The Razer Arcade Stick Thread!

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  • NoodlzNoodlz $$Billz yall Joined: Posts: 331
    I think the stick is WIRED

    Any ways MS don't lisence non MS controllers to be wireless.
    all 3rd party sticks and pads are wired

    Yeah...i know they'll probably stick to having it wired. Although there are 3rd party wireless sticks tho (Tekken 6 wireless stick for example)
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,307
    Yeah...i know they'll probably stick to having it wired. Although there are 3rd party wireless sticks tho (Tekken 6 wireless stick for example)
    The Tekken 6 wireless isn't a good example if you are promoting 3rd party wireless controllers for the Xbox 360.
    I don't see anything here making this a huge step up from what we already have. Nothing special about the button layout, same design as a TE, just nothing stands out. The only good thing about this is the hydraulic hinged lid that should make modding extremely easy, and possibly able to do on the fly if you need to. Having to unscrew a ton of screws in the HRAP is a pain in the ass, and this looks to make it super simple. The parts look like standard Sanwa or knock offs. I can't really stand Sanwa buttons or the JLF, just not my thing. Wish they'd look into doing Seimitsu as well.
    Well once it hits retail, you can always easily mod the arcade stick to be seimitsu
    Any Seimtsu stick model ending in a -01 and the correct mount plate would work and any 30 mm push buttons.
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 37,144 mod
    From those pics, I have a feeling that the top panel is going to need more support.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,307
    From those pics, I have a feeling that the top panel is going to need more support.
    I thinking its just a Quick and dirty CG mock up and the actual stick got some structural supports
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  • mr.mortifiedmr.mortified A man behind a desk Joined: Posts: 3,044
    the internals look like it has enough support when its fully rested down though

    when its lifted is an entirely diffrent story
    and is it just me or is that top panel teasing me with what could be a plexi option
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,307
    the internals look like it has enough support when its fully rested down though

    when its lifted is an entirely diffrent story
    and is it just me or is that top panel teasing me with what could be a plexi option
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  • AmpAmp Joined: Posts: 533
    [...] I'd like to request from you folks that, unless you're a known modder, builder, regular on the TT forums, please don't just apply to the beta in the hopes of getting a free beta stick.
    [...]
    And not all you guys deserve to even test one out.
    Just the Modders and Builders.

    Look, I love you guys, but could you possibly have worded those posts any more like elitist "SUPER SECRET TREEHOUSE CLUB" assholes?
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  • speedsterharryspeedsterharry Joined: Posts: 786
    Two ideas to improve on previous designs:
    - Have the PCB common ground AND all the signals accessible for dual-modding (with an IDC connector or spade connectors). Or PS3/Xbox360 compatible out of the box.
    - Have a cord compartiment just like the TE or (better) the VLX. I don't think Razer has this in their prototype, judging from the pictures.

    The case itself is pretty boring, but if it works.... Ah, and please put some stainless screws, I saw too many TEs with rusted screws !
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,307
    Look, I love you guys, but could you possibly have worded those posts any more like elitist "SUPER SECRET TREEHOUSE CLUB" assholes?
    Hey I went though 10 years at Cambridge to earn my PhD in Ass-hole-ology and become a professional Ass hole. We even have an Post graduate exam you have to pass, like how Lawyers have to pass the Bar Exam.

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  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,832
    NO!
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,307
    NO!
    It is my way of saying, chill its the internet.
    Any ways regardless of what we do or not do we can't completely influence Razer to only select people we want.
    And even if we able to influence there decisions , that is Razor's business to do so.
    And I doubt any one getting a free stick, more than likely we got to send it back when we are done or pay for the stick.
    Even if we get to keep the stick with out paying a cent, we still have to work on earning that stick in write -ups and feed back.

    I remember from beta testing some games, you have to contractually write a several page report on your findings.

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  • RoboKrikitRoboKrikit nuclear Joined: Posts: 1,943
    Being a titty hole is cooler.

    I think this stick is gonna be expensive, what with all the royalties they will have to give to Mad Catz. :[
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,307
    Being a titty hole is cooler.

    I think this stick is gonna be expensive, what with all the royalties they will have to give to Mad Catz. :[
    Well will see :wgrin:
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  • ArxinalArxinal CountAntonius Joined: Posts: 367
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  • MnoMno 哈哈哈 Joined: Posts: 2,322
    Why shouldn't anyone be excited?

    This kind of involvement and recognition is healthy for the community.
    i hate video games.
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  • rtdzignrtdzign Joined: Posts: 5,176
    yep they already done fucked up with the custom button plugs not compatible with Seimitsu.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 24,307
    yep they already done fucked up with the custom button plugs not compatible with Seimitsu.
    Real modders just change the QDs
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  • RoboKrikitRoboKrikit nuclear Joined: Posts: 1,943
    Hahah, I thought that was just in the mockup. It's a neat idea, but yeah, that is not gonna work with Seimitsu switches. Maybe they'll have a Seimitsu harness or something.

    What's the turbo panel look like on the real stick?

    Is there enough room inside for Sanwa RG switches or anything but stock Sanwa/Seimitsu? It looked pretty tight in there.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 37,144 mod
    FAIL!

    Worst part is that if they're tight, then they're gonna be hell to remove seeing as you ahve to take both QDs out at the same time. Use a bit too much strength and hello bent prongs.
  • ArxinalArxinal CountAntonius Joined: Posts: 367
    He's reading
    will check it out. I do visit often (you'll realize from the prototype that it's already taken in a lot of feedback from the site) :)
    Do keep the feedback coming. We want to perfect the stick.
    I see some concerns abt legal stuff. I'm fine with mods on it. My plane is taking off, will have my team follow up shortly.
    Let's get some feedback going.
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  • lolmarklolmark Joined: Posts: 237
    Love the look of the quick connects but definitely a bit overengineered, especially if you want to drop in Seimitsu buttons. The 3D render shows off extra compartments in the interior, which I think are for buttons and plugs, but I'm not sure how you'd fit them. -PS. I really want a beta stick :3
  • AmpAmp Joined: Posts: 533
    Reposted from the TTT Panel Thread:

    I wonder how easy it would be to convince them to provide "extra" PCB mounting supports, with nothing mounted of course, for purposes of Dual-Modding, or LED modding, etc.

    Kinda like the idea people had for the extra solder/terminal points, but more for physical space to put our extra PCB's.
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  • jdm714jdm714 Blue Blue Glass Moon Joined: Posts: 12,832
    This would basically turn the ability to "pre-engineer" something for it violation of the terms. So let's say Toodles or I create a board to mate to it... before it's even released to the public, then there's a bit of a problem. This means even if we come out with something afterward we can still be in violation because we had certain knowledge prior to release.

    However, this would mean that we could put insight into things such as "you should add x and y" which would allow easy interface to something already out there, so perhaps lean them toward giving standoffs that they don't use but are in prime position for mounting extra hardware.

    Perhaps a consult with @UltraDavid is in order when this comes about.
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  • networkingyuppynetworkingyuppy RandoMadness. Joined: Posts: 2,322 mod
    Pneumatic Panels. :/

    It resembles much like a TE, including the top left turbo control panel, and the design for the overall controller build and shape should be completely revised if they're going to market that out to the public.

    Since the design is very similar to a TE, this can bring up some arising issues and possibly a lawsuit due to similar arcade hardware engineering. To be honest, Razer should recruit more members in the R&D department to come up with a better idea. The concept of this design is way too common today.
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  • networkingyuppynetworkingyuppy RandoMadness. Joined: Posts: 2,322 mod
    Those QD is only compatible with Sanwas only. Seimitsus stay sad.
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  • KyleKyle PS-14-Gangsta Joined: Posts: 4,735 mod
    Since the design is very similar to a TE, this can bring up some arising issues and possibly a lawsuit due to similar arcade hardware engineering. To be honest, Razer should recruit more members in the R&D department to come up with a better idea. The concept of this design is way too common today.
    This. I was hoping they would bring something interesting to the mix - even as simple as LED buttons. The crazy, non PS-14-G compatible QDs mean we can't be friends.
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  • mr.mortifiedmr.mortified A man behind a desk Joined: Posts: 3,044
    from the press pics, you can see that it does use a quick disconnect usb.

    it just uses the usb A input rather than the less common and more sturdy usb b input
    pretty meh, but at least its better than micro usb
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  • ScaffaScaffa Joined: Posts: 182
    I'm not "well known", but I actually understand that a beta test is for feedback from varying levels of expertise in both playing and modding ability. Therefor I applied, because although I may not be good with a soldering iron or multi-meter, I know that at this stage of the product cycle a beta test wants answers to questions like "How comfortable is it?" - "Was it easy to change a button?" and not "How easy was it to dual mod?". One day though hopefully I can be a super sekkrit squirrel.

    Anyways,

    Seeing as the product is looking to be a modular design so they can hang on to the aftermarket mods (swap out to a different panel, manufactured by Razer rather than third party according to the video), it wouldn't be convoluted to expect a special seimitsu harness available in their store.
  • networkingyuppynetworkingyuppy RandoMadness. Joined: Posts: 2,322 mod
    This. I was hoping they would bring something interesting to the mix - even as simple as LED buttons. The crazy, non PS-14-G compatible QDs mean we can't be friends.
    Silly straight housing. Now if only they made zigzag plastic housings for those QDs to get those PS-14 compatible. I'm kidding, maybe just ditch the whole idea of having those and just leave the .110 bare :P
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  • EcKo Zero CoolEcKo Zero Cool lolz Joined: Posts: 802
    razer have some very nice pc gear from what i have seen. from there keyboards to there headsets.
    if the stick is anything like them it should be good.
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  • fokkusuhaundofokkusuhaundo Joined: Posts: 659
    Here's a nice photo gallery of the stick: http://www.engadget.com/photos/razers-unnamed-mod-friendly-fight-stick-first-look/#4451311

    They should change the turbo panel to at least not look like a Mad Catz knockoff, even if the build quality ends up being better than Mad Catz. Perhaps Razer was trying to be nice and designed the stick to be compatible with existing TE art and plexi templates.
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  • mr.mortifiedmr.mortified A man behind a desk Joined: Posts: 3,044
    still wondering how this thing opens

    looks like its a spring latch underneath the razer emblem
    also if that hydraulics push out and that spring latch breaks....
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  • fokkusuhaundofokkusuhaundo Joined: Posts: 659
    I can understand the reasoning behind using the custom QD housing since the wires aren't color-coded, but using color-coded wires and individual QD sleeves is still the better way to go.
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  • The_ThirdThe_Third Poverty Gamer Joined: Posts: 1,009
    still wondering how this thing opens

    looks like its a spring latch underneath the razer emblem
    also if that hydraulics push out and that spring latch breaks....

    Watch the engadget video.
  • CSword123CSword123 oh god OHGOD! why did I think this was a good idea? please... just- I'M SORRY!! Joined: Posts: 1,214
    Bat top holder is awesome.

    If Happ/Il buttons fit in this thing, that would be the perfect middle ground for people who like the slim size of TE but prefer MK Layout with American parts.
    I can understand the reasoning behind using the custom QD housing since the wires aren't color-coded, but using color-coded wires and individual QD sleeves is still the better way to go.

    Well this is from a mainly PC gaming company. If they put a liquid cooling system in this stick for purely aesthetic reasons, I wouldn't be surprised. ;)
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  • mr.mortifiedmr.mortified A man behind a desk Joined: Posts: 3,044
    Watch the engadget video.

    i would have earlier but i was in class
    so its definitely a spring latch and that thing that looks like hydraulics is more like a stick that holds it up like a car hood
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