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Same here, bro. Lost several matches in pools because half of my inputs disappeared somewhere between fight stick and screen. =:( And I was practicing before pools on a PS3 and ASUS monitor. Sure would like to figure out what it was so I can replicate the horrible lag at home!
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There is also thesetup with the headphone multiadapter to consider. There are several devices going through those chains. Neither device is official Sony merch, and even plugging it straight in, having that many devices could be taxing the input processing of the console. I'm no tech, but... these consoles aren't robust with their processors, or their cooling. Perhaps during testing, they were okay... but with the overheating they might drop inputs from high demand devices like an arcade stick. Still, with so many big names not making it through pools, it's worth checking out.
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Another year, same shit. I think it's the whole PS3 staying on too long that screws things up like Daigo talked about way during Season's Beatings 3.
is this really true? i've had this suspicion myself because sometimes i spectate matches in umvc3 before actually playing, and it does seem like things change a little after the console has been on for a few hours. it has 4 inches of space all around it like the booklet says it should, but it still gets hot after being on that long.
Same here, bro. Lost several matches in pools because half of my inputs disappeared somewhere between fight stick and screen. =:( And I was practicing before pools on a PS3 and ASUS monitor. Sure would like to figure out what it was so I can replicate the horrible lag at home!
Are you sure your inputs didn't disappear because of EVO tournament nerves :) But seriously, the only thing I heard is a few people griping that the tournament was being ran on PS3's which we all know have issues with frame rate compared to the 360 version of the Capcom fighters. The people playing on the main stream didn't have any problems at all landing some crazy shit and no more combos were dropped than normal. Nerves + ps3 fps lag probably had more to do with it than input lag caused by the monitors or the ps3's overheating. I mean seriously, I've played on multiple ps3's that ran all day long just as hard and that was never a problem that anybody mentioned or noticed.
this happened to me to. i lost my first match in my pool, but then the judge said i could just plug in my stick directly into the ps3 instead in the adapter thing. so knowing that, i was tearing it up in losers...
Same here. There was noticeable lag and drops in fps. Even simple links were being dropped. Sometimes things wouldn't even come out. I did notice an improvement when I plugged my stick directly into the ps3 as opposed to the 4 way USB hub they used for headphones. I just don't understand why they don't use Xbox when the fps issue is pretty well documented. I've never seen so many dropped combos in ssf4 like at evo this year.
Yo for the last fucking time: They use PS3 because at the time it was easier to get PS2 to PS3 converters than PS2 to 360 ones. If you don't own a PS3 to practice for EVO, you don't fucking care enough to bother winning.
I don't want to hear no shit because you dudes have had 3 years to get 200 dollars together for a fucking PS3.
Yo for the last fucking time: They use PS3 because at the time it was easier to get PS2 to PS3 converters than PS2 to 360 ones. If you don't own a PS3 to practice for EVO, you don't fucking care enough to bother winning.
I don't want to hear no shit because you dudes have had 3 years to get 200 dollars together for a fucking PS3.
You dont need a ps3 to play street fighter you should be able to buy the game on your console of choice and win at tournys.
I used to play tekken but now im a street fighter player.
You dont need a ps3 to play street fighter you should be able to buy the game on your console of choice and win at tournys.
If you're not practicing under the conditions of the tournament, do not complain about things not matching your play experience at home. I play on a CRT. If I go to Evo and get random weirdness coming out of the Asus monitor, it is my bad for not being prepared for it.
Everybody has known well in advanced now what the deal is. Either adjust, buy Evo the number of consoles + games + DLC to make the switch easy, or shut the fuck up about it because at this point griping about set ups makes all of you look like idiots.
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This really is a stupid topic we got here.
Consoles overheat, and like anything that overheats, unfortunate things happen.
If you're actually serious about competing and going to EVO
Then you should in theory have the money to shell out for a PS3/360, ASUS/CRT, and a controller to play.
If you only have one console, it's not that bad either. You can always get converters for Pads/Sticks or dual mods.
Not the TO's fault you can't pull off 1f links like you do on your 50" Dynex from BB.
Wow man. A bit of a rage monster? Like the last guy said, its only logical to look at the setup when top pros are dropping easy combos. Why not tell them to shut the fuck up and quit whining when they post about laggy set-ups on twitter. Geez man, relax a bit.
Yo for the last fucking time: They use PS3 because at the time it was easier to get PS2 to PS3 converters than PS2 to 360 ones. If you don't own a PS3 to practice for EVO, you don't fucking care enough to bother winning.
I don't want to hear no shit because you dudes have had 3 years to get 200 dollars together for a fucking PS3.
ps3 mvc3 is the equivalent of ps2 mvc2. I think you're an mvc2 player right? mvc3 on ps3 is really that bad.
for world championships the most accurate port should be used every time to determine the best player. In fact, EVO used to go out of their way to supply cabinets for authenticity. There was like 2-3 EVOs in the past that ran cabinet mvc2 because console mvc2 was only 99% accurate. That last 1% was such a big difference back then to make them change their minds. Now they just don't give any fucks about the quality of the port
its not about going out and getting a ps3. Its about playing on the best version of the game and the FGC has always sought after the best port for tournament competition except for recent EVO tournies. The last 3 EVO marvel tournaments have been ran on the shittiest port available and marvel is the only game @ EVO to get dealt this hand repeatedly.
I only play marvel and I refuse to go to EVO until they fix this mess and almost every player in my area is under the same pretenses.
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There was nothing wrong with the setups. It was the same Asus and PS3 that you have at home. If you are playing on 360 then yes, timing is different. All monitors were made sure to be put in to Game Mode. Just because you lost to some random scrub don't blame the setup that almost EVERYONE in the fgc is using. Instead of complaining go and practice more. Quit using the American Option Select: You lose? Blame it on something. You win? I'M DA BES!!!
Poongko played 2 weeks of PS3 the previous year before evo just to get used to the timing, you gotta take the initiatives peeps. In the old days we had to use big clunky US sticks depending on the arcade you went to and sometimes the stick or buttons wouldn't work. Now we can use keyboards and hitboxes rofl, all we gotta do is adjust our timing slightly so I'd say things have improved greatly.
nonono, you guys...
SSFIV doesn't lag, frame drop, or any of that on the ps3, not even during the ultras. nothing is happening in that game! it's not stressful to either console. (i can't vouch for the xbox, but i'll just assume it's fine)
if people were dropping the 1-frame links they've done a million times before, it's most likely a setup error. you'd think evo would be on top of that kind of thing.
This post has nothing to do about EVO setups, it's in relation to the PS3/360 debate.
I play Viper in UMVC3, I like to think that I can execute her combos quite consistently. I played my neighbour in his home today (he uses a PS3), I dropped almost EVERY Viper combo, in fact, it felt like it was online. My experience isn't tournament nerves or anything else. But there is a noticeable difference between the two consoles.
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nonono, you guys...
SSFIV doesn't lag, frame drop, or any of that on the ps3, not even during the ultras. nothing is happening in that game! it's not stressful to either console. (i can't vouch for the xbox, but i'll just assume it's fine)
if people were dropping the 1-frame links they've done a million times before, it's most likely a setup error. you'd think evo would be on top of that kind of thing.
This even a potato can run SSFIV at 60 FPS.
I used to play tekken but now im a street fighter player.
All monitors were made sure to be put in to Game Mode.
Just a note, if the EVO monitor is still the ASUS VH236H, then the "Game Mode" is just a color profile. It does not affect input delay or anything else. It basically just ramps up the saturation, and puts the RGB to max. It's not like the Game Mode on many TVs that removes post-processing.
well, umvc3 is a different story. i find it to be a lot more stable than vanilla, but there's still a lot going on. maybe you should politely tell your friend to do a little trial and error with his ps3/tv settings until the game plays like it's supposed to. the places where the xbox screen tears will be the places where the ps3 will slow down a little.
Just a note, if the EVO monitor is still the ASUS VH236H, then the "Game Mode" is just a color profile. It does not affect input delay or anything else. It basically just ramps up the saturation, and puts the RGB to max. It's not like the Game Mode on many TVs that removes post-processing.
Yeah, they were VH236Hs. Thank you for clarifying that for me. I had no idea.
Don't know what the setup was like this year, but last year did in fact have lag.
There's a reason why people kept picking the same level/stage on stream.
Basically, when picking other stages, the game would slow the fuck down dramatically.
People will say "nuh uh!! PS3 can handle it!!" well for some reason these PS3s couldn't.
Maybe it was the setups? I dunno.
Picking the training stage resolved this issue (somewhat), but people still stated that there was input lag.
I can vouch that last year, the on-stage stream setup did have some kind of lag (input lag?), but not 100% sure about the setups in pools. But they did SLOW DOWN really bad unless training stage was selected.
And this year, I heard that people had to pick the training stages for each game to prevent some of the lag, so I dunno.
(Some games didn't slow down. Like the 3D fighters)
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This is already a known fact. PS3 processes its video strangely and cannot handle too much at once. Reason why backgrounds that have a lot going on in the background have lag in those stages. As far as the input lag goes, the PS3 has 3 frames of lag built in to the console. It has nothing to do with the setup. That's why I said in my original post that the timing is different from 360 and PS3. W/e though, Evo is PS3 and it not changing until next gen.
People will say "nuh uh!! PS3 can handle it!!" well for some reason these PS3s couldn't.
its a well knwon fact that capcom is unable to optimize their code for the console that its not the developing lead of the project
just look how awfully bad is sfxt on xbox360
the fact that other games dont have any kind of problem despite the console, shows that this is an issue from capcom
yes there are differences on the versions of sf4 and mvc3 on ps3 and 360, but in reallity they are almost minimal
and evo uses ps3's because at the begining, with the failure ratio and all shit that the 360 had, it wasnt intelligent to go with the 360
add that for that time, the majority of the player base was on ps2, the converters were more accesible, and evo already owned various ps3s because tekken 5 dr
This is already a known fact. PS3 processes its video strangely and cannot handle too much at once. Reason why backgrounds that have a lot going on in the background have lag in those stages. As far as the input lag goes, the PS3 has 3 frames of lag built in to the console. It has nothing to do with the setup. That's why I said in my original post that the timing is different from 360 and PS3. W/e though, Evo is PS3 and it not changing until next gen.
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wrong, read above
also both the ps3 and the 360 fare the same when it comes on input lag, a minimum of 3 to 4
the PS3 has 3 frames of lag built in to the console.
Sorry bud, but that's complete horse shit. It's entirely dependent on the coding of the game. See, people take SF4 (and Capcom games in general) as the logic behind the PS3 being just inherently laggy, when that's just not true. Short aside, the 360 version actually runs fast where as I believe the PS3 version was closer to the arcade, but that's besides the point.
We all know that the PS3 has two frames of delay compared to 360, this is documented.
You know what else is documented? Tekken 6 on 360 has input lag compared to PS3.
Anyone who says the PS3 has inherent input delay is either uninformed or a 360 fanboy, simple fact of the matter is that it's on the developers to make a good port. That's not to say that the PS3 isn't a problem for select games, Marvel at the very least should be played on 360 if not AE as well, but it's not a problem with the console, it's a problem with the coding.
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Man I can relate to you guys, I would of been in the GF's against Perfect legend and Fchamp but that damn lag! I hope next year MK SFxT n UMVC3 will be on the PS Vita because that is my console of choice for FG's then I can just win EVO forever.
it is what it is. its unfortunate for now, but dont feel alone in the complaints. everyone from regular joe, to faces of the community know ps3 is ass in general. every single old new fighting game, or new fighting game is better on xbox360, and its not even just the inherit problems with ps3 input lag itself, but like others have said about random game lag, overheating due to old ps3's being random issues, ect... the best you can do is practice ps3 exclusive as much as you can before evo, or just not enter and enjoy the show.
i mean everyones trying to be in everyones pockets so to speak, and uber nice to each other, but like shoultz said, evo would constantly seek to always play on the best port,and just tournies in general, but a problem arose when they got all those ps3's because of the sponsorship and tekken dr, but then all these other fg's dropped that were just shitty on ps3. if your a competitive gamer and you have no complaints from xbox360 to ps3, your a scrub, because its so blatantly apparent.its not okay to complain about sf and marvel on ps3, but if it was st, its okay.like no one is playing on anything but the euro version of the roms for old vs games, and the specific versions matching the appropriate patches, but all of a sudden, nah, stop complaining. hows it changed from older games to newer ones in general other then the fact that people keep feeding you bullshit and telling you to stfu even if you have a valid point. im confused. lol
i mean im all for the support of evo and tournies in general, but speak out with your wallets. dont fucking waste money if the setup is not to your liking, or just shitty in general. tourney organizers would catch on quick, and start making moves to ensure that people show up by being much more mindful of their setups. until then, keep wasting your money on shitty setups and complaining. i empathize that shit isnt free, so some tournies just do what they gotta do, but i think as a whole if we can just get people to stop frontin and come clean that yeah, this shits ass, then it would be all good. i mean, its just odd that ive talked to and or heard out of the mouth's of top 8 marvel and sf players about how ps3 fucking sucks, or at the very least, they know 360 is better and are aware of the issues and changes you have to adjust too to even be able to play, but like no one is having an open discussion about it.
why? because there is this dumb mentality of, yo, just buy a ps3 or pratice somehow on it before a tourney and stfu, but like even for the og ps3 tournies, they could even reach out to the community to be like, help us change. im sure out of the 500 or more that show up to majors, 60 of them would be willing to bring their xbox360s to play on for the weekend, granted there was good security and some type of insurance.
pre 09 we worked with what we had for sure, but we were vocal on shit that still wasnt a great arcade perfect port like sf alpha anthology, but now its all, stfu and buy a ps3 or stfu, but really people should be discussing it more, and testing it more, but like i said, if numbers in majors dropped from 600 down to 150 out of nowhere, but people still tuned into streams or came to spectate, that would be more then enough to be like wait wtf happened and why.
to all the new players, dont get trapped in this bullshit by these so called og's and or just extremely vocal people. we make this shit happen, its not the other way around. if we stop showing up, shit will change quick, and what are you supporting just to support for. in hopes that one day the tourney will switch over to what you finally like, and is truly the most acceptable setup for the game. what if they dont, thousands wasted on travel, food, misc, and tourney fees just for you to what, not play on the most optimal setup.
the reality of ps3 is its not just about practicing on ps3, its that finicky at times. the reality of xbox360 is not so complex, its almost always how its suppose to be, when its suppose to be that way, and thats for games even outside of fg's. i support the community, but dont enter shit that ultimately is not good for you. THIS IS YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. if you know you truly will not be able to be competitive on an ps3 setup, then dont enter. dont fall into the hype of, oh you didnt make top 8 or 16 in a major, you cant be that good, so you go on some false journey into shitty situations that just end up wasting your time and money. we resolve those problems easy. money matches on proper setups. you top 8, but im bottom 32, we'll see, bet it.
funny part is there is no ps3 players who are upset they had to play on xbox. if anything i bet it was eye opening, but vice versa, niggas be like, oh shit, i was not ready for whatever the fuck this is. its not evo, the sentiment is heard all over, and its actually seemingly more practical for smaller majors to reach out, then evo. i dont know, whatever.
its just a shame honesty has been overcome by friendship, and or false loyalty in hopes of certain capital gain. what we should be getting back on, is honest.
I totally get why they use PS3's (beyond the adapter thing, isn't it a case of sony supplying the consoles a ways back?), but still I wanna reinforce something schoultz said.
What's wrong with us that the answer is 'practice the version that doesn't work right?!' I just can't help but think of all those years where being the most absolutely arcade perfect was such an important thing for the game. Sure there's no arcade perfect now, but there is 'doesn't work'.
we are basically like shoultz said, playing mvc2 on ps2 and being like, stfu just practice on ps2 even if teh dremcast version is the closest to arcade, or playing st on ps1 or ps2 and being like, stfu, just practice it. playing old school Vs series on ps1 or some crazy shit. like no, when did we start sucking the cocks of people we dont know, for brownie points we DONT NEED, to spend money on shit we love, only for it to be on the worst available port, with most likely little to no initiative made to change that. final round and evo's numbers are pretty high, so that might be a harder task for them, but when it comes to locals, and a few other majors, they should be seeking community help at least, if there is no sponsorship help.
i think on some peoples part, its legit pure laziness, and we might not want to accept, or someone who is a friend of a friend will come in here and yell that its not that easy, but lets get real, mofos be lazy sometimes, and easy problems arent solved when they could be.
its just weird. some of our best majors are on xbox360. the seasons beatings guys, ghaleon, and i forgot, know whatsup. why is everyone frontin. get on twitter, start spreading the word at tournies. GET ON THE PROPER STANDARD AND STOP PLAYING ON GARBAGE. we might even be shocked in the results of tournies playing on better ports.
its a well knwon fact that capcom is unable to optimize their code for the console that its not the developing lead of the project
just look how awfully bad is sfxt on xbox360
SFXT is bad on xbox ? i played it on my friends xbox and it ran indentical to the ps3 version.
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SFXT is bad on xbox ? i played it on my friends xbox and it ran indentical to the ps3 version.
I believe it was Eurogamer that wrote a short, not very descriptive article saying that the 360 had slowdowns in certain areas, but since they were more casual gamers (and did not even go into hard numbers) all they really said was that there wasn't enough of a difference to be noticeable or something.
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You guys are retarded. Playing MvC2 on PS2 was bad because there was an arcade and a great DC port to compare it to. There are only two versions of MvC3: The one that gets played at Evo and the other one.
Stop being fucking dumb. If you niggas weren't all over halo this wouldn't be a problem.
it is what it is. its unfortunate for now, but dont feel alone in the complaints. everyone from regular joe, to faces of the community know ps3 is ass in general.
Wow someone is a Xbox fagboy.
I used to play tekken but now im a street fighter player.
You guys are retarded. Playing MvC2 on PS2 was bad because there was an arcade and a great DC port to compare it to. There are only two versions of MvC3: The one that gets played at Evo and the other one.
Stop being fucking dumb. If you niggas weren't all over halo this wouldn't be a problem.
Putting the Evo specific factors aside, just think about it a minute.
"There are 2 versions of the game. One has problems with input lag and even dropping inputs. The other does not."
You're not even playing the real game at that point.
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Everybody has known well in advanced now what the deal is. Either adjust, buy Evo the number of consoles + games + DLC to make the switch easy, or shut the fuck up about it because at this point griping about set ups makes all of you look like idiots.
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Consoles overheat, and like anything that overheats, unfortunate things happen.
If you're actually serious about competing and going to EVO
Then you should in theory have the money to shell out for a PS3/360, ASUS/CRT, and a controller to play.
If you only have one console, it's not that bad either. You can always get converters for Pads/Sticks or dual mods.
Not the TO's fault you can't pull off 1f links like you do on your 50" Dynex from BB.
Adopt the tournament standard people. Please.
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for world championships the most accurate port should be used every time to determine the best player. In fact, EVO used to go out of their way to supply cabinets for authenticity. There was like 2-3 EVOs in the past that ran cabinet mvc2 because console mvc2 was only 99% accurate. That last 1% was such a big difference back then to make them change their minds. Now they just don't give any fucks about the quality of the port
its not about going out and getting a ps3. Its about playing on the best version of the game and the FGC has always sought after the best port for tournament competition except for recent EVO tournies. The last 3 EVO marvel tournaments have been ran on the shittiest port available and marvel is the only game @ EVO to get dealt this hand repeatedly.
I only play marvel and I refuse to go to EVO until they fix this mess and almost every player in my area is under the same pretenses.
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if people were dropping the 1-frame links they've done a million times before, it's most likely a setup error. you'd think evo would be on top of that kind of thing.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeI play Viper in UMVC3, I like to think that I can execute her combos quite consistently. I played my neighbour in his home today (he uses a PS3), I dropped almost EVERY Viper combo, in fact, it felt like it was online. My experience isn't tournament nerves or anything else. But there is a noticeable difference between the two consoles.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeThere's a reason why people kept picking the same level/stage on stream.
Basically, when picking other stages, the game would slow the fuck down dramatically.
People will say "nuh uh!! PS3 can handle it!!" well for some reason these PS3s couldn't.
Maybe it was the setups? I dunno.
Picking the training stage resolved this issue (somewhat), but people still stated that there was input lag.
I can vouch that last year, the on-stage stream setup did have some kind of lag (input lag?), but not 100% sure about the setups in pools. But they did SLOW DOWN really bad unless training stage was selected.
And this year, I heard that people had to pick the training stages for each game to prevent some of the lag, so I dunno.
(Some games didn't slow down. Like the 3D fighters)
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeThis is already a known fact. PS3 processes its video strangely and cannot handle too much at once. Reason why backgrounds that have a lot going on in the background have lag in those stages. As far as the input lag goes, the PS3 has 3 frames of lag built in to the console. It has nothing to do with the setup. That's why I said in my original post that the timing is different from 360 and PS3. W/e though, Evo is PS3 and it not changing until next gen.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree Likeits a well knwon fact that capcom is unable to optimize their code for the console that its not the developing lead of the project
just look how awfully bad is sfxt on xbox360
the fact that other games dont have any kind of problem despite the console, shows that this is an issue from capcom
yes there are differences on the versions of sf4 and mvc3 on ps3 and 360, but in reallity they are almost minimal
and evo uses ps3's because at the begining, with the failure ratio and all shit that the 360 had, it wasnt intelligent to go with the 360
add that for that time, the majority of the player base was on ps2, the converters were more accesible, and evo already owned various ps3s because tekken 5 dr
wrong, read above
also both the ps3 and the 360 fare the same when it comes on input lag, a minimum of 3 to 4
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeSorry bud, but that's complete horse shit. It's entirely dependent on the coding of the game. See, people take SF4 (and Capcom games in general) as the logic behind the PS3 being just inherently laggy, when that's just not true. Short aside, the 360 version actually runs fast where as I believe the PS3 version was closer to the arcade, but that's besides the point.
We all know that the PS3 has two frames of delay compared to 360, this is documented.
You know what else is documented? Tekken 6 on 360 has input lag compared to PS3.
Anyone who says the PS3 has inherent input delay is either uninformed or a 360 fanboy, simple fact of the matter is that it's on the developers to make a good port. That's not to say that the PS3 isn't a problem for select games, Marvel at the very least should be played on 360 if not AE as well, but it's not a problem with the console, it's a problem with the coding.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeI guess that problem wasn't really pointed out because it's already a known issue :x
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree Likei mean everyones trying to be in everyones pockets so to speak, and uber nice to each other, but like shoultz said, evo would constantly seek to always play on the best port,and just tournies in general, but a problem arose when they got all those ps3's because of the sponsorship and tekken dr, but then all these other fg's dropped that were just shitty on ps3. if your a competitive gamer and you have no complaints from xbox360 to ps3, your a scrub, because its so blatantly apparent.its not okay to complain about sf and marvel on ps3, but if it was st, its okay.like no one is playing on anything but the euro version of the roms for old vs games, and the specific versions matching the appropriate patches, but all of a sudden, nah, stop complaining. hows it changed from older games to newer ones in general other then the fact that people keep feeding you bullshit and telling you to stfu even if you have a valid point. im confused. lol
i mean im all for the support of evo and tournies in general, but speak out with your wallets. dont fucking waste money if the setup is not to your liking, or just shitty in general. tourney organizers would catch on quick, and start making moves to ensure that people show up by being much more mindful of their setups. until then, keep wasting your money on shitty setups and complaining. i empathize that shit isnt free, so some tournies just do what they gotta do, but i think as a whole if we can just get people to stop frontin and come clean that yeah, this shits ass, then it would be all good. i mean, its just odd that ive talked to and or heard out of the mouth's of top 8 marvel and sf players about how ps3 fucking sucks, or at the very least, they know 360 is better and are aware of the issues and changes you have to adjust too to even be able to play, but like no one is having an open discussion about it.
why? because there is this dumb mentality of, yo, just buy a ps3 or pratice somehow on it before a tourney and stfu, but like even for the og ps3 tournies, they could even reach out to the community to be like, help us change. im sure out of the 500 or more that show up to majors, 60 of them would be willing to bring their xbox360s to play on for the weekend, granted there was good security and some type of insurance.
pre 09 we worked with what we had for sure, but we were vocal on shit that still wasnt a great arcade perfect port like sf alpha anthology, but now its all, stfu and buy a ps3 or stfu, but really people should be discussing it more, and testing it more, but like i said, if numbers in majors dropped from 600 down to 150 out of nowhere, but people still tuned into streams or came to spectate, that would be more then enough to be like wait wtf happened and why.
to all the new players, dont get trapped in this bullshit by these so called og's and or just extremely vocal people. we make this shit happen, its not the other way around. if we stop showing up, shit will change quick, and what are you supporting just to support for. in hopes that one day the tourney will switch over to what you finally like, and is truly the most acceptable setup for the game. what if they dont, thousands wasted on travel, food, misc, and tourney fees just for you to what, not play on the most optimal setup.
the reality of ps3 is its not just about practicing on ps3, its that finicky at times. the reality of xbox360 is not so complex, its almost always how its suppose to be, when its suppose to be that way, and thats for games even outside of fg's. i support the community, but dont enter shit that ultimately is not good for you. THIS IS YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. if you know you truly will not be able to be competitive on an ps3 setup, then dont enter. dont fall into the hype of, oh you didnt make top 8 or 16 in a major, you cant be that good, so you go on some false journey into shitty situations that just end up wasting your time and money. we resolve those problems easy. money matches on proper setups. you top 8, but im bottom 32, we'll see, bet it.
funny part is there is no ps3 players who are upset they had to play on xbox. if anything i bet it was eye opening, but vice versa, niggas be like, oh shit, i was not ready for whatever the fuck this is. its not evo, the sentiment is heard all over, and its actually seemingly more practical for smaller majors to reach out, then evo. i dont know, whatever.
its just a shame honesty has been overcome by friendship, and or false loyalty in hopes of certain capital gain. what we should be getting back on, is honest.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeWhat's wrong with us that the answer is 'practice the version that doesn't work right?!' I just can't help but think of all those years where being the most absolutely arcade perfect was such an important thing for the game. Sure there's no arcade perfect now, but there is 'doesn't work'.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree Likei think on some peoples part, its legit pure laziness, and we might not want to accept, or someone who is a friend of a friend will come in here and yell that its not that easy, but lets get real, mofos be lazy sometimes, and easy problems arent solved when they could be.
its just weird. some of our best majors are on xbox360. the seasons beatings guys, ghaleon, and i forgot, know whatsup. why is everyone frontin. get on twitter, start spreading the word at tournies. GET ON THE PROPER STANDARD AND STOP PLAYING ON GARBAGE. we might even be shocked in the results of tournies playing on better ports.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeSFXT is bad on xbox ? i played it on my friends xbox and it ran indentical to the ps3 version.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeStop being fucking dumb. If you niggas weren't all over halo this wouldn't be a problem.
"Oh, Pertho. You complete me."
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikeWow someone is a Xbox fagboy.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree LikePutting the Evo specific factors aside, just think about it a minute.
"There are 2 versions of the game. One has problems with input lag and even dropping inputs. The other does not."
You're not even playing the real game at that point.
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0 • Off Topic Disagree Agree Likeand dont forget call of mother fucking duty. In my eyes xbox is mainly for shooters.
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