The Razer Arcade Stick Thread!

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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 20,285
    Neccros wrote: »
    Got lucky and picked up a less than 1 month old Xbone Atrox cheap... With a Brook board, what is the preferred mod method? Rip out stock PCB and wires and start new, or hack whats there and integrate? Sorry for the dumb questions, new to modding, not new to fight sticks.

    Just take out the old board, get some new fresh wire encase you want to revert back and start fresh.
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  • NeccrosNeccros Joined: Posts: 104
    this will be my first mod ever but what is the gauge of wire and size of blade connectors used on the buttons?
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 20,285
    edited January 27
    Neccros wrote: »
    this will be my first mod ever but what is the gauge of wire and size of blade connectors used on the buttons?

    If you are new at modding, I recomend the premade, precrimp wires. Make each button a different color wire, this will make insulation easier.
    Also consider getting the pre-made daisy chain ground wire and a joystick wire harness. Daisy chain grounds make it less clutter and you only need one wire going back to a ground terminal.

    Japanese style buttons use .110 sized connectors, .187 is for American style buttons and joysticks that don't use the 5 pin wire harness

    For wire gauge anywhere between 22 and 28 gauge is fine, 30 is getting a bit thin for work.
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  • RageousXRageousX Joined: Posts: 390
    Stuff like this:

    https://paradisearcadeshop.com/525-wire-sets

    The 10-connection daisy chain wire is pretty convenient for ground, since that's your 8 face buttons + start/select. Then get the 16-wire rainbow pack and go ham.
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  • onyxmethonyxmeth Joined: Posts: 71
    Has anyone attempted the panel removal on the Panthera yet? I picked one up during the half off sale, and I was thinking of taking a crack at it this weekend. If anyone was successful or even unsuccessful at it, I'd appreciate the help navigating through the woods, otherwise I will try to take pictures along the way to hopefully help others in the future.
  • NeccrosNeccros Joined: Posts: 104
    This might of been discussed, but whats the chance MS will ever release drivers so the Atrox fully works in Windows? (RT + LT)
  • TenshoTensho Joined: Posts: 2,855
    If they haven't by now then probably never.
  • RageousXRageousX Joined: Posts: 390
    In retrospect I'm shocked -- SHOCKED, I SAY -- that the Panthera somehow made it to market without the famed Razer "Chroma" treatment... RGB pushbuttons programmable through Synapse, Mamba-style rainbow wave around the edges. @MarkMan, what gives?
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  • NeccrosNeccros Joined: Posts: 104
    Im trying to figure out the best method of wiring the Xbox One lock switch/LED panel to a Brook board with all the headers. Can anyone shed some light how they did theirs?
  • AkshenAkshen Joined: Posts: 62
    edited January 30
    RageousX wrote: »
    In retrospect I'm shocked -- SHOCKED, I SAY -- that the Panthera somehow made it to market without the famed Razer "Chroma" treatment... RGB pushbuttons programmable through Synapse, Mamba-style rainbow wave around the edges. @MarkMan, what gives?

    That's not as simple as you would think. Razer would have to engineer their own LED circuit boards that could fit in or around clear sanwa buttons, then write their own code to make synapse compatible with said boards. Something like that would most likely cause the price of the stick to rise quite a bit. MadCatz's TE2 LED board is sort of exempt from this due to the fact that they are just white LEDs with either an ON/OFF function.
  • RageousXRageousX Joined: Posts: 390
    Akshen wrote: »
    That's not as simple as you would think. Razer would have to engineer their own LED circuit boards that could fit in or around clear sanwa buttons, then write their own code to make synapse compatible with said boards. Something like that would most likely cause the price of the stick to rise quite a bit. MadCatz's TE2 LED board is sort of exempt from this due to the fact that they are just white LEDs with either an ON/OFF function.

    Razer's got the in-house chops to make it far more trivial of a process than most places (they pretty much own their keyboard production keyswitch line at this point, and aren't even going through Kailh anymore). Hell, they were giving away cycling RGB switches at E3 last year for shits and giggles. If Paradise Arcade and Jasen's Customs can design in-house boards with LEDs mounted, Razer could easily do the same. Especially on a stick like the Panthera, which is designed never to deviate from the stock layout. They have just about everything in Synapse at this point - I can't imagine that being all that difficult either. Even the Firefly mouse mat is supported by Synapse.
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  • perilXperilX Joined: Posts: 61
    So I took the plexi off my Panthera. It comes off pretty clean with the art intact. The glue holding it on isn't particularly strong. Just have to be careful to not pry up the plexi and crack it. I just started sliding stuff under it.

    Judging from the panel underneath, you certainly could use your own art if you drilled the plexi and swapped out the existing screws. It looks like they've done that for the Lupe Fiasco stick here:
    C5OuDfRUcAAp1F4.png

    I'm going to see about getting some other plexi made in a different color. I could probably remove the existing artwork from the plexi with some sort of solvent, though. Looks like a big white sticker with printing on it.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 34,719 mod
    edited March 8
    Firmware update for the Panthera is out.

    For anyone who has issues with input lag, this is a must download.

    @MarkMan has confirmed that their internal testing has shown to bring the lag down to an average of 3ms compared to 10ms with the older firmware. We've performed our own testing (which you can see here) that confirms this as well.
    Post edited by d3v on
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  • brainfraudbrainfraud Joined: Posts: 157
    edited March 8
    Sorry to be a pain but I cant get the firmware to install. To be clear I've never installed anything on PS4 via Flash Drive that said I figured it be much easier than it has been in this particular case.

    Google told me to create folders (PS4, UPDATE, PS4UPDATE.PUP), it is indeed formatted in Fat32. I've restarted the system with and without the drive plugged in, I booted it up in Safe Mode.

    No idea whats going on to be honest, I've got no notification that an update took place.


    Any help would be appreciated.

  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 34,719 mod
    edited March 8
    brainfraud wrote: »
    Sorry to be a pain but I cant get the firmware to install. To be clear I've never installed anything on PS4 via Flash Drive that said I figured it be much easier than it has been in this particular case.

    Google told me to create folders (PS4, UPDATE, PS4UPDATE.PUP), it is indeed formatted in Fat32. I've restarted the system with and without the drive plugged in, I booted it up in Safe Mode.

    No idea whats going on to be honest, I've got no notification that an update took place.


    Any help would be appreciated.
    You're supposed to install the firmware in the Panthera, not the PS4.

    Run the firmware on PC and it should provide instructions. Basically, run the firmware updater, set the Panthera to PS4, press and hold Circle and R1, then plug it into the computer.

    CW7sIgc.jpg
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
    -Mike_Z

    Everyone (should) be mindful that if there isn't a new generation after my generation, the FGC (fighting game community) will basically become extinct, so it's important to think about the future.
    -Daigo Umehara

  • hyperheavywinghyperheavywing Joined: Posts: 19
    I hate Razer do nothing for XB1 Atrox, they don't fix the 6 button and no update what so ever
  • DubonDubon Joined: Posts: 406
    Not every pcb is can be flashed with new fw. In fact afaik the panthera is the first retail stick to support fw upgrade.
    The 6 button issue needs to be fixed by Microsoft.
  • brainfraudbrainfraud Joined: Posts: 157
    d3v wrote: »
    brainfraud wrote: »
    Sorry to be a pain but I cant get the firmware to install. To be clear I've never installed anything on PS4 via Flash Drive that said I figured it be much easier than it has been in this particular case.

    Google told me to create folders (PS4, UPDATE, PS4UPDATE.PUP), it is indeed formatted in Fat32. I've restarted the system with and without the drive plugged in, I booted it up in Safe Mode.

    No idea whats going on to be honest, I've got no notification that an update took place.


    Any help would be appreciated.
    You're supposed to install the firmware in the Panthera, not the PS4.

    Run the firmware on PC and it should provide instructions. Basically, run the firmware updater, set the Panthera to PS4, press and hold Circle and R1, then plug it into the computer.

    CW7sIgc.jpg

    Alright thank you, had no idea you installed it that way. Didn't realize you had to open anything on the PC, I was on Mac and just assumed you transferred it to PS4 and it auto installed or some shit.

  • airdoojieairdoojie Joined: Posts: 22
    perilX wrote: »
    So I took the plexi off my Panthera. It comes off pretty clean with the art intact. The glue holding it on isn't particularly strong. Just have to be careful to not pry up the plexi and crack it. I just started sliding stuff under it.

    Judging from the panel underneath, you certainly could use your own art if you drilled the plexi and swapped out the existing screws. It looks like they've done that for the Lupe Fiasco stick here:
    C5OuDfRUcAAp1F4.png

    I'm going to see about getting some other plexi made in a different color. I could probably remove the existing artwork from the plexi with some sort of solvent, though. Looks like a big white sticker with printing on it.

    Any updates on your plexi experimentation with the Panthera?
  • SayerSayer Joined: Posts: 1
    Hey,

    I'm planning on modding my Atrox with the UFB and I'm going to add extra buttons to the left of the stick for L3/R3/etc. I plan to buy the UFB with headers so I can have a full solderless system. I've already bought a pack of JST headers and crimps, main issue I'm having is crimping the wire. I keep crushing the metal crimps. I have the same crimper as used in the slagcoin guide. Is there a more robust and quality crimper that isn't too expensive that anyone can recommend?
  • perilXperilX Joined: Posts: 61
    airdoojie wrote: »

    Any updates on your plexi experimentation with the Panthera?
    Yes. I took acetone to the plexi in hopes of removing the artwork. The print is printed directly onto the plexi and doesn't come off. Then a coat of white is added onto the printing to make it visible (otherwise it's just clear blue). So I was able to remove the white coat only with acetone. Then, I put mirror finish decal on the stick and rubber cemented (on the dark parts) the plexi back down, leaving me with mirror/shiny blue instead of just the current blue. It feels the same and almost looks the same except shiny.

    Overall, would not recommend this mod lol. It took so much damn time for the smallest of results. If you want custom art you have to hope you can get replacement plexi. Removing the plexi and adhesive isn't too hard. And screwing down the new plexi is certainly doable. But removing the existing print? Nope.
  • Crimson_KinoCrimson_Kino Joined: Posts: 10
    So I just got an Xbox One Atrox for about $60 and I have the PS3/4 Brook Fighting Board with a breakout board lying around. What is the best way to get the Brook Board into the Atrox? I was hoping to use a 20 pin connector but I don't know if that is possible.
  • vash254vash254 Joined: Posts: 8
    Currently focusattack is working on a plexi for it. Ive been back and forth with the guys there through twitter dm. Apparently they are doing a plexi for the qanba crystal then after that they will work on the panthera.
  • ScotchScotch Joined: Posts: 91
    edited April 7
    Does anyone know if Hori Hayabusa Joystick fits in the Atrox/Panthera properly? Or would it require modding for standard height & fit?
  • NCK_FeroceNCK_Feroce Left behind Joined: Posts: 2,398
    Scotch wrote: »
    Does anyone know if Hori Hayabusa Joystick fits in the Atrox/Panthera properly? Or would it require modding for standard height & fit?

    Fits perfectly.
  • ThalnosThalnos cherry pie Joined: Posts: 75
    edited April 13
    vash254 wrote: »
    Currently focusattack is working on a plexi for it. Ive been back and forth with the guys there through twitter dm. Apparently they are doing a plexi for the qanba crystal then after that they will work on the panthera.

    I really hope this is true

    EDIT: I emailed them asking about this and was told basically the same thing, they're gonna try and work something out soon.
    Post edited by Thalnos on
  • DubonDubon Joined: Posts: 406
    Sup guys. I lost one of the screws that holds the plexi frrom the underside on the 360/xbone atrox. Anyone know what the specs are for those screws?
  • vash254vash254 Joined: Posts: 8
    NCK_Feroce wrote: »
    Scotch wrote: »
    Does anyone know if Hori Hayabusa Joystick fits in the Atrox/Panthera properly? Or would it require modding for standard height & fit?

    Fits perfectly.

    can i see pictures of it. my roomate has a rap kai he doesnt use, and i miss using my hyabusa joystick
  • trav54trav54 Joined: Posts: 187
    Debating on picking up a Panthera too. It's a sickness.
  • ScotchScotch Joined: Posts: 91


    One step closer to the Panthera Plexi :D


  • vash254vash254 Joined: Posts: 8
    Scotch wrote: »


    One step closer to the Panthera Plexi :D


    i saw this too i cant wait.
    On another note can someone upload pics or a video of them taking out the stock sanwa jlf and replacing it with the hori hyabusa
  • ScotchScotch Joined: Posts: 91
    edited April 18
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    Didn't get it yet, but AS confirmed it will fit.
  • vash254vash254 Joined: Posts: 8
    edited April 19
    okay finally manned up and took a risk and glad to say its an easy drop in install with no additional mods. The Hori Hyabusa fits.Decided to go without the 2lb spring also but keep in the oversized actuator.
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  • StrtFghtrMstrStrtFghtrMstr SRnk1VaBeachAlphaTeam Joined: Posts: 459 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited April 21
    So I've had the Razer Panthera since it released in February but never needed it so I recently unboxed it since it's the first mass production stick I believe that has an updateblend pcb for consoles not just pc drivers. Their current upgrade as advertised reduces input lag and we all want the quickest form of input or at least be aware of which pcb is the quickest. So after reading about iplaywinner, srk's test results I wanted to do my own. I really want more folks to post their test results because they were pretty eye opening for myself when compared with what has been advertised to us..
    • So with limited hardware and video editing software I already had I recorded, edited and uploaded a 3 part video series after viewing and reading a lot about the advertised low input Latency of the Panthera:
    • Video 1: Just an unboxing video
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    • Video 2: Input lag comparison of Razer Panthera default firmware 1.00 with padhacked HFC4. I placed test results times in description.
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    • Video 3: Input lag comparison of Razer Panthera upgraded firmware 1.01 with padhacked HFC4, with combination of the auto-detect-UFB built into the Brook sniper
      • HFC4-via-BS vs Panthera
      • HFC4 vs Panthera-via-BS
      • HRAP VX SA-via-BS vs Panthera
      As the 2nd video included in the description are the timestamps for the test results.
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    Post edited by StrtFghtrMstr on
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  • vash254vash254 Joined: Posts: 8
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    its here guys
  • vash254vash254 Joined: Posts: 8
    also does anyone know how to mod the led for the razer logo, i would love to have a rbg led in it or just red. Ive seen it done on here but the video and pics are either no longer here or no one has shown the install. can you help a brother out?
  • ThalnosThalnos cherry pie Joined: Posts: 75
    Anyone have a good way of removing the plexi off of the panthera? I've tried shoving a knife under where I marked this image but to no avail.
    stick.jpg
  • vash254vash254 Joined: Posts: 8
    Thalnos wrote: »
    Anyone have a good way of removing the plexi off of the panthera? I've tried shoving a knife under where I marked this image but to no avail.
    stick.jpg

    heat gun/ blowdryer and either a rubber pry like they have to open an ipad,smartphone,laptop, etc or a butterknife should work. when you look at the plexi on focusattack they suggest the same
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