The NGBC Strat Thread

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  • PaolochunPaolochun so that I / can say I'm on your side Joined: Posts: 11,398 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Same motion. It is really great after her hcb + C counter grab, then the follow up, then the stomp.

    At any case, I wonder how come you cant do her DA after the c+b, f+b. I try so much but it ain't working...

    I don't know why either. (It's cute that she does the Ankoku Raikoken though). Maybe it's because of the rush part of the D-Assault somehow? At any rate I'm sticking to close B -> stuff. Will participate more once I'm not held down by exams. ^^;
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    Hmmm..interesting..care to share what that infinite after the qcfx2k super with Kyo is and whether it has to be in the corner or not??
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  • Amazing FunbagsAmazing Funbags The J-Cup Lover Joined: Posts: 17,888

    kyo has an inf after the qcfx2K super

    No that's not an infinite. That's just KOF2k2 MAX mode crap that only last like 10 seconds.
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  • Jon BadwolfJon Badwolf Furry NGBC Gladiator Joined: Posts: 372
    Yes but it fun to do into his Aragami setup for the true DA. Can you say Max damage?!
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    so like how do i do the 2k2inf? :confused:

    reyrey has an unblockable i think on wakeup? :sweat:
  • AzagtothAzagtoth weight of the world Joined: Posts: 1,745
    so like how do i do the 2k2inf? :confused:

    reyrey has an unblockable i think on wakeup? :sweat:

    Do the multihit fireball super. If they block it crouching, do a j.C. If they block high, do a low hit.

    Not all that great though.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    I have noticed something guys..what are the properties of making Kyo Glow during his qcfx2 k move...I'l gotten him to glow after it a couple of times...

    Am I the only one that has gotten this???

    Glitch or no glitch??
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  • PaolochunPaolochun so that I / can say I'm on your side Joined: Posts: 11,398 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    As ArcadeFire mentioned earlier, it seems intentional.

    http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/neogeo_battle_coliseum_b.txt

    FAQ said it's similar to the old KOF's wherein you can taunt after the Final Showdown. Presumably, you can do some max mode-ish loops afterwards. I'll mess around with my PS2 copy later.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    Post Mu Shiki taunt..gotcha..I havent had much time to experiment with it either..and 5 seconds doesnt seem long enough for an infinite but we shall see..
    I will be testing it today..
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  • RoskiRoski The Triad Joined: Posts: 1,949
    Anyone know how in the hell to juggle with Haohmaru's running dp? Is it even possible? I've read that it has that "specific" juggle property where it is possible to juggle with it in any situation that allows for it, and I've seen vids (glitch vid for the most part however...). I can't get this damn move to juggle at all.

    I've tried both A and C versions after super, after C tornado, early, late, in the middle, and I can't get it to hit. Any insights?
  • Amazing FunbagsAmazing Funbags The J-Cup Lover Joined: Posts: 17,888
    Dark Geese wrote:
    I have noticed something guys..what are the properties of making Kyo Glow during his qcfx2 k move...I'l gotten him to glow after it a couple of times...

    Am I the only one that has gotten this???

    Glitch or no glitch??

    It's no glitch you just mash on P after the final punch of Mu Shiki connects, blocked or not. Kyo will taunt then glow for 2K2 MAX mode stuff.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    Theres two ways to juggle with Haohs running DP.

    I use it in the Persona combo(probably the "glitch vid" in the NGBC thread in FGD...the way I do it and have perfected is to do this:

    DP+AB~p.

    Thats Dragon Punch and AB (Escape) Slide to Punch..it costs some meter but that is how you do it.

    Thanks Arcade Fire...
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  • Jon BadwolfJon Badwolf Furry NGBC Gladiator Joined: Posts: 372
    Is it me or has anyone else seen that Haohmaru can take down Goodman no prob with his standing C? Cheapest thing in the world.
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  • Saisyu KusanagiSaisyu Kusanagi Oppressive Village Pillager Joined: Posts: 1,314
    Two questions,

    1:) Asura qcb-hcf super

    What is the difference between them?

    I know B juggles, but what are A and C used for?

    2:) What is the unblockable trap with Asura in the corner? I have heard so many things but I would like to read it in detail from you Dark Geese.

    Kaede is stupid but you can stop the the corner rape in two ways:

    When you see the start up of HCB+C jump out or if you blocked the first hit GC and do nothing but quick jabs. That is what I am doing right now.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    Sure man just PM me and I'll give you the UB trap. Also guys please please please come to GC.Net and support the NGBC thread!! It's building some steam!!!

    http://www.guardcrush.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=131

    I want you guys to come join!!!!!!!

    Most people with Kaede dont whore qcb+C much..its rare..but you can set it up..but it is slow and easy to read as you say!
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  • hauntshaunts www.iplaywinner.com Joined: Posts: 3,098
    No infinite with Kyo, but you can do a sick combo with it that is for sure. My thing is, whats the best way to combo into his qcf x 2 + k super?? And if it connects and you get the power up, whats the best set up/mix up after that to put them into a combo?? Now when you are powered up I think you can do this but I need someone here to test it for me.

    c. A, f+b, qcf + c, qcf + a, qcf + c, qcf + a, qcf + c, qcf + a, qcf + c, qcf + a, qcf + c, qcf + c, qcf +a, qcf + b, hcb + c, dragon + C, qcf (x2) + c, dragon + a.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    That doesnt work...tried it already....

    qcfx2 k super is best IMO comboed of cr.b,cr.a.
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  • hauntshaunts www.iplaywinner.com Joined: Posts: 3,098
    whats the proper ender for that combo ? Can you not continue the regular qcf + c, qcf + c, qcf +a, qcf + b, hcb +c???

    ps: this game rules. :P

    oh yeah can u combo qcf x 2 k super off any of his specials?
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    Not off his specials..the power ender I use at the end of his Power up combo is after like the 11th hit do qcf+kk to Orochinagi.

    Know that the punches in the Power up BUILD METER!!!!
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  • Jon BadwolfJon Badwolf Furry NGBC Gladiator Joined: Posts: 372
    been experimenting yesterday. I found a new team.

    Team "Kar Wash" Not my best team but I'm starting to get a good feel for the two characters. Guess who they are...:arazz:
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    Mr.Karate and Washizuka.... Nice name there..lol.
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  • Derez-Derez- Necessary Evil Joined: Posts: 293
    I'm thinking of dropping GGXX and playing NGBC at texas showdown. Awesome thread, dont know why i didn't see this sooner.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    And man the one at Guardcrush.net is picking up steam!!!

    I tell you what man..a almost better name for a NGBC team-

    ROCK LEE. "You got beat by ROCK LEE BITCHES!!!"

    Lol. The new NGBC sig!

    Derez I'd be more than happy to casual with you in NGBC in the BYOC room.
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  • Derez-Derez- Necessary Evil Joined: Posts: 293
    Awesome i'll be there. I'll probably find you but i'll be wearing a team shirt with my name on it. See ya there.
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  • Jon BadwolfJon Badwolf Furry NGBC Gladiator Joined: Posts: 372
    Dark Geese wrote:
    Mr.Karate and Washizuka.... Nice name there..lol.
    Nope. K' and Washizuka! Greatest team.

    And Wash's True Fang of the wolf has more priority than CPU Neo-Dio's Lvl2 unblockable super combo.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    Rock Lee wasnt quite the best? Derez did I get to meet you at all man???


    K-Wash sounds like the name of a rapper..lol...*K-Fed*
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Can some please post a list of all of Moriya's Special/Super Moves and
    combos/strategies???

    The only combos that I know with him are:

    1)-- Crouching B(LK)x3 xxQCBx2 Super(Multi-Cut Super)
    Similiar to Ken's Crouching Short(LK)x3 xxKick Super Art combo from SF3:THIRD STRIKE

    2)-- Crouching B(LK)x3 xxQCF+A(LP)x3(Triple-Cut Special)

    Any good strategies for Moriya???

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  • psychochronicpsychochronic 5 fingers in a fist Joined: Posts: 1,854
    Can someone please post some strats or a move list of:
    Genjuro, Rock, Athena or Kyo?

    Thanks in advance. :tup:
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  • AzagtothAzagtoth weight of the world Joined: Posts: 1,745
    Can some please post a list of all of Moriya's Special/Super Moves and
    combos/strategies???

    The only combos that I know with him are:

    1)-- Crouching B(LK)x3 xxQCBx2 Super(Multi-Cut Super)
    Similiar to Ken's Crouching Short(LK)x3 xxKick Super Art combo from SF3:THIRD STRIKE

    2)-- Crouching B(LK)x3 xxQCF+A(LP)x3(Triple-Cut Special)

    Any good strategies for Moriya???

    PEACE!!!!

    You can do light attacks into 2 light rekka slashes (or three heavy in the corner, I think) into his level 2 super for decent damage. Make use of that parry as well.

    Not much of an expert on him, so if anyone has some comments, please add.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    Since NGBC top 8 wasnt recorded at Shodown..my Athena didnt get to be seen...

    *sigh*

    Oh well..

    Guys I would highly recommend going to Guardcrush.net/forums and go to the NGBC section...post stuff there and I start posting up!!!
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  • Jon BadwolfJon Badwolf Furry NGBC Gladiator Joined: Posts: 372
    Honestly, I'm wondering why is Kaede's S. Cancel from his qcb+a more powerful after the first hit?
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    Thats a good damn question..I dunno the answer though..really I don't know it.
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  • Jon BadwolfJon Badwolf Furry NGBC Gladiator Joined: Posts: 372
    Ok, then Mizuchi<<<Kaede big time.
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  • kenryuakumakenryuakuma God of Fighting Game Joined: Posts: 113
    Anyway, for those who own it, please help me with the combo in the vid BATTLE HEROES, which can be grabbed from cyberfanatix.com

    This is the combo:
    Kaede:
    Jump in hk \/ s.hk xx hcf+k.
    This is what I am having trouble with. Since the s.hk will make you a few step away farther, and the move hcf+K has to be done in close range. I have tried to use AC, but it didn't really work as it is too far away to connect. Please help me out.
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  • Jon BadwolfJon Badwolf Furry NGBC Gladiator Joined: Posts: 372
    Is it me or is Wash really underrated as a fighter? I mean he is a charge character, but he has a counter and a mega high priority super...
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  • Dracula_XDracula_X unblockable Joined: Posts: 923
    After reading through this thread i think i'm gonna import. Sounds like a fun game XD
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    This is a fun game..very fun...go to my guardcrush.net section guys(http://www.guardcrush.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=131) please and contribute..we need people posting up for this very great game that if you continue to support will GET A SEQUEL!!!

    As far as that combo wiht Kaede is concerned I havent had access to the game for a while so I am going to speculate-the person is probably using the escape (AB) after the close st. HK to get close or close enough to do the wicked command grab which IMO is CENTRAL to wreaking havoc with Kaede.
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  • Jon BadwolfJon Badwolf Furry NGBC Gladiator Joined: Posts: 372
    Gentlemen and other gamers... THE NEW KYO/IORI GLITCH!

    Ok...

    When Kyo pulls off the DA with Iori, when Iori jumps on the screen the split second he catches the opponent press AB, he will side step and you can then control both Kyo and Iori at the same time! Thank you... Hold your applause.
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  • Dark GeeseDark Geese Joined: Posts: 12,439
    Dammit I need my fucking PS2...
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  • Jon BadwolfJon Badwolf Furry NGBC Gladiator Joined: Posts: 372
    I had a wicked run today in CF. Kaede/Kim is godly! Kim pwns Dio.
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