Yep, had to pick one and run with it this time. Again, not opposed to swapping (would actually prefer that) if you can find a modder to do the soldering for you. I'd like to see you on the latest hardware for sure. The board doesn't have to be cut down for that either, it's just one option.
What exactly needs to be soldered on the board? I know someone who could do the soldering for me. Or if it isn't too difficult I could pick up an iron and do it myself.
Since this isn't compatible with the original SF4 round 1 TE and the TEasy is no longer in production would I be correct in assuming the go-to solderless mod would be the Kitty? Just looking for the simplest possible dual-mod for my stick (only really need 360/PS3/PC compatibility) :)
What exactly needs to be soldered on the board? I know someone who could do the soldering for me. Or if it isn't too difficult I could pick up an iron and do it myself.
It would be the same as a normal dual mod, so basically the buttons/directionals, power/ground, and then the 360 PCB USB signals, with the outbound usb cable still coming from the Cerberus board. Although you could still use the IDC terminals for the USB and just solder the others. I'm sure someone will pop up what they've done with a direct solder method shortly after I send out my first wave. I may even cut one down/install it in that fashion just to show what's possible.
Since this isn't compatible with the original SF4 round 1 TE and the TEasy is no longer in production would I be correct in assuming the go-to solderless mod would be the Kitty? Just looking for the simplest possible dual-mod for my stick (only really need 360/PS3/PC compatibility) :)
Yep, for solderless on round 1/2 sticks Kitty is still your best option.
Quick update: ETA from the assembly house is early next week, so give or take a few days for me to complete assembly and testing and these should start being available end of next week.
is it up on the store yet or can i email you for a few?
Not yet, I don't want to do any pre-orders since it really wouldn't do anything except add pressure. They're supposed to be in my hands early next week, once I've tested a couple to my liking I'll put the ability to order up on the store. After that I'll work to get the rest finished/tested and start shipping end of the week.
I definitely see myself using this when I ever around to dual-modding my stick. Too bad I'm scared to death over the thought of cutting the cord. >_>
Yeah that's the scariest part for some, but the good news is it's really hard to screw up the cutting because I'm telling the user to leave about 6" attached to the 360 PCB. Tons of room for error.
Yeah that's the scariest part for some, but the good news is it's really hard to screw up the cutting because I'm telling the user to leave about 6" attached to the 360 PCB. Tons of room for error.
That's good to hear. Maybe I'll look into buying this sometime, then.
Not yet, I don't want to do any pre-orders since it really wouldn't do anything except add pressure. They're supposed to be in my hands early next week, once I've tested a couple to my liking I'll put the ability to order up on the store. After that I'll work to get the rest finished/tested and start shipping end of the week
Sweet. I'll be sure to demonstrate how to properly do an "advanced" install once I get my boards/evo stick in.
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Sorry, got through programming over half of them last night and will be finishing the assembly and testing tonight.. well starting to.
I'll get order info on the site in a bit here. I need to make a picture with some labeling on it. The fabrication house used my old files which had silk screen that was not complete. Luckily nothing electrically changed, only aesthetics.
What's missing:
Numbering for the headers positions 1-6
Labels for the incoming and outgoing USB connection
Also, the purple came out more as a maroon'ish. Not terribly psyched about it.
Too bad it covers that pretty white PCB from the EVO stick, but I'll be watching out for this one. 3 sticks waiting to be modded and no time to do it!
actually it wont cover the white PCB when your viewing the PCB through the case your looking at the bottom of it. The Fightstick Pro's PCB's are mounted differently than your normal TE
I'm interested in purchasing the cerberus for my fight stick pro.
When will the cerberus be available for purchase?
What is the eta and cost for shipping to Canada?
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It's available now on my website, just put it up last night.
For Canada, shipping is $13, it usually takes 2 weeks to get there since Canada Mail takes forever. I'll likely start shipping any new orders on Friday.
I just realized that USPS upped flat rate pricing like crazy for international orders. Jebus.
It's available now on my website, just put it up last night.
For Canada, shipping is $13, it usually takes 2 weeks to get there since Canada Mail takes forever. I'll likely start shipping any new orders on Friday.
Can you ship it faster than flat rate to canada? I kinda want a few fast. I have to email for the no solder units right?
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Correct. There is faster shipping but it'll be something like express which would be ~27$ USD for a small lightweight package. 3-5 business days according to USPS.
so. I have a MC Soul Calibur V edition TE-S, and have been wondering which would be my better option for dual modding, the TEKitty, or this one. Let me see if I have my facts straight.
TE-Kitty: Compatible with retro consoles, slightly more difficult to install.
Cerberus: Only works with PS3/PC/360, and the installation involves less messing with the usb wire. $10 cheaper.
Am I mistaken in anything?
edit: I have no soldering experience whatsoever, and am terrified of breaking this thing.
Both the Kitty and Cerberus require you to cut and strip the USB. The difference in install is you have a lot more ribbon cables to play around with on the Kitty.
Looking at grabbing one of these soon... I do have a Teasy strike that kept losing its firmware, and I kept having to reflash (I recall sending it back to you at one point). I got bored of having the pcb sitting around here after one of the signals stopped working on it and dug around the pcb some, I take it this opts me out of any replacement/discount :p
I recall you mentioning switching from the Dualstrike firmware to your own, correct? This should iron out all of the unfortunate issues that we had with the Teasystrike, right?
Also, do you have any plans to make the usb device name user editable, ala the Kitty?
so. I have a MC Soul Calibur V edition TE-S, and have been wondering which would be my better option for dual modding, the TEKitty, or this one. Let me see if I have my facts straight.
TE-Kitty: Compatible with retro consoles, slightly more difficult to install.
Cerberus: Only works with PS3/PC/360, and the installation involves less messing with the usb wire. $10 cheaper.
Am I mistaken in anything?
edit: I have no soldering experience whatsoever, and am terrified of breaking this thing.
You have it basically correct, yes. However with the TE-S style of stick you'd need the harness for the kitty which is another 5$ (not a huge deal, just something of note). Cerberus also allows for Player Indications on the guide ring, does not touch the turbo LEDs at all, whereas the Kitty does fun stuffs with the turbo LEDs and shows what direction you are pressing on the guide ring.
Both require you to cut the USB cable (making it repairable fairly easy if you want to put it back to stock), Cerberus does not require you to strip the 4 individual wires, only to cut away the black sheath.
Both work fantastic for dual modding your stick, it's just dependent on what options you're desiring.
Looking at grabbing one of these soon... I do have a Teasy strike that kept losing its firmware, and I kept having to reflash (I recall sending it back to you at one point). I got bored of having the pcb sitting around here after one of the signals stopped working on it and dug around the pcb some, I take it this opts me out of any replacement/discount :p
I recall you mentioning switching from the Dualstrike firmware to your own, correct? This should iron out all of the unfortunate issues that we had with the Teasystrike, right?
Also, do you have any plans to make the usb device name user editable, ala the Kitty?
Indeed, this firmware/implementation is completely different in the way it's handled. Far more solid and based on proven open source code and hardware. No weird firmware corruption.
As I said before, I have no problems sending you a Cerberus to replace the TEasy you originally had, but remember that this won't fit older sticks and if it does fit your stick you'd need to re-attach the USB cable to the 360 PCB.
Barring that, no I have no issues replacing it with the new board since I really hated seeing those old problems.
As for the USB device name editing? No immediate plans but if there's serious interest I could look into it.
As I said before, I have no problems sending you a Cerberus to replace the TEasy you originally had, but remember that this won't fit older sticks and if it does fit your stick you'd need to re-attach the USB cable to the 360 PCB.
Barring that, no I have no issues replacing it with the new board since I really hated seeing those old problems.
As for the USB device name editing? No immediate plans but if there's serious interest I could look into it.
The USB cable isn't an issue, i've done my fair share of usb cable transplants.
The USB Name isn't a huge issue either, I just like to give all of my sticks unique names, especially if other people need to use them for PC games like Melty Blood, at a tournament, it's easier to identify than two 360 TE pcbs in the windows applet.
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Just shoot me an email with your address. I'll pop it in the mail on Friday/early saturday with the completed orders. If you want to send back the old board that's fine, I'll give you my address in a reply email.
You mentioned that Madcatz V.S. sticks require an extra step for installation but I don't see any mention of it in the installation guide. Does it require any modification or does it mount okay without any issue?
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Derp, that's supposed to say PRO (have to break the standoffs and mount with adhesive anchors/zip ties). V.S. sticks require no extra steps, the only thing I suppose is that the plastic top that initially went over the 360 PCB can't be put back on, but other than that it mounts just peachy.
Prototype, looks a little different but you get the idea.
wait phreak, I just realized, if people are going to use this on their evo sticks, won't the layout be changed because its the MS layout instead of the SF layout?
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wait phreak, I just realized, if people are going to use this on their evo sticks, won't the layout be changed because its the MS layout instead of the SF layout?
Yeah, but you can just unplug the QD wires and plug them into the SF layout.
wait phreak, I just realized, if people are going to use this on their evo sticks, won't the layout be changed because its the MS layout instead of the SF layout?
The SC and Blaz stick have MS as well so it should be a non issue. Another thing also most may want to cut the pcb down to mini size in the first place to install in the evo stick, so you don't have to modify the case. It may look weird/bad since the Evo stick is translucent.I have some ideas that may work without cutting but I can't say for sure without seeing the Cerberus in person.
The SC and Blaz stick have MS as well so it should be a non issue. Another thing also most may want to cut the pcb down to mini size in the first place to install in the evo stick, so you don't have to modify the case. It may look weird/bad since the Evo stick is translucent.I have some ideas that may work without cutting but I can't say for sure without seeing the Cerberus in person.
of course i'm going to be cutting the board into tiny little pieces but for those who are installing that aren't so modding inept
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of course i'm going to be cutting the board into tiny little pieces but for those who are installing that aren't so modding inept
Well my idea was take a cerb with no connectors (a blank pcb) and take the pro MC pcb remove the JST connectors from the board while leaving the pins in place. You would have to carefully pry the JST connectors up with a tiny flat head from the MC board then take the cerb board and apply it over the pro MC pcb. You may also have to apply a super thin piece of plastic like you get from a hobby stores so there's no parts other than the pins touching between the two boards or do like Gummo does and use some electrical tape like when he's combining boards in super tight spaces. You may then have to modify the JST plugs with a Dremel to take off a millimeter or two to make for a better connection to the two combinded boards with maybe a little hot glue to keep the wire tapes in place since the metal prongs would be shorter and of course you would have to hard wire the usb wire. Keep in mind this is all speculation, but I plan on giving it a try.
I would only suggest this for the Evo Pro's because I'm sure people don't want to cut the pcb stand off from the evo stick it being clear and all being able to see the pcb through the top of the case
Yeah You're right the layout is different but it really does not mater since all the pcb connections are the same
The PCB connections are the same, as are the harness spots on the QD terminal, I think they just route the QD connections to the main panel differently to accommodate their attempted layout.
So if you install the cerberus, the layout you see on the CP should remain on both systems.
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Yep those, just use those and a couple of zip ties around the 360 PCB to secure it, then proceed with the mod as normal. Alternatively you can pop the zip ties/anchors on, do the mod, THEN remove the adhesive backing and stick the whole assembly down.
So I'm an idiot, I was bringing all the boxes to ship with me today so I can get them all out at once, and in a late rush to get to work I left the bag of them in my kitchen. I'll be popping them all in the after hours drop box tonight. Mortified/gummo, yours will go out tomorrow... sorry bout' that. Should still reach most of you by Thursday though.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeIt would be the same as a normal dual mod, so basically the buttons/directionals, power/ground, and then the 360 PCB USB signals, with the outbound usb cable still coming from the Cerberus board. Although you could still use the IDC terminals for the USB and just solder the others. I'm sure someone will pop up what they've done with a direct solder method shortly after I send out my first wave. I may even cut one down/install it in that fashion just to show what's possible.
Yep, for solderless on round 1/2 sticks Kitty is still your best option.
Quick update: ETA from the assembly house is early next week, so give or take a few days for me to complete assembly and testing and these should start being available end of next week.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeSadly no, not without soldering. The PCB is differently measured than the new ones.
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Not yet, I don't want to do any pre-orders since it really wouldn't do anything except add pressure. They're supposed to be in my hands early next week, once I've tested a couple to my liking I'll put the ability to order up on the store. After that I'll work to get the rest finished/tested and start shipping end of the week.
Yeah that's the scariest part for some, but the good news is it's really hard to screw up the cutting because I'm telling the user to leave about 6" attached to the 360 PCB. Tons of room for error.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeI'll get order info on the site in a bit here. I need to make a picture with some labeling on it. The fabrication house used my old files which had silk screen that was not complete. Luckily nothing electrically changed, only aesthetics.
What's missing:
Numbering for the headers positions 1-6
Labels for the incoming and outgoing USB connection
Also, the purple came out more as a maroon'ish. Not terribly psyched about it.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeAt any rate, static bags come tomorrow so I'll be starting to finish assembly and testing.
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When will the cerberus be available for purchase?
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For Canada, shipping is $13, it usually takes 2 weeks to get there since Canada Mail takes forever. I'll likely start shipping any new orders on Friday.
I just realized that USPS upped flat rate pricing like crazy for international orders. Jebus.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeTE-Kitty: Compatible with retro consoles, slightly more difficult to install.
Cerberus: Only works with PS3/PC/360, and the installation involves less messing with the usb wire. $10 cheaper.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeYou have it basically correct, yes. However with the TE-S style of stick you'd need the harness for the kitty which is another 5$ (not a huge deal, just something of note). Cerberus also allows for Player Indications on the guide ring, does not touch the turbo LEDs at all, whereas the Kitty does fun stuffs with the turbo LEDs and shows what direction you are pressing on the guide ring.
Both require you to cut the USB cable (making it repairable fairly easy if you want to put it back to stock), Cerberus does not require you to strip the 4 individual wires, only to cut away the black sheath.
Both work fantastic for dual modding your stick, it's just dependent on what options you're desiring.
Indeed, this firmware/implementation is completely different in the way it's handled. Far more solid and based on proven open source code and hardware. No weird firmware corruption.
As I said before, I have no problems sending you a Cerberus to replace the TEasy you originally had, but remember that this won't fit older sticks and if it does fit your stick you'd need to re-attach the USB cable to the 360 PCB.
Barring that, no I have no issues replacing it with the new board since I really hated seeing those old problems.
As for the USB device name editing? No immediate plans but if there's serious interest I could look into it.
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How should I go about getting this pcb swapped?
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