Last Blade 2 Character Guides/Advanced System thread

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  • Dracula_XDracula_X unblockable Joined: Posts: 915
    BTW, years ago I was planning to do an explanatory video about the ban list used at the Alpha station, the arcade center of the best LB2 players in Japan (which seems a little different from that one posted above), but still today I can not understand a couple of rules and the lack of editing skills stopped me before reaching the goal.
    If someone have capabilities and would like to continue this work, I can help him giving him my old Winkawaks recinputs.

    If you still have them I'll take them. I've been working on a cmv and a basic tutorial vid so that would be a welcome addition so people know what not to do.
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  • SohSoh Thunder God assisted Joined: Posts: 74
    If you still have them I'll take them. I've been working on a cmv and a basic tutorial vid so that would be a welcome addition so people know what not to do.

    I was been contacted by Wil to continue the work and I passed him my recinputs. If you want to participate yourself, try asking in Wil if you need help with something.
  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    There's a ton of new videos that have just gone up on nicovideo.

    Part 1:http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9807131
    Part 4 (They forgot to link pt.4 from pt.3): http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9826083

    There's 14 parts at 30 minutes a piece 0_o.

    It appears to be a training session in preparation for the upcoming Total Eclipse of SNK tourney.
    I only skimmed through a bit, but its pretty interesting as you can see the top players using lots of different characters.
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  • KyokujiKyokuji Needlessly Perverted Joined: Posts: 2,926
    Pretty nasty Mukuro.
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  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    Uhhhh Soh about the ban list video . . . better watch this:

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  • SohSoh Thunder God assisted Joined: Posts: 74
    Damn, I should finish the video when I had started in 2006 :-/
    Oh, well, at least that video it's how I always wanted to do and now everyone can understand what is banned or not.
  • ShelcoofShelcoof Joined: Posts: 89
    OK.... So I know the last post regarding this question has been posted a couple of years ago in the Tier listing thread but I'd like to ask it again requesting a more detailed answer. I've did a lot of searching around and sheesh its quit hard finding answers for this game.

    I'm interested in finding out more about the differences the PS2 port and the MVS version, especially seeing how I'll be spending most of my time playing on the PS2 version than any other version of the game. Most of my friends who come over aren't interested in playing on my PC so we're going to have to use the next best thing which is my PS2 hooked up to my HDTV.

    I understand that people are saying the PS2 version is slower than MAME and has less frames. I've been fooling around with the PS2 version and it does feel a tad bit slower but it's very hard to tell for me. People have said that it just feels wrong and I would have to agree seeing how I've played both. Though keep in mind I'm quit new to the game and I've just started playing recently but I can feel a slight difference. However though I'm not at the level where I would know how much this difference affects game play.

    I'm just wondering if anyone can put a percentage number to how much slower the game is to MAME?
    I know the difference in speed may of course affect a lot of the higher skilled players but is the port good enough for casual matches or is the speed inconsistent throughout the game? I'm reading about slowdowns in the game but in MAME there are slowdowns as well.

    Dreamcast version I felt the game ran a lot faster and had less slowdowns than the Emulated version on MAME. I'm aware that the DC version had sound problems along with it being censored too.

    Yes the PS2 version audio is horrible compared to the the ROM version on MAME but other than that I can't really think of anything else that is wrong with the port.
    I'm hoping a well experience player can answer some of these questions.

    Thanks a bunch :)
    Btw I want to main Washizuka lol
  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    Last Blade ? Second Act (participants: 71 persons)
    Eclipse_Snk victory: RYO (Mukuro force)
    Runner-up: Daiki (maple force)
    Rank 3: White Rabbit (Mukuro force)

    They say videos will be up on youtube asap.

    EDIT: Also just found out that the P Zan player who got 4th place is the GGPO regular kikikirin.
    Edit2:

    Matches are up here: http://www.youtube.com/user/KAINGEKKA
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  • Plexo_TlipocaPlexo_Tlipoca Joined: Posts: 33
    EDIT: Also just found out that the P Zan player who got 4th place is the GGPO regular kikikirin.

    Is he Daiki?
  • Nightwing1990Nightwing1990 WING-NUTT Joined: Posts: 370
    wow people still play this......
    :pray:NIGHTWING OWNZ ALLLLLL:pray:
  • Mushishi GinkoMushishi Ginko Joined: Posts: 210
    wow people still play this......

    Bwahahaaa!! Of course not. The moment you stopped playing everyone else on the planet *immediately* stopped as well. The only reason why there's any activity on this thread is because a select group of Last Blade 2 players monitor your every move, and predicted you'd visit this thread. Therefore, to please you, the retired Last Blade 2 community roared back into action and created (what appeared to be) months worth of tournaments and associated posts.
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  • AlexanderAlexander Joined: Posts: 977
    Uhhhh Soh about the ban list video . . . better watch this:


    I knew the game was broken, but goddamn!
  • Mushishi GinkoMushishi Ginko Joined: Posts: 210
    Uhhhh Soh about the ban list video . . . better watch this:


    From the video I'm gleaning the ban list is basically "no infinites". The only question I have is what's wrong with 1:05? Is that an infinite, and he's only showing a single loop?
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  • Dracula_XDracula_X unblockable Joined: Posts: 915
    MY best guess is that it goes along with o.kaede's banned air combos, probably just a power mode thing for zan. And for the guy who asked abvout ps2 port differences:

    For casual and tourney play you can use it. I play that version all the time and i've never run into any slowdown outside of a few of the stages. The only thing that bugs me is that the music is off in the intro compared to the arcade version. It's nice that you get the NGCD versions of all the music though. As far as the game having less frames i really can't say as i don't have a good way to test that. for what it's worth every combo and trick in the arcade version works in the ps2 port. For me i can play on either and do fine. Hope that helped some.
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  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    From the video I'm gleaning the ban list is basically "no infinites". The only question I have is what's wrong with 1:05? Is that an infinite, and he's only showing a single loop?

    Thats the 7C glitch.

    By pressing 7C Zantetsu can chain any of his jumping normals into his jumping C. You can also chain 7C into itself multiple times almost like with his AC glitch.
    So you can do:
    8A, 7C
    8B,7C
    7C,7C,7C ect (You can use this to do a rejump infinite of sorts on taller characters)

    Ah you can imagine this breaks his high low game even more, by giving P Zan air chains (he can't chain his air attacks normally), as well as letting both P and S Zan chain from jumping B to jumping C which is not normally possible.

    As you said they banned all infinites. They also appear to have banned all "glitch air chains" as well, the others belonging too S Lee (ac) and O.Kaede (jump 26a/b/c).
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I've been playing LB2 on ArcLive with the Chinese , and I've seen them blocking my Lee's DM mid-way (they took the 1st hit , but when Lee dash forward , they blocked it , and that's the most important one ) . Since I dont know any Chinese , I couldn't ask them .
    Is that a glitch ? and do u guys know how to do it ?
  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    Well lots of guys there speak english but to answer your question:

    Just mash a lot of buttons and you should be able to block the 2nd part. This works the same way with Zan's DM and with BC overheads too.

    The way I do it is just hold back and hit ABC as fast as I can for a second. You just have to be careful not to mash too long, or you may recover and do an attack thus getting hit by the 2nd hit of the DM anyways.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    nice shit
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Thanks WiL
    I'm still trying to play Lee , do u guys know any combination for his speed DM (22B) to link with his normal attack ? Cause if I just use the DM alone , ppl can avoid it easily ._.
  • CurbehCurbeh Kagami Joined: Posts: 108
    I like this game a lot, anyone want to play on nFBA sometime?
  • Dracula_XDracula_X unblockable Joined: Posts: 915
    Thanks WiL
    I'm still trying to play Lee , do u guys know any combination for his speed DM (22B) to link with his normal attack ? Cause if I just use the DM alone , ppl can avoid it easily ._.

    The only way to "combo* it is with lee is from overhead stun. Even then your opponent can mash out and avoid it. Best bet is to stick with using it after a parry or as a punish for a wiffed Kaede dp for example.

    @Curbeh set up ggpo and supercade and have fun.
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  • LoBFCantiLoBFCanti Joined: Posts: 17
    I wish I wasn't so god awful at this game.I really like How Hibiki plays.
  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    I uploaded a little video that shows off some S Mukuro resets:

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  • Dracula_XDracula_X unblockable Joined: Posts: 915
    Not that anyone really cares anymore but a while ago I finally did figure out power Hibiki's Back A -> B link. It only works on Amano, Shigen, Juzoh and Kouryu. Also it will only work after a deep crossup on those characters. If you try to just walk up and do it, it won't work. She can also link Back A to down B in power from a bit more distance but that's not as useful.
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  • hammerheadhammerhead Joined: Posts: 5
    Im here

    I play Last Blade 1 and 2 but only on mame I have decent skills been playing about 2 years now .
    Also I dont think anybody plays like me so if anyone wants a decent challenge just let me know .
    I'm currently trying to get Speed Zantetsu combos his links are so sick, very difficult for me to pull off consistantly , but i'm getting there.:encore:
  • JudeJude M.O.D.O.K. AVENGERS Joined: Posts: 348
    Good games today hammerhead, I had to run and get my phone, we should play again sometime soon.

    I suck at this game, I really need to spend some time playing and building good habits. Shigen is really good, he has a lot of tools but I really want to work on Okina for a while.

    Does anybody here still play this regularly?
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  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    Finally found a way to download from the Korean youtube.

    These are some of my favorite matches I've ever seen played online:
    - [LB2 Match
    - [LB2 Match

    More to come . . .
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  • NocturnalNocturnal SNK Supporter Joined: Posts: 2,977 mod
    Ko-hatsu uploaded a match from a recent tournament:

    YouTube - kouhatsu's Channel

    Probably more on the way.
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  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    Ko-hatsu uploaded a match from a recent tournament:

    YouTube - kouhatsu's Channel

    Probably more on the way.

    Good find
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  • KerseyKersey Cyrax Wins Joined: Posts: 504
    New videos just make me sad that this game is dead on GGPO.

    At least it is when my ass can get on.
  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    I think this is the whole KO-HATSU tournament uploaded on nicovideo complete with infinites and Ex characters:


    KO-HATSU???????1??????2??????????????(9)
    These guys seem to be closer to TRF level then to A-Cho level , unfortunately...

    Also found these gems:



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  • NocturnalNocturnal SNK Supporter Joined: Posts: 2,977 mod
    Another new Ko-hatsu match is up:

    youtube channel = jaimedl
    twitch channel = jaimedl
    twitter = NocturnalSRK
  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    So apparently there is going to be a big tourney in Shanghai soon with most of the big name Chinese players attending. I'm not sure as to the date, but I'm pretty sure the matches are going to be recorded.

    I'll post back with more info, as I learn it.
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  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    New Vids from Japan !!:
    Ryo vs TAk
    ?? vs R moon
    ?? vs ??&????
    ? vs ???

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    Great matches ~
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  • jedpossumjedpossum Ok, Darling Joined: Posts: 4,227
    Not as easily viewable as breakers revenge hitboxes, but here is the

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  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    Thanks jed, good work.
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  • hammerheadhammerhead Joined: Posts: 5
    I wanna know how to do those big turtles with Okina / the turtles come out random and faster than normal turtles too anybody know what im talking about?
  • -WiL--WiL- Out to Lunch Joined: Posts: 108
    Results from the 2nd Total Eclipse of Snk : Ryo wins for the 2nd year in a row.

    Top 3:
    ? ??????? ????? ?????????????
    ???RYO???
    ?????????
    3??R-MOON???????

    Top 8 Finalists:
    ???????? ??????????????????
    ???????
    RYO???
    777????
    ?? ?????
    ?????????
    ???????
    ?????
    R-MOON???????


    You can watch the recorded finals here:
    ??2011 THE 9th ARCADIA CUP TOURNAMENT
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  • jamiejame911jamiejame911 Ever learning Joined: Posts: 424
    Great stuff WiL. Did that tourney have rules? Was Zan banned?

    I've been working on my Moriya. I think it is going to take me a few years to really get good with him. Question: What is the best way to short jump? I noticed that they changed it from LB1, which was pretty easy to do in just like MOTW. Now it seems WAY too touchy. Is it based on how hard or how fast/slow you tap up?
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  • Dracula_XDracula_X unblockable Joined: Posts: 915
    The low jump in lb2 is probably the most sensitive in any snk game. You need to barely tap uf/ub for it to come out
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