The Raven Thread

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General discussion for Raven, the ninja badass who made his debut in Tekken 5. Movelist, vids and general informaition will be updated as more information gets revealed.

Movelist:

:qcf::p: - Crossed Ninja Stars (Air OK)


Raven throws a shuriken horizontally across the screen. Each strength makes it travel slightly faster. EX version goes very fast and puts enemy in a juggle state.


:qcb::p: - Wind Cross

Raven dashes forward and slashes. On block, Raven appears directly behind his opponent, but is unsafe. EX version makes Raven slash 3 times, the third slash knocking your opponent upwards. Great for Switch Cancels. The EX version also sends Raven away from the opponent if guarded, making it slightly safer.

:qcf::k: - Alter Ego

strength determines followup. :lk: = Low hit. :mk: = Overhead. :hk: = Low with a high fake out.
Raven does a cool looking teleport into a kick.

:dp:/:rdp: 3:p: or 3:k:- Haze


Raven's teleport. The punch version will move Raven forward, the kick version backwards. Motion also determines how far the teleport will reach.

Notable normals:

:b::mk:, :mk: Skull Smasher. A two hit kicking normal. The second hit is overhead and floor bounces. You can also go into a low hit by doing :hk: after the :b::mk:. This variation knocks the opponent down.

:f::mk: A two hit command normal.



Raven Super Art and Cross Art:

:qcb:+ 3 :p:- Doppelgänger (Super Art)



Character basic walkthrough with LPN:

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jak d ripr wrote: »
That shit had me in stitches. Nigga went for all these flashy set-ups and doom was like hold these boots.
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  • JocelotJocelot Don't give up! Joined: Posts: 5,310
    Reserved, just in case.
    Party Robot!!
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    jak d ripr wrote: »
    That shit had me in stitches. Nigga went for all these flashy set-ups and doom was like hold these boots.
  • JocelotJocelot Don't give up! Joined: Posts: 5,310
    Reserved... easy enough.
    Party Robot!!
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    jak d ripr wrote: »
    That shit had me in stitches. Nigga went for all these flashy set-ups and doom was like hold these boots.
  • Budah96Budah96 Just Starting My Journey Joined: Posts: 359
    http://m.youtube.com/#/profile?user=Larlusthx&v=tLWwFhi3M04&view=videos

    Just a couple of dudes testing out the moves. Hugo and Ravens tag super is also there.

    http://m.youtube.com/#/profile?user=Larlusthx&v=kbTmI4cBpCg&view=videos

    Just some more gameplay
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  • JocelotJocelot Don't give up! Joined: Posts: 5,310
    In this Gamespot interview, Ono mentions Raven plays kinda like a mix of Cammy and Fei Long.

    http://gamescom.gamespot.com/story/6329911/gamescom-2011-street-fighter-x-tekken-hands-on-preview

    Pretty cool comparison. They also said Raven is super good right now and faced the most balancing. 1 word. Bad a-

    ...badass.
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    jak d ripr wrote: »
    That shit had me in stitches. Nigga went for all these flashy set-ups and doom was like hold these boots.
  • Budah96Budah96 Just Starting My Journey Joined: Posts: 359
    I think Raven does look great now. In the trailers him and Yoshi were doing some very nasty things. Can't wait to see more of Wesker...I mean Raven =]
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  • CriminalUpperCriminalUpper =D Joined: Posts: 3,024
    Known moves so far:

    QCF+P - Shuriken throw
    j.QCF+P - Air Shuriken (Travels horizontally)
    HCB+P - Ninja slash (I'm guessing that strength pressed determines either damage or distance traveled, EX version does the triple slash shown in the gameplay trailer)
    HCF+K - Teleport attacks (strength determines followup. LK = Low hit. MK = Overhead. HK = unknown, looks like the overhead version, probably his double vision attack)
  • JocelotJocelot Don't give up! Joined: Posts: 5,310
    I think Raven does look great now. In the trailers him and Yoshi were doing some very nasty things. Can't wait to see more of Wesker...I mean Raven =]

    Lol, I though the same thing. The guy is cool like Wesker. Slick, black suit. Sunglasses (even at night). Voiced by DC Douglas. Too good. Definitely gonna give him a whirl day 1.
    Known moves so far:

    QCF+P - Shuriken throw
    j.QCF+P - Air Shuriken (Travels horizontally)
    HCB+P - Ninja slash (I'm guessing that strength pressed determines either damage or distance traveled, EX version does the triple slash shown in the gameplay trailer)
    HCF+K - Teleport attacks (strength determines followup. LK = Low hit. MK = Overhead. HK = unknown, looks like the overhead version, probably his double vision attack)

    Awesome, thanks broham. I'll put this in the first post.
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    jak d ripr wrote: »
    That shit had me in stitches. Nigga went for all these flashy set-ups and doom was like hold these boots.
  • Budah96Budah96 Just Starting My Journey Joined: Posts: 359
    I'm gonna try him out with Ibuki because she's my SF4 main
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  • CriminalUpperCriminalUpper =D Joined: Posts: 3,024
    I think Raven does look great now. In the trailers him and Yoshi were doing some very nasty things. Can't wait to see more of Wesker...I mean Raven =]

    Raven and Yoshi looked like freakin BFFs in the trailers, even though the combos they were pulling off aren't possible outside of training, it gives an idea of how they'll link up. Unless they reveal Armor King or something, I'll be maining both of them at least for the first few days
  • ironboy89ironboy89 Beep Boop Beep Joined: Posts: 4,664
    I think the best part about Raven's design in this game is that it's nothing identical to his Tekken's gameplay. Capcom can give Raven moves that couldn't be viable in Tekken. He is actually one of the few Tekken character that play more like a street fighter character.

    Which is pretty fucking cool in my opinion.
  • Budah96Budah96 Just Starting My Journey Joined: Posts: 359
    Raven and Yoshi looked like freakin BFFs in the trailers, even though the combos they were pulling off aren't possible outside of training, it gives an idea of how they'll link up. Unless they reveal Armor King or something, I'll be maining both of them at least for the first few days
    I kno they were doing such cool combos, and when we get out hands on them and make the practical they will be stunning. I might try Raven day 1 but for sure Yoshi Ibuki and Hwoarang.
    I think the best part about Raven's design in this game is that it's nothing identical to his Tekken's gameplay. Capcom can give Raven moves that couldn't be viable in Tekken. He is actually one of the few Tekken character that play more like a street fighter character.

    Which is pretty fucking cool in my opinion.
    I agree I think it's great that they re-tooled him to be similar to a Street Fighter character, now if they do it with anybody else that would be nice.
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  • Budah96Budah96 Just Starting My Journey Joined: Posts: 359
    Everytime I see Raven gameplay it's always with Kuma or Hugo...any thoughts as to why, well besides the fact that people like them and wanna try them out.
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  • Da StunnaDa Stunna A True Paradox Joined: Posts: 1,085
    I'm glad they put Raven in the game, though. Dude has an original design and needs some exposure.
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  • esploveresplover Joined: Posts: 33
    Looks like a boss to me. I've always been more of a Tekken than a Street Fighter fan as far as characters go, but I haven't enjoyed a Tekken game since the PS2 ones. This game looks like a day one purchase for me though.
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  • TrgamemasTrgamemas The man of Faith Joined: Posts: 202
    Raven is gonna be so sick. Just please, gives us his alt, the one in the traditional ninja suit. Mained. Day 1. Errday.
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  • NaokiB4UNaokiB4U Joined: Posts: 1,291
    Thought I'd chime in since I'm watching the stream from PAX right now and will be checking the game out at PAX later this weekend. From what I'm seeing Raven has ASS health. 1 tag combo takes 50% or more of his health as opposed to the rest of the cast who can survive it no problems. It also seems like Raven is essentially Tekken's glass cannon. His damage is decent but its the fact that he can combo so much and into so many things (at least from what im seeing right now) that makes him such a threat. They were talking about the right way to balance him, I think Ono mentioned he was kinda broken in one way or another. I think he takes too much damage right now but I don't know his full combo potential yet so we'll see.
  • JocelotJocelot Don't give up! Joined: Posts: 5,310
    Yeah, I'm kidna getting a (CGoH) Karas vibe off Raven. Can combo you to hell and back, great great set ups, great everything, and the only way to keep him fair is give him crap health.
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    Now my head can spin. I'll be around for a million years, so let the party begin.
    jak d ripr wrote: »
    That shit had me in stitches. Nigga went for all these flashy set-ups and doom was like hold these boots.
  • Viciou$Viciou$ I'm not finished yet! Joined: Posts: 232
    Finally, a game where Raven isn't bad. Playing Raven/Guy
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  • PlatinumBDPlatinumBD Joined: Posts: 786
    I may consider maining Raven. I've had a weird attraction towards ninjas lately, they intrigue me more recently. If Jin enters he will definately be a main of mine since he's my Tekken 6 main, but Vega most likely won't make this game, so I need a ninja-replacement xD
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  • JocelotJocelot Don't give up! Joined: Posts: 5,310

    Cool, thanks brobert. I wonder if Raven can cancel his jumping moves into air shuriken/EX air shuriken. Would be sweet.
    Party Robot!!
    Now my head can spin. I'll be around for a million years, so let the party begin.
    jak d ripr wrote: »
    That shit had me in stitches. Nigga went for all these flashy set-ups and doom was like hold these boots.
  • CriminalUpperCriminalUpper =D Joined: Posts: 3,024
    Nice to see people playing who kinda know what they are doing. I hope his air shuriken has some practical use

    In any case I'll likely be going to GAMEfest here in the UK in a couple weeks, Capcom is bringing the game over so I'll be looking to explore the usefulness of that among other stuff. I'll probably be taking some requests also. That's if anyone wants me to find out anything Raven specific for them
  • therooktherook I Challenge My Fate! Joined: Posts: 3,458
    alright i got around to talking about this man, Raven~
    there is only a few things i can note about him considering i didnt play him for very long...=_=
    his moves are flashy as they can be, and hes pretty fast. his normals are just as awkward in this game as they are in Tekken. but thats ok, because he can get around the stage like nothing. his super does good damage but it isnt a beast like Steve's...but it does look awesome.
    lastly it mite have been me but he seems to have alittle below average health, or those Kazuya combos just hurt...period.
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  • melflomilmelflomil Above Average Fighter Joined: Posts: 2,813
    alright i got around to talking about this man, Raven~
    there is only a few things i can note about him considering i didnt play him for very long...=_=
    his moves are flashy as they can be, and hes pretty fast. his normals are just as awkward in this game as they are in Tekken. but thats ok, because he can get around the stage like nothing. his super does good damage but it isnt a beast like Steve's...but it does look awesome.
    lastly it mite have been me but he seems to have alittle below average health, or those Kazuya combos just hurt...period.
    Seth did say he was a glass cannon because he is extremely OP in the gamescon build (guess he means extremely offensive)
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  • VyomeshVyomesh Joined: Posts: 590
    Seth did say he was a glass cannon because he is extremely OP in the gamescon build (guess he means extremely offensive)
    Oh yeah. I played the game at Gamescom and Raven is ridiculous in that build.
  • therooktherook I Challenge My Fate! Joined: Posts: 3,458
    i just dont know raven in T6 so i didnt know what to do with him in SFxTK either~ so i was just getting a feel for the character~ hes cool though.
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  • ironboy89ironboy89 Beep Boop Beep Joined: Posts: 4,664
    If Raven is a Glass Cannon then going by Capcom's predictable design philosophy...

    - He will have low health
    - He will have a lot of good tools on paper.
    - He will play like the Seth/Akuma/Yun archtype. Meaning he is really, really, really good, but you can't fuck up.
  • Budah96Budah96 Just Starting My Journey Joined: Posts: 359
    If Raven is a Glass Cannon then going by Capcom's predictable design philosophy...

    - He will have low health
    - He will have a lot of good tools on paper.
    - He will play like the Seth/Akuma/Yun archtype. Meaning he is really, really, really good, but you can't fuck up.
    That sounds about right from some of the gameplay Ive seen
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  • melflomilmelflomil Above Average Fighter Joined: Posts: 2,813
    If Raven is a Glass Cannon then going by Capcom's predictable design philosophy...

    - He will have low health
    - He will have a lot of good tools on paper.
    - He will play like the Seth/Akuma/Yun archtype. Meaning he is really, really, really good, but you can't fuck up.
    Don't forget his damage output might be retarded
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  • Bryanv2Bryanv2 BryanJ Joined: Posts: 1,646
    Raven is gonna be so sick. Just please, gives us his alt, the one in the traditional ninja suit. Mained. Day 1. Errday.

    Took the words right out my mouth. Raven's so sick..Maining all day errrrrday. Sooo surprised when I saw he was in the game, didn't know he was highly requested. (Btw; people are so weird like that..like NO ONE played Raven in T6 but he was highly requested... I was like the only Raven ive ever met lol :|)

    He has low HP? Idc, my favorite characters at the moment have crap HP anyways lol. Seth Akuma Ibuki.

    ''- He will play like the Seth/Akuma/Yun archtype. Meaning he is really, really, really good, but you can't fuck up.'' Just the way I like it :D Means not everyone will just play him even if he's top..but that doesn't mean he won't be effective. Unless you can Mash out reversals..then I'll be sad again. Oh and im still sad I wasn't fast enough to make the Raven thread lol
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  • Joe YabukiJoe Yabuki Murcielago Joined: Posts: 1,280
    Yeah, I'm kidna getting a (CGoH) Karas vibe off Raven. Can combo you to hell and back, great great set ups, great everything, and the only way to keep him fair is give him crap health.
    Karas??? :love:

    Counte me in for the Raven hype train.

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  • melflomilmelflomil Above Average Fighter Joined: Posts: 2,813
    from the video's looks like he doesn't have a get hell off me move or im getting the hell away from you move.
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  • Budah96Budah96 Just Starting My Journey Joined: Posts: 359
    from the video's looks like he doesn't have a get hell off me move or im getting the hell away from you move.
    His teleport?
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    His teleport?
    doesn't his teleport attack though? And no one knows if it has invincibility on start up
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  • Budah96Budah96 Just Starting My Journey Joined: Posts: 359
    No, I dont think it does because in the gameplay trailer he teleports through the opponent to get to the other side while Yoshi does his low kicks. I think the move your thinking about is the one where he goes through them and slashes.
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  • JocelotJocelot Don't give up! Joined: Posts: 5,310
    Jeah, Raven has a tele-slash and what appears to be a normal teleport/command dash:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYWJUM1TMRs#t=1m33s

    Looks like Raven teleported to the other side of his opponent during Yoshimitsu's Switch Cancel without the follow up slashes (also, his aura while dashing is a different color).
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    That shit had me in stitches. Nigga went for all these flashy set-ups and doom was like hold these boots.
  • ironboy89ironboy89 Beep Boop Beep Joined: Posts: 4,664
    Looks like Raven could be a sleeping giant for the Tekken cast because nobody would ever guess that Raven would be really good in a capcom game.
  • CriminalUpperCriminalUpper =D Joined: Posts: 3,024
    Just got done playing the crap out of Raven, well, as much as I could anyway

    A quick clarification for his movelist. His teleport kick is done with qcf+k not hcf+k. I only used them mid-combo so I'm still iffy on the properties though I'm certain the light version still hits low. Light version is probably best in combos since it's consistent from ground combos, juggles and in the corner. The Hard kick version could possibly be a good option but I stopped using it after I screwed up a couple times

    His air shuriken can be TK'd. It seemed TKing it made it a lot more useful since he's safer than doing the ground version, after making someone block a shuriken at a certain distance I was able to get a free jump-in. I was unsure if my opp. had time to anti-air but it felt legit

    He has a couple command normals, though I can only remember one which I think is f+MK>MK (I may be incorrect since it was so long ago) it's his u/f+4,4 double spin kick in the Tekken games. It's a decent move to Tag Cancel, used it both to save Raven's ass and keep the pressure on which worked out nicely. He had another one which was his b+4,4 in the Tekken games but I only spotted it once and got interrupted before I could finish the string, didn't know how I achieved it

    Few general things, j.MK crosses up consistently, his backdash goes a nice distance, I heard someone say it was ass but it was pretty good when I used it. I just couldn't find a way to start self juggles without tagging, his ninja slash looked like it would work but it recovered just a little too slow to follow up without a tag cancel. c.MK has good range and goes under some attacks, I just used it to punish everything, whiffed throws, blocked launchers, unsafe crap, worked everytime.

    Oh and Raven = godlike
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    Might be wierd, but how was his walkspeed? Back and forward.
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