Skull Girls Story Discussion Thread: ALERT! SPOILERS INBOUND!

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  • CellsaiCellsai A Debby Downer Joined: Posts: 178
    Isn't it like, really obvious?

    Marie's killing families related to the Medicis.
    Filia's family is related to the Medicis.
    Marie met Filia before their confrontation in her story mode.

    It's actually so obvious I don't really believe it. (See below)
    This may be true, but then again, there's some evidence stating that Marie hasn't started her Medici slaughter fest prior to Filia's arrival to the Grand Cathedral.

    Before Filia fights Marie, she sometimes says, "I'll wipe all horrors from this world, starting with you." or, "All the Medici will follow you to hell."

    Except that Marie only attacks you using the corpses of all the mafia goons she's already killed ;D I think Marie's line to Filia might just be dramatic writing instead of factually accurate (or as accurate as you can get in multiple non canonical plot lines). Cerebella and Peacock's storylines directly lay out that she's been offing the Medici's for quite a while.

    Anyway, my personal take on all of this is (and beware, large amounts of mostly baseless speculation is to follow) that one of the Medici's offed Filia's parents and blamed it on the Skullgirl. I'm going this route mainly because it would just be too obvious for Marie to have killed Filia's parents. By the end of her storyline everyone knows she's the daughter of someone very high in the Family. Everyone also knows Marie is killing the Medici. It slots together too nicely.
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  • OsmiumsmithOsmiumsmith Joined: Posts: 340
    We really need the voices on the sound test options.

    Next patch maybe.
  • CellsaiCellsai A Debby Downer Joined: Posts: 178
    We really need the voices on the sound test options.

    Next patch maybe.
    But that's spoil all this speculation!
    This is one of the few times I'm glad there's no sound test.
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  • OsmiumsmithOsmiumsmith Joined: Posts: 340
    But that's spoil all this speculation!
    This is one of the few times I'm glad there's no sound test.
    Actually they are feeding the speculation. The new Fillia voice quotes ressurrected this thread.

    Also, only the battle voices. Not the story mode ones (if there is any).
  • 0chocolachao00chocolachao0 Your Drunk Roomate Joined: Posts: 160
    Unfortunately, I only hear Filia and Samson say new quotes to Cerebella and Marie, so I'm officially out of material to work with. :sweat:
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  • CellsaiCellsai A Debby Downer Joined: Posts: 178
    Actually they are feeding the speculation. The new Fillia voice quotes ressurrected this thread.

    Also, only the battle voices. Not the story mode ones (if there is any).
    Yar, but if they were all just available in a sound test we'd run out of material in a week. Now get to drip feed them speculations.
    Unfortunately, I only hear Filia and Samson say new quotes to Cerebella and Marie, so I'm officially out of material to work with. :sweat:
    Oh, they actually got new lines in the patch? Awesome. Didn't realize that.
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  • CellsaiCellsai A Debby Downer Joined: Posts: 178
    There are always more stones to turn over.
    Someone on the Facebook page pointed out that Valentine's Spanish story mode has different dialogue to the English version, specifically after she gets the Skullheart, so I went snooping and sure enough..

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    As far as I'm aware, Last Hope's names had not been revealed before?
    The text reads "Rest in peace, my friends. Christmas, Patty, Easter and Hallow."
    The next pages goes on to say something like "Without your sacrifice I could never have defeated her" (referencing Marie I assume)

    Christmas, Easter and Hallow(een) are all self explanatory, but is Patty supposed to be St. Patrick's Day?

    I'm assuming it is for the moment.

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    I'm guessing the four are from he top going clockwise: Patty, Hallow, Christmas and Easter.
    Patty is green, Hallow is scary, Easter sort of has bunny ears and Christmas... is well, she's the last one left. Red and white is sort of Christmasy?

    This makes me wonder what other nuggets are hidden in the other translations.
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  • LKArtilleryLKArtillery and bullets too slow Joined: Posts: 553
    Ah, that confirms that... *0 * I'd heard that Last Hope was all named after holidays. Nice find, yo. Your guess is as good as mine when it comes to which name belongs to which member, but your guess seems pretty reasonable so I think that's what I'm going to go with for now, ahaha...

    It's kind of weird for me that there's a Patty now, though, because that's kind of my pet name for Peacock ;-;

    Anyway, if this is the case, then it's probably worth it to ask around and see if anyone who played SG in a different language (any different language) noticed anything different about the lines.
  • CellsaiCellsai A Debby Downer Joined: Posts: 178
    Anyway, if this is the case, then it's probably worth it to ask around and see if anyone who played SG in a different language (any different language) noticed anything different about the lines.
    I might stick a request for just that on the Facebook page. I just went through all the Minette parts of Ms. Fortune's story in Spanish, but there was nothing new XD
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  • CellsaiCellsai A Debby Downer Joined: Posts: 178
    I asked Alex on the stream about Last Hope.

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    Clockwise from the top - Easter, Hallow, Christmas and Patty.

    Also, Squigly was described as being able to speak, but she has the ability 'to manipulate space', so her voice is very echoey.

    Big Band and Illeum have experience dealing with previous Skullgirls. Big Band is described as being very protective. He's actually encased entirely in an iron lung - the legs sticking out the bottom are robotic.

    Feng will no longer have the Salamander parasites. The two 'ghost birds' on her head would be the focus of her acrobatic fighting style.

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    There's *something* hidden behind Black Dahlia's mask, but it is hidden for a reason so he wouldn't elaborate. Her fighting style was described as tricky and cruel.
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  • CellsaiCellsai A Debby Downer Joined: Posts: 178
    Some more tidbits:

    Peacock's eyes were green before she uh.. got her makeover.

    Panzerfaust was part of Lab 14 (I think that was the number), which specializes in super soldier creation.

    All of the ninja nurses were all part of Lab 7. Last Hope were the final 5 ninjas before they met Marie. Lab 7 specialized in anti-drug enforcement.

    And as I figured before, Black Dahlia has an interesting scar across her waist. Black Dahlia from real history was cut in half. (It might be just an error but notice her ear is not pointed like in that one shot in the game)

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    EDIT: Some more stuff:

    Squigly is supposed to be Filia's rival and is sort of her opposite. Leviathan is more cultured than the gruff Samson. He's more in sync with Squigs than Samson is with Filia. Samson tends to wear the pants in that relationship while Leviathan and Squigs are equals. Samson and Leviathan know each other.
    Her death and subsequent zombism is related to a skullgirl, but not specifically Marie.

    Gameplay wise she has a Divekick, but it's more like Ragna's than Yun's, meaning it has a followup.

    Other details: Feng currently has no last name.

    This was already known, but the there are three kingdoms in Skullgirls: Canopy, Chess and Gigans. The Gigans are still 'giant beserker demons'.
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  • QohelethQoheleth Absolute Beginner Joined: Posts: 45
    Panzerfaust was part of Lab 14 (I think that was the number), which specializes in super soldier creation.
    IIRC it was Lab 3.
    Lab 7 specialized in anti-drug enforcement.
    Not anti-drug enforcement. Use of drugs in enforcement. Like those MKUltra experiments where they tried to invent a truth serum or learn how to use LSD for character assassination/interrogation.

    Also: in-universe, the "upside down cross" is a symbol of the Divine Trinity - Aeon, Venus, and Mother together at the bottom, with a line to the heavens.
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  • CellsaiCellsai A Debby Downer Joined: Posts: 178
    IIRC it was Lab 3.

    Not anti-drug enforcement. Use of drugs in enforcement. Like those MKUltra experiments where they tried to invent a truth serum or learn how to use LSD for character assassination/interrogation.

    Also: in-universe, the "upside down cross" is a symbol of the Divine Trinity - Aeon, Venus, and Mother together at the bottom, with a line to the heavens.
    Thank you! I was cooking at that point in the stream and couldn't hear so good!
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  • DravidianDravidian He who is CAT Joined: Posts: 702

    And as I figured before, Black Dahlia has an interesting scar across her waist. Black Dahlia from real history was cut in half. (It might be just an error but notice her ear is not pointed like in that one shot in the game)


    Who wants to bet that the last Skullgirl was cut in half (Perhaps by Annie of the Stars)?

    That's right. I'm implying that Dahlia is Parasouls mom :coffee:
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  • The MartianThe Martian Web-headed scrub. Joined: Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One thing that's always intrigued me about this game is the contrast between it's visual style and the story.

    For such a bright, colorful and artsy game, there is some dark shit going on. Like the Mafia killing Squigly's entire family and stitching her mouth shut.
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  • QohelethQoheleth Absolute Beginner Joined: Posts: 45
    Who wants to bet that the last Skullgirl was cut in half (Perhaps by Annie of the Stars)?

    That's right. I'm implying that Dahlia is Parasouls mom :coffee:
    Unfortunately for this theory, Alex mentioned on the stream last night that Black Dahlia was one of the earlier graduates of the Anti-Skullgirl Labs.
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  • DravidianDravidian He who is CAT Joined: Posts: 702
    Unfortunately for this theory, Alex mentioned on the stream last night that Black Dahlia was one of the earlier graduates of the Anti-Skullgirl Labs.
    aaaawwwwww :(
    Well maybe one my other theories will come true...
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  • not so saintnot so saint The reports of my death are GREATLY exaggerated. Joined: Posts: 1,948
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47251574&postcount=3834/
    Peter is giving some story-related answers. I like this one though: "Living weapons like Vice-Versa are artificially-created and non-sentient, and can usually only be controlled by people in a certain bloodline." It implies that Bella belongs to certain family, members of which are only ones able to control VV. Makes you wonder who they were.
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  • SpaceOutNightmareSpaceOutNightmare Stays Sandbaggin' Joined: Posts: 2,336 ✭✭
    Cerebella is probably heir to the Chess kingdom, or at least a defender of some kind of royalty, "certain bloodlines" usually implies shit like that.

    I want to know more about Feng, no last name is probably on purpose, who is she, is she also from the Chess kingdom?

    Also, is Annie an actual hero, a real person, or is just an actor that portrays that?

    Also, fucking lol at Parasoul's icon being the holy trinity's.

    THAT MEANS NO SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN CANOPY KINGDOM

    THE TRINITY HAVE NOTHING GOOD PLANNED.

    THIS IS SOME REAL DARK SHIT.
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  • not so saintnot so saint The reports of my death are GREATLY exaggerated. Joined: Posts: 1,948
    Also, is Annie an actual hero, a real person, or is just an actor that portrays that?
    It is a real person (eternally young it looks like) who act as character with the same name in the show. Alex was saying that her in-character personality differs from her actual one.
    Also, fucking lol at Parasoul's icon being the holy trinity's.

    THAT MEANS NO SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN CANOPY KINGDOM
    Not necessarily. She could just be religious herself personally.
    It will be done as it was foretold for we are servants of the Skully Ones and we will consume tuna with bacon and we will party for days and nights without rest and we no need other fate despite this one! For we are what we are and we will kneel before no one >=[
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  • SpaceOutNightmareSpaceOutNightmare Stays Sandbaggin' Joined: Posts: 2,336 ✭✭
    It is a real person (eternally young it looks like) who act as character with the same name in the show. Alex was saying that her in-character personality differs from her actual one.

    Not necessarily. She could just be religious herself personally.
    True enough.

    It's not like her army uses that icon, they use an parasoul/umbrella.

    I never did her story, anyone got anything on her religious affiliation?

    Also, anyone think that there's more between Valentine and Parasoul, whenever Valentine tags in Parasoul, she says her name with a great deal of disdain.

    I know it seems like "she betrayed" Canopy, but I think they may have been friends, considering they both have tastes in similar things, have similar ages, and when Valentine says "they won't follow you, once they see me", just seems kind of playful.
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  • not so saintnot so saint The reports of my death are GREATLY exaggerated. Joined: Posts: 1,948
    True enough.

    It's not like her army uses that icon, they use an parasoul/umbrella.

    I never did her story, anyone got anything on her religious affiliation?

    Also, anyone think that there's more between Valentine and Parasoul, whenever Valentine tags in Parasoul, she says her name with a great deal of disdain.

    I know it seems like "she betrayed" Canopy, but I think they may have been friends, considering they both have tastes in similar things, have similar ages, and when Valentine says "they won't follow you, once they see me", just seems kind of playful.
    I can't recall her saying something trinity-related but that was a while ago.
    Valentine-Parasoul could be a thing, good guess!
    It will be done as it was foretold for we are servants of the Skully Ones and we will consume tuna with bacon and we will party for days and nights without rest and we no need other fate despite this one! For we are what we are and we will kneel before no one >=[
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  • Nap1400Nap1400 Finally unlurking Joined: Posts: 20
    You know, there's something that interested me about Parsoul and Valentine. Look at their portraits for a moment.
    Spoiler:

    Notice what they have in common: Both of their left eyes are covered. Parasoul's by her bangs and Valentine by her eyepatch. They just never look that way in-game because the eyes covered switch depending on the direction they're facing. I wonder if this implies that they had any similar experiences?...
  • SpaceOutNightmareSpaceOutNightmare Stays Sandbaggin' Joined: Posts: 2,336 ✭✭
    I'm more than inclined to believe that Valentine and Parasoul were friends when they were younger.

    Parasoul was going through princess training and getting tired, Valentine was doing whatever (maybe drugs, maybe last hope training) and getting tired, they met up on the streets of new meridian, had a fun night running through the town, decided to meet up a few more times, something happened, and they stopped meeting up.

    Years later they see each other and act like they've never met.

    It'd be pretty nutty that for some reason they decided to give each other their left eyes.
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  • QohelethQoheleth Absolute Beginner Joined: Posts: 45
    Also, fucking lol at Parasoul's icon being the holy trinity's.

    THAT MEANS NO SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN CANOPY KINGDOM

    THE TRINITY HAVE NOTHING GOOD PLANNED.

    THIS IS SOME REAL DARK SHIT.
    Not necessarily. She could just be religious herself personally.

    See, it's funny, because in all of Parasoul's Double-specific lines she calls her a "demon".

    Whether the Church of the Divine Trinity is a state religion or just something Parasoul is devout about, when she finds out that Double and the Skull Heart and so forth are legit working for the Great Mother she's going to flip.
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  • CellsaiCellsai A Debby Downer Joined: Posts: 178
    There's definitely a relationship between Valentine and Parasoul in some form going on, and clearly one built on disdain. It might be as simple as Valentine blaming Parasoul as leader of the Canopy Kingdom for the deaths of Last Hope, but I imagine there's something more to it than that.

    I thought Alex mentioned at some point that there's nothing wrong with Parasoul's eye anymore, she just wears her hair down over it. I can't remember where I heard that though so I could have just made that up.

    As for Annie's alternate personalities:

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    I gather she's like Baby Herman from Who Framed Roger Rabbit? All sweetness and innocence on TV and then a gruff tomboy off camera.
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  • SpaceOutNightmareSpaceOutNightmare Stays Sandbaggin' Joined: Posts: 2,336 ✭✭
    Valentine, Parasoul, and Annie all have their left eyes covered.

    A fashion statement in Canopy?
    Are both Valentine and Parasoul Annie fans?
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  • AsteriskBlueAsteriskBlue Joined: Posts: 475
    The neogaf post also says that Bell killing Ms. Fortune isn't canon. I like this. It's more logical
    I thought Alex mentioned at some point that there's nothing wrong with Parasoul's eye anymore, she just wears her hair down over it. I can't remember where I heard that though so I could have just made that up.
    Wait she has both eyes in this version?? I need confirmation A.S.A.P.!
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    Valentine, Parasoul, and Annie all have their left eyes covered.
    Uh, right?
    Why.
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    Uh, right?
    Oh shit.
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  • Chrono_TataChrono_Tata Joined: Posts: 12
    A less exciting "theory" would be that for characters with one eye covered, it's more practical artistically to cover the one that is not facing the player. This way the uncovered eye is more prominent in the in-game character sprite. So they end up all having the same side covered.
  • joe2187joe2187 Joined: Posts: 58
    Valentine, Parasoul, and Annie all have their left eyes covered.

    A fashion statement in Canopy?
    Are both Valentine and Parasoul Annie fans?

    id say thats true for parasoul at least

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  • Jet Set DizzyJet Set Dizzy Night of the Defender Joined: Posts: 2,270
    Squigly's eye is covered too, lol. According to old concept arts the covered eye is missing and you can see leviathan passing through the socket.
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    Disguised Parasoul for DLC outfit please.

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  • not so saintnot so saint The reports of my death are GREATLY exaggerated. Joined: Posts: 1,948
    Disguised Parasoul for DLC outfit please.

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    Not sure if you're joking, but just in case you don't: there won't be DLC reskins for SG which require additional clothes or items because of game using frame-by-frame animation. If Lab0 will make another version of the same character they'll going to not only change her(his) appearance but entire moveset and animations (think of EX characters for KOF XIII).
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  • Chrono_TataChrono_Tata Joined: Posts: 12
    I was joking of course. :P Not that I don't secretly wish for it though.
  • Jet Set DizzyJet Set Dizzy Night of the Defender Joined: Posts: 2,270
    Looks like Squigly's missing eye is still a thing.
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  • BrailBrail Joined: Posts: 1
    I love the way they decided to do the plot layout. Reminds me of Blaz Blue. The overlapping details of the cannon story in each characters game, but each ending is only an eventuality and not a canonized plot. And then all of Tue stories converge to reveal the true plot once you've done everything else. So dope! Oh and the fact that once you heat the game with everyone Valentine, and Double's stories make a lot of sense lol
  • TheFishWizardTheFishWizard Spelling Conosore Joined: Posts: 2
    Just going to put down a couple thoughts on the story mode here.
    At the end of Doubles story she consumes all of the candidates because she says shes found a new one. I would just assume that she chose Umbrella because of her skull heart connection and what not but she never elaborates on it.
    I think that there is an inconsistency in Valentines story, Marie tells Valentine to go down to Lab 8 and destroy it but doesn't tell her not to kill Peacock like in Doubles story. I would think that the differences in the stories dont go all the way back to Marie and Peacocks friendship or it doesnt seem like they do, so I dont understand why Marie would still try to keep her promise with Peacock.
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    Just going to put down a couple thoughts on the story mode here.
    At the end of Doubles story she consumes all of the candidates because she says shes found a new one. I would just assume that she chose Umbrella because of her skull heart connection and what not but she never elaborates on it.
    I think that there is an inconsistency in Valentines story, Marie tells Valentine to go down to Lab 8 and destroy it but doesn't tell her not to kill Peacock like in Doubles story. I would think that the differences in the stories dont go all the way back to Marie and Peacocks friendship or it doesnt seem like they do, so I dont understand why Marie would still try to keep her promise with Peacock.

    You do realize that Peacock and Marie's friendship is mentioned in several story modes, right?


    Even then, I don't think Marie even asked Valentine to kill the test subjects. All she said was to destroy the lab. She didn't say "Go down to Lab 8, destroy the building, kill everyone, and pick me up a Subway sandwich on your way back, mmkka'y?"
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  • Dragonage2ftwDragonage2ftw Joined: Posts: 150
    Austin_QED wrote: »
    I don't like all the flak that people give Cerebella's ending.

    A lot of people forget Fortune's goals, to kill the Medicis. ("Your bosses are NEXT!")

    Hell, Ms.Fortune and her group are ultimately in the wrong here.

    They went to steal something, got caught, killed for trespassing, and Ms.Fortune isn't even advocating that she's justice, she just wants revenge, and that's understandable.

    It's also understandable to kill for your father.

    My father was one of the worst human beings in his later years, and I mean, BAD.

    But if someone was to put a gun to his head, you'd bet your ass I'd go after that man.

    @LK:We'll have to wait for Leviathan and Squigly, if Squigly's memory is gone, maybe it's just a parasite thing.

    Cerebella isn't her dad. I wouldn't even say he's her "father figure" like the developers claim, given her ending.
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