[KOF XIII] Mai Shiranui

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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    Here is another HD combo I found... just for reference:


    Those of you who are having trouble with Mai's trials can use this as a reference too. The only one I found difficult was trial 7, which involved linking a d.A into d.C - Got pretty easy after a few tries though:


    I could not find too many KOFXIII Climax videos of her as of late. I'm going to actually record my last few sections with Mai's game play later on...

    When you are playing Mai, try to keep yourself out of the corner as much as possible, unless you have meter. To get out of the corner, you can resort to GC rolling, GC blowback to stop block strings for getting back on the offensive, walk jumping (you either do a j.d.B, air Musasabi, a normal, a air throw, or just land from a wall kick), or by doing the ground Musasabi no Mai to get to the other side real quick. Mai should be the one cornering the opponent.
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    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    Here is a short video of Mai's HD combo.
    One HD combo is meterless - for 655 damage. The next HD combo is for two meters for 801 damage. Under normal circumstances... after the jump in, I would have done Mai's target combo B,D but I omitted the B input. At went for just D input in itself. I thought I could avoid as much damage scaling as possible.


    I will also conduct a video on Mai's counter hits CD attack usage as well as starting an HD combo from mid air with Mai's air Musasabi (air qcb+C).
    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    I got another video up. This video provide more insight on her ability to whiff cancel her CD and d.D attacks, using combos from a counter hit CD attack, and using HD combos in another unorthodox yet helpful manner.
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    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    I realize that Mai has multiple 50/50 mix up options. I just got done watching EVO2012 ST... I saw a lot of Vega players - Vega himself has particularly nasty 50/50 mix up game.
    Mai also has those things going for her. The ground Musasabi no Mai (down charge up + A or C) can be used for the same purpose as Vega's own Scarlet Terror and whatnot. The Mai player needs to learn how to keep the opponent guessing. Mai's air j.d.B (Ukihane) can be made safe if spaced properly. The charging time for this game is no where near as long, so Mai can continuously use the ground Musasabi no Mai without any real difficulty (this also helps the natural charging characters in this game very nicely as well to keep up a good offensive game).
    Mai can cancel into Ukihane from j.B, j.D, her ground Musasabi no Mai special move, and after wall jump. It is also pretty easy to cross the opponent up with Ukihane. The Ukihane causes a hard knockdown on hit for both grounded and air opponents. Mai can mix it up even more afterwards because she benefits from the opponent being knockdown. There are a lot of options leftover if Mai corners the opponent and even the other way around - she can wall jump and use Ukihani to change the trajectory of her jump and even hit her opponent in the process. After a knockdown, Mai can quickly jump over to the other side of the opponent do a mix up, block string, a combo, or another cross up from there (if she is still in mid air before the opponent gets up). Mai can also chain a lot of lighter normal moves together and they have pretty good reach. Mai functions really well at mid range distance from her opponent. If the opponent tries to jump/hop, Mai can follow up with a j.C, anti-air st.C, or her air throw for another hard knockdown. A version Ryuuenbu is also safe on guard, so she can use this attack to follow up as well.
    Also... Mai gets frame advantage from st.A, cr.A, close st.C, cr.C, and CD. There is currently no frame data on showcase yet, but it is coming soon.
    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    There is a lot of good (though not particularly the best) Mai Shiranui game play in this event - Pay attention and have fun!

    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!


  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    Mad_KOF (current EVO champ) implements Mai's game play... and he apparently knows what he is doing. A very strong Mai... Strangely enough, he plays Mai as an anchor. If the player retains Mai's meter appropriately and uses her speed well, any player can get very far.
    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!


  • Class RealClass Real Joined: Posts: 484
    How high would you guys say Mai's learning curve is? I'm interested in playing her, but since I just picked up the game I'm trying to avoid the really advanced characters at first.
    USFIV: Juri, Elena
    SFV: Juri, R.Mika
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    How high would you guys say Mai's learning curve is? I'm interested in playing her, but since I just picked up the game I'm trying to avoid the really advanced characters at first.
    Mai is not difficult to play at all. But, in mid or high level play, the player needs to know what to do and carefully utilize her strengths. She is relatively easy to win with, if the player knows how to use her normal moves and capitalize accordingly.
    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • AirLancerAirLancer Just a touch of Honey Joined: Posts: 824
    Putting Mai as anchor make some sense. If you're confident enough that you can ensure Mai comes out mostly for anchor vs anchor rounds, then it's very difficult for the opponent to make a strong offense under the threat of her NeoMAX. This can allow Mai to bully opponents with her strong normals with a little more freedom, which in turn can frustrate the opponent into making poor choices. Really, even the knowledge that Mai can suddenly punish any hop, jump, or attack for 45% is just a huge psychological weight on the opponent when it's their last character, especially if they've already lost some health.
  • ffffffffffffff Joined: Posts: 155
    How high would you guys say Mai's learning curve is? I'm interested in playing her, but since I just picked up the game I'm trying to avoid the really advanced characters at first.

    I'm pretty terrible, and I found Mai basics to be pretty easy to learn. Just avoid trying any of her link combos for now, and focus on the basics. She has good normals that you'd want to know how to use and when, and her standard combos are very easy.
  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    To help a little more on how to utilize Mai effectively here are a few notes that should be taken into account:

    - A version Ryuuenbuu is a lot safer on guard and can be used to knock people out the air if they try to jump on you from longer distances. Time the A version Ryuuenbu carefully with the opponent.
    - If you intend to use the C Ryuuenbuu, try to use this in a combo. I think its still safe (or 0 frame on guard at least) but the recovery time is clearly longer than that of the A version.
    Make sure you hit confirm into C Ryuuenbu (d.B, d.B, d.A) - OTHERWISE, if the opponent is blocking, resort to A Ryuuenbu instead because you'll still be much safer that way. Cancel into C Ryuuenbu after ANY of her close normal. What needs to be understood is that both versions of the Ryuuenbu have good push back on guard but the A Ryuuenbu has a shorter recovery time than the C version does.
    - Make frequent use of her normal when applying pressure. Standing C acts as a very good anti-air. Far Standing D is a very good poke and can put a stop to hoppers.
    - Mai is plus frames on her d.B, st.A, and her d.A. Take advantage of this when you conduct frames traps.
    - Mai is plus frames on her CD attack and she can whiff cancel it into any of her special moves. She can also whiff cancel her d.D into her special moves as well.
    - Mai can do more damage from mid screen if she has meter available.
    - Mai can also conduct dangerous HD corner combos for two stock and 800+ damage. This is imperative for high level play because you still have to save meter and you are likely to be playing her as a battery.
    - Mai is extremely dangerous as a anchor character much like Claw Iori is - if she has meter, the player is more likely to succeed with
    - She can build meter from Ryuuenbu, Hissatsu Shinobi Bachi (hcf+K), and air Musasabi no Mai (air qcb+K).
    - Mai can negate projectiles easily with her A version Ryuuenbu.
    - Use the ground Musasabi no Mai (d charge u+P) to get out of bad situations, punish poorly timed projectiles,
    and dish out mix ups. She can change the trajectory of her jump and the Musasabi no Mai with her Ukihane = j.d.B -
    her Ukihane can also be canceled into air qcb+K).
    - EX Air Musasabi no Mai (EX air qcb+BD) has a slight invincibility(??) start up - or at the very least, projectile
    invincibilty This was confirmed recently in a fight I got into against a Mature player.
    - Use her air qcb+A (or the EX version) to cancel her back dash. This is good for when the opponent is trying to rush
    Mai down, especially the EX version.
    - Mai's EX Chou Hitsatsu Shinobi Bachi functions as a very good reversal and a very good move to combo into.
    - Most of Mai's meterless (meaning no stock) corner combos will end with an air throw, C Ryuuenbu, a Hitsatsu, or a
    reset (C or d.C).
    - The Neo Max can function as a easy two frame punisher against laggy normal moves, projectiles, jumps, hops,
    back dashes, or special moves with poor recovery.
    - Don't get cornered - if this does happened, go for GC rolls, GC blowbacks, regular rolls, ground Musasabi no Mai, normals (push the opponent away), throws (preferably back throws), or wall jumps.
    - Mai can corner cross up if she rolls or jumps immediately after the opponent is throw into the corner (the character is back turned after her throw. Mai and King are the only characters who can do this for some reason).
    - In terms of game play, Mai has the capacity to rush down, zone, conduct keep away, turtle, and play mix up games.
    - For positioning (in mid or high level game play), Mai should be either a battery or anchor characters.
    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    Get a load of Naoki's Mai!!
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    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!


  • AirLancerAirLancer Just a touch of Honey Joined: Posts: 824
    Check out the midscreen HD at 2:25

  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239

    I've been waiting for this for a while! Here is something very lovely to share... FRAME DATA!

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AsrvpuirdQzwdGM0UDlRcGozMkJBQVZES0F4Zmw1MGc&f=true&noheader=true&gid=21

     

    According to the statistics on Mai's data, it is almost exactly what I expected. However... There are several things about Mai I did not know about!

    Mai's j.d.B Ukihane... Apparently, you can actually get a frame advantage if you use it carefully. On the ground it is -1 frame... So I was half right about using the move in moderation to score a hard knockdown. I am also more in love with Mai's normal moves than ever before. Definitely worth it. EX Ryuuebu is plus frames. Mai with meter can really be a big help, which solidifies the concept of her being one of the best options for battery.

    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!


  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239

    Here are some videos of me actually playing KOFXIII - Mai will show on both of them. This took place last year during the Holidays.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4JvYhSFM7I

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw1BWeP0vHg

    Also this video is another 2 meter HD combo for Mai to utilize. 806 damage.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPrHhM4tMTg

    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited March 2013
    Two practical Mai combos here...
    Post edited by Great_Dark_Hero on
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    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!


  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited March 2013
    Reverse OCV...
    Post edited by Great_Dark_Hero on
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    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!


  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited March 2013
    Desmond Delaghetto, Reynald, and Mario E talk on Dream Cancel podcast. Apparently, Mario E is picking up Mai now...! This is a podcast that talks about the overall progress of Winter Brawl!
    Post edited by Great_Dark_Hero on
    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!


  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited March 2013
    Here is some footage from Winter Brawl - Mario E playing as Mai. The actual game play starts at 4:41. We do think alike. He used quite a few of my favorite tricks, such as the Ukihane cross up, one of her BnB's as a good punish (cr.C, qcb+AC, hcf+D)... Very good stuff! ... However, keep away still plays a huge role in Mai's game play - j.A, s.C, and s.A are her go to tools (I really need to making this clear too, because her A series attacks are SOOOOO underrated but they are also so good)! Also what needs to be understood is that Mai's close st.A is her fastest normal move. In the second video, Mario E's Mai got into a fire ball war with a strong King player. Mai can easily slip over projectiles easily at further ranges with ground Musasabi no Mai and punish with Ukihane - or she can use the Musasabi no Mai in itself because you can't really whiff punish her when she lands (she has no recover when landing on the ground from Musasabi no Mai so it CAN be used as a safe jumping tool if she is "flying" into characters from far ranges).
    Post edited by Great_Dark_Hero on
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    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!


  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited March 2013
    Here's something peculiar - This is one of Mai's theme songs from her past games. It sounds pretty catchy, but it has a "Jun Kazama" - like feel to it. Almost like her theme from KOF02UM does.
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    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited March 2013
    And, here is to plenty of good Mai Shiranui game play!
    Post edited by Great_Dark_Hero on
    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!


  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited March 2013
    I've actually finished Mai's wiki section on Dream Cancel! However, KOFXIII is still a fairly new game so things are going to found out overtime, and Mai's outlook will change. I will still continue make updates to Mai's Dream Cancel KOFXIII wiki as I go along. http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Mai_Shiranui_(XIII)
    Post edited by Great_Dark_Hero on
    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!


  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited March 2013
    Case and point... Here is some new technology I found...
    Post edited by Great_Dark_Hero on
    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!


  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited March 2013
    Got brand new combo! Relatively easy but still leads to big time damage.
    The first combo in that video was 656 damage, while the 2 bar was 802.
    I have also found an HD combo that will do 811 damage:
    j.C, s.C [HD activate] s.C, hcf+D [HDC] air qcb+C, hcf+D (FIRST HIT) [HDC] qcf+A, qcb+C, qcb+C, qcb+C [HDC] qcf+A, qcb+C, qcb+C > Neo Max = 811 damage
    Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/GDHTP | Twitch Channel: great_dark_hero
    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
    Come to dreamcancel.com for KOFXIV FAQS, wiki-updates, and mini-guides!


  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited March 2013
    Another Mai combo - 1 frame links alert. Link the Kachosen (qcf+A) into st.A! (It IS also possible to link Kachosen into cr.C because both st.A and cr.C have very quick start up). Here you go. But... this makes me wonder, though - Could one net more damage off of Mai's 1 frame links? Because, earlier in the thread, we summarized that Mai can actually kill her opponent by with the same one frame links...
    Mai also has another one which involves cr.A > cr.C. It's not that the 1 frame links are difficult (or necessary) - it just requires one to... time their hits consistently.
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    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    Just a heads up - I am going to provide a KOFXIII Mai tutorial in the near future.
    I will provide insight on all of her moves, game play premise, BnB's, how to play with meter, how to play without meter, punishes/whiff punishes, and set ups/traps. I'm really pleased with the fact that we've finally got a hold of Mai's frame data, so our life is made easier in understanding her game plan. We may even find some more tech to exploit during game play.
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    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    Just completed a podcast with Dream Cancel's Desmond Delaghetto providing insight on Mai's overall game play - now we shall focus on a comprehensive tutorial.
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    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
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    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    Just a slight update -
    Mai's EX air qcb+AC DOES NOT HAVE INVINCIBILITY PROPERTIES. This move should be utilized for offensive tactics, netting more damaging, starting combos, and utilizing Mai's mix ups. There is no invincibility properties, but the move is still 0 frames on block. Mai can do whatever she wants sense she is neutral.
    Use EX air qcb+AC after conducting j.d.B - better yet, if you try to use crouching C, d charge u+P, j.d.B this is her safest option for ending that natural combo string.
    Also, don't hestitate to make use of Mai's CD attacks (on the ground AND in mid air). Mai's ground CD attack gives her low invincibility, has a generous hit box, and it will leave her a +4 on block. She has many applications for her CD attacks so use them carefully as you pressure your opponent.
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    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    Take a glance at Louffy's Mai! I learned quite a few things from him earlier last year when I was still learning about the game's system!
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    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    Found something nice -
    KCE 408: Mai part 1 of 2 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1340369006
    KCE 409: Mai part 2 of 2 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1340369013
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    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited May 2013
    Ah, we you go... It is actually possible to perform a EX qcb+P and then follow up with THREE qcb+C's and net 522 damage for one stock!
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    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    Let's take a look at Mai's EX air qcb+P... found some new technology on it.
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    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
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    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
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    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited July 2013
    Okay... So Mai was in the Grand Finals of KOFXIII.
    I was ecstatic... but, then when Woo actually got around to playing as Mai, I was a bit let down. This pretty much solidifies the reason why she should be played primarily as a battery character in high level (the risk/reward is far too high... Mai has a huge comeback factor but she is also just as likely to fail as a anchor if the player messes up) - Woo "seemed" to have knew a lot about Mai's applications but could not put them on showcase.
    GG's Woo.
    Hurray for Reynald winning KOFXIII EVO2013!! USA USA!!
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    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • rikcrikc Joined: Posts: 521
    Thanks for keeping this thread up, GDH. Mai's one of my favorite characters to play as, she's a lot of work to learn but so fun to use.

    When Woo picked Mai I thought Reynald was going to have some trouble, she seems like she'd be a good counterpick against Chin. It seems like her projectile is low enough to give him trouble and A ryuuenbu would be hard for him to get around. Heck, I wonder if hcf+k is fast enough to catch a poorly timed drink.

    I don't know Mai or Chin well enough to really talk about the matchup, though, and I'd be pretty interested to hear what people who use the characters well have to say.
  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited July 2013
    rikc wrote: »
    snip

    Thank you, rikc!
    Mai in the air is what Chin is to the ground, which summarizes why Mai vs Chin is an interesting match up.
    A good Chin player is more than likely to use the drink mechanic as soon as they good a knockdown or if the opponent is completely a full screen away. Mai will have to use her mobility and the air to her advantage while retaining a mid range distance from Chin. (Mai would have an advantage over Chin in the air as she generally has more options from there).
    A early j.A and a preemptive jCD is one of Mai's best air to air options (j.B is a good jump-in/air to ground move as it crosses up very easily).
    Mai will also have to make continued use of her normal moves as she generally has great buttons.
    Another thing to note is that cr.C can also be a good anti-air to use against Chin's jumping/hopping attacks as her hit-box will shrink a bit while using the said move.
    Last, to draw herself close to Chin from further distances to punish badly timed drinks or get out of pressure, the Mai can make moderate use of d~charge~u+P (if the Chin player tries to chase you down, you can hold the punch button while touching the wall so that Mai can use her dive attack - she also cancel the jump into Ukihane = j.d.B which is only safe if you use it IN FRONT of the opponent instead of on top of the opponents head). The reason why Woo would have picked Mai in this scenario for fighting Chin was because of her buttons and her options in mid air. But... that fell apart - mainly because he only knew a handful of tricks with Mai, he wasn't constantly on the move (as Mai is very fast character with healthy defensive options), and that she wasn't really Woo's main priority. Reynald was also familiar with the match up thanks to him fighting Mario E (whom was far more potent with Mai's game play).

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    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited July 2013
    And... Presenting some more Mai game play from good ol' Luffy himself!! Still as impressive as usual!
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    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero Your functions got fucked Joined: Posts: 3,239
    edited July 2013
    Now... It is time for get a load of Shin Kensou's Mai game play: (This was on his stream a little while ago) -
    We also have Sprint's Mai as well, whom was playing Mai/King/Athena sense the beginning of KOFXIII:
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    PSN: Dark_Ice_Saiko
    KOFXIV
    Kyo / Luong / Geese [Mai, Shun, Benimaru, Leona, Terry, Mian, Mui Mui]

    DOA5LR
    Nyotengu/Mai

    Tekken 7
    Eliza [Xiaoyu, Geese, Jin, Lars, Lee, M.Raven]

    BBCF
    Hakumen [Azrael, Nine, Makoto]

    SFV ???
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