(11/20 PSN!) SG: Slightly Different Edition patch notes...

xTheRadioStar · January 18

You know what, I hope this patch doesn't come out. I've become obsessed with the idea of a patch, and not the patch itself. Once it has come, my obsession will be unfulfilled and I will feel empty. My habitual "is it here yet?" visits to this thread will cease to have meaning, as, too, will my life.

/reversepsychology

djunuu · January 18

xTheRadioStar, post: 7913056, member: 79235 wrote:

You know what, I hope this patch doesn't come out. I've become obsessed with the idea of a patch, and not the patch itself. Once it has come, my obsession will be unfulfilled and I will feel empty. My habitual "is it here yet?" visits to this thread will cease to have meaning, as, too, will my life.

/reversepsychology

That was like me and Katawa Shoujo

RoZay706 · January 18

So has anybody found any new tech?

Y2Ryoko · January 19

RoZay706, post: 7913439, member: 80840 wrote:

So has anybody found any new tech?

I like using assists to make obnoxious, sometimes impractical combos. Like doing a long Painwheel combo into Gae Bolga L + Parasoul's Egret Charge, ghost ride the bike and continue the combo in the corner. I think Painwheel x Parasoul have the best gimmicks.

view619 · January 19

I have some burst baits for Peacock and reset ideas for Bella, plus a lot of PW stuff and assist synergy among the three. Waiting for life to come back to the Bella/Peacock forums before I bother to post it though, talking to yourself gets old after a while.

Dime_x · January 19

Y2Ryoko, post: 7913609, member: 2877 wrote:

I like using assists to make obnoxious, sometimes impractical combos. Like doing a long Painwheel combo into Gae Bolga L + Parasoul's Egret Charge, ghost ride the bike and continue the combo in the corner. I think Painwheel x Parasoul have the best gimmicks.

Nice concept

guitalex2007 · January 19

RoZay706, post: 7913439, member: 80840 wrote:

So has anybody found any new tech?

Double snap combos for everyone, burst baits with Filia and Peacock...

Pretty much done finding tech for Fortune lol I might find something else.

view619 · January 19

guitalex2007, post: 7915809, member: 28284 wrote:

Double snap combos for everyone, burst baits with Filia and Peacock...

Pretty much done finding tech for Fortune lol I might find something else.

Shotgun and fake teleport baits?

guitalex2007 · January 19

view619, post: 7915838, member: 14076 wrote:

Shotgun and fake teleport baits?

Actually real teleport baits. Remember, she can super cancel even during the invincible part of her teleport, so teleport, hold a little bit, Lenny DHC. The trick though is to do it late enough for Lenny to not be hit either by the burst, otherwise they're invincible.

Chapignon · January 20

Hey guys, I'm pretty new around here, but I've been following Skullgirls for a while. Anyways, I think i found an unblockable. And I don't mean a high/low unblockable. Basically, I was trying to find uses for Parasoul's air down+mk momentum glitch midscreen and it hit when the dummy was set to block all. I tested it on all the characters, and the only one I couldn't get it to work on was Cerebella. Could somebody else test this? I just did dash, forward jump, down+mk from a whole ton of places until it worked.

Cellsai · January 20

Chapignon, post: 7917872, member: 83388 wrote:

Hey guys, I'm pretty new around here, but I've been following Skullgirls for a while. Anyways, I think i found an unblockable. And I don't mean a high/low unblockable. Basically, I was trying to find uses for Parasoul's air down+mk momentum glitch midscreen and it hit when the dummy was set to block all. I tested it on all the characters, and the only one I couldn't get it to work on was Cerebella. Could somebody else test this? I just did dash, forward jump, down+mk from a whole ton of places until it worked.

Any chance of a video? Even a camcorder?

djunuu · January 20

Playing the patch at SCR definitely rekindled my love for Skullgirls. I want to play the patch now more than ever! Hopefully word gets back from Microsoft in two weeks and all the Xbox players can get some Based Broads on.

BrandX · January 20

djunuu, post: 7918989, member: 72764 wrote:

Playing the patch at SCR definitely rekindled my love for Skullgirls. I want to play the patch now more than ever! Hopefully word gets back from Microsoft in two weeks and all the Xbox players can get some Based Broads on.

I saw you on the stream! Great job on there :D

Even though In don't play on Xbox, I really with Microsoft hurries up so we can all enjoy the patch :(

Chapignon · January 20

Cellsai, post: 7918050, member: 81236 wrote:

Any chance of a video? Even a camcorder?

Sorry, I have no recording equipment. Not even an iPhone or anything of the like. But trust me, it isn't that hard to do if you just keep going at it. And it isn't high execution either because I did it and my execution is pretty bad.

Zidiane · January 20

Chapignon, post: 7919071, member: 83388 wrote:

Sorry, I have no recording equipment. Not even an iPhone or anything of the like. But trust me, it isn't that hard to do if you just keep going at it. And it isn't high execution either because I did it and my execution is pretty bad.

What exactly is it doing? Is it hitting on one side, then the other and the dummy refuses to block? Does it switch sides very quickly? Because if you cross the dummy up, there's a chance it won't block. What you are talking about, most likely, is not an unblockable, and would probably be blocked/blockable by a person.

Chapignon · January 20

Zidiane, post: 7919093, member: 22679 wrote:

What exactly is it doing? Is it hitting on one side, then the other and the dummy refuses to block? Does it switch sides very quickly? Because if you cross the dummy up, there's a chance it won't block. What you are talking about, most likely, is not an unblockable, and would probably be blocked/blockable by a person.

I know it isn't hitting on one side then the other, because it's only one hit. But the part about crossing the dummy up quickly makes sense. However, there were some times where I did cross up and it blocked normally. When I did this, it was almost exactly in the middle of their sprite. But either way, thanks for the information. If it isn't an unblockable, sorry for bringing it up.

view619 · January 20

Ambiguous cross-up is still good.

Fatface McGraw · January 22

I found that you can make pushblock attempts much safer by releasing back when pressing PP, then immediately holding back / down back after. Since you can block out of forward dashes but not backdashes, you'll be able to block if your pushblock attempt fails and turns into a dash.

On an unrelated note, I found that since hairball can't be pushblocked in the middle, your point can still be pushblocked. Boo.

guitalex2007 · January 22

Chapignon, post: 7917872, member: 83388 wrote:

Hey guys, I'm pretty new around here, but I've been following Skullgirls for a while. Anyways, I think i found an unblockable. And I don't mean a high/low unblockable. Basically, I was trying to find uses for Parasoul's air down+mk momentum glitch midscreen and it hit when the dummy was set to block all. I tested it on all the characters, and the only one I couldn't get it to work on was Cerebella. Could somebody else test this? I just did dash, forward jump, down+mk from a whole ton of places until it worked.

I know what's going on. It's not an unblockable, and Fortune has one too.

Here's what happens. The computer will start to block but you will cross over basically on the frame were it would come into contact, after preblock frames. Mind you, if the computer was holding forward to block, he would've blocked it. That's pretty much as ambiguous a crossup as it will get.

Blandaid · January 22

guitalex2007, post: 7926107, member: 28284 wrote:

I know what's going on. It's not an unblockable, and Fortune has one too.

Here's what happens. The computer will start to block but you will cross over basically on the frame were it would come into contact, after preblock frames. Mind you, if the computer was holding forward to block, he would've blocked it. That's pretty much as ambiguous a crossup as it will get.

You're talking about the launch>superjump>instant air dash>j.HK crossunder right?

guitalex2007 · January 22

Blandaid, post: 7926201, member: 69664 wrote:

You're talking about the launch>superjump>instant air dash>j.HK crossunder right?

Interesting, but I'm talking about a plain IAD j.LP.

Basically it happens with any normal that has a wide range directly above or under it and carries horizontal momentum. In both our cases it comes from air dashing, in his case from a dash jump.

Dravidian · February 7

Scrub Saibot, post: 7675365, member: 50248 wrote:

Or you could buy a powerline networking adapter.

http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/products/gaming-accessories/rf-guv1124.html

There's no excuse for playing wireless.

This is kinda late, but I'm looking into buying something like this. Does anyone have any experience with these? I'm no longer in my dorm and I'm not about to run a giant cable through the house (router is 2 1/2 floors up).

I've played online a few times at home and have had moderate success with closer opponents like guitalex, but further ones occasionally lag (horribly) due to either dropped packages or signal strength (my bars vary from 2 to 4). If something like that product gives me the consistency I want, I'll be very happy.

Buffalo · February 7

I tried one of those a few years back, not sure what brand, but my experiences weren't very good. I never really got a good connection and it often cut out at random. Wouldn't recommend.

2Chep · February 11

I have been using one for over a year now I think, get it. My online experience is so much better now.

view619 · February 13

So, gonna pull an Oil R here. Any news on the xbl patch yet, or is it still a hopeless wait? Wondering if I should just drop SG completely and move on.

Dude · February 13

Last I heard they had found a workaround for the patch size limitation and the ball is back in Microsoft's court. But why drop SG completely? Even if it takes a few more months for the patch to drop (and I really hope that's not the case) you can always pick it back up then. Or just wait for the PC port. We know that's coming after all.

view619 · February 13

Dude wrote: »

Last I heard they had found a workaround for the patch size limitation and the ball is back in Microsoft's court. But why drop SG completely? Even if it takes a few more months for the patch to drop (and I really hope that's not the case) you can always pick it back up then. Or just wait for the PC port. We know that's coming after all.

Waiting since July to now is enough for me, tbh. Would probably be easier to just forget it completely until xbl patch finally drops instead of checking back every other week to see if anything is new, but if this is basically the last fighter I have any real interest in and I'm gonna forget it for x months, I'm better off just dropping out and moving on.

Dravidian · February 13

That makes no sense to me, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion I suppose.

Motch420 · February 14

i honestly dont think i could just drop this game and forget it i have it for xbl and still constantly go back to it, its very rare u find a 2d animation fighting game that is as smooth and well made as skullgirls, on top of that the art style is pretty sexy, and thats another thing that keeps me coming back to it. aslong as i know the patch is coming, ill still play it. just bring on squigly and what ever else is up theirs sleeves and ill be happy

Mr. X · February 15

is the ps3 demo running patched Skullgirls?

Zidiane · February 15

Mr. X wrote: »

is the ps3 demo running patched Skullgirls?

Yes. Because they updated it, and changed the characters you can use before buying, so I'm pretty sure that means it's patched.

XthAtGAm3RGuYX · February 15

Motch420 said:

i honestly dont think i could just drop this game and forget it i have it for xbl and still constantly go back to it, its very rare u find a 2d animation fighting game that is as smooth and well made as skullgirls, on top of that the art style is pretty sexy, and thats another thing that keeps me coming back to it. aslong as i know the patch is coming, ill still play it. just bring on squigly and what ever else is up theirs sleeves and ill be happy

IMO whenever a patch is coming I stop playing until it comes out. That way I can partially forget my old stuff, and my mind will be open to some of the newer stuff my characters can do. I did the same with SFxTK and I wasn't as annoyed with how new Juri works on 2013.

Also i'm doing this so I can work on Filia and Squigly at the same time.

SG slightly different edition! Coming to an xbox near you! Look out for it in 2014............maybe.....possibly, don't count on it.

Jet Set Dizzy · February 16

Because the game has no hitstun decay you can account for most of the new stuff in the old version and still get used to it. If you just stopped playing for 4 months or whatever your putting yourself way behind the rest of the community.

xTheRadioStar · February 17

xTheRadioStar said:

You know what, I hope this patch doesn't come out. I've become obsessed with the idea of a patch, and not the patch itself. Once it has come, my obsession will be unfulfilled and I will feel empty. My habitual "is it here yet?" visits to this thread will cease to have meaning, as, too, will my life.

/reversepsychology

I'm still patiently waiting. I'm going to buy a new stick with my tax refund this year, and will most likely only use it on skullgirls. It's the only fighting game I have that seems worth investing time and money in. I'm in love with every character (fighting style), the engine, the art, everything... I've been casually playing fighters since SSF2 on my uncle's SNES when I was a kid, and no game save this one has captured me.

Dravidian · February 17

SG isn't the olny fighter I find worthy of my time, but It's my favorite fighter this gen hands down.

view619 · February 17

The wait wouldn't be so bad if GG online wasn't dead too. I guess GGPO is always an option.

Mike_Z · February 18

XthAtGAm3RGuYX said:
SG slightly different edition! Coming to an xbox near you! Look out for it in 2014............maybe.....possibly, don't count on it.

If it isn't out on XBox by May I'm leaking it myself. >.< I remember joking in October that it was going to come out in Japan before it came out on XBox and now...profound sadness...

Kawalorn · February 18

Respect. I hope it wouldn't end up in a serious lawsuit tough. That's kinda the last thing you need. :P

Number 13 · February 18

Don't Jinx it... I recall hearing about the patch launching before September as a joke too >.<

xTheRadioStar · February 18

Mike_Z said:

XthAtGAm3RGuYX said:
SG slightly different edition! Coming to an xbox near you! Look out for it in 2014............maybe.....possibly, don't count on it.

If it isn't out on XBox by May I'm leaking it myself. >.< I remember joking in October that it was going to come out in Japan before it came out on XBox and now...profound sadness...

Any thing else you can legally tell us about the process? I know in my heart you guys are doing everything possible, but sometimes I need to hear it straight from the horse's mouth.

Mr. X · February 18

Mike is gonna get kidnapped by Bill Gates's secret ninjas.

xTheRadioStar · February 19

Mr. X said:

Mike is gonna get kidnapped by Bill Gates's secret ninjas.

That gives me an idea! Bill Gates will be on UT campus soon... I should kidnap him and force the patch through!

Dravidian · February 20

xTheRadioStar said:

Mr. X said:

Mike is gonna get kidnapped by Bill Gates's secret ninjas.

That gives me an idea! Bill Gates will be on UT campus soon... I should kidnap him and force the patch through!

I can only like that comment. I would agree with it, but in the off chance that you actually try and fail, I can always say that I never agreed with your actions should uncle sam find me.
lol

ukyo_rulz · February 20

Mike_Z wrote: »

If it isn't out on XBox by May I'm leaking it myself. >.< I remember joking in October that it was going to come out in Japan before it came out on XBox and now...profound sadness...

Slightly related question: When the X-Box patch finally drops, how soon after would we be able to hand over our cash for DLC colors on PSN?

XthAtGAm3RGuYX · February 20

Mike_Z said:

XthAtGAm3RGuYX said:
SG slightly different edition! Coming to an xbox near you! Look out for it in 2014............maybe.....possibly, don't count on it.

If it isn't out on XBox by May I'm leaking it myself. >.< I remember joking in October that it was going to come out in Japan before it came out on XBox and now...profound sadness...

I just seen that I was replied to. I love the new notification system. But anyway how would you even go about leaking the patch personally? I didn't even know that could be done. Or would explaining it where everyone can see give Microsoft ninjas a chance to foil your plans?

j13901 · February 20

Skullgirls has been nominated on the PSN Gamer's Choice Awards for Best Competitive multiplayer. Everybody go vote! and if you've got two psn accounts, vote twice!

Dravidian · February 20

j13901 said:

Skullgirls has been nominated on the PSN Gamer's Choice Awards for Best Competitive multiplayer. Everybody go vote! and if you've got two psn accounts, vote twice!

I have three....my past fails are really coming in handy lol!

Blandaid · February 20

I guess I'm a slowpoke here, but the new patch removed some pretty grimy throw resets. I think it has to do with the new input leniency.

It used to be that whiffing a move in front of your opponent as they come out of hitstun or blockstun would immediately cause them to go into preblock animations. It was significant because it grounded the opponent even if they were attempting to chicken block. The opponent could still jump by changing the jump direction or by just tapping up-back, but braindead chicken blocking could not get you off the ground. This meant that any throw assist could be used to craft a reset that the opponent had to either tech(only against regular throws), reversal out of, or jump on reaction.

For example, a Cerebella on point could do COMBO xx Call Assist xx HP Lock n' Load. LnL causes preblock during startup, so it keeps the opponent grounded while an assist scoops em up.

Anyway, the patch allows chicken blockers to get off the ground immediately after coming out of hit/blockstun. I'm assuming it has to do with the new input leniency window basically buffering the up-back input. On the bright side, this means chicken blockers immediately enter the hit-vulnerable jump animation after exiting hitstun (i.e they will always be hit by frametraps).

EDIT: NEVERMIND, I'm dumb and bad with training mode. You can still force dudes holding up-back to stay grounded, nothing has changed. Chicken blocking in front of a move as you come out of hitstun keeps you grounded. However, chicken blocking out of blockstun makes you jump immediately and leaves you vulnerable to frametraps.

view619 · February 21

^ Opponent can just hold up and avoid pre-block animation completely.

Blandaid · February 21

view619 said:

^ Opponent can just hold up and avoid pre-block animation completely.

uhh yes and no.

Yes, by holding up instead of upback you may avoid getting grabbed. But you may not necessarily avoid getting reset. Any whiffed move can force the opponent into preblock so long as its sufficiently close. This includes attacks that control vertical space and will tag people who neutral or forward jump.

For example, say if Fortune does a combo, calls grab assist, and whiffs HK fiber upper. Holding up or up-forward will have you hop straight into the attack. Every character can do likewise just by calling assist and doing j.HP/j.HK/whatever, so just neutral jumping isn't enough.

Heck you don't even need a move that'll whiff. Just do ground chain > call assist > slight pause > launcher. Chicken blockers go into preblock due to the launcher's start up and get snatched by assist; neutral jumps dodge the grab and get tagged by launcher. The timing will be a bit tricky since the assist needs to become active before the attack, but its a brand of resets that covers several options.

(11/20 PSN!) SG: Slightly Different Edition patch notes...

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