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Disappointed with strider

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  • Ceo NBCeo NB Fighters Pride Joined: Posts: 49
    Strider isn't a Dissapointment hes a great character there's a reason why Dante is top tier and you will only understand that if you've played Devil may cry truely.Characters in this game are based alot around the Abilities in Comics or there games.Dante is very agile and quick in his games which is why hes how he is.Strider is the same his is very fast in his games and its why Strider's speed can easily out beat many players.I think everyone can beat defeated it you commit to your characters enough.
    When I see vergil, wesker, nova, spencer, zero, mags, etc.... I'm disappointed. The fact he is a threat only when he turns into a gimmick lvl 3 is pathetic. Again someone show me match play of a strider on point murdering consistently in a high level match. For someone that deals so lil damage and has such low health he should have better priority.
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  • CiscoCisco better than you Joined: Posts: 3,383 GOAT
    When I see vergil, wesker, nova, spencer, zero, mags, etc.... I'm disappointed. The fact he is a threat only when he turns into a gimmick lvl 3 is pathetic. Again someone show me match play of a strider on point murdering consistently in a high level match. For someone that deals so lil damage and has such low health he should have better priority.

    That level 3 XF gimmick instantly makes him the best character in the game. Watch chao.
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  • Zen RazorZen Razor Joined: Posts: 25
    When I see vergil, wesker, nova, spencer, zero, mags, etc.... I'm disappointed. The fact he is a threat only when he turns into a gimmick lvl 3 is pathetic. Again someone show me match play of a strider on point murdering consistently in a high level match. For someone that deals so lil damage and has such low health he should have better priority.
    Strider is great anywhere it depends how good you are with him,You can't underestimate Strider nor any Glass Cannon's,The reason why you don't see Strider on point is because his strongest with his 3XF,And lets get this straight many people use many character's for many reason but I for one don't use Vergil or Wesker for 3 XF,You guys don't understand the amount of loyalty i have to Dante/Vergil/Chris/Wesker or any RE/DMC character simply because i love these games to death.Infact if it wasn't for any of these character i would have never bought this game.But of course thats just me.If you commit loyalty to your characters anything can be done.Best part is THIS IS >MVC3< Not MVC2 were going to be seeing new techniques every month from diffrent player even online so anyone has potential to be on top.
  • YawDanYawDan Joined: Posts: 698
    When I see vergil, wesker, nova, spencer, zero, mags, etc.... I'm disappointed. The fact he is a threat only when he turns into a gimmick lvl 3 is pathetic. Again someone show me match play of a strider on point murdering consistently in a high level match. For someone that deals so lil damage and has such low health he should have better priority.

    Check out footage of Chou from from Kubodsgarden. He used Strider on point and never used Ouroborus (spelling?). He won the tournament. Also, Clockw0rk is placing frequently in the Runbacks, and he alters his team (either has Strider second or as the anchor).

    Strider's standing Light starts up in 4 frames, which is among the fastest of all the normals in the game. I use Strider on point now as I love it! lol, but yo... I think Nova's overrated. The others you mentioned are designed to be amongst the best in the game.
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  • Pervert_QPervert_Q a.k.a Pizza Josh Joined: Posts: 470
    Strider loves mag beam on point......

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  • YawDanYawDan Joined: Posts: 698
    Strider loves mag beam on point......

    That's basically my strategy lol
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  • Pervert_QPervert_Q a.k.a Pizza Josh Joined: Posts: 470
    I feel like using 2 assists in a combo could net him 700k w/ no bar. That's if your willing to play that cockily . If I combined my bnb with double or tripple wall cling with ground bounce interrupts.

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    When I see vergil, wesker, nova, spencer, zero, mags, etc.... I'm disappointed. The fact he is a threat only when he turns into a gimmick lvl 3 is pathetic. Again someone show me match play of a strider on point murdering consistently in a high level match. For someone that deals so lil damage and has such low health he should have better priority.


    Come to Austin and ill show you a threatening strider on point.

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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 59,231 mod
    Honestly Strider will be pants on head retarded once people figure out a way to make him as retarded as he already is as an assist + XF3.

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  • SynikaLSynikaL Melee Prophet Joined: Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Come to Austin and ill show you a threatening strider on point.

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    Mind going into detail? What makes your point Strider scary?
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  • fenrir04fenrir04 Joined: Posts: 150
    Yeah, I'd like to see that too. I really want to see how Hiryu can be effective on point with assists because I'm trying to avoid using him as an anchor.
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  • ThancruzThancruz Joined: Posts: 2,851
    It feels like Strider was a flavor of the month character, where everyone swore up and down they were this big time Strider main, but I have rarely seen anyone use him. Especially when they found out Orbs was lvl3, his ratings went down hard....
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 59,231 mod
    It feels like Strider was a flavor of the month character, where everyone swore up and down they were this big time Strider main, but I have rarely seen anyone use him. Especially when they found out Orbs was lvl3, his ratings went down hard....

    You're just talking about point Strider. Which is the same dilemma people have with Sentinel. Capable but just not good enough to be worth using on point mainly because his assist is so good that it defeats the purpose. In Vanilla people wanted to be Sentinel point mains n shit (cuz MVCTWOOO HE WAS DA BESSS), but people realized he had too many issues up front but was gdlk as an assist plus XF3 (well until people figured out his XF3 wasn't gdlk either).

    The main thing with Strider is that he has a lot of potential on point...it's just his assist and XF3 are so damned good that there really isn't much logical point to it. Anchor Strider got top 16 @ Evo so it's pretty safe to say that Strider will be around one way or another in major tourneys for a while. Anchor Strider is going to stay really oppressive and make up a good amount of the game's best teams.

    You may not get to play him the exact way you want (unless you work hard as hell to build a team around point Strider), but anchor Strider is the business and pretty much alone counts him as one of the best characters.

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  • sjohnst2sjohnst2 Joined: Posts: 1,497
    As good as anchor strider is I have a hard time telling if it is better to run Hidden missiles, or if maybe teams that use one versus the other just beat different things. or maybe such teams just play differently and the problem is I can only beat matchups using one over another right now.

    I am definately beating different teams when I swap out strider for missiles so the value of strider to the team is somewhat nebulous to me. I am still saing he's very good though.
  • YawDanYawDan Joined: Posts: 698
    This may be due to my lack of individuality, but I genuinely think Chou had the best point Strider team in Strider/Magneto/Vergil. Well, I'd have Magneto as the anchor, lol, but only because Disruptor and the teleport is really strong. Rapid Slash make's the Vajra safe if it is blocked, and the way he utilizes the Rapid Slash in his corner combos with Strider is probably my favourite tech in the game alongside a couple of other things I won't long this post out with lol. The Disruptor is really good with Strider's teleport mix-ups too.

    The main reason I'm a proponent of Strider on point is that I don't think things should be dictated by the status quo, logic (lol), precedents or whatever. If we keep go by what we should do, then ultimately we'd all be running the same teams, or using the same strategies. And besides, we wouldn't discover new things if we kept doing the same things.

    But admittedly, you probably won't be winning many tournaments... lol
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  • RokmodeRokmode preppy asked me to change my title rip meaty mud flap Joined: Posts: 8,306
    When I see vergil, wesker, nova, spencer, zero, mags, etc.... I'm disappointed. The fact he is a threat only when he turns into a gimmick lvl 3 is pathetic. Again someone show me match play of a strider on point murdering consistently in a high level match. For someone that deals so lil damage and has such low health he should have better priority.
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  • Pervert_QPervert_Q a.k.a Pizza Josh Joined: Posts: 470
    Ill try to record some casual matches sometime this week. I use strider/Dante(ws) and either sentinel/doom/mags/wesker anchor. I don't typically lose strider fast because I play very very carefully.

    Also note. Not bragging honestly but I did get 3 or 4 games straight on fanatic during sbo quals casuals using that team variation.

    I mainly play him on point so my anchor strider is better.
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  • InkInk Outnumbered, But Never Outgunned Joined: Posts: 48
    Strider is a good assist, and a good Lvl 3 x-factor character. This is what people say.

    He is more than that! I feel like hardly anyone has really put the effort in. Even clockworks Strider is nothing special, in my opinion.

    His wave dash is amazing. His teleport are some of the best in the game. His jumping H crosses up very easily.
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  • MGSMGS RTJRecon Joined: Posts: 1,058
    I just don't get it...why are people so obsessed into making Strider something he isn't. his assist and lvl3 are waaay too good not to be played in the anchor slot. I've put tons of effort into making him work in other positions but its just not a really good idea.

    Ink Striders teleports are pretty bad..its not like you can just throw them out there and if he gets thrown he dies. one mistake he dies...i like the balance that if i use my x factor if they make one mistake they die. Striders priority safe moves and hit co's could definitely use some tweaking as well. using traditional assists does make his point game better..(drones, missiles, beam etc) the same can be said for akuma...but i'd rather have a beastly anchor character rather than a average(maybe above average) point character. It's like anchoring zero sure you can do it but why would you.
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  • charlie88charlie88 Ya'll niggas gay. The Keving Gates kinda gay. Joined: Posts: 5,202
    Strider has a lot of BS on point the only reason people dont know about is because no one plays him on point except a very few of us. Chou is pretty much the only person I have seen play a proper strider on point. Even having seen that he still has some more BS that people havent explored deeply enough to abuse....Then again most of the cast is like that so it is what it is.
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  • MGSMGS RTJRecon Joined: Posts: 1,058
    anchor zero has a lot of bs too. my point is its not the best position for the character.
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  • RokmodeRokmode preppy asked me to change my title rip meaty mud flap Joined: Posts: 8,306
    I just don't get it...why are people so obsessed into making Strider something he isn't. his assist and lvl3 are waaay too good not to be played in the anchor slot. I've put tons of effort into making him work in other positions but its just not a really good idea.

    Ink Striders teleports are pretty bad..its not like you can just throw them out there and if he gets thrown he dies. one mistake he dies...i like the balance that if i use my x factor if they make one mistake they die. Striders priority safe moves and hit co's could definitely use some tweaking as well. using traditional assists does make his point game better..(drones, missiles, beam etc) the same can be said for akuma...but i'd rather have a beastly anchor character rather than a average(maybe above average) point character. It's like anchoring zero sure you can do it but why would you.
    Tac infinite character second+strider point is easily s tier
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  • sjohnst2sjohnst2 Joined: Posts: 1,497
    My biggest problem with strider on point is that vergil is in this game and popular. I cannot beat Vergil with strider.
  • Pervert_QPervert_Q a.k.a Pizza Josh Joined: Posts: 470
    A lot of people just can't think outside the box since all they base their game on is srk articles and watching vids on YouTube.

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  • fenrir04fenrir04 Joined: Posts: 150
    Tac infinite character second+strider point is easily s tier

    If that's true, Doom and Strider are really BFFs then. Have you been watching FGTV streams lately? ShadyK's been doing Doom's TAC infinite consistently for a little more than a week already.
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  • lamunesslamuness Joined: Posts: 720
    Strider isn't a glass cannon, he's just made of glass. The hardest combo he has only does 588k? That's so dumb. Yeah, Strider is a good anchor but if you're saving XFactor just for that, I feel like something's off in the way you're playing the game. Besides, once people start to catch on to how to block Oroborous, you're left with less than half of your XF, and when that's out, good luck because Strider does shit damage compared to the other anchors like Vergil. He's a good assist, and XF3 makes up for the lack of damage, I'll agree with that, but saying that he ONLY belongs on anchor is not the way to evolve him since it's only a temporary boost. If people continue to just put him on anchor, they won't see how capable he is with assists.
  • Pervert_QPervert_Q a.k.a Pizza Josh Joined: Posts: 470
    I can do about 850-900k in one strider combo. Remember you start with a bar. My strider combo + strider + dante th can end a dangerous character when I need it to happen. Considering most good teams Tod a character health could be considered irrelevant unless were talking Thor/nemesis hp . What are you ever going to do with that narrow mind?

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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 59,231 mod
    Strider is useful in all team spots. Anchor is his best spot for now because it's the easiest spot to make him work in but he's basically like Magneto where he effectively works in any spot.

    TAC infinites have already immensely boosted his strength in the point spot. If you are playing Strider on point you better be at minimum running a TAC infinite behind him or you're just...well this thread is basically for people who aren't being creative and can't figure shit out any way within the game.

    Ink Striders teleports are pretty bad..

    He basically has the best teleports in the game. Track you regardless of where you go and can always appear in front or behind so pretty much any long ranged assist can always set up a mix up where they pretty much have to guess left or right. This is considering you can already make them guess left or right even if you use the same teleport over and over. Also has multiple moves without assist to place hit boxes inbetween them. Easily giving him the best port game the game has to offer. That's before even counting his dive kick port.

    With your logic pretty much any teleport is bad because any teleport can get you killed if you just throw it out there. That's why Strider has at least 3 or 4 moves that allow him to place a hit box on the screen before teleporting so you don't have to worry about that and always be able to set up just frame cross ups off of them. He basically doesn't need an assist to assist teleport basically. Strider's ports have among the better recovery in the game so even if you did do the port raw it's not like it has Rocket Raccoon recovery or anything. Plus he's the only character in the game that has a dive kick port which can stuff bad attempts to punish it.

    Which calling an assist before teleporting is basic teleport footsie stuff. You really shouldn't be playing Strider if you don't know that you should be placing hit boxes in the middle of your teleports as often as you can.

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  • MGSMGS RTJRecon Joined: Posts: 1,058
    I play strider on anchor so having assists..is not part of my game plan. him being able to teleport anywhere on the screen really isn't that important IMO. since he can be thrown from super jump height...strider can't place boxes that high. the tiger and orb toss don't really place a hit box that helps his teleport since normal jump avoids both. the bird is ok but its box is tiny and blockstun is pretty miniscule as well..not saying it doesn't have its place i just use a different tactics for opening up my opponents in one on one situations.

    Ink made mention of his assist and x factor so it was my impression he was speaking on anchor strider teleports..which i still think are a pretty bad idea outside of some situations.

    so i'll have to disagree..yes i'm doing it right..and yes my strider fucks shit up thanks
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  • [Chrono][Chrono] Jackpot! Joined: Posts: 410
    I saw a friend playing Dante/Strider/Mags, that team is completely incredible hard to play against, you can´t do anything in the air, and in the ground you have mixups with beams that leads to death, or a 50/50, IMO is better than Dante/Vergil/Magneto, because Vajra is so godlike, and strider has Disruptor for free 100% mixups all day, i don't understand how anyone can be dissapointed by strider, seriously it seems like capcom wanted the characters with teleports and swords be the best in this game, godlike assist+safe incredible difficult to block mixups, yeah this character is weak, zero does low damage, and dante needs more moves that leaves you in 322738573857+ frames at advantage.
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  • HvisLysetTarAustinHvisLysetTarAustin softer than a cat's belly Joined: Posts: 124
    #1: To the person who said something lke "Strider's Assist, unlike Wesker's gunshot, does something 'other than shoot at the ground.'"

    Funny that you are constrasting these when they're two part of the same routine: knock someone down, pick them back up.

    Wesker's assist also allows for a lot of unblockable setups, in addition to being the best OTG combo extender in the game.

    Not knocking Strider's assist, because Vajra is better than gunshot, but you are seriously underestimating how awesome Wesker's gunshot assist truly is, even in Ultimate with far more other OTG options on new and pre-existing characters.

    #2:
    A lot of people just can't think outside the box since all they base their game on is srk articles and watching vids on YouTube.

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    Can't think outside the box? Not that simple. "The box" is simply way more huge because the existence of what you mentioned, articles and videos, not that people can't think outside. Fighting game technology is completely different than before, and your post reeks of false "get off my porch, n00b LOL" nostalgia.
  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 59,231 mod
    I saw a friend playing Dante/Strider/Mags, that team is completely incredible hard to play against, you can´t do anything in the air, and in the ground you have mixups with beams that leads to death, or a 50/50, IMO is better than Dante/Vergil/Magneto, because Vajra is so godlike, and strider has Disruptor for free 100% mixups all day, i don't understand how anyone can be dissapointed by strider, seriously it seems like capcom wanted the characters with teleports and swords be the best in this game, godlike assist+safe incredible difficult to block mixups, yeah this character is weak, zero does low damage, and dante needs more moves that leaves you in 322738573857+ frames at advantage.

    Yeah this team is very strong. Gives Dante 2 strong assists instead of just one and all you have to do is be familiar on how to start the round with Dante against different matchups. From there just go HAM because vajra and disruptah will allow you to set up so many post combo options that you'll be able to kill people easily even if it's not in one combo. If Dante dies...as long as Strider comes down safely he gets one of his best assists and if he lands a hit TAC infinite into Magneto and basically make Strider almost untouchable afterwards along with killing the character. It's very simple to just burn XF2 and go cray with Strider since you can kill 1 or 2 people easily with XF2 Strider + assist and then 3rd one you can always just land an infinite on or kill with level 3 if you have the meter.

    I lost to a Viper/Strider/Coon player @ SB who also had some wild shit with Strider + Coon.

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  • Strider_SpArtanStrider_SpArtan Joined: Posts: 10
    He's all about getting the touch. He's not a glass cannon by any means, because he does shit damage, and despite what everyone is saying, I don't see him ever breaking 600,000 without X-factor, level 3, or maybe assists. But what will make him good is his ability to mix-up and get that touch so easily. He's going to be a character you need to play smart with in order win. We need time to develop our smarts.

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  • Pervert_QPervert_Q a.k.a Pizza Josh Joined: Posts: 470
    #1: To the person who said something lke "Strider's Assist, unlike Wesker's gunshot, does something 'other than shoot at the ground.'"

    Funny that you are constrasting these when they're two part of the same routine: knock someone down, pick them back up.

    Wesker's assist also allows for a lot of unblockable setups, in addition to being the best OTG combo extender in the game.

    Not knocking Strider's assist, because Vajra is better than gunshot, but you are seriously underestimating how awesome Wesker's gunshot assist truly is, even in Ultimate with far more other OTG options on new and pre-existing characters.

    #2:


    Can't think outside the box? Not that simple. "The box" is simply way more huge because the existence of what you mentioned, articles and videos, not that people can't think outside. Fighting game technology is completely different than before, and your post reeks of false "get off my porch, n00b LOL" nostalgia.


    It's okay. I don't expect you to understand. I still estimate that over 85% of this community will continue to talk trash even though they contribute nothing because they may simply not have the capacity to do so, or are too lazy. Also, nothings different. Fighting games still work the same way on a fundamental level. It just depends on how bright you are that will determine how much you can bend the rules before your caught......strider on point team syndrome.

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