The Kazuya Mishima Thread

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The first Tekken character to be revealed for this Street Fighter X Tekken, he rivals Ryu in the story and trailers, he uses Ryu to bait Jin.

Specials:

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Some misc. moves
:f:+:mk: is a lunging forward kick, has alot of range on it, similar to Ken's kick without the step forward.
:f::lk: Is his Axe kick
Tatsumaki-like can hit up to 4x, anyone know the notations on this one? is it u/f+:mk:?

Strings

Shining fists, :lp: :lp: :mp:/:hp:?
Entrails Smash :df:+:lp: into extentions, a overhead, and a high kick.
:b:+:lp::mk::hp: his 3 hit combo-string, used for combo-filler.
:lp::mp::lk::mp:? his 4-hit combo string
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  • SlayersliceSlayerslice Joined: Posts: 1,666
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 35,754 mod
    I believe Hell Sweeps should be :qcb:+:k:
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  • GenistarGenistar Master Drayden Joined: Posts: 4,874
    I'll look for the video in a moment but kazuya is able to combo his electric god fist at least 4 times in a row. 3 which are from the ex variant.
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  • melflomilmelflomil Above Average Fighter Joined: Posts: 2,813
    I wonder how many hits his super armor move can take and who else have super armor moves?
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  • GenistarGenistar Master Drayden Joined: Posts: 4,874
    At about 2:22 Kazuya was able to combo his ex move 3 times in a row.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQwS6pIFBzs
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  • Budah96Budah96 Just Starting My Journey Joined: Posts: 359
    Do you guys think Kazuya will be top tier, because from the footage we've seen he looks great.
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    I believe Hell Sweeps should be :qcb:+:k:
    Is that the notation in SF X Tekken?
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  • masked ridermasked rider Henshin! Joined: Posts: 1,219
    Anyone know what kind of properties are on EWGF? Does it hit or whiff crouchers? Safe/unsafe on block?
  • SlayersliceSlayerslice Joined: Posts: 1,666
    Anyone know what kind of properties are on EWGF? Does it hit or whiff crouchers? Safe/unsafe on block?
    It should whiff on crouchers, it's a high move in Tekken, and it should give +frames if they do the Tekken style, but being a launcher and all I don't really know.
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  • masked ridermasked rider Henshin! Joined: Posts: 1,219
    It should whiff on crouchers, it's a high move in Tekken, and it should give +frames if they do the Tekken style, but being a launcher and all I don't really know.
    But then again this is a 2D fighter. Crouch blocking is the default response in SF, unlike Tekken where that would just get you hit by mids and launched all day.

    ff+LK is his axe kick? But wouldn't the ff input result in a dash first?
  • SlayersliceSlayerslice Joined: Posts: 1,666
    But then again this is a 2D fighter. Crouch blocking is the default response in SF, unlike Tekken where that would just get you hit by mids and launched all day.

    ff+LK is his axe kick? But wouldn't the ff input result in a dash first?
    it's probably f+lk, his axe kick is a overhead, looks like Ken's overhead kick. About EWGF, I can't see in the video's if it hits crouchers or not.
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  • SlayersliceSlayerslice Joined: Posts: 1,666
    What I do know is, EWGF can be used as a AA, and if you do the dash into EWGF it goes under certain high moves.
    EWGF does not go over crouching opponents, in my 2nd NCR video around 0:55-0:58 you can see Julia blocking it crouching.
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  • Da StunnaDa Stunna A True Paradox Joined: Posts: 959
    Kazuya's special moves were listed below and were closer to his actual Tekken notations (the mist step moves anyway).

    http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/04/kaznina.jpg

    Misc./Observations

    - EWGF tags crouchers
    - Spin kicks look good for tagging in partner, so for once it's a good move for him to have
    - f+lk should be his f+3
    - overhead axe kick should be f+mk (his f+4 from T6)
    - he has b+mp mk lp (b+2,4,1 from T6)
    - he has both lp lp mp (1,1,2) and lp mp mp (1,2,2)
    - he has lk lp mk (3,1,4 from T6)
    - he has d/f+lk mp lp (d/f+3,2,1 from T6)
    - qcb+lp second hit is an overhead and EX version bounces
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  • SlayersliceSlayerslice Joined: Posts: 1,666
    Kazuya's special moves were listed below and were closer to his actual Tekken notations (the mist step moves anyway).

    http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/04/kaznina.jpg

    Misc./Observations

    - EWGF tags crouchers
    - Spin kicks look good for tagging in partner, so for once it's a good move for him to have
    - f+lk should be his f+3
    - overhead axe kick should be f+mk (his f+4 from T6)
    - he has b+mp mk lp (b+2,4,1 from T6)
    - he has both lp lp mp (1,1,2) and lp mp mp (1,2,2)
    - he has lk lp mk (3,1,4 from T6)
    - he has d/f+lk mp lp (d/f+3,2,1 from T6)
    - qcb+lp second hit is an overhead and EX version bounces
    Thank you very much, that move list I was looking for
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  • SlayersliceSlayerslice Joined: Posts: 1,666
    Could anyone test if you can link 2 or more EWGF's? so, :dp:+:mp:,:dp:+:mp:, :dp:+:mp:
    Then do :df: :lp: :mp: for bound if that is the notation in SF x Tk?
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  • GenistarGenistar Master Drayden Joined: Posts: 4,874
    Here is kazuya's complete special attack list

    SFxtekkenkazuya.png
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  • masked ridermasked rider Henshin! Joined: Posts: 1,219
    I'm not too familiar with his move names, but I'm assuming QCB+K is his u/f+4 series from Tekken. I remember seeing someone burn all their meter doing EX version of his d/f+1,2 a bunch of times in a corner combo, so I'm guessing they made his d/f+1 series his QCB+P moves. And that leaves QCF+P as his d/f+2, which should be obvious since it's the move that people always seem to try first.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 35,754 mod
    Here is kazuya's complete special attack list

    http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l562/Raven226/SFxtekkenkazuya.png
    As your mod (well, one of your mods), let me just clarify that there is no need to put images inside [ spoiler] tags.
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  • GenistarGenistar Master Drayden Joined: Posts: 4,874
    Alright. That saves me the trouble of trying to do the spoiler tags manually.
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  • Luna WarriorLuna Warrior Joined: Posts: 32
    I found this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw5AcmFlIcQ

    Around 30 mins of Kaz gameplay and finally someone does some REAL COMBOS
  • DodekaDodeka Centurion Joined: Posts: 989
    That video was extremely helpful in seeing if his EWGF could be used several times within juggles as well as showing the range on some of his limbs. If nothing changes about the juggling system from now until release then I'm thinking he can at least get two EWGF in plus a slaughter hook(or atleast a slaughter hook between the two EWGF). While it seems like three could even fit in I have a feeling that there will be properties restricting the amount of EWGF's similar to the 2 launcher limit within one combo.
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  • BrennanBrennan IT'S NOT A TUNA! Joined: Posts: 1,011
    I just dropped to say 'hi', since I'll want to play the better version of Kazuya - Kuro himself.

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  • SlayersliceSlayerslice Joined: Posts: 1,666
    I was happy when I saw EWGF substitute the launcher in cost of 1 meter to tag in your other character to continue, and if you tag him again Kazuya can yet come back again and finish it off lol. Pretty insane combo-tools Kazuya has.
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  • ReximusReximus Joined: Posts: 74
    Cant wait to play Kazuya. Hope he has this as his alt costume.
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  • KamTxKamTx Unblockable Arts Joined: Posts: 244
    Kazuya Wavedash Invulnerability

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    Was gonna come post about the wave dash, holy shit, that move is too good lol.
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  • Luna Est CaeruleaLuna Est Caerulea Joined: Posts: 28
    Just got back from NYCC
    Kaz is a combo beast in the corner, just do WGF and then do whatever while they're airborne


    I expect 75% of the stick users to complain about how hard it is to do Mist Step on P1 side quickly
  • masked ridermasked rider Henshin! Joined: Posts: 1,219
    I expect 75% of the stick users to complain about how hard it is to do Mist Step on P1 side quickly
    I grip my stick differently when I play Tekken.

    This will be interesting for me.
  • DarkSephirothDarkSephiroth I am not human! Joined: Posts: 45
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw5AcmFlIcQ
    That combo Kazuya does at 1:52-1:57, is it possible to do super after that ex-attack?
    And if it's possible is it worth it because with a full metter you can also do a combo to cross art?
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  • GenistarGenistar Master Drayden Joined: Posts: 4,874
    Its not possible to do a cross art with that during that combo because he is left with 1 full stock, but if he started with 3 meters he could have either gone for a cross art or a tag art thingy or whatever you call it.
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  • DarkSephirothDarkSephiroth I am not human! Joined: Posts: 45
    Its not possible to do a cross art with that during that combo because he is left with 1 full stock, but if he started with 3 meters he could have either gone for a cross art or a tag art thingy or whatever you call it.

    But if you read my post I asked if Kazuya can do his super (which takes 2 meters) or is it wiser to use 3 meters for cross art...
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    cross arts do about 15% more damage
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  • GenistarGenistar Master Drayden Joined: Posts: 4,874
    But if you read my post I asked if Kazuya can do his super (which takes 2 meters) or is it wiser to use 3 meters for cross art...

    My bad. I'd use the super so if he gets another combo in, he has an extra bar left to extend it.
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  • The Electrifying OneThe Electrifying One Coming4EVO Joined: Posts: 1,282
    c.MP, s.LPx2, C.MK, S.FP XX QCB+PP, C.FP XX QCB+LP, C.FP XX Super or QCB+LP XX Tag

    Flashy Corner combo that does well over 50% for full meter
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    I'm bumping this up so people can find him.
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  • Death By NinesDeath By Nines Voyeur Joined: Posts: 584
    Anyone know if the neutral part of the wavedash will play as huge a part executing it in this game as it does in Tekken?
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  • MightfoMightfo Joined: Posts: 335
    Does his Mist Step have any overheads or moves that end in advantage or some sort of feint for continuing pressure?
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  • Dreadz18xDreadz18x Long hair dont care Joined: Posts: 525
    Valle playing kazuya @ 1:29:00

    http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky/b/309868950

    Jago playing kazuya @ 8:25:20

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  • SlayersliceSlayerslice Joined: Posts: 1,666
    c.MP, s.LPx2, C.MK, S.FP XX QCB+PP, C.FP XX QCB+LP, C.FP XX Super or QCB+LP XX Tag

    Flashy Corner combo that does well over 50% for full meter
    Does that still work in the retail build?

    I will be playing Kazuya/Jin in SFxT as I practiced so much with them in T6, I have some godlike wavedashing skills now with the Mishima's can't wait to try them out.
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  • XShoryuken 26XShoryuken 26 Joined: Posts: 179
    Does that still work in the retail build?

    I will be playing Kazuya/Jin in SFxT as I practiced so much with them in T6, I have some godlike wavedashing skills now with the Mishima's can't wait to try them out.
    it works. but as it is said it's flashy.

    I just got the game today and I have Kazuya as my anchor so I'll drop some combos for you guys.

    Corner only 428 damage: Cr. Strong Cr. Fierce Mist Step Rising Uppercut Cr. Fierce Rising Uppercut Cr Fierce Devastator.

    mid screen 428 damage: Cr. Stribg Cr. Fierce Mist Step Rising Uppercut St. Fierce Ex. Slaughter Hook Cr Fierce Devastator.

    I'm sure there are better ones out there but that's what I've managed for today.
  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 462 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Does Kazuya Fare well against the consistent Top Dogs of SF

    Ryu
    Ken
    Akuma
    Sagat

    and does he fare well against the Two Misimas who always outclass him in the T6?

    Heihachi
    Jin

    in most videos i see his crossrush lead-ins (not including the launcher portion) lead to some devastating mix ups with his (whatsiscalled DF +1,2 wallbounce move) which leads to others.. I do not see the use of a 112 or a B+241..

    I Also Noticed Kaz and Hei share the same Jumping Forward and Roundhouse.. But Hei has both as crossups, I know Kaz's jumping forward is a crossup but is it the same case for his jumping roundhouse? like Hei's?
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    Does Kazuya Fare well against the consistent Top Dogs of SF

    Ryu
    Ken
    Akuma
    Sagat

    and does he fare well against the Two Misimas who always outclass him in the T6?

    Heihachi
    Jin

    in most videos i see his crossrush lead-ins (not including the launcher portion) lead to some devastating mix ups with his (whatsiscalled DF +1,2 wallbounce move) which leads to others.. I do not see the use of a 112 or a B+241..

    I Also Noticed Kaz and Hei share the same Jumping Forward and Roundhouse.. But Hei has both as crossups, I know Kaz's jumping forward is a crossup but is it the same case for his jumping roundhouse? like Hei's?

    He eats fireballs and I think tatsus (not so sure, but mist step is invulnerable to highs and mids) for breakfast and can uppercut into combo for 400+. That's all i know for now. 112 is good for keeping people in check since it knocks down. and B+241 is good for feinting a low, say most people look at legs for lows and all of a sudden it's a punch instead. It's kind of confusing. His 314 chain can lead into a cross rush/ex cancelled move of your choice (best choic is qcb Jab+Strong) which ground bounces.
  • LunaEstFrigida_LunaEstFrigida_ Joined: Posts: 30
    How the hell do you do Mist Step on P1 side quickly
    I can wavedash on P2 side, but P1 side it almost never comes out when I don't do it slowly

    I'm considering just switching ti Heihachi because of this
  • Jordanf1endJordanf1end Joined: Posts: 99
    i've noticed that today wen i was trying to combo st.lp, st.lp cr.hp xx slaughter hook does NOT work unless slaughter hook is EX. can any confirm or is my execution off?
  • The DynastThe Dynast Joined: Posts: 32
    How the hell do you do Mist Step on P1 side quickly
    I can wavedash on P2 side, but P1 side it almost never comes out when I don't do it slowly

    I'm considering just switching ti Heihachi because of this

    Try tapping forward and the doing a half circle forward. It works for me.
    i've noticed that today wen i was trying to combo st.lp, st.lp cr.hp xx slaughter hook does NOT work unless slaughter hook is EX. can any confirm or is my execution off?

    You're chaining the normals. Chains are not special cancelable. They can only be cancelled by EX specials and supers.
  • Rugal 3:16Rugal 3:16 Weisinger's disciple Joined: Posts: 462 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Hmm The 112 while knocks down has little damage, It would be more practical to simply continue a connected Jab into a crossrush.

    BTW is his jumping Roundhouse also an Overhead? since he and Heihachi share the same jumping Forward and Roundhouse animations and Hei's versions are BOTH crossups..
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    "As for Superman and Thor, it's like he said -- where he comes from, the dials go up to eleven. Superman is stronger and faster, which is probably more about the scales of power in the universe he comes from, but it was enough to let him win a very tough battle. If they fought again tomorrow, it might go the other way. Since being more powerful doesn't make you a better character, I don't see it as a slight on Thor, just as the way things are..."
  • EmblemLordEmblemLord Lord of all Lords Joined: Posts: 5,740
    Huh? Ok for the record Kaz was hands down number one in the arcade release of T6. He got nerfed in the rebalance.

    Second to other Mishimas my ASS!!!

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