoning style assist, extended assist that keeps an opponent in place

    EG
    Good builders Zero,Magneto,Taskmaster,Dante
    Good assist Dante ( Jam ) Taskmaster ( Any arrows ) Doom ( Honestly any of them )
    Zero ( Only in Sougenmu any assist but his SRK ) Akuma ( tatsu ) and thats just some examples

    Strider seems very true to his MVC2 being he is gonna need a solid team built around him to be fully useful and hes not just a * throw him on the team * character.

    I think Strider is going to be somewhat like Phoenix in that you are going to have to design a team around his needs to get the most out of him; I don't think you are going to be able to plop him in the middle of an existing team, unless those pieces happen to fit just right. At the minimum, I think he is going to need a good battery to start the match; I don't think he is going to be much effective at the first character in.
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  • CiscoCisco better than you Joined: Posts: 3,383 GOAT
    Everytime I've seen Oroboros activated in a match, its almost always converted into a kill. Clockw0rk with 3 days of practice at an event was able to kill one of Dios X's characters just with orb mix ups. And Dios X is fucking good. It's 50 minutes in: http://www.twitch.tv/marquezsf/b/290868369

    damn, clock fuckin sucked with strider. Floe's strider still holds as the most impressive at the moment.
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  • KefKef Joined: Posts: 3,170
    Where can I find footage of Floe's Strider?
    Also, Cisco and Haiku, you guys are also going to use Zero+Strider right?
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  • Locke815Locke815 Unpredictable Joined: Posts: 298
    Strider's Orbs are somewhat weak atm especially when you compare it to Dante's DT.

    Dante's DT
    -1 meter
    -last 10 sec
    -power boost
    -regenerate health
    -new moves like flight,etc
    -some invincibility start up
    -no recovery I think?
    -no meter gain
    -no chip dmg with normals but still chip with specials

    Strider's Orb
    -3 meters
    -last about 5 sec
    -some recovery?
    -no meter gain
    -no chip dmg but still chip with specials?

    I might have miss some points here and there. Not too much info on orbs so I can't fully speculate too much on it but I think it should be at least lvl 1 or 2 since it is only dangerous when combine with XF atm. 3 meters+XF is an expensive price to pay to kill 1 character.
  • CiscoCisco better than you Joined: Posts: 3,383 GOAT
    Where can I find footage of Floe's Strider?
    Also, Cisco and Haiku, you guys are also going to use Zero+Strider right?

    It's in that twitch video link. I believe it's one of the July 21 vids. I might, however i have interests in trying Strider/Ghost rider/Dormammu. From what i've learned from floe, it's best to use strider on point than second by bringing him in with orbs. That is so MVC2 where your point has to dhc strider in. Floe was 10x better than clock with Strider. He freakin ocv'd Dante, Wesker and sentinel with such fashion and with out orbs.
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  • CiscoCisco better than you Joined: Posts: 3,383 GOAT
    damn, clockwOrk got me a bit upset.
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    Strider's Orbs are somewhat weak atm especially when you compare it to Dante's DT.

    Dante's DT
    -1 meter
    -last 10 sec
    -power boost
    -regenerate health
    -new moves like flight,etc
    -some invincibility start up
    -no recovery I think?
    -no meter gain
    -no chip dmg with normals but still chip with specials

    Strider's Orb
    -3 meters
    -last about 5 sec
    -some recovery?
    -no meter gain
    -no chip dmg but still chip with specials?

    I might have miss some points here and there. Not too much info on orbs so I can't fully speculate too much on it but I think it should be at least lvl 1 or 2 since it is only dangerous when combine with XF atm. 3 meters+XF is an expensive price to pay to kill 1 character.
    that just translates as "strider's orbs isn't as good anymore and people are overestimating it". It doesn't seem like a super you can launch a full scale comeback with against 3 characters, especially with the duration being so quick. If you're wasting 3 meters for it you better kill ATLEAST two characters with it because there are plenty of other characters who don't even need to spend that much meter to kill an entire team.

    Edit: @ Mr. X, lol that's awesome.
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  • maziodynemaziodyne Demi-Fiend Joined: Posts: 7,748
    Strider reveal trailer (yes,it's new).


    that combo against sentinel in the first part was pretty slick. also yeah, I agree with those who say strider is gonna need teams centered around him. itching to see how the old strider/doom/sentinel team works...
  • scytheavatarscytheavatar Joined: Posts: 2,447
    damn, clock fuckin sucked with strider. Floe's strider still holds as the most impressive at the moment.

    *Facepalm* because people are supposed to be good with Strider after spending minutes with him?
  • X_SwordX_Sword -+FGs, Art, and Beats+- Joined: Posts: 1,803
    did anyone sift through hours of UMvC3 matches to find floe play Strider?
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  • k0rr1k0rr1 Hello thar. Joined: Posts: 226
    damn, clockwOrk got me a bit upset.
    Clockw0rk has years of MvC2 Strider habits/tendencies to erase. It's easier to start off fresh like Floe then to relearn almost everything.
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    Lol just came to laugh at how shitty Oroboros is now. Good job Capcom way to over nerf Strider's best super.
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  • HaikuWarHaikuWar The Best Looking Player EVER Joined: Posts: 2,094
    Where can I find footage of Floe's Strider?
    Also, Cisco and Haiku, you guys are also going to use Zero+Strider right?
    Yeah Zero/Strider/Good anchor liek tronne

    DEF sticking with zero now after doing the theory team stuff. We should discuss the zero/strider on zero threads later though.
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    What was Floe's team?
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    Yeah Zero/Strider/Good anchor liek tronne

    DEF sticking with zero now after doing the theory team stuff. We should discuss the zero/strider on zero threads later though.

    We can do that over there at the Zero forums in the team thread. Let's leave this thread for Strider theory fighting only. And to debate on Ouroboros lol.
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  • maziodynemaziodyne Demi-Fiend Joined: Posts: 7,748
    tron got nerfed though didn't she?
  • HaikuWarHaikuWar The Best Looking Player EVER Joined: Posts: 2,094
    I say strider will be a glass canon, hes gonna be hard to use ( HOPEFULLY ) and do good mixups.
  • KefKef Joined: Posts: 3,170
    tron got nerfed though didn't she?

    Apparently only the assist (Type-b), haven't heard anything about her moveset.
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  • maziodynemaziodyne Demi-Fiend Joined: Posts: 7,748
    I think I remember reading something in the UMvC3 changes thread about her j.H having more pushback, meaning it's gonna be harder for her to confirm into combos.
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    Strider is just deadweight on a Zero team IMO. Strider's not a Dante where he's a beast on point, beast dhc beast everything.

    From what I seen, I would do something like Wesker/Strider/assist. Wesker is the best battery in the game and has an assist that can really increase Strider's damage output. With Strider being somewhat like Phoenix, I think he probably works really well with Strider. I think Wesker/Strider/plasma beam is a good team for him.
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