(11/20 PSN!) SG: Slightly Different Edition patch notes...

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  • not so saintnot so saint The reports of my death are GREATLY exaggerated. Joined: Posts: 1,948
    I am really excited by the pc release of this game (don´t have a console) can we hope to have the pc release soon? Maybe after the patch is released?

    I love the work that reverge labs is doing with this game, especially because they didn´t forget the pc players but we need some news of the release XD

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  • Mike_ZMike_Z Defender of the Night Joined: Posts: 2,165
    Can you at least tell us when it was submitted?
    Makes no difference if it doesn't pass the first time or they don't choose to look at it for a while, so it would be misinformation mostly...


    PC version is uh...in truth, I am not personally working on it at all beside having helped decide which things need to get done a long time ago, so I'm not going to be very good at informing you of the progress. Ask Autumn. >.< I will say that July was a temp date that some sites decided on, and I was surprised to see that.

    Explosions count as a hit toward damage scaling, they always have, just that now they are actually using the formula instead of always doing 450 dmg...so scale them like normal hits would be in your estimate, both for ratio and combo scaling. Each special move counts as separate, so Tear Shots are not Tear Tosses, but all Tear Shots are the 'same move' and all Tear Tosses are the 'same move'. Projectiles which hit count as their creation state hitting, and if you chain into that it follows the same rules as regular specials do so it won't trigger IPS.
    Examples are always easier, so let's assume that if you could combo anything and you're past Stage 2:
    Chain to Tear Shot, shot hits (uses up Tear Shot), explosion hits (was created from un-used-up state so is OK), another Tear Shot by itself = trigger IPS.
    Chain to Tear Shot, shot hits (uses up Tear Shot), explosion hits (OK), chain to another Tear Shot (chained into = OK), explosion hits (chained into = OK).
    Note that "chained into" means an attack in the chain hit, so you can't get around IPS by doing normal-kara-special without the normal hitting, since that counts as un-chained. One of the KOFs had an infinite prevention system that could be gotten around that way, so you could do like s.A~DP+A with Iori for an infinite juggle, heh.
    Tear Toss counts the same way, based on when the projectile hits. So in theory if you could chain to some tosses, then toss some more before the first ones explode and hit, the 2nd set of raw tosses is still OK.
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  • deice-deice- kimchi yokatta darou Joined: Posts: 596
    So basically, Tear Shot is safe from IPS as longs as you cancel it from a normal (that hit) ? I guess what I'm trying to ask is: How do you define "chaining" to a special move like Tear Shot or tear explosion?

    What about Tear Explosion, if you do eg. s.HP, s.HP xx tear shot, s.LP, st.MP xx tear explosion, s.HP, s.HP xx tear shot, how does the part around tear explosion behave, does this cause starting of a new chain after/before the explosion, or is that considered chaining MP into explosion into HP?
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  • RussaiRussai A Debby Downer Joined: Posts: 342
    PC port was promised for summer. Which means september in worst case scenario.
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    The game will be out when it's out. Arbitrarily assigning a Worst Case Scenarios does no one any good and just drives the forum mad complaining about delayed releases.
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  • Mike_ZMike_Z Defender of the Night Joined: Posts: 2,165
    Chains are defined solely by your character going into a non-attack state after hitting with something. So s.LP->s.MP(+explosion)->s.HP is one chain, whereas s.LP->s.MP(+explosion), s.LP is two. If you delay the s.HP in the first example until after the s.MP completely finishes, that's also two chains.
    Chaining into a special move is exactly that - did you chain (and hit) into the special, or not. The projectile that's left around afterward inherits the properties of the action that created it, it doesn't change your character's definition of chains at all. So if one part of the projectile is "safe" from IPS, all of it is.

    In fact, hitting with a projectile just makes the action that creates it count as "having hit"...so if you have a move that can both hit and creates a projectile like Peacock's s.HP, the projectile hitting will 'use up' the state as a chain starter even if you hit with the physical part next time. So if you were after Stage 2 and these examples had huge hitstun so they would combo, they would all trigger IPS:
    s.HP (hit only, say cancel into teleport), another s.HP (hit)
    s.HP (hit), another s.HP (projectile)
    s.HP (projectile), another s.HP (hit)
    s.HP (projectile), another s.HP (projectile)
    But chaining into the 2nd s.HP would make it not trigger IPS, in all cases. Hopefully that makes sense.
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  • not so saintnot so saint The reports of my death are GREATLY exaggerated. Joined: Posts: 1,948
    Makes no difference if it doesn't pass the first time or they don't choose to look at it for a while, so it would be misinformation mostly...
    k, I'll roll with it
    PC version is uh...in truth, I am not personally working on it at all beside having helped decide which things need to get done a long time ago, so I'm not going to be very good at informing you of the progress. Ask Autumn. >.< I will say that July was a temp date that some sites decided on, and I was surprised to see that.
    O_o
    But you do have saying in its future right? Because I'd like to run to you crying if something in this version will end up screwed so you can get that stuff sorted out, right?
    Right?..
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  • IbunskyIbunsky Joined: Posts: 3
    "Skullgirls Coming for Xbox and Playstation early 2012"

    The game will be out when it's out. Arbitrarily assigning a Worst Case Scenarios does no one any good and just drives the forum mad complaining about delayed releases.


    Yes you are right :P jajajjajajaj It´s better that they release the game when it´s stable to give a good experience to the players. It´s just that some pc players are anxius to play this awesome game, some news of the development would be nice, but anyway the wait will be worth it.

    Love you reverge labs for all the hard work ♥ you are doing the things right =)
  • Mike_ZMike_Z Defender of the Night Joined: Posts: 2,165
    o_O
    But you do have saying in its future right?
    I certainly hope so, and I'm sure I'll have a say before it gets released. But I am not working on it right now, which is the honest answer so I gave it.
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  • XthAtGAm3RGuYXXthAtGAm3RGuYX Just talkin on the phone. Joined: Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭✭✭
    out of curiosity, is there any chance that in any patches after the most recently upcoming one, you could include a screen size adjuster? I only ask because my tv is kind of fucked up and I normally get a bit of the sides lopped off of my picture. Now it normally is just barely noticeable but for some reason on SkullGirls, I can't see an entire half of the super meter on either side of the screen. For the record no my tv is not HD but it is a large flatscreen.
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  • Number 13Number 13 The Courage to Skullgirl Joined: Posts: 1,545
    out of curiosity, is there any chance that in any patches after the most recently upcoming one, you could include a screen size adjuster? I only ask because my tv is kind of fucked up and I normally get a bit of the sides lopped off of my picture. Now it normally is just barely noticeable but for some reason on SkullGirls, I can't see an entire half of the super meter on either side of the screen. For the record no my tv is not HD but it is a large flatscreen.
    I believe if you go to settings their is an option to adjust your HUD size so it can work for your television
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  • XthAtGAm3RGuYXXthAtGAm3RGuYX Just talkin on the phone. Joined: Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe if you go to settings their is an option to adjust your HUD size so it can work for your television
    Good lookin out. I checked the settings for 5 minutes and managed to miss it somehow. I'm fuckin retarded for that one
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  • not so saintnot so saint The reports of my death are GREATLY exaggerated. Joined: Posts: 1,948
    I certainly hope so, and I'm sure I'll have a say before it gets released. But I am not working on it right now, which is the honest answer so I gave it.
    I hope so too. Thank you for answer.
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  • 0chocolachao00chocolachao0 Your Drunk Roomate Joined: Posts: 160
    Does the approval process continue to process on weekends? I'm becoming extremely anxious to play post-patch SkullGirls either today or tomorrow! It's about 2 weeks since EVO.
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  • DravidianDravidian He who is CAT Joined: Posts: 702
    Does the approval process continue to process on weekends? I'm becoming extremely anxious to play post-patch SkullGirls either today or tomorrow! It's about 2 weeks since EVO.
    Dude....relax. It'll be here when it gets here
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  • TragedyTragedy 天 Sage 天 Joined: Posts: 394
    Yeah now that I've gotten a little hate in my heart for Marvel (I cannot fucking stand infinites) I've been fully ready to dive back into SG, but I'm waiting on the patch as well.

    Anywho, these things take time. It'll come eventually. Take a vacation... that's what I'm doing anyway lol.
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  • evilweevleevilweevle Xbox GT : MrFossy Joined: Posts: 3,887 ✭✭✭
    Yeah now that I've gotten a little hate in my heart for Marvel (I cannot fucking stand infinites) I've been fully ready to dive back into SG, but I'm waiting on the patch as well.

    Anywho, these things take time. It'll come eventually. Take a vacation... that's what I'm doing anyway lol.


    dude just play and enjoy the game! no one even knows when the patch is coming you may be waiting a while.
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  • Mike_ZMike_Z Defender of the Night Joined: Posts: 2,165
    As far as I know testing doesn't continue on weekends, or if it does that's included in the 2-week estimate that MS/Sony tell developers...but look, we're waiting for news, the same as you guys.

    Just assume it'll arrive by like, September, and that way you'll be happy when it gets here early! :^)
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  • Uncivilized ElkUncivilized Elk Joined: Posts: 713
    I would be amused if the patch is released prior to anyone being notified.
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  • TragedyTragedy 天 Sage 天 Joined: Posts: 394
    dude just play and enjoy the game! no one even knows when the patch is coming you may be waiting a while.

    And I don't have a problem with waiting. I'm fully aware of how MS operates and how much time these things potentially take. If it takes a month or two, so be it. It's not like I don't have a life to attend to. Regardless, the way I practice characters there's essentially no point in my bothering to train right now. It's entirely too much time and effort to have wasted/dulled by the magnitude of such a significant patch, hence, waiting is the logical decision.

    The "just for fun" players should definitely carry on though, I agree.
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  • Uncivilized ElkUncivilized Elk Joined: Posts: 713
    The only thing you would waste training on now is practicing combos that go would trigger the new IPS (and nom loops and stuff like that).

    Everything else will still carry over...
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  • TragedyTragedy 天 Sage 天 Joined: Posts: 394
    The only thing you would waste training on now is practicing combos that go would trigger the new IPS (and nom loops and stuff like that).

    Everything else will still carry over...

    I'm not really sure why there seems to be some issue with my deciding to wait in the first place... But anywho, if the new IPS changes were the only thing worth considering in the patch, I don't think the change list would be so incredibly exhaustive.

    I havn't even been keeping up with SG as much as I should have (nor have I read through all of the patch notes) and even I know of more changes worth noting than just the IPS changes >_>

    There's alot more that goes into training for some folks than just practicing combos, so while the IPS changes matter in that case, there are alot of other things being altered that all have the potential to change the way one would need to play. Not that the IPS changes alone wouldn't keep me from bothering to play at the moment anyway. Re-training and fine tuning muscle memory can be a bitch (if you havn't tried, try playing both Zero and Viper in Marvel and you'll see what I mean), and since I know a significant patch is coming, it's a more logical choice imo just not to bother at the moment.

    By all means though, I think anyone who wants to go ahead and bother playing anyway should play. I don't care nor am I going to try to stop you. But me, myself, and I simply choose not to.
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  • Uncivilized ElkUncivilized Elk Joined: Posts: 713
    I'm not really sure why there seems to be some issue with my deciding to wait in the first place

    I don't care. I wouldn't even be playing either except the patch feels really close, even if it isn't, and that gets me excited so I can't help but play. I took about a 3 week break when the patch was first announced myself, but now I'm getting hyped so it's hard to resist playing here and there.

    I'm just saying your reason is BS. Yes, there are tons of things to take note of beyond the IPS change. Like I said though, that does not change the fact that if you keep playing, (nearly) all your improvements WILL carry over into the next patch. And you can even change your playstyle now slightly if you want (for example hitting the enemy of an assist OTG right away instead of taking your time, or using revised combos that will work post-patch ).

    There's a few minor changes in hit properties but it's not somehow gonna fail to transfer. Just because Double's jHP has less hitstun doesn't mean that my ability to hit people with it properly isn't going to carry over into the patched game.

    Filia has new airball shenanigans, but that doesn't mean that I can't improve on her neutral game and whatnot now. All that stuff will still apply post patch, there will just be another neat trick to utilize.

    If you just claimed you wanted to wait for the patch because it seems exiting while the non-patched versions seems a little stale (in general or in comparison to other games you could be playing), I wouldn't even be making this post. However, you're trying to say it's logical to abstain from playing because you wouldn't be improving, and that's pure BS.
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  • TragedyTragedy 天 Sage 天 Joined: Posts: 394

    I'm just saying your reason is BS. Yes, there are tons of things to take note of beyond the IPS change. Like I said though, that does not change the fact that if you keep playing, (nearly) all your improvements WILL carry over into the next patch. And you can even change your playstyle now slightly if you want (for example hitting the enemy of an assist OTG right away instead of taking your time, or using revised combos that will work post-patch ).

    If you just claimed you wanted to wait for the patch because it seems exiting while the non-patched versions seems a little stale (in general or in comparison to other games you could be playing), I wouldn't even be making this post. However, you're trying to say it's logical to abstain from playing because you wouldn't be improving, and that's pure BS.

    !?

    ...Are you seriously going to sit there and presume you have the significance or insight to presume to know what, to me, is and isn't logical? ESPECIALLY enough to tell me that what I deem the logical decision FOR MYSELF, is BS?

    You've got to be kidding me you pompous dipshit.

    I can't recall a more shining example of someone on these forums being a royal twat for no reason in quite some time. If you don't care, then why in the hell are you being such a jackass about the matter?

    Excuse me for stooping to your idiocy and disregarding my own advice about stupidity and stupid people for a moment... but where precisely do you get off telling me my reason for my own choice as to what I do with my copy of my game is BS just because you disagree with my own personal motive for my own actions you pathetic sack of shit?

    Here's a quick life lesson before I proceed to ignore you son.

    People can choose to do whatever they want for whatever fucking reason, and so long as its not causing harm to anyone else, they're justified in doing so. Furthermore, it can be done without the say-so of some moronic prick who thinks he owns someone else's opinion about what they do with their own fucking time. Why? Well allow me to explain that for you... -because they fucking want to-, and they're able to regardless of whether or not your ignorant ass agrees with them.

    How in the hell do you even begin to presume to know whether I would or wouldn't improve by playing the unpatched version of the game? For that matter, where specifically was it stated that no improvement would be made? I'll save you the trouble of trying to comprehend by pointing out to you that nobody on this page, including me, has made such a statement.

    I don't know what sort of should-be-shot moron has planted whatever seed of stupidity in your head that makes you presume yourself to have the right, but please, PLEASE, never begin to even ATTEMPT to presume that something such as yourself could even begin to comprehend enough about me to put words in my mouth. I didn't TRY to say anything. I said specifically what I intended to, and again I repeat, nobody said anything about it being impossible to improve. Now, one thing I did say was that the IPS changes along would give me pause in wanting to play right now. Not that anyone requires your fucking approval to make a comment or have an opinion to begin with, but I'm sure even you could scrape up the intelligence required to realized that, with that being the case, any other changes beyond that specific one would make one all the more unlikely to want to play before the game is patched!

    I'm not sitting here telling you that your reason to continue to play is BS because I disagree with your choice, now am I you dick?

    Had I come here saying that everyone who plays the game is an idiot for doing so at this point, or had I tried to impose my own opinion on someone else in any way, you'd at least be somewhat justified in being such a profound asshole about the matter. But seeing as I imposed my thoughts on -no one-; here, or anywhere else regarding the matter, I must politely tell you to go to hell, and good day.

    In the interest of avoiding further thread clutter, if anyone else who "doesn't care" is offended or harmed by my opinion/reasoning about what I do with my own time, by all means, my inbox is open.
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    Why does having an opinion on your opinion make Elk an asshole? I mean seriously, he never even insulted you. >_>

    Also, I don't think logic works on a person-by-person basis. It is illogical to stop playing for the patch because the skills you'd acquire would still be useful post patch.
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  • guitalex2007guitalex2007 Joined: Posts: 3,023
    !?
    Pretty much sums up my feelings about your response. He didn't say anything to insult you. Dear God. I know it's hard to tell the tone of what someone is saying on the internet, but I think in your post it's quite obvious you overreacted.

    As soon as I found out the patch changes I started working on new stuff. The truth is that the game will move faster, but not fast enough to screw with people's timings. So by practicing new stuff I won't waste my time NOT practicing new stuff. Then when the patch comes out, I'm not spending hours figuring stuff out and I can spend more time kicking people's faces in.

    I'm pretty sure that's the only think Elk was saying.
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    I can't recall a more shining example of someone on these forums being a royal twat for no reason in quite some time.

    Oh the irony!
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  • ataconaziataconazi Joined: Posts: 579
    If youre godlike at the current version you're godlike at the patch. its the same game just much more polished feeling. They somehow managed to make it way better and very different but also somehow feel very similar. huge applause
    Also wtf at that guy lol
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  • TragedyTragedy 天 Sage 天 Joined: Posts: 394


    Why does having an opinion on your opinion make Elk an asshole? I mean seriously, he never even insulted you. >_>

    Also, I don't think logic works on a person-by-person basis. It is illogical to stop playing for the patch because the skills you'd acquire would still be useful post patch.

    Welp, inbox failed, so on we roll I suppose.

    Saying that "I think this is what you should do" is having an opinion. Saying "your reason is BS" is presumptuously assuming that he knows better about what I should do with MY time than I do. So yes, having the audacity to tell someone else that how they decide to use their own time is bullshit is quite pompous and insulting. Feel free to disagree. I won't jump down your throat about it like you folks are jumping down mine.

    And yes, logic does indeed work on a person by person basis. That's why, going to the same grocery store, two people might have two different ideas about what the "best" route to take there is. And I really can't comprehend what it is with you people and attempting to put words in my mouth. At no point did I say any additional "skills" acquired would be useless. That's the piss poor assumption that he made, I didn't agree to its accuracy.

    The only thing that I was essentially saying was that enough changes are being made that I personally don't want to bother with digging through the changelist to figure out what is and isn't being altered for the sake of knowing what I should and shouldn't bother doing or figuring out how to play against. I even then mentioned that the IPS changes alone would make me not want to bother at the moment.

    Why that's getting all of you people's panties in a wad I REALLY don't understand, but that's all I said. I didn't know that how I choose to use my time would have such a profound effect on the rest of you, but I do wish I had learned of this before. There was no little suggestion box of what I should do attached to the comment, nor did I come in here to tell everyone else to follow what I'm doing or belligerently tell them that disagreeing with my methods was BS.

    As for what that was, that was my lack of sleep automatically taking off the kiddie gloves when speaking to people who presume to know better than I do about what I do with my own time. Again I say, while I recognize I look like an ass with the rest of you folks at the moment, you people seriously need to learn where your boundaries are when talking to others.
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  • TragedyTragedy 天 Sage 天 Joined: Posts: 394
    Pretty much sums up my feelings about your response. He didn't say anything to insult you. Dear God. I know it's hard to tell the tone of what someone is saying on the internet, but I think in your post it's quite obvious you overreacted.

    As soon as I found out the patch changes I started working on new stuff. The truth is that the game will move faster, but not fast enough to screw with people's timings. So by practicing new stuff I won't waste my time NOT practicing new stuff. Then when the patch comes out, I'm not spending hours figuring stuff out and I can spend more time kicking people's faces in.

    I'm pretty sure that's the only think Elk was saying.

    Well fortunately, whether or not you feel like it was an insult has no baring on whether or not it actually was. And yes, I agree I overreacted. But then again, telling someone what is and isn't bullshit regarding THEIR OWN TIME, is also overreacting. Even if he didn't intend for it to be insulting, that's how it came off. Perhaps he didn't intend to say it in such a tactless manner, but again, that's how it came off.

    The other issue here would remain that, even if that's what he intended to say, I didn't ask for anyone's opinion as to what I ought to be doing with my own time in the first place. Granted, if he wanted to offer up an opinion anyway, it would have been fine had he stated it in a tactful manner as you did, at which point I would have just ignored it normally, but that's not the case.

    Hypothetically if I approach you in a conversation about something you're choosing to do with your own time, which statement is less likely going to generate less hostility

    1. "I think that instead of doing it that way, you should..."
    2. "That's BS, this is what I do and you should..."

    Regardless, keep in mind that prior to his statement at no point had I

    A) told anybody else that what they were doing is BS
    B) imposed on anyone else my own logic/thoughts/opinions about how waiting for the patch should be handled
    C) asserted that my way of handling things is teh best way ebarr
    D) questioned why anyone who is deciding to continue playing is doing so

    So given that I didn't do any of those things and didn't ask anyone a question to begin with, I wasn't expecting, looking forward to, nor did I want anyone to do those things towards me.

    Anywho, even if nobody else is interested in not continuing to clutter the thread, that's what I'm gonna move towards here seeing as there's no actual point to this conversation nor is it going to go anywhere. My inbox is still open to anyone who still, for whatever ridiculous reason, has a problem with what I do with my own time -.-
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  • view619view619 ざわ ざわ ざわ Joined: Posts: 1,686
    You know what would be awesome? If people kept the pointless drama posts out of the patch discussion thread. Think it's pointless to play now because the patch will render everything useless and nobody can tell you otherwise because they don't know you? K. Moving on.

    On topic, if Double hits her level 3 vs an assist, it continues until the end and there's no way to hit her out of it. Will this be addressed in the patch or was her level 3 meant to function like that vs assists? Also, sometimes a full screen Cerebella lvl 3 against Double/Parasoul has resulted in those characters dragging the screen instead of wall bouncing. Any information on that as well would be appreciated.
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  • guitalex2007guitalex2007 Joined: Posts: 3,023
    On topic, if Double hits her level 3 vs an assist, it continues until the end and there's no way to hit her out of it. Will this be addressed in the patch or was her level 3 meant to function like that vs assists? Also, sometimes a full screen Cerebella lvl 3 against Double/Parasoul has resulted in those characters dragging the screen instead of wall bouncing. Any information on that as well would be appreciated.
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  • ZidianeZidiane HyperCharging YOLO STAR Joined: Posts: 1,224
    Sometimes a full screen Cerebella lvl 3 against Double/Parasoul has resulted in those characters dragging the screen instead of wall bouncing.
    Does it? I know they don't wall bounce if you move forward before they hit the wall, but I didn't know they could just drag the screen if you stood still.
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    Just a reminder - this isn't GenDisc. Please don't make me close the thread. (^.^)
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    Welp, inbox failed, so on we roll I suppose.

    Saying that "I think this is what you should do" is having an opinion. Saying "your reason is BS" is presumptuously assuming that he knows better about what I should do with MY time than I do. So yes, having the audacity to tell someone else that how they decide to use their own time is bullshit is quite pompous and insulting. Feel free to disagree. I won't jump down your throat about it like you folks are jumping down mine.
    And yes, logic does indeed work on a person by person basis. That's why, going to the same grocery store, two people might have two different ideas about what the "best" route to take there is. And I really can't comprehend what it is with you people and attempting to put words in my mouth. At no point did I say any

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  • view619view619 ざわ ざわ ざわ Joined: Posts: 1,686
    Does it? I know they don't wall bounce if you move forward before they hit the wall, but I didn't know they could just drag the screen if you stood still.

    I think it's similar to the Egret Charge problem with Parasoul. There have also been instances where Double assist has gone through Cerebella lvl 3 and dragged the screen behind her while Parasoul went flying against the other wall, but I think that's just because current Hornet Bomber is rly good and breaking shit.
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  • ZidianeZidiane HyperCharging YOLO STAR Joined: Posts: 1,224
    I think it's similar to the Egret Charge problem with Parasoul. There have also been instances where Double assist has gone through Cerebella lvl 3 and dragged the screen behind her while Parasoul went flying against the other wall, but I think that's just because current Hornet Bomber is rly good and breaking shit.
    Wait, are you saying them not bouncing if you move forward is a glitch, or just those instances against Parasoul and Double? Because I will fucking flip out (in a good way) if her level three and Kanchou move don't negate the wall bounce anymore. It can be hard to combo after those bounces the way I want to when I can't walk forward until after the bounce.
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  • Mike_ZMike_Z Defender of the Night Joined: Posts: 2,165
    Wait, are you saying them not bouncing if you move forward is a glitch, or just those instances against Parasoul and Double? Because I will fucking flip out (in a good way) if her level three and Kanchou move don't negate the wall bounce anymore. It can be hard to combo after those bounces the way I want to when I can't walk forward until after the bounce.
    Not wall bouncing if you move the camera is a bug in general...but fixing these instances would mean changing how fast the moves knock you backward, which will change other combos...
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  • ZidianeZidiane HyperCharging YOLO STAR Joined: Posts: 1,224
    Sweet! I thought when I read about it before, it was only ever concerning Parasoul's Egret thing. I was kinda pouty, like "Oh! Look at that! Good for you. Good for you, Parasoul, good for you."
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  • Mike_ZMike_Z Defender of the Night Joined: Posts: 2,165
    That's what I said, it's only fixed for her, because hers was a different problem...and fixing it for Cerebella or Filia would involve drastically changing the properties of the moves.
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  • ZidianeZidiane HyperCharging YOLO STAR Joined: Posts: 1,224
    Oh... I was confused... still am... and now I'm sad...
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  • view619view619 ざわ ざわ ざわ Joined: Posts: 1,686
    So currently, if I full screen Diamond Deflector a projectile into Diamonds Are Forever and hold back, should that result in a wall bounce on hit every time? Thanks for the replies.
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  • ZidianeZidiane HyperCharging YOLO STAR Joined: Posts: 1,224
    So currently, if I full screen Diamond Deflector a projectile into Diamonds Are Forever and hold back, should that result in a wall bounce on hit every time? Thanks for the replies.
    Um... well, I'm not sure that every, if any, projectiles will be slow enough to hit with a projectile from full screen, because I've had plenty of people block that. Not only that, but I don't think the stun will be enough to combo into the level 3.
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  • view619view619 ざわ ざわ ざわ Joined: Posts: 1,686
    Um... well, I'm not sure that every, if any, projectiles will be slow enough to hit with a projectile from full screen, because I've had plenty of people block that. Not only that, but I don't think the stun will be enough to combo into the level 3.

    Deflection into Diamonds Are Forever links on hit if you cancel immediately after the deflection. How you actually hit that in a match is something that would need to be discussed in Cerebella thread.
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  • Mike_ZMike_Z Defender of the Night Joined: Posts: 2,165
    Landing a reflected projectile into a Lv3 from fullscreen should wallbounce regardless, since they're right next to the wall. The only way you should be able to make it not happen would be landing either Kanchou or Forever from up close and moving toward them after the hit so that the camera both zooms out and moves along with you...if you stay still, it should always happen.

    I'll look into what I can change to minimally impact combos but make wallbounce more likely, although I don't know if I can change anything at all, at this point.
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  • DeepEndDeepEnd Joined: Posts: 121
    has the dlc characters stats been balanced and tested with the patch or are some moves still based on prepatch SG ?
  • evilweevleevilweevle Xbox GT : MrFossy Joined: Posts: 3,887 ✭✭✭
    the only times ive ever had a wallbounce move not wall bounce is if i was moving forwards. either stay still or walk backwards if you like and you always get the wallbounce.
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    I don't think they are answering questions that have anything to do with dlc characters at this point.
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    Mmkay guys... keep it civil, and as a friendly reminder: if one of you starts flaming, and the other responds, then I infract you both.
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    Just a reminder - this isn't GenDisc. Please don't make me close the thread. (^.^)
    Please don't punish everyone just because one dude went off the handle. This is why we have infractions and bans.

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