Do YOU do any Martial Arts?

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  • KrimzonKrimzon Joined: Posts: 399
    another question.. what's the point of boxing in MMA? seems you can get along just fine with muay thai and grappling.

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    movement

    see frankie edgar, anderson silva, georges st pierre, matt mitrione, frank mir, dominick cruz, jose aldo
    ah thanks. nice precise answer. had no idea
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  • debsdebs lowering property value Joined: Posts: 5,018
    was almost a black belt in tkd but i dropped out right before to do other stuff (i was burned out anyway and not taking it as seriously as when i first started)...i've recently thought about doing judo or jiujitsu this time around, tho.
  • Da BoogeymanDa Boogeyman Joined: Posts: 2,292
    With boxing just watch any prime james toney or mike tyson, movement pretty much, foot work, defense, and well head movement

    Watch how tyson sways and ducks punches and hits the dempsey roll (lol)

    Also look at anderson silva/forrest griffin

    Forrest throws these sloppy punches not intended to knock out just make contact, anderson avoids all those crappy punches. Sherdog goes crazy because omg somebody did not get hit.

    It is wierd so many dudes in mma take damage to deal damage. I mean even gsp looked fucked after he owned shields.
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  • omfgomfg Joined: Posts: 2,028
    ^ lol shit sounds like a real style

    k nice. so boxing is what mma turtlers would use
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  • MCPMCP Joined: Posts: 2,012
    Going back in time to the ancient Greek Olympics, there was boxing and wrestling, and then there was Pankration, started in 646 BC.

    There were only two rules regarding combat: contestants were allowed all except to gouge eyes or to bite.

    Breaking toes and/or fingers was a valid way to escape a lock or choke, for instance.

    Anyways,

    Going all the way back 2500 years ago, people then understood as people today understand, going to the ground or standing is up to each athlete's strengths versus the opponent's weaknesses. If one doesn't train in something, one can expect the opponent will try to make you use it.

    I've done Tae Kwon Do and Judo. The only other martial art I've spent any significant amount of time on is Eskrima, but I haven't spent nearly as much as the other two. I've taken lessons, formal or informal, in lots of various martial arts. I did Aikido for two months, but it was boring.

    Any kind of submissions wreslting/grappling along with some practical striking will make someone a practical fighter in MMA style rules as we know it. It's all about the training method. If you aren't training by fighting then you aren't training to fight!

    Someone asked about Aikido:

    Are your goals to just have fun? There's no problem with that you are allowed to do anything you want.

    But Aikido is widely considered not practical because they don't train through fighting like its contemporary Judo does. In every class I ever took for Judo, after initial warm ups, we did free grappling, 3 minutes per partner for 20 minutes or so, where we try to submit each other (or under Judo rules, pin for 30 seconds). In Aikido, after initial warmup, we practiced some techniques on a partner who would let you practice on him/her. That's the major difference. In Aikido you almost never deal with someone who wants to stop you, in Judo, my opponent is always trying to stop me and in fact is trying to defeat me.

    On top of that, in Aikido we never did grappling. Grappling is basically the most effective method for training your physical and mental bodies, to push your limits to new boundaries. It's the thing I miss most about going to class and competing every day. I can work out and stretch every morning and after work, but it's just not the same as fighting an opponent.
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  • PerthoPertho The Runed One Joined: Posts: 20,886 mod
    There is no such thing as the strongest martial art form.

    This man has obviously not watched Hokuto No Ken or he wouldn't say such blasphemy.

    Before you typed, your post was already shit. :nunchuck:
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    Did you use the dragonballs?
  • CaliburCalibur Paying off debts one scrub at a time. Joined: Posts: 583
    I've been doing martial arts for almost 20 years. Now I only do BJJ. Hope to get my brown belt before the end of the year.
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    I have done Capoeira for over 11yrs ..we also study BJJ there because my professor has a huge background in it. im in the teaching rank double colors....but bboying took over and my career goal is to become a choreographer :D
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  • rawrrisseyrawrrissey Joined: Posts: 5
    I studied tae known do for about 6 years as a teenager. My instructor was a gold medalist and he also though me kickboxing aikido and hopkido* ....my master was also a gold medalist and world champion. My sister and i were lucky enough to get private lessons from grandmaster park for like a year. (maybe some of you in California know him) he focused a lot on meditating and execution. My father was in the anti narc division in the military so he thought me how to box.
    I stayed at brown belt for many years because I never wanted to pay to test lol. My close friend is a muy Thai and judo instructor....and I can say that knack style grappling and takedowns are for scribe. That doesn't work irl. Nothing is more effective than a knee to the face or a clean shot to brain by a fist or kick.....sure you can severely injure someone or maybe even kill them...but we all play to win, right? ....let's keep that mma talk out of here. Men groping each other is not what I call a contact sport....no disrespect to the tkd/kickboxing knack practioners
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    Idk where that knack came from....stupid auto correct....I meant to type knack...not mma
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    Scribes= scrubs stupid phone
  • Orochi_RichieOrochi_Richie Joined: Posts: 245
    4 years of tae kwon do
    2 of traditional okinawan karate
    2 years of fencing
    2 years wrestling

    And i start kendo next month. :D
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    I've done only a year of studies of tae kwon-do in the ITF league. I didn't accomplish much except for receiving a bronze medal in patterns at a provincial tournament.
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    I know Shaq Fu...............
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    I did 4 years of wing tsun. gonna take up Hapkido starting next year.
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    Someone asked about Aikido:

    Are your goals to just have fun? There's no problem with that you are allowed to do anything you want.

    But Aikido is widely considered not practical because they don't train through fighting like its contemporary Judo does. In every class I ever took for Judo, after initial warm ups, we did free grappling, 3 minutes per partner for 20 minutes or so, where we try to submit each other (or under Judo rules, pin for 30 seconds). In Aikido, after initial warmup, we practiced some techniques on a partner who would let you practice on him/her. That's the major difference. In Aikido you almost never deal with someone who wants to stop you, in Judo, my opponent is always trying to stop me and in fact is trying to defeat me.

    On top of that, in Aikido we never did grappling. Grappling is basically the most effective method for training your physical and mental bodies, to push your limits to new boundaries. It's the thing I miss most about going to class and competing every day. I can work out and stretch every morning and after work, but it's just not the same as fighting an opponent.

    So what do you do in an Aikido class, anyway?
    What got my attention about Aikido was how it's based on. As I see it, it is about different ways of parrying your opponents attacks. If in Aikido training, your opponent is almost never trying to stop you, what then? What more can you, or others tell me about Aikido? But let's talk about Judo too.
  • Th3 JoK3R JTh3 JoK3R J Got Claw? Joined: Posts: 772
    This man has obviously not watched Hokuto No Ken or he wouldn't say such blasphemy.

    Before you typed, your post was already shit. :nunchuck:
    Lol Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris would have liked to handle that problem.
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    I have an asian wife that knows Kung fu, she is also the master of the unexcapeble kuma sutra leglock
  • PongBoomPongBoom land of ice and snow Joined: Posts: 707
    ^ lol shit sounds like a real style

    k nice. so boxing is what mma turtlers would use

    Stop spamming the dodge my punch move!!! JEEZ. STOP TURTELING
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  • MCPMCP Joined: Posts: 2,012
    So what do you do in an Aikido class, anyway?
    What got my attention about Aikido was how it's based on. As I see it, it is about different ways of parrying your opponents attacks. If in Aikido training, your opponent is almost never trying to stop you, what then? What more can you, or others tell me about Aikido? But let's talk about Judo too.
    My instructor is Yoshi at UC Santa Cruz, from Japan. So he's pretty old school when it comes to Aikido.
    Warmup, stretch, fall practice, pay respect to "O-Sensei" and other standard things occur in a class. But let's discuss practicing a parrying/escape technique
    For practicing techniques though, we are instructed to do something, eg grab the instructors/senior student's arm, and they show a technique. Now I would (almost) never grab someone's arm with both hands, and I certainly wouldn't stiffen my body up, but that is what we're supposed to do. Then we all partner up and practice it.
    Imagine I am supposed to start pushing my partner, and they have to parry my pushes. Nothing wrong with that, but if someone starts pushing me in real life, I need excellent timing in order to parry that. How would I get that timing if we're working in a sterile environment where my partner and I never really mean to fight each other?

    Now in Judo class, fyi my Instructor is from Korea thus the future Hapkido reference, by matter of practice since we're fighting each other, eventually we're gonna try to grab each other's wrists/forearms. There exists a very simply Hapkido technique to break my opponent's attempt to grab it. Seems useful, but really they'll just try again, and again, and again, and unless I stop them, they're going to throw me. The thing is, how do I turn this simple technique for breaking someone's grab attempt at my wrist/forearm into an advantage? How would I ever be able to do this without practicing it on a live opponent who is trying actively to defeat me? That is issue one with Aikido. The other issue I have is without partner grappling/sparring, the workout is somewhere around 1/3 effective physically and I fear much worse mentally. The mere act of grappling an opponent works out muscles one probably never knew existed, it's a whole body workout, and the act of trying to escape an opponent works out your mental strength, are you able to will yourself through that last bit so you can escape and/or take advantage? Only practice will make you so strong.
  • Da BoogeymanDa Boogeyman Joined: Posts: 2,292
    Maybe your takedowns did not work in real life because your grappling technique sucks
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    How this thread hasn't turned into a flame war thanks to Da Boogeyman is beyond me.
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    That shit in the first post about the dude learning some game characters 10 hit combo cracked me up for some reason. Shit is whack!

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    My instructor is Yoshi at UC Santa Cruz, from Japan. So he's pretty old school when it comes to Aikido.
    Warmup, stretch, fall practice, pay respect to "O-Sensei" and other standard things occur in a class. But let's discuss practicing a parrying/escape technique
    For practicing techniques though, we are instructed to do something, eg grab the instructors/senior student's arm, and they show a technique. Now I would (almost) never grab someone's arm with both hands, and I certainly wouldn't stiffen my body up, but that is what we're supposed to do. Then we all partner up and practice it.
    Imagine I am supposed to start pushing my partner, and they have to parry my pushes. Nothing wrong with that, but if someone starts pushing me in real life, I need excellent timing in order to parry that. How would I get that timing if we're working in a sterile environment where my partner and I never really mean to fight each other?

    Now in Judo class, fyi my Instructor is from Korea thus the future Hapkido reference, by matter of practice since we're fighting each other, eventually we're gonna try to grab each other's wrists/forearms. There exists a very simply Hapkido technique to break my opponent's attempt to grab it. Seems useful, but really they'll just try again, and again, and again, and unless I stop them, they're going to throw me. The thing is, how do I turn this simple technique for breaking someone's grab attempt at my wrist/forearm into an advantage? How would I ever be able to do this without practicing it on a live opponent who is trying actively to defeat me? That is issue one with Aikido. The other issue I have is without partner grappling/sparring, the workout is somewhere around 1/3 effective physically and I fear much worse mentally. The mere act of grappling an opponent works out muscles one probably never knew existed, it's a whole body workout, and the act of trying to escape an opponent works out your mental strength, are you able to will yourself through that last bit so you can escape and/or take advantage? Only practice will make you so strong.
    "excellent timing"

    sounds like you have to know it's coming beforehand
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  • Da BoogeymanDa Boogeyman Joined: Posts: 2,292
    Judo is hips, momentum, reversals and timing.

    I mean bruce lee used judo and jiujitsu in his movies. Hipthrow into armbar lol

    Only time you will see aikido in practice is in steven segal movies

    Lol seriously about the people saying a good punch or knee can put you out. Sure it can, but how often are you fighting a trained person? The thai plum is awesome as a clinch position. You control the neck and you control the body. But again that is good grappling with good striking.

    Lol at the fantasy world where jet li kicks the asses of 20 mma fighters
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    Judo is hips, momentum, reversals and timing.

    I mean bruce lee used judo and jiujitsu in his movies. Hipthrow into armbar lol

    Only time you will see aikido in practice is in steven segal movies

    Lol seriously about the people saying a good punch or knee can put you out. Sure it can, but how often are you fighting a trained person? The thai plum is awesome as a clinch position. You control the neck and you control the body. But again that is good grappling with good striking.

    Lol at the fantasy world where jet li kicks the asses of 20 mma fighters

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  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,172
    another question.. what's the point of boxing in MMA? seems you can get along just fine with muay thai and grappling.

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    *snip*
    would you believe that i looked at most of that video and just didn't get the relevance?
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  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,172
    would you believe that i looked at most of that video and just didn't get the relevance?

  • omfgomfg Joined: Posts: 2,028
    *snip*
    ty

    so the order of importance is wrestling > boxing > muay thai
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  • Sexperienced.Sexperienced. kdh Joined: Posts: 5,172
    ty

    so the order of importance is wrestling > boxing > muay thai

    Punching, footwork, spacing etc is far more important than kicking in mma... (but dont get me wrong, kicking is extremely useful).

    In black belt magazine they compared the power of a martial artist strike to a boxers punch. there was no comparison, the boxers hit a lot harder than the martial artists.
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  • Da BoogeymanDa Boogeyman Joined: Posts: 2,292
    Traditional martial arts sparring like tkd or shotokan karate bars face punches

    What this does take focus away from punching and move it towards kicks. The push kick, roundhouse, sidekick, spinning back kick. All are used as sort of a jab to keep distance, score points

    Meh that is why tkd and karate guys get destroyed in k-1
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    My dad taught me boxing while I was growing up, but I didn't stay with it (wish I had). Presently I've been doing Krav Maga for a little over a year-- I like it because of the practical real life applications, ie; hitting people in the balls.... a lot.
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    My dad taught me boxing while I was growing up, but I didn't stay with it (wish I had). Presently I've been doing Krav Maga for a little over a year-- I like it because of the practical real life applications, ie; hitting people in the balls.... a lot.

    My dad taught me boxing too, but i was the punching bag....
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    I did taekwondo back in high school. Was considered an unofficial black belt when I stopped (I didn't take the black belt test cause it was in my final 2 months of high school, and that test was a lot more expensive than the usual test fees)

    Since then, I had stopped until earlier this year when I picked up kickboxing; for fitness rather than the discipline.
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    I've done Kickboxing and learned a bit of mma style grappling. I can honestly say that while grappling and submissions are strong and very nice to know...wrestling is extremely powerful. If you can get on top of someone and stop their options and "take every inch they give you"....as my instructor used to say....It'll make your day hell.

    ...And someone on the page before said something about a good striker not stopping a good grapplers game....Huh. Uppercuts. Knees. Get hit by one in the face and you'll think twice about shooting or even lowering your level....If you actually are concious after getting hit.

    Solid grappling and wrestling defense is better for those who arent that great at striking n such.
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    I took Tae Kwon Do from a very young age and my father was a black belt or equivalent skill in Tae Kwon Do, Judo and form of JJ he trained me through most of my youth after which I continued with boxing.

    I'd really like to get into Baji Quan or KFM though.
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    Took up real Shotokan Karate-do back in high school (got up to purple belt, was a couple of ranks away from black). Also tried out some basic Preying Mantis Kung Fu and Jeet Kune Do and got some basic grappling lessons from a friend who did some MMA.
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    Took up real Shotokan Karate-do back in high school (got up to purple belt, was a couple of ranks away from black). Also tried out some basic Preying Mantis Kung Fu and Jeet Kune Do and got some basic grappling lessons from a friend who did some MMA.

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    Did bare-knuckle with Don Heinzman over at tiger's pit here for a little...

    Learned a lot! he is ahead of the game in many, many ways.

    Learned many things that wont be in mma anything soon due to people not knowing it or it being illegal
    - Since i took those classes just to learn how to fight, he taught me moves for the "real-world" like leverage on the fence n such.

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