Siberian Technology: Zangief Frame Data

bitbna1bitbna1 Joined: Posts: 897
Screens from the Guide:
Spoiler:

Let's discuss some usages for his normals with our new data. His stuff seems really ridiculous for frame trapping. Definitely more happy with this than what we got in SSF4 & AE.
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  • kraalkraal Joined: Posts: 516 ✭✭
    Thanks for this post! Do you have the frame data for double suplex ? (360K)
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  • bitbna1bitbna1 Joined: Posts: 897
    Thanks for this post! Do you have the frame data for double suplex ? (360K)

    The startup listed is 8 frames for the 360K motion. So assuming you release the button as fast as possible you can start the grab check in 8 frames.

    Just to clarify, the way Gief's grab functions in this game is pretty interesting. You startup the motion, and on release the grab checks to see if the opponent is in grab range. If not Gief starts up his RBG. EX on the other hand starts up in 4 frames, making it one of the fastest possible options for Gief.

    Also, updated the thread with the missing screens.
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  • zzangmoozzangmoo Joined: Posts: 1
    Do you have the frame data for ultracombo1? (360 KKK)
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  • bitbna1bitbna1 Joined: Posts: 897
    Do you have the frame data for ultracombo1? (360 KKK)

    I updated the original post with the missing screens. 360KKK is pretty ridiculous in this game.

    Also, good to see top Gief's on SRK. Really enjoy watching your technical style.
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  • HoblinoHoblino Joined: Posts: 270
    This is great. I think Zangief's normals are pretty good overall, as they were in SF4.

    One question: In the Cancellable column, what does the "SM, EX, SA, CA" mean? I'm guessing it means Special Move, EX Move, Super Art and... something else?
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  • ViddVidd Joined: Posts: 518
    SM: Special Move
    EX: EX Special Move
    SA: Super Art
    CA: Cross Art/Cross Assault

    My guide just arrived today. :)
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  • bitbna1bitbna1 Joined: Posts: 897
    Anyone else enjoying pressure with mp - lk xx lp GH pressure. Pretty much a total Day 1 tactic but it's hard to deal with if you are playing against someone who isn't really educated in frame data.
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  • HoblinoHoblino Joined: Posts: 270
    The first pic! It is down! I needs it!

    Edit: Wait! The standing normals seem to be duplicated in the second pic anyway. Whew!
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  • bitbna1bitbna1 Joined: Posts: 897
    Rehosted the image. Do you know if tinypic just drops images over time or this is just a one time thing.
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  • HoblinoHoblino Joined: Posts: 270
    I have no idea. I know that SOME image hosting sites will temporarilly disable an image if it gets too much traffic. But I think this time it was just a glitch or something.
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