"This camera can record too?" Spider-Man UMVC3 Video Thread

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  • EpiEpi Joined: Posts: 348
    Day 1 Spider-man here, but I got a question: anyone knows what happened in the video?



    Apologies for shaky camera.
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  • Angry_OdinAngry_Odin j.S vs Deadpool...Works every time. =D Joined: Posts: 4
    This is basically the opposite of web throws going opposite the norm in some situations. (E.G. Spiderman would swing his hands clockwise, but the character is swung counter clockwise.) Only this time, instead of the character being displaced, the stage is displaced, and so you are throwing the character back in the corner. If you remember the Magneto glitch that turned your characters dark for example. Just with this you don't have to put in any backwards inputs. If you want to get the glitch consistently, measure your wall bounces, and make sure the opponent is directly above your head and it only works with L.web throw.
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    just thought I would leave this here.
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  • phantasyphantasy Smash Journeyman Joined: Posts: 8,558
    edited May 2014
    i am pretty sure shuma does more damage solo than that combo

    looked up some vids, looks like shuma has to spend meter but he still does a lot. that combo i believe can have the shuma part extended a bit, to about 600k before the vergil tag.
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  • SavageGhostRiderSavageGhostRider Joined: Posts: 259
    did you try it?
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    Shall we inject some life back into this forum? How's about that Garrett Spidey doing well in SEAM? His team seems very good in neutral, plus he was pretty on point with his web throw loops to make up for the damage. Racoon into Strange comboes are pretty cool too. Looking forward to seeing him get better as a player and do some damage in the future.
  • AcidicEnemaAcidicEnema Joined: Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    edited June 2014
    Was at SEAM. Garrett is the truth, and i can't wait to see more from him. Really hope he makes it out of pools at Evo
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  • RaohRaoh AU Spider Joined: Posts: 968
    Remember the time when web throw loops were "impractical". Hahah. Like I said, just like lightning loops. Too bad Spidey's not as braindead to play as Zero/Vergil.
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  • Brightside6382Brightside6382 It can't be helped Joined: Posts: 950
    After watching his matches I'm very impressed with garret. He's the first spiderman I've ever seen (besides obviously me) who understands Spiderman approach tothe neutral and more importantly when to use specific normals. Hes probably the best spiderman atm at would be a good reference to how to play him properly.

    But mimportantly what i Noticed is that he is Filipino. Obviously from the insurmountable evidence of tourney results if you aren't filipino you cant play the char properly. So yeah tough luck if you aren't one
  • INVIZOBLEINVIZOBLE Joined: Posts: 264
    Brightside your spidey was never close to the level of Garrets and your troll racist humor is childish.

    post some of your matches all talk no show


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  • forte95forte95 Buster Cannoneer Joined: Posts: 546
    Too bad he's like the only Filipino player who plays Spidey, probably not counting those who just play in their own area and never come out lol
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  • STANGSTANG Joined: Posts: 1,200
    That was very cute. Do 7 Web throw loops, drop the ender, doom kills him with a brain dead combo. I was cringing when he decided to do some fancy combo on vergil game 4. He had xfactor but decided not to use it, even though that was the only way to kill vergil. Decisions like that are so elementary.

    Before all the hindsight is 20/20, you haven't gotten second at a major etc, I never fault a player for dropping a combo. Everyone drops combos. But decisions like leaving characters alive because you didn't wanna spend meter or xfactor is my biggest gripe with marvel players.

  • Brightside6382Brightside6382 It can't be helped Joined: Posts: 950
    Yeah that was dumb but he was probably feeling himself and thought he could get son psychological edge by swagging it out. Still though fundamentally he played great and besides the few key mistakes he made he's still a great example of how to play the char right.

    Honestly I think he could get 20 times more mileage out of spidey/doom/coon. Plasma beam would give him more ground control compared to bolts and doom/raccoon is a great back up shell.
  • RaohRaoh AU Spider Joined: Posts: 968
    edited July 2014
    Haha. I'll have to agree with BS on Filipino Spidey players. Lol.

    I played Garrett during last year's Christmas holidays when I went to the PH to visit family. I went 7-10 against him with almost all my wins being ocv Spidey wins. I ran my old SpiDrdHwk team. My team suffered matchup problems once my Spidey dies and I wasn't able to plink that well or at all back then (changed my button config as soon as I got back to AU and got the loops down pat).

    He's a pretty good tourney player in terms of nerves but he does get those random awful decisions whenever he's feeling himself or he's getting pressured. He sometimes switches RR for Dante and says he'll never play Doom which I don't find a problem with since Strange owns Doom and RR can handle Vergil decently. He can be beaten in a long set when you get used to his awkward team, but good luck winning 3/5 if you're not playing a top tier team with either point Zero, Morri, Nova or Vajra assist.

    I also got to play some of his friends who played absolutely horrible on stream, dropping all kinds of easy crap but were really good casual monsters. Found it to be a funny experience.

    Haven't played that much since then and have been in a character crisis with Hawkeye lately. I can't seem find a good replacement for triple arrows but want a more solid anchor. Looking to switch to Dante, Strange or RR anchor. Vergil's fine but I'm not feeling his assist.
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  • KingofBnBsKingofBnBs Joined: Posts: 7
    I want to put strange on my spidey team also. i wanted to for the longest time, but look Raoh i had him on a team with Hawkeye already. Is it too much for me to put Spidey with Hawkeye(triple arrows) and Strange(eye)? I kinda like having Hawkeye with the eye assist. i feel more comfortable zoning with that out.d
  • INVIZOBLEINVIZOBLE Joined: Posts: 264
    garret got the loops down but i dont think i seen him finish it. anyone got the loops down consistently ? i still drop it a lot.
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  • RaohRaoh AU Spider Joined: Posts: 968
    KingofBnBs wrote: »
    I want to put strange on my spidey team also. i wanted to for the longest time, but look Raoh i had him on a team with Hawkeye already. Is it too much for me to put Spidey with Hawkeye(triple arrows) and Strange(eye)? I kinda like having Hawkeye with the eye assist. i feel more comfortable zoning with that out.d
    You really want a char with some sort of TAC ability and safe DHC as a second char. Hawk lacks the TAC one which is why I switched him to anchor position.

    INVIZOBLE wrote: »
    garret got the loops down but i dont think i seen him finish it. anyone got the loops down consistently ? i still drop it a lot.
    Check FGTV's archives where he got 4th, there were matches where he got full loops iirc.

    I have the loops down relatively consistent. The most annoying part is the first plink after the webthrow, that usually messes up everything. The next is when you do the cM cH, if you have sticky fingers or buttons, you'll get a messed plink ending in sH. (At least in my case - i plink with H~LMH)
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  • CHIEfyCHIEfy Joined: Posts: 1,187
    Not feeling Garret at all to be honest, at least compared to Mame Spider. He's gonna regret not running Spidey with Doom if he hasn't already.
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  • Brightside6382Brightside6382 It can't be helped Joined: Posts: 950
    CHIEfy wrote: »
    Not feeling Garret at all to be honest, at least compared to Mame Spider. He's gonna regret not running Spidey with Doom if he hasn't already.

    He's just appropriately following in my foot steps. One great showing then the slow and painful fading into obscurity. Also lol mame.
  • STANGSTANG Joined: Posts: 1,200
    CHIEfy wrote: »
    Not feeling Garret at all to be honest, at least compared to Mame Spider. He's gonna regret not running Spidey with Doom if he hasn't already.

    That's the problem. The people that say I respect him for not using doom are the same people that say vergil is dumb when garrett cant kill vergil with 1 combo and he ends up reverse ocv'ing his team. But that is not exclusive to garrett. I'm not gonna harp on his anti-doom thing. Whether or not he uses doom is not important. Whether or not he kills characters in 1 combo is what is important.

    There are plenty of players on this forum who use Spider-Man without doom. But they also know the importance of killing a character in 1 combo and have optimized their teams to do so. Even with Spider-Man/doom, it's not ezpz. I'm sure a lot of Spider-Man players will agree that even with doom, the struggle is real.
  • RaohRaoh AU Spider Joined: Posts: 968
    I have seen Rahsaan randomly get streamed during WB. Are there still any other active Spidey tourney players around?
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  • STANGSTANG Joined: Posts: 1,200
    I saw mamespider get bopped at the last frb
  • Brightside6382Brightside6382 It can't be helped Joined: Posts: 950
    I started playing again and I get my shit pushed in at weeklies.
  • RaohRaoh AU Spider Joined: Posts: 968
    Well, it's incredibly hard to play against the top tier points with Spidey. There's just no other way to win other than playing very solid or by winning through matchup unfamiliarity.

    Nova, Morrigan, Zero, and a bit of Mags just make it hard, add the occasional Viper. Then with trouble assists in vajra and jam session.
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  • Brightside6382Brightside6382 It can't be helped Joined: Posts: 950
    edited March 2015
    I dunno I honestly dont think spiderman does bad in general point wars. I think he goes fairly even with nova/mag and just wrecks viper. Zero/morrigan are just bad though but jam session helps against morrigan.

    The biggest thing i can think is people arent picking optimal teams with the char. At this point GB setups are mandatory since you can effectively eliminate problem chars with 0 risk. Besides the magneto one this avenue hasnt really been explored when a lot of good chars have potential setups. I know a few days ago I found a very simple one with vergil doing falling lights into devil trigger xxx utw but I havent devoted enought time to it yet to work out all the possibilities.
  • RaohRaoh AU Spider Joined: Posts: 968
    I agree with Mags vs Spidey being quite even but not with Nova and pulse shield. You can say that you can break it with your assist but he will have an assist as well to counter yours. As per Viper, I don't really have a problem against her with beam assist but all the Viper teams I played against either have jam session or vajra. Zero and Morri are obvious issues. Spidey's not bad at all I agree, but he's clearly not as solid as the others (bar Mags/Viper - they still require better than average players to work).

    You can just do standing light to DT then react to push blocks. I don't think there are other real guard breaks other than Mags and Iron Man's though. If there are, they're probably from characters that can't provide solid support for Spidey. Morrigan probably can with some unfly + AV thing but what assist?
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  • Brightside6382Brightside6382 It can't be helped Joined: Posts: 950
    Yeah the shield is annoying in the matchup because it can force spiderman into being proactive with his offense if you lose the life lead. Still if you focus on staying grounded and using spiderman anti air's and ground normals Nova also has trouble starting his offense. In the mid-range unless Nova is already on top of you with air. A's he has no real threatening presence. You can out space him with normals on the ground (cr. H is your best friend) and diagonal web throws can keep Nova wary of using box dash approaches. Fast beams help a lot also. Disrupter xxx webthrow can catch Nova's setting up shield from full screen.

    Standing light doesn't hit meaty on incoming so any character with air movement gets out for free. Sucks I don't have recording equipment but I found some semi-effective setups with vergil and a hilarious guard break with Ammy that costs 3 meter.

    IM's guardbreak is sketchy at best. You can PB the proton canon to mess with the UWT timing making it a 50/50.
  • kookymanus2099kookymanus2099 The original Kookymanus Joined: Posts: 73
    Spidey on point w/ 1 proj assist w/ good durability n start up. 1 good anti air assist that allows confirms n guard break/mixups. There's your formula.
  • xero15xero15 Follow me on Twitter Joined: Posts: 4,076
    I found a very simple one with vergil doing falling lights into devil trigger xxx utw but I havent devoted enought time to it yet to work out all the possibilities.

    Vergil can set up UWT a few different ways. The falling :l: is similar to Dantes box dash :l: into DT. You can do Vergil's round harvest then :l: xx dimension slash, which would stop pushblock, then UWT. As a general rule anyone can do :l: into a fast starting super that doesn't hit on the first frame into UWT.
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  • Brightside6382Brightside6382 It can't be helped Joined: Posts: 950
    If they pushblock the round harvest wouldnt that push vergil away and you would be forced to guess on the uwt? Maybe im just envisioning what you are saying wrong

    Yeah I noticed universally you can uwt from installs but the problem with these setups is if they come in mashing or get hit by the L they bounce out for free and its not something you can react to. W/ vergil on incoming you can SJ. L xxx dimension slash and if they block you guard break them and if they get hit the super combos and you can xfactor and combo w/ vergil. Problem is if they pushblock they end up blocking segments of the super and cant be guardbroken.
  • xero15xero15 Follow me on Twitter Joined: Posts: 4,076
    Using round harvest gives you a few options. If you throw it meaty then immediately hit :l: after you replace the value of block stun they are in with that of the :l: allowing for uwt to connect. If they pushblock you can do DS to negate the push back then DHC. Vergil was one of the few characters I noticed could adjust rather easily.

    As for taking the hit, the only character I know where this isn't a issue is Storm. She sets it up with meaty j:m: land into ER. Because you can hold the super for spacing and it has a large DHC window Spidey is almost guaranteed to land it no matter the defensive option.
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