Marie's killing families related to the Medicis.
Filia's family is related to the Medicis.
Marie met Filia before their confrontation in her story mode.
It's actually so obvious I don't really believe it. (See below)
This may be true, but then again, there's some evidence stating that Marie hasn't started her Medici slaughter fest prior to Filia's arrival to the Grand Cathedral.
Before Filia fights Marie, she sometimes says, "I'll wipe all horrors from this world, starting with you." or, "All the Medici will follow you to hell."
Except that Marie only attacks you using the corpses of all the mafia goons she's already killed ;D I think Marie's line to Filia might just be dramatic writing instead of factually accurate (or as accurate as you can get in multiple non canonical plot lines). Cerebella and Peacock's storylines directly lay out that she's been offing the Medici's for quite a while.
Anyway, my personal take on all of this is (and beware, large amounts of mostly baseless speculation is to follow) that one of the Medici's offed Filia's parents and blamed it on the Skullgirl. I'm going this route mainly because it would just be too obvious for Marie to have killed Filia's parents. By the end of her storyline everyone knows she's the daughter of someone very high in the Family. Everyone also knows Marie is killing the Medici. It slots together too nicely.
There are always more stones to turn over.
Someone on the Facebook page pointed out that Valentine's Spanish story mode has different dialogue to the English version, specifically after she gets the Skullheart, so I went snooping and sure enough..
As far as I'm aware, Last Hope's names had not been revealed before?
The text reads "Rest in peace, my friends. Christmas, Patty, Easter and Hallow."
The next pages goes on to say something like "Without your sacrifice I could never have defeated her" (referencing Marie I assume)
Christmas, Easter and Hallow(een) are all self explanatory, but is Patty supposed to be St. Patrick's Day?
I'm assuming it is for the moment.
I'm guessing the four are from he top going clockwise: Patty, Hallow, Christmas and Easter.
Patty is green, Hallow is scary, Easter sort of has bunny ears and Christmas... is well, she's the last one left. Red and white is sort of Christmasy?
This makes me wonder what other nuggets are hidden in the other translations.
Ah, that confirms that... *0 * I'd heard that Last Hope was all named after holidays. Nice find, yo. Your guess is as good as mine when it comes to which name belongs to which member, but your guess seems pretty reasonable so I think that's what I'm going to go with for now, ahaha...
It's kind of weird for me that there's a Patty now, though, because that's kind of my pet name for Peacock ;-;
Anyway, if this is the case, then it's probably worth it to ask around and see if anyone who played SG in a different language (any different language) noticed anything different about the lines.
Anyway, if this is the case, then it's probably worth it to ask around and see if anyone who played SG in a different language (any different language) noticed anything different about the lines.
I might stick a request for just that on the Facebook page. I just went through all the Minette parts of Ms. Fortune's story in Spanish, but there was nothing new XD
Clockwise from the top - Easter, Hallow, Christmas and Patty.
Also, Squigly was described as being able to speak, but she has the ability 'to manipulate space', so her voice is very echoey.
Big Band and Illeum have experience dealing with previous Skullgirls. Big Band is described as being very protective. He's actually encased entirely in an iron lung - the legs sticking out the bottom are robotic.
Feng will no longer have the Salamander parasites. The two 'ghost birds' on her head would be the focus of her acrobatic fighting style.
There's *something* hidden behind Black Dahlia's mask, but it is hidden for a reason so he wouldn't elaborate. Her fighting style was described as tricky and cruel.
Peacock's eyes were green before she uh.. got her makeover.
Panzerfaust was part of Lab 14 (I think that was the number), which specializes in super soldier creation.
All of the ninja nurses were all part of Lab 7. Last Hope were the final 5 ninjas before they met Marie. Lab 7 specialized in anti-drug enforcement.
And as I figured before, Black Dahlia has an interesting scar across her waist. Black Dahlia from real history was cut in half. (It might be just an error but notice her ear is not pointed like in that one shot in the game)
EDIT: Some more stuff:
Squigly is supposed to be Filia's rival and is sort of her opposite. Leviathan is more cultured than the gruff Samson. He's more in sync with Squigs than Samson is with Filia. Samson tends to wear the pants in that relationship while Leviathan and Squigs are equals. Samson and Leviathan know each other.
Her death and subsequent zombism is related to a skullgirl, but not specifically Marie.
Gameplay wise she has a Divekick, but it's more like Ragna's than Yun's, meaning it has a followup.
Other details: Feng currently has no last name.
This was already known, but the there are three kingdoms in Skullgirls: Canopy, Chess and Gigans. The Gigans are still 'giant beserker demons'.
Not anti-drug enforcement. Use of drugs in enforcement. Like those MKUltra experiments where they tried to invent a truth serum or learn how to use LSD for character assassination/interrogation.
Also: in-universe, the "upside down cross" is a symbol of the Divine Trinity - Aeon, Venus, and Mother together at the bottom, with a line to the heavens.
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Not anti-drug enforcement. Use of drugs in enforcement. Like those MKUltra experiments where they tried to invent a truth serum or learn how to use LSD for character assassination/interrogation.
Also: in-universe, the "upside down cross" is a symbol of the Divine Trinity - Aeon, Venus, and Mother together at the bottom, with a line to the heavens.
Thank you! I was cooking at that point in the stream and couldn't hear so good!
And as I figured before, Black Dahlia has an interesting scar across her waist. Black Dahlia from real history was cut in half. (It might be just an error but notice her ear is not pointed like in that one shot in the game)
Who wants to bet that the last Skullgirl was cut in half (Perhaps by Annie of the Stars)?
That's right. I'm implying that Dahlia is Parasouls mom
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One thing that's always intrigued me about this game is the contrast between it's visual style and the story.
For such a bright, colorful and artsy game, there is some dark shit going on. Like the Mafia killing Squigly's entire family and stitching her mouth shut.
Who wants to bet that the last Skullgirl was cut in half (Perhaps by Annie of the Stars)?
That's right. I'm implying that Dahlia is Parasouls mom
Unfortunately for this theory, Alex mentioned on the stream last night that Black Dahlia was one of the earlier graduates of the Anti-Skullgirl Labs.
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Peter is giving some story-related answers. I like this one though: "Living weapons like Vice-Versa are artificially-created and non-sentient, and can usually only be controlled by people in a certain bloodline." It implies that Bella belongs to certain family, members of which are only ones able to control VV. Makes you wonder who they were.
It will be done as it was foretold for we are servants of the Skully Ones and we will consume tuna with bacon and we will party for days and nights without rest and we no need other fate despite this one! For we are what we are and we will kneel before no one >=[ "Russian science rise again!"
Also, is Annie an actual hero, a real person, or is just an actor that portrays that?
It is a real person (eternally young it looks like) who act as character with the same name in the show. Alex was saying that her in-character personality differs from her actual one.
Also, fucking lol at Parasoul's icon being the holy trinity's.
THAT MEANS NO SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN CANOPY KINGDOM
Not necessarily. She could just be religious herself personally.
It will be done as it was foretold for we are servants of the Skully Ones and we will consume tuna with bacon and we will party for days and nights without rest and we no need other fate despite this one! For we are what we are and we will kneel before no one >=[ "Russian science rise again!"
It is a real person (eternally young it looks like) who act as character with the same name in the show. Alex was saying that her in-character personality differs from her actual one.
Not necessarily. She could just be religious herself personally.
True enough.
It's not like her army uses that icon, they use an parasoul/umbrella.
I never did her story, anyone got anything on her religious affiliation?
Also, anyone think that there's more between Valentine and Parasoul, whenever Valentine tags in Parasoul, she says her name with a great deal of disdain.
I know it seems like "she betrayed" Canopy, but I think they may have been friends, considering they both have tastes in similar things, have similar ages, and when Valentine says "they won't follow you, once they see me", just seems kind of playful.
Thinking about redoing BOB tournament for the patch, anyone game?
It's not like her army uses that icon, they use an parasoul/umbrella.
I never did her story, anyone got anything on her religious affiliation?
Also, anyone think that there's more between Valentine and Parasoul, whenever Valentine tags in Parasoul, she says her name with a great deal of disdain.
I know it seems like "she betrayed" Canopy, but I think they may have been friends, considering they both have tastes in similar things, have similar ages, and when Valentine says "they won't follow you, once they see me", just seems kind of playful.
I can't recall her saying something trinity-related but that was a while ago.
Valentine-Parasoul could be a thing, good guess!
It will be done as it was foretold for we are servants of the Skully Ones and we will consume tuna with bacon and we will party for days and nights without rest and we no need other fate despite this one! For we are what we are and we will kneel before no one >=[ "Russian science rise again!"
You know, there's something that interested me about Parsoul and Valentine. Look at their portraits for a moment.
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Notice what they have in common: Both of their left eyes are covered. Parasoul's by her bangs and Valentine by her eyepatch. They just never look that way in-game because the eyes covered switch depending on the direction they're facing. I wonder if this implies that they had any similar experiences?...
I'm more than inclined to believe that Valentine and Parasoul were friends when they were younger.
Parasoul was going through princess training and getting tired, Valentine was doing whatever (maybe drugs, maybe last hope training) and getting tired, they met up on the streets of new meridian, had a fun night running through the town, decided to meet up a few more times, something happened, and they stopped meeting up.
Years later they see each other and act like they've never met.
It'd be pretty nutty that for some reason they decided to give each other their left eyes.
Thinking about redoing BOB tournament for the patch, anyone game?
Not necessarily. She could just be religious herself personally.
See, it's funny, because in all of Parasoul's Double-specific lines she calls her a "demon".
Whether the Church of the Divine Trinity is a state religion or just something Parasoul is devout about, when she finds out that Double and the Skull Heart and so forth are legit working for the Great Mother she's going to flip.
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There's definitely a relationship between Valentine and Parasoul in some form going on, and clearly one built on disdain. It might be as simple as Valentine blaming Parasoul as leader of the Canopy Kingdom for the deaths of Last Hope, but I imagine there's something more to it than that.
I thought Alex mentioned at some point that there's nothing wrong with Parasoul's eye anymore, she just wears her hair down over it. I can't remember where I heard that though so I could have just made that up.
As for Annie's alternate personalities:
I gather she's like Baby Herman from Who Framed Roger Rabbit? All sweetness and innocence on TV and then a gruff tomboy off camera.
I thought Alex mentioned at some point that there's nothing wrong with Parasoul's eye anymore, she just wears her hair down over it. I can't remember where I heard that though so I could have just made that up.
Wait she has both eyes in this version?? I need confirmation A.S.A.P.!
A less exciting "theory" would be that for characters with one eye covered, it's more practical artistically to cover the one that is not facing the player. This way the uncovered eye is more prominent in the in-game character sprite. So they end up all having the same side covered.
Not sure if you're joking, but just in case you don't: there won't be DLC reskins for SG which require additional clothes or items because of game using frame-by-frame animation. If Lab0 will make another version of the same character they'll going to not only change her(his) appearance but entire moveset and animations (think of EX characters for KOF XIII).
It will be done as it was foretold for we are servants of the Skully Ones and we will consume tuna with bacon and we will party for days and nights without rest and we no need other fate despite this one! For we are what we are and we will kneel before no one >=[ "Russian science rise again!"
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It's actually so obvious I don't really believe it. (See below)
Except that Marie only attacks you using the corpses of all the mafia goons she's already killed ;D I think Marie's line to Filia might just be dramatic writing instead of factually accurate (or as accurate as you can get in multiple non canonical plot lines). Cerebella and Peacock's storylines directly lay out that she's been offing the Medici's for quite a while.
Anyway, my personal take on all of this is (and beware, large amounts of mostly baseless speculation is to follow) that one of the Medici's offed Filia's parents and blamed it on the Skullgirl. I'm going this route mainly because it would just be too obvious for Marie to have killed Filia's parents. By the end of her storyline everyone knows she's the daughter of someone very high in the Family. Everyone also knows Marie is killing the Medici. It slots together too nicely.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeSomeone on the Facebook page pointed out that Valentine's Spanish story mode has different dialogue to the English version, specifically after she gets the Skullheart, so I went snooping and sure enough..
As far as I'm aware, Last Hope's names had not been revealed before?
The text reads "Rest in peace, my friends. Christmas, Patty, Easter and Hallow."
The next pages goes on to say something like "Without your sacrifice I could never have defeated her" (referencing Marie I assume)
Christmas, Easter and Hallow(een) are all self explanatory, but is Patty supposed to be St. Patrick's Day?
I'm assuming it is for the moment.
I'm guessing the four are from he top going clockwise: Patty, Hallow, Christmas and Easter.
Patty is green, Hallow is scary, Easter sort of has bunny ears and Christmas... is well, she's the last one left. Red and white is sort of Christmasy?
This makes me wonder what other nuggets are hidden in the other translations.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeIt's kind of weird for me that there's a Patty now, though, because that's kind of my pet name for Peacock ;-;
Anyway, if this is the case, then it's probably worth it to ask around and see if anyone who played SG in a different language (any different language) noticed anything different about the lines.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeClockwise from the top - Easter, Hallow, Christmas and Patty.
Also, Squigly was described as being able to speak, but she has the ability 'to manipulate space', so her voice is very echoey.
Big Band and Illeum have experience dealing with previous Skullgirls. Big Band is described as being very protective. He's actually encased entirely in an iron lung - the legs sticking out the bottom are robotic.
Feng will no longer have the Salamander parasites. The two 'ghost birds' on her head would be the focus of her acrobatic fighting style.
There's *something* hidden behind Black Dahlia's mask, but it is hidden for a reason so he wouldn't elaborate. Her fighting style was described as tricky and cruel.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikePeacock's eyes were green before she uh.. got her makeover.
Panzerfaust was part of Lab 14 (I think that was the number), which specializes in super soldier creation.
All of the ninja nurses were all part of Lab 7. Last Hope were the final 5 ninjas before they met Marie. Lab 7 specialized in anti-drug enforcement.
And as I figured before, Black Dahlia has an interesting scar across her waist. Black Dahlia from real history was cut in half. (It might be just an error but notice her ear is not pointed like in that one shot in the game)
EDIT: Some more stuff:
Squigly is supposed to be Filia's rival and is sort of her opposite. Leviathan is more cultured than the gruff Samson. He's more in sync with Squigs than Samson is with Filia. Samson tends to wear the pants in that relationship while Leviathan and Squigs are equals. Samson and Leviathan know each other.
Her death and subsequent zombism is related to a skullgirl, but not specifically Marie.
Gameplay wise she has a Divekick, but it's more like Ragna's than Yun's, meaning it has a followup.
Other details: Feng currently has no last name.
This was already known, but the there are three kingdoms in Skullgirls: Canopy, Chess and Gigans. The Gigans are still 'giant beserker demons'.
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Also: in-universe, the "upside down cross" is a symbol of the Divine Trinity - Aeon, Venus, and Mother together at the bottom, with a line to the heavens.
But that's okay.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeI want to know more about Feng, no last name is probably on purpose, who is she, is she also from the Chess kingdom?
Also, is Annie an actual hero, a real person, or is just an actor that portrays that?
Also, fucking lol at Parasoul's icon being the holy trinity's.
THAT MEANS NO SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN CANOPY KINGDOM
THE TRINITY HAVE NOTHING GOOD PLANNED.
THIS IS SOME REAL DARK SHIT.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeIt's not like her army uses that icon, they use an parasoul/umbrella.
I never did her story, anyone got anything on her religious affiliation?
Also, anyone think that there's more between Valentine and Parasoul, whenever Valentine tags in Parasoul, she says her name with a great deal of disdain.
I know it seems like "she betrayed" Canopy, but I think they may have been friends, considering they both have tastes in similar things, have similar ages, and when Valentine says "they won't follow you, once they see me", just seems kind of playful.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeValentine-Parasoul could be a thing, good guess!
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeNotice what they have in common: Both of their left eyes are covered. Parasoul's by her bangs and Valentine by her eyepatch. They just never look that way in-game because the eyes covered switch depending on the direction they're facing. I wonder if this implies that they had any similar experiences?...
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeParasoul was going through princess training and getting tired, Valentine was doing whatever (maybe drugs, maybe last hope training) and getting tired, they met up on the streets of new meridian, had a fun night running through the town, decided to meet up a few more times, something happened, and they stopped meeting up.
Years later they see each other and act like they've never met.
It'd be pretty nutty that for some reason they decided to give each other their left eyes.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeSee, it's funny, because in all of Parasoul's Double-specific lines she calls her a "demon".
Whether the Church of the Divine Trinity is a state religion or just something Parasoul is devout about, when she finds out that Double and the Skull Heart and so forth are legit working for the Great Mother she's going to flip.
But that's okay.
Ain't nothing under the sun that lives forever.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeI thought Alex mentioned at some point that there's nothing wrong with Parasoul's eye anymore, she just wears her hair down over it. I can't remember where I heard that though so I could have just made that up.
As for Annie's alternate personalities:
I gather she's like Baby Herman from Who Framed Roger Rabbit? All sweetness and innocence on TV and then a gruff tomboy off camera.
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