The Razer Arcade Stick Thread!

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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 19,739
    Neccros wrote: »
    Got lucky and picked up a less than 1 month old Xbone Atrox cheap... With a Brook board, what is the preferred mod method? Rip out stock PCB and wires and start new, or hack whats there and integrate? Sorry for the dumb questions, new to modding, not new to fight sticks.

    Just take out the old board, get some new fresh wire encase you want to revert back and start fresh.
    Never pay double the retail price
  • NeccrosNeccros Joined: Posts: 103
    this will be my first mod ever but what is the gauge of wire and size of blade connectors used on the buttons?
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 19,739
    edited January 27
    Neccros wrote: »
    this will be my first mod ever but what is the gauge of wire and size of blade connectors used on the buttons?

    If you are new at modding, I recomend the premade, precrimp wires. Make each button a different color wire, this will make insulation easier.
    Also consider getting the pre-made daisy chain ground wire and a joystick wire harness. Daisy chain grounds make it less clutter and you only need one wire going back to a ground terminal.

    Japanese style buttons use .110 sized connectors, .187 is for American style buttons and joysticks that don't use the 5 pin wire harness

    For wire gauge anywhere between 22 and 28 gauge is fine, 30 is getting a bit thin for work.
    Never pay double the retail price
  • RageousXRageousX Joined: Posts: 380
    Stuff like this:

    https://paradisearcadeshop.com/525-wire-sets

    The 10-connection daisy chain wire is pretty convenient for ground, since that's your 8 face buttons + start/select. Then get the 16-wire rainbow pack and go ham.
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  • onyxmethonyxmeth Joined: Posts: 67
    Has anyone attempted the panel removal on the Panthera yet? I picked one up during the half off sale, and I was thinking of taking a crack at it this weekend. If anyone was successful or even unsuccessful at it, I'd appreciate the help navigating through the woods, otherwise I will try to take pictures along the way to hopefully help others in the future.
  • NeccrosNeccros Joined: Posts: 103
    This might of been discussed, but whats the chance MS will ever release drivers so the Atrox fully works in Windows? (RT + LT)
  • TenshoTensho Joined: Posts: 2,855
    If they haven't by now then probably never.
  • RageousXRageousX Joined: Posts: 380
    In retrospect I'm shocked -- SHOCKED, I SAY -- that the Panthera somehow made it to market without the famed Razer "Chroma" treatment... RGB pushbuttons programmable through Synapse, Mamba-style rainbow wave around the edges. @MarkMan, what gives?
    SFV - Ryu, Laura
    USFIV - Makoto, Evil Ryu
    3rd Strike - Makoto
    UMvC3 - Viper/Dante/Strider
    Tekken 7 - Looking forward to finding out!
  • NeccrosNeccros Joined: Posts: 103
    Im trying to figure out the best method of wiring the Xbox One lock switch/LED panel to a Brook board with all the headers. Can anyone shed some light how they did theirs?
  • AkshenAkshen Joined: Posts: 62
    edited January 30
    RageousX wrote: »
    In retrospect I'm shocked -- SHOCKED, I SAY -- that the Panthera somehow made it to market without the famed Razer "Chroma" treatment... RGB pushbuttons programmable through Synapse, Mamba-style rainbow wave around the edges. @MarkMan, what gives?

    That's not as simple as you would think. Razer would have to engineer their own LED circuit boards that could fit in or around clear sanwa buttons, then write their own code to make synapse compatible with said boards. Something like that would most likely cause the price of the stick to rise quite a bit. MadCatz's TE2 LED board is sort of exempt from this due to the fact that they are just white LEDs with either an ON/OFF function.
  • RageousXRageousX Joined: Posts: 380
    Akshen wrote: »
    That's not as simple as you would think. Razer would have to engineer their own LED circuit boards that could fit in or around clear sanwa buttons, then write their own code to make synapse compatible with said boards. Something like that would most likely cause the price of the stick to rise quite a bit. MadCatz's TE2 LED board is sort of exempt from this due to the fact that they are just white LEDs with either an ON/OFF function.

    Razer's got the in-house chops to make it far more trivial of a process than most places (they pretty much own their keyboard production keyswitch line at this point, and aren't even going through Kailh anymore). Hell, they were giving away cycling RGB switches at E3 last year for shits and giggles. If Paradise Arcade and Jasen's Customs can design in-house boards with LEDs mounted, Razer could easily do the same. Especially on a stick like the Panthera, which is designed never to deviate from the stock layout. They have just about everything in Synapse at this point - I can't imagine that being all that difficult either. Even the Firefly mouse mat is supported by Synapse.
    SFV - Ryu, Laura
    USFIV - Makoto, Evil Ryu
    3rd Strike - Makoto
    UMvC3 - Viper/Dante/Strider
    Tekken 7 - Looking forward to finding out!
  • perilXperilX Joined: Posts: 60
    So I took the plexi off my Panthera. It comes off pretty clean with the art intact. The glue holding it on isn't particularly strong. Just have to be careful to not pry up the plexi and crack it. I just started sliding stuff under it.

    Judging from the panel underneath, you certainly could use your own art if you drilled the plexi and swapped out the existing screws. It looks like they've done that for the Lupe Fiasco stick here:
    C5OuDfRUcAAp1F4.png

    I'm going to see about getting some other plexi made in a different color. I could probably remove the existing artwork from the plexi with some sort of solvent, though. Looks like a big white sticker with printing on it.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 34,354 mod
    edited March 8
    Firmware update for the Panthera is out.

    For anyone who has issues with input lag, this is a must download.

    @MarkMan has confirmed that their internal testing has shown to bring the lag down to an average of 3ms compared to 10ms with the older firmware. We've performed our own testing (which you can see here) that confirms this as well.
    Post edited by d3v on
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
    -Mike_Z

    Everyone (should) be mindful that if there isn't a new generation after my generation, the FGC (fighting game community) will basically become extinct, so it's important to think about the future.
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  • brainfraudbrainfraud Joined: Posts: 124
    edited March 8
    Sorry to be a pain but I cant get the firmware to install. To be clear I've never installed anything on PS4 via Flash Drive that said I figured it be much easier than it has been in this particular case.

    Google told me to create folders (PS4, UPDATE, PS4UPDATE.PUP), it is indeed formatted in Fat32. I've restarted the system with and without the drive plugged in, I booted it up in Safe Mode.

    No idea whats going on to be honest, I've got no notification that an update took place.


    Any help would be appreciated.

  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 34,354 mod
    edited March 8
    brainfraud wrote: »
    Sorry to be a pain but I cant get the firmware to install. To be clear I've never installed anything on PS4 via Flash Drive that said I figured it be much easier than it has been in this particular case.

    Google told me to create folders (PS4, UPDATE, PS4UPDATE.PUP), it is indeed formatted in Fat32. I've restarted the system with and without the drive plugged in, I booted it up in Safe Mode.

    No idea whats going on to be honest, I've got no notification that an update took place.


    Any help would be appreciated.
    You're supposed to install the firmware in the Panthera, not the PS4.

    Run the firmware on PC and it should provide instructions. Basically, run the firmware updater, set the Panthera to PS4, press and hold Circle and R1, then plug it into the computer.

    CW7sIgc.jpg
    You can't ask for well-thought-out changes off day 1, week 1, or mostly even month 1 play...and that's when the game is out and everyone's in the lab.
    -Mike_Z

    Everyone (should) be mindful that if there isn't a new generation after my generation, the FGC (fighting game community) will basically become extinct, so it's important to think about the future.
    -Daigo Umehara

  • hyperheavywinghyperheavywing Joined: Posts: 14
    I hate Razer do nothing for XB1 Atrox, they don't fix the 6 button and no update what so ever
  • DubonDubon Joined: Posts: 401
    Not every pcb is can be flashed with new fw. In fact afaik the panthera is the first retail stick to support fw upgrade.
    The 6 button issue needs to be fixed by Microsoft.
  • brainfraudbrainfraud Joined: Posts: 124
    d3v wrote: »
    brainfraud wrote: »
    Sorry to be a pain but I cant get the firmware to install. To be clear I've never installed anything on PS4 via Flash Drive that said I figured it be much easier than it has been in this particular case.

    Google told me to create folders (PS4, UPDATE, PS4UPDATE.PUP), it is indeed formatted in Fat32. I've restarted the system with and without the drive plugged in, I booted it up in Safe Mode.

    No idea whats going on to be honest, I've got no notification that an update took place.


    Any help would be appreciated.
    You're supposed to install the firmware in the Panthera, not the PS4.

    Run the firmware on PC and it should provide instructions. Basically, run the firmware updater, set the Panthera to PS4, press and hold Circle and R1, then plug it into the computer.

    CW7sIgc.jpg

    Alright thank you, had no idea you installed it that way. Didn't realize you had to open anything on the PC, I was on Mac and just assumed you transferred it to PS4 and it auto installed or some shit.

  • airdoojieairdoojie Joined: Posts: 16
    perilX wrote: »
    So I took the plexi off my Panthera. It comes off pretty clean with the art intact. The glue holding it on isn't particularly strong. Just have to be careful to not pry up the plexi and crack it. I just started sliding stuff under it.

    Judging from the panel underneath, you certainly could use your own art if you drilled the plexi and swapped out the existing screws. It looks like they've done that for the Lupe Fiasco stick here:
    C5OuDfRUcAAp1F4.png

    I'm going to see about getting some other plexi made in a different color. I could probably remove the existing artwork from the plexi with some sort of solvent, though. Looks like a big white sticker with printing on it.

    Any updates on your plexi experimentation with the Panthera?
  • SayerSayer Joined: Posts: 1
    Hey,

    I'm planning on modding my Atrox with the UFB and I'm going to add extra buttons to the left of the stick for L3/R3/etc. I plan to buy the UFB with headers so I can have a full solderless system. I've already bought a pack of JST headers and crimps, main issue I'm having is crimping the wire. I keep crushing the metal crimps. I have the same crimper as used in the slagcoin guide. Is there a more robust and quality crimper that isn't too expensive that anyone can recommend?
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