Hardest Characters To Use?

REPTILE 0009REPTILE 0009 Joined: Posts: 83
Which characters in UMVC3 are the hardest to use? I’m talking in terms of accessibility, execution requirements, reliance on team synergy and assists, and just all around usability in an online or mid-level match.
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  • <Insert Name Here><Insert Name Here> No wonder with people like me SRK Marvel is dead Joined: Posts: 7,940
    I'd say Chun-Li.
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    MODOK, Spidey, Felicia, Jill, C. Viper, Rocket Raccoon, etc.
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    Iron Fist. Don't even bother.
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  • MetaSkipperMetaSkipper Pikachu used Surf! Joined: Posts: 1,556
    Wright's up there.
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    MODOK
    Viper
    Raccon
    Iron Fist
    Phoenix Wright
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    C. Viper
    Iron Fist
    Pheonix Wright
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    Phoenix Wright.
  • maziodynemaziodyne Demi-Fiend Joined: Posts: 7,748
    C.Viper
    MODOK
    Dr. Strange
    Jill
    Chun-Li
    Phoenix Wright
    Iron Man
    Magneto (can't just derp around with tridashes, mobility HAS to be on point otherwise dead Magnus)
    Rocket Raccoon

    Not sure about Spidey but these are the ones off the top of my head atm.
  • Evil-Bart2k11Evil-Bart2k11 Bring home the bacon! Joined: Posts: 239
    Wright, Jill, Viper & Rocket Raccoon.

    For me, these are the hardest to learn.
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    Zero, MODOK, Phoenix Wright, Doctor Strange, Strider (when he's not an anchor)
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  • SKOOKASTARSKOOKASTAR Joined: Posts: 36
    lol no one even remembers hsien-ko anymore
  • Kanta-KunKanta-Kun Magnudisto... BLAAAAAAAST Joined: Posts: 5,545
    Wesker

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    lol no one even remembers hsien-ko anymore
    I'm not sure what this "Hsien-Ko" is... But it sounds dissapointing.
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  • HonzogonzoHonzogonzo fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Joined: Posts: 3,302
    taskmaster is hardest to use, if they block against you you auto lose, bottom 5 char imo
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  • just5moreminutesjust5moreminutes Eagle will return Joined: Posts: 7,916
    Rocket Racoon, MODOK, Shuma, Chun-Li, Phoenix Wright, and "Bright" Phoenix.

    Hsien-Ko isn't hard to learn. That would imply that there is something useful to learn.
    EDIT: Hsien-Ko is a reverse Chuck Norris. She doesn't fight, you simply allow her to lose.
  • PongBoomPongBoom land of ice and snow Joined: Posts: 707
    taskmaster is hardest to use, if they block against you you auto lose, bottom 5 char imo

    the character with an unblockable has trouble against blocking.
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  • Rin TezukaRin Tezuka Forever Low Tier Joined: Posts: 53
    lol no one even remembers hsien-ko anymore

    I'm fairly certain I'm the only person who still uses her online anymore.
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    Hulk is hard to use.

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    Viper
    Iron Man
    Iron Fist
    Tron
    Hsien-Ko
    X23
    Chun-li
    Rocket Raccoon
    She Hulk
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  • EmilEmil Joined: Posts: 4,389
    I'd say Firebrand requires a lot of skill to control him properly, especially in the air.
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  • lawlHTlawlHT youtube player Joined: Posts: 535
    I'd say Firebrand requires a lot of skill to control him properly, especially in the air.

    lol no. Firebrand is fraud-friendly as can be. trust me, i have basically zero execution and i have no trouble at all moving around in the air.
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  • EmilEmil Joined: Posts: 4,389
    lol no. Firebrand is fraud-friendly as can be. trust me, i have basically zero execution and i have no trouble at all moving around in the air.

    Playing Firebrand like a fraud doesn't mean that's how he's supposed to be played.
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  • YawDanYawDan Joined: Posts: 697
    Playing Firebrand like a fraud doesn't mean that's how he's supposed to be played.

    I played Zak Bennett in my first tournament match ever last week, and I can wholeheartedly say HE IS FRAUD-FRIENDLY AS HECK! Lol, I'm playing, Firebrand isn't as capable in the air as some of the other characters, but he's got a 4-frame standing light which he can rapid press. And if you give him a lock down assist such as the cold star or tenderizer, he can use his airborne unblockable to open the opponent up. As I found out first hand lol
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  • lawlHTlawlHT youtube player Joined: Posts: 535
    Playing Firebrand like a fraud doesn't mean that's how he's supposed to be played.

    there is no secret to his air mobility. qcb m for forward, qcb h for backward. and regardless of how fraudulent i play him, he is not, by any means whatsoever, a difficult character to play.
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  • Smoothjazz101Smoothjazz101 Joined: Posts: 1,480
    I played Zak Bennett in my first tournament match ever last week, and I can wholeheartedly say HE IS FRAUD-FRIENDLY AS HECK! Lol, I'm playing, Firebrand isn't as capable in the air as some of the other characters, but he's got a 4-frame standing light which he can rapid press. And if you give him a lock down assist such as the cold star or tenderizer, he can use his airborne unblockable to open the opponent up. As I found out first hand lol
    He also has a move that leads to a free easy mode corner combo, that is +10 on block.
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  • RavenPawRavenPaw I am not nice, so fuck off Joined: Posts: 14
    i won't say c.viper, or Firebrand are hard to use.
    In my opinion the top 16 characters in no specific order to play as are:
    1. Modok
    2. Chun-li
    3. Mr. Wright
    4. Amy(glaive)
    5. She-hulk
    6. Ironfist
    7. Storm
    8. spiderman
    9. Dr. Doom(execution are above most characters)
    10. Dr. Strange(sorta)
    11. Magneto
    12. Dante
    13. Frank(lvl 1)
    14. viewful joe
    15. spencer
    16. Chris Redfield
  • KorbidonKorbidon Who can stand against such abominations? Joined: Posts: 4,543
    Doom? My execution sucks, and I can do Doom combos. Doom is easy mode.

    Same with Firebrand. The issue with Firebrand isn't execution, it's that he does no damage.

    Chunners, Modok, Viper and Spidey though are beyond me :(
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  • tick_tocktick_tock Joined: Posts: 655
    When you say hard I'm going to reply as if by hard you mean the toughest to maximize potential (not who is tough bc they are bad characters).

    Out of the characters I have real familiarity with I'm going to say x23. You need magic fingers to excel with her. Mirage feint cancels need to be performed extremely fast and you will pay with your characters life when you mess up. But, if you are feeling yourself in a match with her pressure can be relentless.

    Oh and I should add she doesn't have the high priority moves that other characters do which make here particularly challenging. When a fully charged slicer trades with some of the higher ranks normals you really need to be on top of your game.
  • LeonHeartLeonHeart True Patriot Joined: Posts: 135
    Viper.
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  • _Hamsworth__Hamsworth_ Stand-User Joined: Posts: 104
    The reason why Firebrand is hard to play is not his combos (which are piss easy), it's the awkward nature of his command dashes. It's very easy to make a Firebrand player commit to something unsafe if you know what you're doing. Something as simple as crossing him up while he is in SJ height (with a teleport for example) can have disastrous consequences and leave him doing a fireball or dashing in the wrong direction. He also has a hard time dealing with characters with big extendable hitboxes and invincible moves due to his short range normals (they're very good in other ways though). He also has no invincible moves for himself and despite his excellent escaping abilities in neutral, if someone is in on him, it can be hard to shake them.

    You CAN play him quite fraudulently, and I am pretty fraudulent myself but I think that the character has a fairly high ceiling and punishes you to a greater extent for making mistakes than some more forgiving characters

    His neutral game takes a lot of work, despite the fact that he does have Bon Voyage which is pretty braindead. Also, a lot of his set-ups have to expertly timed and spaced in order to stay safe, I think Capcom did a good job of balancing how hard it is to successfully pull of an almost inescapable unblockable/guard break.
  • DreizeDreize How quaint... Joined: Posts: 1,333
    i won't say c.viper, or Firebrand are hard to use.
    In my opinion the top 16 characters in no specific order to play as are:
    1. Modok
    2. Chun-li
    3. Mr. Wright
    4. Amy(glaive)
    5. She-hulk
    6. Ironfist
    7. Storm
    8. spiderman
    9. Dr. Doom(execution are above most characters)
    10. Dr. Strange(sorta)
    11. Magneto
    12. Dante
    13. Frank(lvl 1)
    14. viewful joe
    15. spencer
    16. Chris Redfield

    No Iron Man on that list? I'd personally say that Chun-li is the hardest.
  • masuhdunkillyallmasuhdunkillyall Show me your moves! Joined: Posts: 123
    everyone forgets about shuma. seriously, fucking shuma. I challenge anyone to pull off his basic mystic stare combos either offline or online. With him, I'd say modok, iron fist, chun, RR, wright and to an extent spider man and jill. I've tried to train with all of them and also messed around with a few and they take the top of my list. Oh and iron man for just being awkward at times.

    Also, as a Joe mainer I really don't feel he is that hard to play. Sure its different than most, but not too hard
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  • MenethilMenethil Joined: Posts: 13
    For me:

    Chun Li
    Iron Man
    Rocket Raccoon
    Phoenix
    Phoenix Wright
    Magneto
    Spider-Man
    M.O.D.O.K
    Chris Redfield

    These are the characters that I cannot get the hang of. I either lack in combos, or in mobility, or in Chris' case I lack the ability to properly zone.
  • DapuffsterDapuffster Joined: Posts: 135
    I don't understand why most people think Rocket Raccoon is hard to use. Most of his BnB's include magic series -> s, air ms, bear trap, log trap, rock 'n' roll. He can also create his own unblockable with boulder trap, spamming log trap from a distance is relativly safe, and with a beam assist he has easy teleport mixups.
  • Smoothjazz101Smoothjazz101 Joined: Posts: 1,480
    I don't understand why most people think Rocket Raccoon is hard to use. Most of his BnB's include magic series -> s, air ms, bear trap, log trap, rock 'n' roll. He can also create his own unblockable with boulder trap, spamming log trap from a distance is relativly safe, and with a beam assist he has easy teleport mixups.
    Which does diddly squat damage, and why PR Rog and Kusoru go for the boulder loop combo, which they usually drop because it is fucking hard as nails and to a certain extent character specific. Also, his traps are destroyed by opponents attacks, meaning they can ignore your unblockable boulder trap and just go in.
  • DapuffsterDapuffster Joined: Posts: 135
    Which does diddly squat damage, and why PR Rog and Kusoru go for the boulder loop combo, which they usually drop because it is fucking hard as nails and to a certain extent character specific. Also, his traps are destroyed by opponents attacks, meaning they can ignore your unblockable boulder trap and just go in.

    I use Wesker's OTG assist and with that alone I can do alot of damage with Rocky's combos. Using 1 bar I can get 650k Mid Screen, 700k in Corner, 700k off of a Log Trap. All of these easy BnBs for me. 700K for 1 bar does not sound like diddly squat damage. Not to mention he has plenty of reset options with his traps.

    Also, while the boulder trap does go away if he gets hit, the opponent can't risk it because if Rocky blocks it which he most likely will, then they get hit by the boulder trap and he goes in for a combo. Seriously, I'll lay down a bouldertrap while they're in blockstun from my magic series attacks and then sit there blocking while they're blocking. If they don't move, I'll use my low attack just as the boulder is about to hit them. And if they do move, I block their attacks and then they get hit by the boulder which leads into a full unscaled combo. That alone makes it easier for me to get combos on my opponent.

    Also I forgot to mention Rocky has his Mad Hopper Super which is basically his "Get out of Jail Free" card. Due to his huge size and the fact that it stays out there for a while. It gets his opponent off of him and he can set up a mixup on the opponent while he's safe. It also makes for a great DHC in or out. Not many characters have the luxury of a special like that.
  • EnDaNickofTimeEnDaNickofTime Joined: Posts: 731
    The hardest character that nets the most damage out of obnoxiously hard characters..... Shuma... Basic charge combos are retarded.... Theory Viper comes a close second because of her canceling thingy, zero lightning loop is up there, CHun is above them tho, fast charge combos are much easier than slow, obnoxious, spacing-dependent 5 min shuma combos. What makes shuma combos so difficult, is he has no solid hit confirms, they are all stupidly wonky and easy to drop.... Modok isn't as difficult as people believe, its just his awkward movement. Theory Jill could be up there too, 8 million mixups for days....boulder loop with rocket raccoon is ridiculous...
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