Do YOU do any Martial Arts?

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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,190
    Are you that fuckhead who misses about 5-10 minutes and rolls in at the very end of the warm up?

    You fucker that's why you would do 30 burpees and 100 squats before joining the class
  • MIRACLEARROWMIRACLEARROW Kendoka Joined: Posts: 1,988
    edited June 13
    dab00g wrote: »
    I always use the warm up to do these goals:

    Build conditioning
    Build strength
    Build muscle memory
    Build reflexes

    It is geared towards building movement, balance, dexterity, explosiveness, and toughness

    The drills we start with also go with this

    Getting a bunch of dudes worked up, not beat up is the goal.

    Like if you are dead at warm up how are you in a tournament 3 minutes deep with 7 to go. Are you going to have that breathing, and explosiveness in the next match? How about in the field? How are you going to last long enough to get out of there absorbing the least amount of damage?

    Now the bridging, stretching, and other things i got from my tkd coaches? That is just torture that gives you that extra.

    Neck and shoulder bridging. More bjj guys need this

    Depending on the level. You should be training people to apply as much explosiveness as possible even when they're dead tired. Its hard to teach energy management and control.
    You want fighters to get into the habit of managing their energy efficiently and effectively. Especially when they're tired. And apply it when they're striking or going for a takedown, or attacking for a point etc.

    Any good tournament fighters learn this, and its often what separates average fighters/players from good ones. Its as me and my competitive coaches joke around about during tournaments: Winning is tiring. It means you play more matches. Thats the difference between a winner and a loser.





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  • maxxmaxx DIO THE DESTROYER Joined: Posts: 36,033 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    For those interested The Bruce Lee Foundation just uploaded some (mostly unseen) footage of a 27 year old Bruce Lee performing a martial arts demo at Long Beach Internationals in 1967.

    is this confirmed legit...im super confused why they got so much gear on. no one had fuckin headgear really in the 70s-80's. it was only late 80s/90s they started wearing gear.
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  • EmanuelbEmanuelb Joined: Posts: 3,256
    So, what do you guys do when overstretching ? I tried one of Jake mace's exercise - this one:



    The problem is, I tried to raise my kick too high, and I felt pain in the left leg (i think it is the inner tigh ?). I pushed forward and kept theleg there and then went forward with my training.
    Now, at certain moves, I feel some pain in the left leg (the inner thigh). I rested for 3 days this weekend, and today I trained again - I could train well, threw some nice mawashi geris, but I felt a bit of pain when doing a side kick with my right foot.

    The hardest pain I feel is when I'm trying to stretch into this:

    http://www.wikihow.com/Stretch-for-the-Splits#/Image:Stretch-for-the-Splits-Step-5.jpg

    I used to bend forward fairly well, but I can't do it since it hurts. After the session training I'm also feeling some soreness in the muscle.

    So, what do you guys do when overstreched ? should I rest for a couple of more days ? only do some light training ? maybe see a doctor ? I heard there are some anti inflamatory gel I could use but I'm not sure.


  • MIRACLEARROWMIRACLEARROW Kendoka Joined: Posts: 1,988
    So I'm officially a Kendo Shodan(Blackbelt).
    Pretty pumped. I might post a video of my grading if anyone is interested?
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  • Ki ShimaKi Shima This tiger isn't dead.... Joined: Posts: 8,198
    So I'm officially a Kendo Shodan(Blackbelt).
    Pretty pumped. I might post a video of my grading if anyone is interested?

    yeah
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  • MIRACLEARROWMIRACLEARROW Kendoka Joined: Posts: 1,988
    Ill post some vids tomorrow probably. Ill give you guys the run down lol.
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  • maxxmaxx DIO THE DESTROYER Joined: Posts: 36,033 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    im gonna diss you. but post away. your foot better be pivoted son
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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,190
    Never jump guard on a guy with 40 lbs on you and willing to crush you instead of blowng his back out

    Like hobestly why dude? You want me to spinebuster you like i'm batista?
  • The Furious OneThe Furious One Fluent in 3 languages Engrish, Sarcasm & Profanity Joined: Posts: 20,693
    maxx wrote: »
    For those interested The Bruce Lee Foundation just uploaded some (mostly unseen) footage of a 27 year old Bruce Lee performing a martial arts demo at Long Beach Internationals in 1967.

    is this confirmed legit...im super confused why they got so much gear on. no one had fuckin headgear really in the 70s-80's. it was only late 80s/90s they started wearing gear.

    Yep, Lee is credited as the first to introduce full contact sparring to the MA community in the 70s.
  • GimpyGimpy Joined: Posts: 9,151 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Since the summer is an extremely slow time at my job, I'm bored so I'm posting this.


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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,190
    Fight breakdown

    Fat White guy has decided size and power advantage and throws really shitty haymakers. But starts fading quick

    Asian dude kills with leg kicks, but again his "muay thai" weakness is the lack of head movement or parry attacks

    Fat white dude eats so many leg kicks and he loses any arm strength because of how many "punches" he throws

    Fat dude's defense sucks. His defense is sort of just shrugging off punches and kicks.

    But those kicks to the arm take their toll

    And he gets slept by a head kick

    Hope asian dude ran out of therr

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  • MIRACLEARROWMIRACLEARROW Kendoka Joined: Posts: 1,988
    maxx wrote: »
    im gonna diss you. but post away. your foot better be pivoted son

    Ill be posting soon. Been in MTL this week for work. Going to train at my old club.
    Should be a blast. Excited to fight my old sensei.
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  • Pablo_the_MexPablo_the_Mex Blond Kanye Status Joined: Posts: 8,179
    That is not a smoker, that is just DADA5000 doing his backyard fights lolol.

  • Ki ShimaKi Shima This tiger isn't dead.... Joined: Posts: 8,198
    maxx wrote: »
    im gonna diss you. but post away. your foot better be pivoted son

    You scared him away
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  • thurstthurst What's my age again? Joined: Posts: 11,529 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Lol the boxer had him beat, but those leg kicks got him in the end.
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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,190
    That was such bad boxing vs very bad muay thai

    Smaller dude went down, but a lot of the other times it looked like he got tripped

    Jesus, no defense from either guy. And that headkick and fat dude got slept with possible brain bleeding

    Those leg kicks were super harsh
  • MIRACLEARROWMIRACLEARROW Kendoka Joined: Posts: 1,988
    edited June 26
    Ki Shima wrote: »
    maxx wrote: »
    im gonna diss you. but post away. your foot better be pivoted son

    You scared him away

    Sorry, I havent even posted any photos on FB yet. Been so busy. Should be able to post soon.
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  • GimpyGimpy Joined: Posts: 9,151 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Got a question for the folks in here who do a lot of kickboxing. My job might get a kickboxing heavy bag. What are good free-standing ones and good bags with stands? Looking for something sturdy and can take abuse. :lol:
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  • MIRACLEARROWMIRACLEARROW Kendoka Joined: Posts: 1,988
    Gimpy wrote: »
    Got a question for the folks in here who do a lot of kickboxing. My job might get a kickboxing heavy bag. What are good free-standing ones and good bags with stands? Looking for something sturdy and can take abuse. :lol:

    The answer is none lol.
    Especially for kickboxing. You should hang a kicking bag. I'm biased but honestly I'm yet to see a good free standing/stand bag that doesn't shake like a fiend.
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  • GimpyGimpy Joined: Posts: 9,151 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Gimpy wrote: »
    Got a question for the folks in here who do a lot of kickboxing. My job might get a kickboxing heavy bag. What are good free-standing ones and good bags with stands? Looking for something sturdy and can take abuse. :lol:

    The answer is none lol.
    Especially for kickboxing. You should hang a kicking bag. I'm biased but honestly I'm yet to see a good free standing/stand bag that doesn't shake like a fiend.

    I went back to look at our makeshift gym here and there seems to be an area where a heavy bag can be hung from. Got to ask the custodian if it's sturdy enough.

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  • EmanuelbEmanuelb Joined: Posts: 3,256
    speaking of this, what do you guys recommend for training home ? a heavy bag or a makiwara ? I want to buy something to help develop power in my strikes but I'm not sure which one is the best. Anybody has experience with this type of equipment ? pros/cons ?


  • GimpyGimpy Joined: Posts: 9,151 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited June 29
    Emanuelb wrote: »
    speaking of this, what do you guys recommend for training home ? a heavy bag or a makiwara ? I want to buy something to help develop power in my strikes but I'm not sure which one is the best. Anybody has experience with this type of equipment ? pros/cons ?


    If you have the room I say get both.


    Edit : Maybe this will also help. http://www.fullpotentialma.com/punching-bag-and-makiwara-training/
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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,190
    You develop power through lifting. Hitting a heavy bag does not make your striking better. What makes your striking better is strictly form and mit work.

    A heavy bag is great for conditioning

    Not so much striking power

    But hey you said boxing is the easiest to learn and mostly useless so....
  • MIRACLEARROWMIRACLEARROW Kendoka Joined: Posts: 1,988
    edited June 29
    dab00g wrote: »
    You develop power through lifting. Hitting a heavy bag does not make your striking better. What makes your striking better is strictly form and mit work.

    A heavy bag is great for conditioning

    Not so much striking power

    But hey you said boxing is the easiest to learn and mostly useless so....

    Mit work isn't going to make your punches stronger typically. Mit work usually is the best way to pull all things together. It works footwork, handspeed, timing, conditioning, defense etc.

    A heavy bag actually is a good way to build power if you're using it properly since it gives you an avenue to hit something at full force with little to no reprocussion. I would agree that its also great for conditioning.

    Also, I would argue that weight lifting isn't a good way to develop power at all. I mean if you're doing a lot of leg work and squats calves etc then it would be good for power since most of it is generated in your lower regions. But doing power lifting for your upper body isn't. The best way to develop power is through technique like you said.


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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,190
    Doing things like sledge hammer drills, axe handle presses, sandbag drills, and all those old school kettle bell, dumbell work.

    You do it to develop back, wrist, core, and legs

    You need to remember i train explosiveness and longevity.

    You thinking about bodybuilding, which does help in some ways.

    Power lifting also gives you more power to play with

    But i imagine most of the people posting "how do?" Are fat out of shape lumps throwing the weakest shit
  • EmanuelbEmanuelb Joined: Posts: 3,256
    nah, I'm actually well fit, almost perfect height/weight ratio. I just don't have much experience with methods of training. There are a lot of concepts here:

    - what is mit work ?

    - what do you mean by conditioning ? I know you have to condition your hand in order to break boards (to harden your hand), but what does a heavy bag do ?

    - what do you mean developing power through technique ? simply practicing a tecnique ? (like punching in the air ->kihon in karate ?)

    I also heard that if you do too much weight lifting, it will reduce your flexibility, which is very bad for karate - is it true ? I'm also interested in training for explosiveness, not traditional bodybuilding.


  • The Furious OneThe Furious One Fluent in 3 languages Engrish, Sarcasm & Profanity Joined: Posts: 20,693
    edited July 1
    Back when I trained the only weight lifting I did was supplemental, any movement I'd do in a fight I'd strap on a weight to add resistance. I trained more like an American football player than anything. I prefer working with resistance bands now as my carelessness in my youth is catching up with me :( I should jump onto the Wim Hoff program.

    Any sort of strength training will reduce your flexibility BUT that's why you are meant to do flexibility training as well. There are plenty of examples of muscle-bound folks who look like bodybuilders but have the flexibility of a gymnist, classic example, Van Damme. Look at Jujimufu who is quite popular on social media at the moment.
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  • maxxmaxx DIO THE DESTROYER Joined: Posts: 36,033 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    juji is a special case because he started in martial arts tricking which requires flexibility. he was doing that longgg before he started lifting.
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    Young Juji was scrawny as fuck.
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  • Ki ShimaKi Shima This tiger isn't dead.... Joined: Posts: 8,198
    edited July 2
    Emanuelb wrote: »
    speaking of this, what do you guys recommend for training home ? a heavy bag or a makiwara ? I want to buy something to help develop power in my strikes but I'm not sure which one is the best. Anybody has experience with this type of equipment ? pros/cons ?

    Do explosive sprinting to improve kicking power. Also do squats and detailed mitt work for punching power, heavy bag work for endurance.

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  • EmanuelbEmanuelb Joined: Posts: 3,256
    edited July 3
    thank you. by mitt work you mean training with fightpads ? and canyou use fightpads for kick training, or they are only for punches ?
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  • Tekno VirusTekno Virus small man big strength Joined: Posts: 8,598
    The small mitts are for punches. The ones that cover your forearms are for kicks, knees, punches, elbows
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  • Tekno VirusTekno Virus small man big strength Joined: Posts: 8,598
    In general, power comes from the hips. Most guys only punch from the waist above and rely on throwing themselves into the punch. Always be over your center of gravity, fully torque your hips. Do some yoga to open those hips and yoga also has exercises to strengthen the hips if you can find a school that teaches them.
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  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,190
    Power cleans, clean and press, turkish get ups, squats, sled pulls, sled pushes...
  • MIRACLEARROWMIRACLEARROW Kendoka Joined: Posts: 1,988
    dab00g wrote: »
    Power cleans, clean and press, turkish get ups, squats, sled pulls, sled pushes...

    Explosive/dynamic training will make everything better. Power comes with that.
    The science in sports these days is all about muscle explosion
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  • FrostyAUFrostyAU Lynx in your sinks Joined: Posts: 7,915
    A lot of what I do these days is focused on low resistance stuff like swimming and cycling. Need to keep high cardio without the wear and tear on the joints.
  • MIRACLEARROWMIRACLEARROW Kendoka Joined: Posts: 1,988
    edited July 20
    Still havent gotten around to posting. Between family stuff, moving, and training for nationals I havent even built my computer desk at home. Ill post soon. I had to do 8 mini sparring sessions in a row yesterday in front of my whole class for 'nationals' training. My coaches are awesome but at the same time I was dying after. It was intense, I'm a zombie today. All short bursts, it was rough. Its great practice, and I'm pretty happy, I was selected to represent my club at Nationals. I don't think I'll be a starter but you never know. They only select 7 members and my club is both huge and competitive. So since we can only submit one team for Nationals I'm very happy. I get to compete to represent our province in nationals too this Sunday. Fighting tryouts from 10 until 3.... Gonna be rough. I definitely wont make the provincial team team but great experience.

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    Gay

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  • EmanuelbEmanuelb Joined: Posts: 3,256
    You know, sometimes you train hard for weeks or even months and you don't see any improvements and you started to get discouraged. And then one day you see an improvement, and boy, does it feel good. It motivates you to keep going with training.
    I trained a lot for my kicks, but still didn't see much improvement. And then one day I tried to throw a mawashi geri (round kick) and I was astonished how high I did. I was like I can't believe it, whoaaa, it was an awesome feeling, you feel soo good when your training start to pay off. I mean, I'm still not able to do the full split, but I can throw a pretty high round kick.
    I still have to work for my side kick though, throwing a high side kick is more difficult. I also started to train my hook kick and it's going pretty well. I remember a few months ago we did hook kicks at the dojo, and I was like man, I will never be able to do this. So the simple fact that now I can perform the hook kick motion is a major improvement.

    Btw, what do you guys do to help with your flexibility ? I usually do some static stretching from this video:



    and some dynamic ones from here:




  • Emma_MEmma_M Joined: Posts: 7
    It might probably be a silly question to some of you but do you think it's too late to learn martial arts? I am 38, recently separated, teenage kids..life can start all over again..right? Honest opinions please...i mean if it's too late then i might as well just know. Fingers crossed that it is not :)
  • J-rideJ-ride OG Member Joined: Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
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    I think you are never to old to start, though you may be too old for Boxing/MT sparring. I've seen some really technical old man BJJ break the souls of some youngsters.
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  • EmanuelbEmanuelb Joined: Posts: 3,256
    Emma_M wrote: »
    It might probably be a silly question to some of you but do you think it's too late to learn martial arts? I am 38, recently separated, teenage kids..life can start all over again..right? Honest opinions please...i mean if it's too late then i might as well just know. Fingers crossed that it is not :)

    I just started martial arts at 35 years and it was one of the best decisions I took, so you should be fine, too. The first month was really rough for me, untill I adapted, but then things started to get smoother. I might not recommend taekwondo since you need a lot of flexibility there but I picked shotokan karate and I'm very happy.


  • dab00gdab00g Joined: Posts: 20,190
    Omg you are 35? Shit i was giving you a break thinking you were 16

    Wow
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    dab00g wrote: »
    Are you that fuckhead who misses about 5-10 minutes and rolls in at the very end of the warm up?
    Yes and I already grown to fucking hate them. Or even guys who half ass shrimp or don't even do high ones. Like the point is to be as tired, no?
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    Emanuelb wrote: »
    Emma_M wrote: »
    It might probably be a silly question to some of you but do you think it's too late to learn martial arts? I am 38, recently separated, teenage kids..life can start all over again..right? Honest opinions please...i mean if it's too late then i might as well just know. Fingers crossed that it is not :)

    I just started martial arts at 35 years and it was one of the best decisions I took, so you should be fine, too. The first month was really rough for me, untill I adapted, but then things started to get smoother. I might not recommend taekwondo since you need a lot of flexibility there but I picked shotokan karate and I'm very happy.

    Taekwondo will make you flexible. Nobody is going to expect you to kick head height on your first lesson.
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