(11/20 PSN!) SG: Slightly Different Edition patch notes...

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So, these are final now. Unless I forgot something.

Skullgirls: Slightly Different Edition Patch Notes
“I have detailed files.” - Cyberdyne Systems Model 101

Non-gameplay changes:
- Unlock colors 11-13 for all characters. Enjoy your freebies!
- Improvements to online play:
  • The NA and EU/ANZ versions are now compatible against each other.
  • GGPO now rolls back properly instead of slowing down at moderate or high pings, increases playable ping range by quite a bit.
  • Added many more regions for matchmaking, like Australia, Central/South America, Brazil, Gulf Coast, etc.
  • Reduce the number of tiers for PS3 matchmaking from 9 to 3, and lower the ‘acceptable match’ threshold so more matches will be found for a given number of players online.
  • Ranked matches online are now blind-pick, meaning you cannot see your opponent’s character choice until after choosing a stage.
  • Add screen flash and notification sound when you find a match.
  • Display opponent’s gamertag during a match.
  • Display opponent’s chosen assist types on character select.
  • Addressed the sound issues. Not all problems are fixed but overall should be much better, especially on item drops.
- Improved loading times on 360. Reorganized the entire filesystem. Hopefully it’s enough!
- Added In-Game Move Lists, now you can ignore them instead of just wishing they were there to be ignored.
- Rebalanced AI Difficulty.
- Added Tournament Mode:
  • Disables granting of in-match Achievements/Trophies to prevent gameplay hiccups.
  • Forces menu flow of controller select -> button config -> choose characters -> play.
  • Uses default rounds and time settings regardless of current choices in the options menu.
  • Disables Sparring Mode toggle.
  • Allows all non-DLC colors to be used regardless of in-game unlock status.
  • Returns to the controller select screen if 1p or 2p controller is unplugged at the post-match menu. (Does not do this if a controller is unplugged mid-match.)
  • Forces button config whenever both players choose to return to character select.
  • Is part of this complete breakfast.
- Added more Training Mode options:
  • The Select/Back button can be set to either save/load state, record/playback dummy actions, or do both at once. Easily test any setup with precise positioning every time, at the touch of a button! (Hold the button down, or press LP+HK+Select, to clear the saved state or actions.)
  • The dummy recording can be set to play back as a reversal. This has endless uses...figure out what is safe against Showstopper, learn to deal with reversal Napalm Pillars or opponents mashing LP or throw, etc.
  • Input Display (List / Realtime Stick / Both)
  • Dummy Action (Manual / Crouch / Jump)
  • Blocking (Never / After First Hit / Always / First Hit Only / Random)
  • Block Type (High / Low / All)
  • Pushblock (Never / After Anywhere From 1 to 10 Blocked Hits)
  • Throw Tech (Never / Always / After First Hit / Random)
  • Ground Tech (Never / Forward / Backward / Random)
  • Escape Infinite Combos (Never / After Anywhere From 1 to 10 Burstable Hits)
  • Dummy Playback (Once / Repeat / As Reversal)
  • Dummy Playback Side Correction: Choose whether the dummy recording is treated as relative directions (D,DB,B) or absolute directions (Down,Down-Left,Left) when the dummy changes sides. Useful for testing tech punishes or how to deal with crossups.
- Added Character Tutorials: Each character now has simple tutorials in place to teach the beginning players how to perform all of their Special and Blockbuster attacks, with some helpful tips on their use. (Note: Completing these tutorials is now a requirement for the “Sküllgirls” trophy/achievement.)
- Hitboxes displaying when switching characters is replaced by temporarily displaying 8-bit versions of the art, which is much less disruptive to gameplay.
- PAL-50 support with correct frameskip on both consoles.
- Logos at startup are now skippable on both consoles.
- Sparring Mode now saves game state when turned on, and loads it when turned off. Stop the match to check something and resume exactly where you left off! If a new match is started with Sparring Mode already on, the behavior is the same as before.
- Black-and-white super background now fades out in 8f instead of 15f, hopefully helps with determining when DHCs are allowed.
- Only the player in charge of the menu can press the Cancel button to leave the Controller Select screen for Versus and Tournament mode.
- Button config screen now counts mapping the same button or moving the cursor as an action that will keep a player’s screen open when the other player dismisses their screen.
- Button config no longer ignores button presses when another button is held. You can go as fast as you want!
- Main Menu and Training Mode now have 2-player button config, rather than just first player.
- Display chosen assist-type names on character select screen.
- In the Tutorials, move inputs are now described with button icons instead of text.

- Add color #18 for everyone, automatically unlocks if you have all other DLC colors.
- EVEN SHORTER load times on XBox than the previously shorter-than-ship ones.
- Buying DLC colors for a character will also unlock their colors 7-9, and their story mode if applicable.
- Can hold Assist 1 or Assist 2 button combinations during loading or between matches to swap starting team order. Once changed, team order stays as the new order, like MvC2, rather than requiring you to hold the button every match. Works in Arcade Mode, Versus Mode, and Tournament Mode. Doesn’t work online, unfortunately.
If you have a team of 2, holding any assist button swaps the characters.
If you have a team of 3, holding Assist 1 swaps 1st and 2nd characters, Assist 2 swaps 1st and 3rd characters, and both Assists swaps 2nd and 3rd characters, the same as MvC2.
- End-of-match timer in Unranked is now 90 sec instead of 15. I was unable to entirely get rid of it. :^(
- Fix dropped inputs for P2 in button config if P1 hit a button on the same frame. Yes, really.
- When either player chooses Return to Main Menu, it immediately happens rather than waiting for the other player to have to choose.
- Add Next Unfinished Lesson option to tutorial end menu.
- Improve visibility of right-side text in tutorials.
- Improve the setting of button macros: When on a macro line, simply press the buttons you wish the macro to be (e.g. LP+MK) and they will be set. To clear a macro, press the macro button. Basically, they work like you would think they should, rather than requiring unnecessary extra button presses.
- Stop Peacock’s bomb-dropping noise at the end of a round/match fadeout. Yay.
- Prettied up that logo billboard on Medici Tower. (^.^)
- Hit voiceover is now played after hitstop, like 3s and older SF’s, rather than upon impact like SF4. Makes impacts sound more solid, and vastly improves the annoyance of things like Argus Agony vs. Filia or Fortune.
- Team size now defaults to 2-character choice highlighted.
- Trial version of the game allows play as Peacock and Filia, rather than Cerebella and Filia, and the AI defaults to Easy. (^.^)
- On “Press button to Invite” screen, Circle/B are now “cancel” rather than still being “invite”.
- Fix supershadows on XBox to be shaded properly, rather than backward. Whoops.
- Fix leaderboard behavior on XBox, no more losing rank when winning matches.
- Fix save-data corruption on PS3 when quitting, YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

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  • Mike_ZMike_Z Defender of the Night Joined: Posts: 2,165
    Infinite Prevention System (IPS) changes:
    - IPS now counts stand and crouch moves as the “same thing”. Command normals count as the same also, so s.F+HK = cr.HK = s.HK and j.B+LK = j.LK.
    - IPS now counts all strengths of a given special move as the “same thing”, meaning anything with the same motion but a different strength P or K. This was already true for most characters, so now it is true for everyone. Considering how rare un-chained special moves are, this should not affect very much except specific known instances.
    - IPS burst-allowed hitsparks no longer show up on anything except the point character.
    - Tag-in attacks are now covered by IPS.
    - All tags and DHCs now start you at the correct IPS stage when comboed into.
    - IPS correctly handles 1-frame links, for example in Parasoul’s {s.LK->s.HP xx LP Tear Shot, s.LK->s.HP, tear explosion, s.LK}, the last s.LK is now correctly flagged by IPS every time.
    - IPS state no longer continues across zero-frame resets. Each new combo should be completely separate.
    - Without a jump-in attack, your first ground combo no longer erroneously counts as your jump-in chain. Previously, at the start of a combo the exact same ground chain could be repeated three times, but only twice if preceded by a jump-in. Now, the same chain may only be repeated twice regardless of whether you started with a jump-in.

    Gameplay changes:
    - 3% game speed increase (frameskip interval changed). DOES NOT AFFECT FRAME DATA / RELATIVE MOVEMENT SPEEDS / ANYTHING ELSE RELATIVE TO OTHER CHARACTERS, only player-experienced game speed.
    - Increase frames-per-timer-second to offset frameskip change, time-outs still take roughly the same amount of real time.
    - Throw tech window increased from 6f -> 10f. Grab Bag tech window is still 4f.
    - All assist knockdowns that would be red bounces are now green bounces: still completely vulnerable, techable 9f after hitting the floor, vulnerable as normal if not teched. Requires better timing to OTG off random assist hits now - see MvC2.
    - Add LK+HP as an additional command for Assist 1. Should help pad players.
    - Add right-stick assist calls: move the right-stick up for Assist 1, move down for Assist 2. More pad-player help. Can be disabled from Button Config screen.
    - Specifically disallow same-frame throw plus assist-call inputs like LP+LK+MK or LP+LK+MK+HP to prevent 1-button throw+assist macro abuse.
    - Assist calls are now valid for 5f after the input is entered, similar to MvC2.
    - Assist character damage taken when hit changed from 6% extra -> 20% extra.
    - Assist characters are now always shown behind point characters except when grabbing someone, meaning no more invisible mixups behind large assist moves.
    - Changes to prevent dead body abuse: stop time when the point character is dead; attacker gains zero meter from the act of hitting a dead point character, but dead character still gains meter by being hit; dead point characters become invincible as soon as IPS triggers on them.
    - 5f input leniency added to chained normals, as well as normals and airdashes from jump/superjump/doublejump startup. You can now hit the next button 5f before your attack connects and it will come out, and you can now press buttons or input an airdash during jump startup and they will come out as if they were input on the first frame of the jump. Does not apply to throws!
    - Fix assist call priority to prevent lots of weird cases of getting the wrong assist. Simultaneous inputs always win, so HK ~ LK+MP will be A1 and LK ~ HK+MP will be A2. For kara’d inputs, the input performed later will always win if they completed on the same frame, so HK~LK~MP is A1 but LK~HK~MP is A2. And lastly, calls for both are resolved for A2 (LK+MP+HK and LK+HK ~ MP) because they used to be random...but don’t do those. :^P
    - Correct neutral-to-blocking transitions: changing block directions on the frame you are touched should no longer result in blocking a low attack with stand stance / blocking a high attack with crouch stance.
    - All characters except Double can now cancel forward dash directly into backdash and backdash directly into forward dash. (Valentine will still get an airdash out of her ground backdash.)
    - Allow PP backdashing from preblock animation. Previously when the opponent was attacking at close range B,B would backdash but B+PP would result in a normal attack. Now both will correctly backdash.
    - Bug-to-feature conversion: Bursts now scale damage to 50%, plus count as one hit. ...why might this be necessary? (^.^)

    - Add 3f to all blockstun, everywhere.
    - Characters come in slightly faster after a snap or death (92f -> 75f).
    - Peacock, Cerebella, and Double’s tag-ins are now the same speed as everyone else’s (20f instead of 30f).
    - Solo character health and damage changed: health 200% -> 210%, damage 175% -> 160%.
    - Damage formula for combos changed:
    Old 100, 100, 100, 85%, 72.2% (0.85*0.85), etc, with a minimum of 25% on hits >= 1000 base damage and 15% otherwise.
    New 100, 100, 100, 87.5%, 76.5% (0.875*0.875), etc, with a minimum of 27.5% on hits >= 1000 base damage and 20% otherwise.
    - Snapbacks changed:
    -- Assist characters no longer get snapped out along with point characters, allowing MvC2-style double-snaps if close enough to the corner.
    -- While the assist character is being comboed, the former point character will regain health at a higher-than-normal rate, and will also auto-generate meter slowly. You best kill that assist!
    -- Getting hit by a snapback will always allow an OTG afterward, even if the OTG had already been used. They do not accumulate - hitting with 3 snapbacks in a row only allows 1 OTG afterward, not 3...but OTGing, then hitting with a snapback, then OTGing, then hitting with another snapback, then OTGing again is possible.
    - Pushblock-Guard-Cancel is possible: If not holding any Back or Down direction when the pushblock animation completes, the character will immediately return to neutral regardless of remaining blockstun. Use your imagination!
    - Add ability to mmrph mrph during pushblock, a-la MvC2 and older Versus games. (^.~)
    - All regular and special throws now scale followup combo damage to 50%. Throws which previously scaled the damage lower (Excellebella, Pummel Horse) still scale it to the lower amount.
    - Assists now jump out away from the opponent even if they switch sides during their assist animation.

    Overall bugfixes:
    - Player 2 DHCing at the same time as any superflash or DHC from P1 no longer freezes the game.
    - Allow negative-edge inputs for DHCs.
    - Snapbacks work properly vs. Cerebella’s Battle Butt.
    - Fortune’s head will no longer float offscreen when she dies.
    - Fix unnecessary checking for achievements after they are already granted, preventing a once-per-boot hiccup.
    - Unranked Online: Player 2 picking “Change Stage” should no longer freeze on Stage Select.
    - R1 no longer acts as an “OK” button on menus, hopefully allowing some nonstandard controllers to work properly.
    - Pressing up-back while airborne near an attacking enemy if you have a doublejump remaining will no longer cancel doublejump startup into preblock and cause the character to wrongly fall straight to the ground.
    - Forward/back jumps no longer override each other, UF~UB will now jump forward and UB~UF will jump backward. Either direction will still override a neutral jump.
    - Stunt Double (alpha counter) action can no longer be overridden by pressing a button on the frame the character lands. [Whoops.]
    - Floating “15” will no longer randomly appear after Unranked matches online.
    - DHCing on the frame before a hit would have made contact will no longer allow the hit to connect after the DHC. ( http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17841164 is now not possible.)
    - Ground techs now use newest input if both inputs are entered during the tech window. Tweaked the early/late tech windows to make more sense, previously it was possible to input a tech *very* early and have it count as tech for the 2nd bounce but not for the 1st bounce.
    - Fixed a bug where the next character could come in attacking backward after death! Conditions - opponent crosses over the corpse and is facing the wrong way, like during a jump, and the character coming in does a reversal attack on the frame they appear. Well...it's fixed! [vidya link removed because it apparently doesn't work anymore? WTH, twitch.]
    - Fix bug when airblocking an attack right at ground level which caused the character to land and be vulnerable during hit-stop. Removes possible corner unblockable with Death Crawl.
    - Assists whiffing through the opponent (for example, an attack during a point character throw, or a throw assist during point-character-induced hitstun) no longer use up your assist call for that combo.
    - Bursting correctly resets your OTG and stagger status. Previously, baiting and punishing a burst would not grant you a new OTG or allow the opponent to be staggered again if they had been staggered before.
    - Everyone’s throws now face toward the opponent properly.
    - Everyone’s airthrow now faces toward the opponent properly during a superjump.

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    ---- Character specific changes ----

    Cerebella:
    - On the Custom Assist screen, F,D,DF,F+LP+LK gives Excellebella rather than Diamond Drop.
    - Doublejump is also 360-locked, prevents accidental doublejumps when attempting jump-in supers.
    - Forward dash horizontal movement starts 3f earlier, 14f startup -> 11f. As with all dashes, momentum on attacks still happens even on the first frame.
    - Range on Excellebella increased slightly horizontally and downward.
    - Excellebella is no longer supercancellable after the inital 4f, removing the Excellebella xx Showstopper option select.
    - Tag-in causes small slide rather than regular knockdown. Still not able to combo afterward, but prevents opponent teching a raw tag and either being able to punish her on hit or ending up a full screen away. Still techable/punishable if you have already used up your OTG when you combo into it, so don’t do that.
    - Air command throw properly faces the opponent.
    - Merry-Go-Rilla now does correct damage as an assist, rather than half. Assist still scales the followup combo to 50%.
    - Pummel Horse now hits crouching Valentine.
    - s.HP/HK, c.MP/MK/HP, j.MP/MK damage lowered by 25 per hit. j.HP damage lowered by 50 (1100 -> 1050).
    - j.MK hitstun 22f->19f.
    - Unchained j.MP knocks back slightly less vs air, but when chained into knocks downward much faster.
    - The “stop” part of run-stop no longer gives meter.
    - Ground- and air-throw whiffs no longer cancel assist calls, like everyone else.
    - 360 rotations now allow only 5f between valid directions, the same as every other special. Down from 7f. Helps prevent getting 360s when you meant to do QCT/QCB.

    - Ultimate Showstopper can be cancelled into Devil Horns (DP+MP) after they land on the sword, but before the final damage is dealt. Scales followup combos.
    - Longer supercancel time on j.D+MP landing.
    - Reflect (DP+LP) hitstun from Cerebella herself made longer, move is no longer minus on hit. Can now combo into Lv3. Still very minus on block.
    - When pushblock-guard-cancelling into Ultimate Showstopper, if performed within 6 frames of the guard cancel there will be varying additional startup frames after the superflash. When performed 0f after the end of pushblock, there will be 6f of post-flash startup, when performed 5f after the superflash there will be 1f of post-flash startup, and in-between works like you think it does.

    Double:
    - Changes to Hornet Bomber: LK version invincible through first active frame, MK version invincible up to first active frame, HK version not invincible. All versions lose active hitbox during descent so it is easier to hit her out of it later on. Supercancel period on landing shortened from 30f->4f to match most other special moves. Landing hit-stop is still supercancellable, so the change is only noticeable on whiff.
    - All QCF motions now require the full QCF, instead of just D,DF.
    - Zero meter gain during Furoboros (cat heads).
    - Changes to Lv3: Sped up overall; no longer invincible for the entire duration, invincibility now wears off after she turns into Filia; last hit knocks the opponent away from Double; reduced damage to make it more even with other Lv3s; recovery on block slightly longer.
    - Changes to reduce the ease of hitconfirms: j.HP hitstun reduced by 5f, blockstun unchanged; s.MK(1) hitstun reduced; cr.MK, s.HK slowed down by 2f each.
    - Changes to Lv5: invincibility wears off as soon as you press any button to shoot or create a bomb. Rings do 2f less blockstun and have 2f longer cooldown between them, so full-screen random mashing no longer combos.
    - Added missing hitboxes below her ground-impact frames so attempting low attacks to OTG won’t randomly whiff underneath her anymore.
    - Fixed crumple anim to have crouch-hitstun and OTG-hitstun portions line up with everyone else's. Previously they both occurred too early in the animation for certain combos to be possible on her.
    - Remove 5f of invincibility from the middle of her dash and backdash, total invincibility 13f->8f.
    - Assist taunt-before-leaving stops being a physical barrier 20f earlier. It mistakenly occupied space during the part where she collapses and disappears. She is still vulnerable to hits for this 20f, but you can run through her properly now.

    - j.WK/j.HP are properly pushblock-able in the middle now.
    - Can control the direction of the car super by holding Back during the superflash to have it come out from the other side of the screen.
    - Meter gain during Furoboros (cat heads) now 1/2 what it was in the shipped game.
    - s.MK restored to shipped-game speed (removed from above list of changed normals).
    - Restored some frames of invincibility on her dashes (edited above).

    Filia:
    - Airball and air Gregor Samson are now possible with negative-edge, and Airball correctly allows assist calls along with the move.
    - Flatline DHC to Fenrir Drive vs another Filia no longer misses the rest of Fenrir.
    - Hairball fixes: No longer unsafe on hit vs characters with air supers. Final hit vs. standing opponents properly combos to Gregor Samson vs everybody.
    - Airball fixes: Recovery shortened, no longer unsafe on hit, still unsafe on block; can airdash-cancel the end on hit or whiff but not on block, and only with a forward dash; will always do the air version of the recovery even if Filia lands during the attack.
    - Increase recovery of air Gregor Samson by 4f. Still a good escape, but slightly less free.
    - j.HP and j.WP hit area extended closer to Filia’s body to prevent SFA3-style whiffs up close.
    - j.WP given more vertical hit area for the same reason.
    - j.HP +2f hitstun and knocks back slightly less vs. air. Blockstun unchanged, vs. ground behavior unchanged.
    - j.HK hitstop on opponent increased by 3f to prevent crossup bug.
    - s.HP hitbox slightly wider and extends slightly lower, it now combos in many situations where it would miss by one pixel previously (after s.MK on standing Painwheel, etc.)
    - Ground- and air-throw whiffs no longer cancel assist calls, like everyone else.
    - Airthrow recovery on whiff shortened to match everyone else’s.

    - Improve Hairball on hit, no longer unsafe. Longer hitstun for the last hit, Gregor Samson should always combo afterward.
    - Allow dash-cancels from the last hit of Airball on hit or whiff, not on block. Only possible if you have not airdashed. Filia is unable to crouch or jump out of the dash if the HK version is cancelled into a ground dash, but can do ground attacks as usual.
    - Lv3 startup improved, 12+3 -> 8+1; recovery 9f faster; hitbox on first frame bigger; damage changed from 4200 always to 4750 on first frame and 3000 after first frame.
    - Add back previously-removed extra win poses. Selectable by holding various buttons after the round.

    Ms. Fortune:
    - Headless Furserker Purrage now connects properly vs. crouching Painwheel and Fortune.
    - A successful level 3 will prevent time-up until it finishes, as with other “cinematic” supers.
    - During Omnomnom, her head will now fly away from the nearest screen edge when the move ends or is interrupted.
    - Head recall now plays 9f of the loop even if the button is not held. This prevents it from being able to be used without ever picking up the head, as well as removing a ridiculous meter gain exploit. Rekka->rekka->recall cancel is still possible.
    - Headless Stunt Double (alpha counter) with s.HP and c.HP no longer plays the head-attached attack, as well as having recovery longer than 1f.
    - El Gato overhead attack from rekkas sped up. [edit, missed this] Also is now super-cancellable up through the hit. Rekka->overhead startup xx air super is possible.
    - Headbutt (neutral+HP) and head slides (F/B+HP) damage equalized to 675, and all give meter equivalent to a projectile rather than a physical attack on hit.
    - Screw Attack (head attack when the head is hit by her own body) damage reduced from 575->500, and gives meter equivalent to a projectile rather than a physical attack on hit.

    - Cat Spike is now knockdown instead of ground bounce.
    - Headless s.MP -5f hitstun.
    - Head attacks will no longer hit out of the air (will always OTG) after: Rekka 3rd hit, rekka->slide, chained j.HK. The single exception is that Sneeze will juggle off chained j.HK.
    - Furrserker Purrage [head] last hit knocks the opponent higher, slides further, and is easier to combo after in the corner.
    - Can now perform Sneeze after the last hit of a successful air super with her head on, to continue the combo headless.
    - Rekka -> overhead is now supercancellable, rekka -> overhead xx air super will combo.
    - Rekka series strength is determined by first Punch used, like Yang. Can no longer do 1st Light, 2nd Medium, 3rd Hard...if the first one is Light, all will be Light regardless of which Punch is used to continue.
    - Redistribute rekka damage so most is in the 3rd hit, and rebalance damage slightly:
    LP:
    Old 450+500+650=1600
    New 300+350+950=1600
    MP:
    Old 575+625+775=1975
    New 350+400+1100=1850
    HP:
    Old 700+750+900=2350
    New 400+450+1250=2100

    Painwheel:
    - Can no longer rev Pinion Dash for an obnoxiously long time after winning a round.
    - Pinion Dash command changed to hold D+KKKKK...release D, rather than D,D+K. Can press P while revving to cancel. Custom Assist command is D+2K.
    - MP/HP nail shots correctly face opponent.
    - Changes to air super: Increase minimum damage to 1100, comparable to other supers; on hit only, recovers to jump state which immediately allows flight for continued pressure and prevents it from being punishable if opponent had already been OTG’d; post-flash invincibility reduced from 45f (!) to 17f.
    - Death Crawl is now vulnerable to throws. Hit invincibility period unchanged.
    - F+HK leniency between hits decreased by 3f, now impossible to have it un-combo by delaying too long.
    - Flying upward is slower if the opponent’s point character is also rising. Her rise speed is unaffected if the opponent is standing or falling. This allows everyone’s jump to have a chance to catch her when she’s at the top of the screen, and allows one flying Painwheel to catch another, but doesn’t affect her gameplay much otherwise. Does not affect first-frame momentum for normals at all.

    - Can fly-cancel scythe grabs (QCT+K) on hit.
    - Scythe grab hitboxes adjusted.
    - Ground LK scythe grab doesn’t knock down, can fly-cancel to combo or use for re-stands.
    - Air super adjusted: Always fully connects off any hit (all hits can now grab, not just the 3rd); fly-cancellable on last hit; startup improved, 6+5 -> 3+1; startup invincibility shortened, will no longer come even close to going all the way through a burst.
    - s.HP damage 1000 -> 900, hitstun -5f. s.HP xx fly, flying MK no longer combos afterward vs grounded opponent.
    - c.HP dmg 1050 -> 950, floorbounce height decreased. Flying MK no longer combos without OTGing.
    - F+HKx4 damage lowered, floorbounce height decreased. Flying MK no longer combos without OTGing.
    - Hatred Install startup improved, 5+6 -> 3+3.
    - j.MP is properly pushblock-able in the middle now.
    - Pinion Dash accepts old command (D,D+K) as well as new command (D+mash Kicks). Using different Kick strengths to choose Pinion Dash as custom assist will now give different strengths in-game: LK = Lv1, MK = Lv3, HK = Lv4.

    Parasoul:
    - Tear explosions correctly scale by ratio and are affected by combo damage scaling.
    - Explosion hitstun 37->36f, blockstun 19f->14f to prevent certain lockdowns, chip damage 250->150.
    - Fix issue with some palettes where certain frames incorrectly showed parts of her glasses.
    - Silent Scope no longer misses crouching Painwheel after MP Tear Shot.
    - j.HP hitbox extended closer to Parasoul’s body to prevent whiffs up close vs airborne characters.
    - j.MK +1f hitstun; held-button float moves faster forward/backward and allows another attack immediately when button is released.
    - j.D+MK->j.MK is now a chain rather than a reverse-beat, meaning your first Stomp->j.MK is valid even though they count as the same move under IPS now.
    - Lengthen DHC window on Motor Brigade by 8f.
    - Motor Brigade now drags opponent downward on hit, allowing more of the super to connect more of the time. Hitstop on opponent increased slightly for the same reason.
    - Remove erroneous 3f invincibility after the hit was already finished on Napalm Pillar.
    - Blockstun on Napalm Pillar shortened by 1f to prevent strange interaction with Crimson Hunting at max distance.
    - Parasoul will no longer ground-tech the wrong way if crossed up after a knockdown, for example after being hit by Death Crawl.
    - Ground- and air-throw whiffs no longer cancel assist calls, like everyone else.
    - Egret Charge should always cause wallbounce now. Previously it may not have, if the camera were moving too quickly.

    - Allow RC Soldier (B,F+LK) to be used to cancel out of her Lv3. New combo and mixup opportunities appear!
    - Reduce damage of Lv3 slightly to compensate for new cancel buff.
    - j.B+WK is properly pushblock-able in the middle now.

    Peacock:
    - Window for inputting QCB+PP for Goodfellows (Lv3) after a successful throw widened.
    - All special moves correctly face opponent, no more backward gunshots after ground-teching past the opponent. (Oops.)
    - Slightly reduce meter gain for connecting with Bang shots, HP cannonball, and all Georges.
    - Overall meter gain reduced to 1/3 while holding a Shadow of Impending Doom.
    - Redistribute damage for Argus Agony: ~300 lower unscaled damage, same minimum damage (on average, subject to randomness).
    - Lenny damage 3000->3800, chip 650->800.
    - Lenny fix: DHC window is the same but it is no longer possible for a DHC to be “too early” and result in the bomb not being created. Placement and explosion timing unchanged.
    - Teleport now recovers 4f more slowly, starts up 3f faster; still vulnerable for 2f at the start; able to be supercanceled 3f earlier during recovery; fake teleport startup and recovery unchanged.
    - All Lv1 items will always OTG in the proper direction, towards Peacock. Accomplished by allowing the Jippo bottle to be flipped (oppiJ!). Any Lv2 and Lv3 items which always face the same direction may still knock them the wrong way as OTGs, so be careful.
    - Argus Agony hitbox extended closer to Peacock, no longer whiffs up close vs standing Painwheel or vs random other close attacks.
    - LP and MP Bang! hitboxes extended back toward Peacock to prevent them from whiffing up close in certain circumstances.
    - LP and MP versions of Bang! carry over their specific invincibilities (LP invincible to hits, MP to throws) through the entire active portion, as opposed to just the first active frame. First 2f of both moves are still fully vulnerable.
    - HP BANG! shots do 33 more chip (300 total -> 400 total, or to look at that differently, at base dmg 48 triple shots to kill by chip -> 36 now, same as Cable’s Viper Beams.)
    - Item drop chip increase: Lv1 150->200, Lv2 250->300, Lv3 400->500.
    - Argus Agony small lasers +2f hitstun to prevent certain patterns from allowing the opponent to recover and retaliate. Blockstun unchanged.
    - Airthrow recovery on hit shortened to prevent low airthrows being punishable by Double.

    - Can super-cancel from teleport recovery much earlier, before she has fully appeared.
    - Can cancel George tosses into each other anytime after the bomb is created.
    - Recovery after placing Lenny improved by 5f.
    - Can place another Lenny as soon as the explosion happens, rather than having to wait for the smoke to dissipate.

    Valentine:
    - Lv3 cinematic is skippable by the Valentine player holding any Punch during the fade-out.
    - Flatline will only hit point characters, never assists/heads/Lenny/etc, and will not kill until the final hit.
    - Hitting Valentine during her counter stance with her own Lv3 or Mortuary Drop no longer wrongly costs her 4 bars of meter. Only takes the correct 2 bars away.
    - Hitstun poison (MP) only lasts 2/3 as long when the opponent is in hitstun. Blockstun does not affect the time.
    - j.HP hitstun reduced by 2f, knocks up 1 pixel higher vs airborne opponents. Prevents an exploit. Still combos into HK Savage Bypass, etc.
    - Countervenom (Lv2 poison counter) hitbox much taller, will no longer whiff on max height Painwheel j.MP. Can still whiff vs. Parasoul max height sj.HK, be careful.
    - c.HP blockstun shortened by 6f, “feels” like all other launchers now in terms of punishing it.
    - Air and ground Savage Bypass recovery shortened.
    - Fortune is no longer able to move her head during the Prescription freeze; Peacock item drops disappear properly if she is hit by Prescription freeze.
    - Counter super now properly faces opponent on startup.

    - Allow movement after air scalpel super.
    - Mortuary Drop restores air options when super-cancelled.
    - Lengthen DHC window on scalpels by 7f air, 4f ground.
    - Increase throw damage to 800. Since all throws now scale to 50% now, her throw no longer gives an unscaled standing combo, thus the previous low damage amount is unacceptable.
    - Fix bone bounce sound during time-out.

    Marie:
    - All attacks now give the opponent meter on hit or block.
    - Small skulls have energy background, easier to see.
    - Add Apocalypse-style hitstun. Triggered by taking enough damage quickly, and more easily by supers.
    - Fix various bugs like floating around and otherwise behaving oddly.
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    [That's the end, but this is reserved just in case.]
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  • ChindoggChindogg Haters gonna hate. Joined: Posts: 775
    You realize that if Capcom did this it would cost us $15 and another stupid subtitle.
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    Jokes aside, this is amazing. Great job Mike.
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    - Added more Training Mode options
    - 3% game speed increase
    - Assists whiffing through the opponent (for example, an attack during a point character throw, or a throw assist during point-character-induced hitstun) no longer use up your assist call for that combo.

    Awesome!
    Will we ever get a chance to put the opponent on cpu-difficulty to practice on a dummy that fights back?
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  • OnirosOniros Joined: Posts: 107
    Jokes aside, this is amazing. Great job Mike.
    Agreed. Crossing my fingers everything goes well, so that the people at Reverge Labs have more time to polish and release the PC version. Can't wait!
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    "- Changes to prevent dead body abuse: stop time when the point character is dead; attacker gains zero meter from the act of hitting a dead point character, but dead character still gains meter by being hit; dead point characters become invincible as soon as IPS triggers on them."

    makes me so sad. right now if i kill any charcater with a launch or in the air with a normal with parasoul i can always rejump jab short medium punch on the dead body over and over again to get corner carry so the next charcater comes in in the corner. so sad.
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  • guitalex2007guitalex2007 Joined: Posts: 3,023
    ---- Character specific changes ----

    Ms. Fortune:
    - El Gato overhead attack from rekkas sped up.

    Unless it was removed, you didn't mention being able to super cancel El Gato from the rekkas into an air super. Is that still in?

    (Also heads up: I can't see the video you linked for the "facing the wrong way" vid because 2h13m40s is way after the 2h that the video lasts...)
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  • InokiInoki My Rival is Lag Joined: Posts: 95
    Good stuff. I'm looking forward to diving back into Skullgirls when this gets through submission.
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  • SnugglesSnuggles Joined: Posts: 24
    - Overall meter gain reduced to 1/3 while holding a Shadow of Impending Doom.

    Does this mean if I'm holding my SID, all of my moves will only gain 1/3rd of their usual meter?
  • MetallixMetallix Born Too Late Joined: Posts: 120
    Loving these changes. Now that MVC3 is dead to me, I can't wait to invest more time into this game.
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  • fluxcorefluxcore Fighting Kiwi Joined: Posts: 291
    A lot of really great changes here, very much looking forward to having it available. Especially on PC :)

    Awesome work, Mike.
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  • guitalex2007guitalex2007 Joined: Posts: 3,023
    Does this mean if I'm holding my SID, all of my moves will only gain 1/3rd of their usual meter?
    That's exactly what it means.

    When you consider the amount of fear you instill into the opponent with the shadow looming over their heads, seems fair lol
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  • YotsuYotsu Here on Official Cat Business Joined: Posts: 4
    Any chance of extra regions being added so that Australia players can be matched with other Australian players? (instead of having to go US/JP?)
  • RavidrathRavidrath Joined: Posts: 761
    Any chance of extra regions being added so that Australia players can be matched with other Australian players? (instead of having to go US/JP?)

    Guess that was left out of the notes? Because that's in the patch.
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    Guess that was left out of the notes? Because that's in the patch.
    Awesome! Thank you!
  • The Last MilletianThe Last Milletian Rank 1 Windmill: Spin to Win Joined: Posts: 57
    I was looking forward to seeing a bossless Arcade mode. But ah well, can't ask for everything. Good shit Mike, maybe now I will stop getting bodied by that impossible to confirm every time Double Parashot to Bionic Car combo.
  • InxplotchInxplotch Internet wanderer Joined: Posts: 379
    I call shenanigans on Marie no longer being an unflinching wall of hate.

    Otherwise, all of this looks cool, and I want to know what was found to cause bursts to scale like that.
  • SnugglesSnuggles Joined: Posts: 24
    That's exactly what it means.

    When you consider the amount of fear you instill into the opponent with the shadow looming over their heads, seems fair lol

    Just wanted to be clear. I play rush-down Peacock, so my game pretty much revolves around SID and meter gain so I can AA off of anything. I just personally feel like 1/3rd is a bit harsh, considering Peacock is lacking pretty hard in the combo/defense department already.
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    Did the ability to alpha counter off of a burst (you showed this in the offcast stream) make it in?
  • guitalex2007guitalex2007 Joined: Posts: 3,023
    Just wanted to be clear. I play rush-down Peacock, so my game pretty much revolves around SID and meter gain so I can AA off of anything. I just personally feel like 1/3rd is a bit harsh, considering Peacock is lacking pretty hard in the combo/defense department already.
    Oh, I play her that way too. Although I'm only holding the item drop until I open the opponent up, so meter gain will be likely very close to what it is being used like that.

    Another thing: as soon as you let go, meter gain goes back to normal. Meaning if you toss out some Georges and let the item go before they hit, or toss out some shots then let the item go before they hit, the meter gain from the shots/Georges will not be affected at all (other than at startup); only the meter gain done while actively holding the item will be reduced.
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  • Number 13Number 13 The Courage to Skullgirl Joined: Posts: 1,545
    Got an erection reading that patch note (More like a patch essay) :D. Wow, great job Reverge in putting alot of effort in your game and finding ways to fix issues/make improvements. Satisfied enough that I won't ask for dlc characters like every other stream monster (at least for awhile since i want someone to team up with my Solo FIlia)

    SfxT needs a patch note of this length and importance like this to overhaul their game (felt like it was a waste of opportunity making their main focus to fix the knife freeze glitch)
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    Oh, I play her that way too. Although I'm only holding the item drop until I open the opponent up, so meter gain will be likely very close to what it is being used like that.

    Another thing: as soon as you let go, meter gain goes back to normal. Meaning if you toss out some Georges and let the item go before they hit, or toss out some shots then let the item go before they hit, the meter gain from the shots/Georges will not be affected at all (other than at startup); only the meter gain done while actively holding the item will be reduced.

    Well, I'll have to see when the patch comes out. I'm still a little worried that 1/3rd might be a bit harsh but I'll have to deal with it. Thanks for the quick clarification and explanation. I appreciate it.
  • PsykenPsyken Valentine Joined: Posts: 8
    "Hitting Valentine during her counter stance with her own Lv3 or Mortuary Drop no longer wrongly costs her 4 bars of meter. Only takes the correct 2 bars away." Not sure I understand this.. I may just be retarded though.. sorry..
  • InxplotchInxplotch Internet wanderer Joined: Posts: 379
    "Hitting Valentine during her counter stance with her own Lv3 or Mortuary Drop no longer wrongly costs her 4 bars of meter. Only takes the correct 2 bars away." Not sure I understand this.. I may just be retarded though.. sorry..
    Valentine mirror match. Being grabbed by the body bag (such as in mortuary drop or dead on arrival) while using the counter super seems to have caused the countering Val to spend double the meter.

    In short: Counter super Vs body-bag= double meter spent.
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    That was a lot to read. I'm liking the Peacock chip damage buffs. I'm still uncertain if I'll still play her post patch. Filia looking really good now.
  • BlueYoshiMenaceBlueYoshiMenace SkullGirls clean up animator Joined: Posts: 2
    I didn't see a mention of Cerebella's over all damage nerf. Is that still included? Or do her changers make the nerf too strong?
  • We Are VenomWe Are Venom Joined: Posts: 102
    That's alot to read but I skimmed it and I'm really liking the looks of this patch (especially the training mode options ohhh yeaaahhhh). I unfortunately haven't played this game much at all since Toryuken, which was the last tournament I entered SG for but I'll definitely be returning after this patch. I just hated practicing and not knowing what was going to be patched out or changed....plus I got Diablo 3 right after that tourney ended.
  • Mike_ZMike_Z Defender of the Night Joined: Posts: 2,165
    1/3 meter gain while hold Shadow only applies while you're actually HOLDING it. And considering a held Shadow gives you a 3-frame antiair anywhere, it's not unfair. (^.^)
    Awesome! Thank you!
    Fixed here, too. Gulf Coast ahoy.
    Unless it was removed, you didn't mention being able to super cancel El Gato from the rekkas into an air super. Is that still in?
    Still in, fixed.
    I didn't see a mention of Cerebella's over all damage nerf. Is that still included? Or do her changers make the nerf too strong?
    It wasn't 'overall' as in every single move. I listed the:
    - s.HP/HK, c.MP/MK/HP, j.MP/MK damage lowered by 25 per hit. j.HP damage lowered by 50 (1100 -> 1050).
    Did the ability to alpha counter off of a burst (you showed this in the offcast stream) make it in?
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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Quantum Theorist. Liquid Dubstep Energy Joined: Posts: 33,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looking forward to GGPO that actually works like GGPO and the faster Xbox load times. Might end up picking up the PS3 version eventually also.

    I didn't read the whole thing, but the offline slowdown issues with Xbox were able to be corrected at all?

    Tournament mode sounds like a healthy breakfast.
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    How much is this going to cost?
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  • Mike_ZMike_Z Defender of the Night Joined: Posts: 2,165
    How much is this going to cost?
    It's...free...
    Spectator mode pls
    Too much work for such a short time period, sorry.
    I didn't read the whole thing, but the offline slowdown issues with Xbox were able to be corrected at all?
    You mean where it randomly decides to run at like 5 FPS for a bit? Nope. :^( I couldn't get it to happen in any sort of controlled environment...
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    It's...free...

    Too much work for such a short time period, sorry.

    You mean where it randomly decides to run at like 5 FPS for a bit? Nope. :^( I couldn't get it to happen in any sort of controlled environment...

    Yeah I noticed it happening sometimes during co star combos/DHC's and what not where the Xbox version just churns during the supers. PS3 version is used for tourneys more often any way.
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    - All special moves correctly face opponent, no more backward gunshots after ground-teching past the opponent. (Oops.)
    - All Lv1 items will always OTG in the proper direction, towards Peacock. Accomplished by allowing the Jippo bottle to be flipped (oppiJ!). Any Lv2 and Lv3 items which always face the same direction may still knock them the wrong way as OTGs, so be careful.
    - Allow PP backdashing from preblock animation. Previously when the opponent was attacking at close range B,B would backdash but B+PP would result in a normal attack. Now both will correctly backdash.

    These undo so much frustration.
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    Will there be any DLC to put some of the lines that were cut from the voice actors back on the characters? I want to hear more Ms.Fortune puns :D
  • Mike_ZMike_Z Defender of the Night Joined: Posts: 2,165
    Yeah I noticed it happening sometimes during co star combos/DHC's and what not where the Xbox version just churns during the supers. PS3 version is used for tourneys more often any way.
    Oh, that. Nope, that's a hardware limitation, XBox ain't got no SPUs. Slowdown = nostalgia. :^)
    These undo so much frustration.
    Yeah, uh, whoops. You still have to do the special in the direction your character was facing during a ground tech, but it'll come out facing the right way now. (I checked, it's the same way in Capcom games.)
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    Read the whole thing! Looking forward to this soooooo badly (feels like a whole new game is coming out).
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    Looking good, hopefully I'll get my new Xbox shipped in time so I can play this on a fresh console and new hard drive.
  • Zopelthe543Zopelthe543 Joined: Posts: 1
    Man can't wait for these changes, hope the online multiplayer becomes more active when these changes start happening. Been feeling like a bit of a ghost town these days haha.

    With these character changes, I was really crossing my fingers to see cereballa's ultimate showstopper get nerfed. Maybe it did and I'm too newbish to understand the overall changes with her. Still learning this fighter gaming lingo haha. Just think for a Level 1 blockbuster its does too much damage but guess that's the baby in me when i face grappling characters lol. Can't say I'm really complaining, love how much I can learn and pick up from this game compared to other fighters. Gotta say with a tutorial that inviting, makes a newbie like me feel welcome to get into a more competitive field in fighting games.
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    The Select/Back button can be set to either save/load state, record/playback dummy actions, or do both at once. Easily test any setup with precise positioning every time, at the touch of a button! (Hold the button down to clear the saved state or actions.)
    Is there a quick 'n easy (or at least "one at all") way to clear savestates/actions without holding the button down? Or can you add holding some stupid button combination as additional option (LK+MP+HK or something)?

    My stick is dualmodded with a dualstrike, and part of that is a "Meta-Button" to .. blargh, long story short -- either my Start or my Select button activates on button-release, not on button-press. I already switched that MetaButton to Select from Start, since the former option caused me to be unable to pause (I cannot "release a button for multiple frames") - now with this I'd be unable(?) to clear savestates/actions which looks pretty crucial, so I'd probably go back to being unable to pause (setting the MetaButton back to Start), but that's pretty iffy still.

    I'm trying to contact the DS-manufacturers to get a firmware update which allows to turn off the metabutton function altogether, but that was requested a year ago and I'm not getting my hopes up that something is actually going to happen, so some way to clear savestates/actions (or pause) which doesn't require holding down Select (or Start) would be nifty.
    Command normals count as the same also, so s.F+HK = cr.HK = s.HK and j.B+LK = j.LK.
    This probably is supposed to go into the IPS section (It's currently below that, 3rd line of "Gameplay changes")?
    Valentine:
    - Lv3 cinematic is skippable by the Valentine player holding any Punch during the fade-out.
    Some guy here noted multiple times that this could possibly screw up poison damage (opponent is poisoned and at 15%, Val hits her lvl3, if she skips = Opponent is at 5% and poison doesn't damage since he is below 10%; if she doesn't skip = Opponent gets wittled down to 10% from the poison during the cinematic and then dies) -- is this (only Valentine can skip, not the opponent which was afaik different before) an attempt to fix it, or is there some added option which you just didn't note (eg "Poison damage will be accumulated and damage before the final hit, even when the cinematic is skipped")?
    Why.
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    I came here for patch notes... found a whole new SkullGirls. Epic.
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  • guitalex2007guitalex2007 Joined: Posts: 3,023
    Some guy here noted multiple times that this could possibly screw up poison damage (opponent is poisoned and at 15%, Val hits her lvl3, if she skips = Opponent is at 5% and poison doesn't damage since he is below 10%; if she doesn't skip = Opponent gets wittled down to 10% from the poison during the cinematic and then dies) -- is this (only Valentine can skip, not the opponent which was afaik different before) an attempt to fix it, or is there some added option which you just didn't note (eg "Poison damage will be accumulated and damage before the final hit, even when the cinematic is skipped")?
    Wouldn't the easy way to go around this is to simply NOT skip it for once? The skip only happens if the Val player holds a punch button when it fades out.

    So........ if Val indeed poisoned the opponent, then the Val player won't hold a button down. No need to complicate things :)

    If it were up to the OPPONENT and not Val, it would be a problem.
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  • Uncivilized ElkUncivilized Elk Joined: Posts: 713
    Got an erection reading that patch note

    Me too, but that's probably because I was also stroking my penis.
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    Now these are patch notes. Loving the visual assist change, fuck being mixed up by a jumping Valentine behind a Cerecopter assist.

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    - Allow PP backdashing from preblock animation. Previously when the opponent was attacking at close range B,B would backdash but B+PP would result in a normal attack. Now both will correctly backdash.
    OMG, is that what was going on
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