What it will take to put Skullgirls on the main stage at EVO next year

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  • evilweevleevilweevle Xbox GT : MrFossy Joined: Posts: 4,275
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  • SteelyHawkeSteelyHawke Get down to business Joined: Posts: 1,146
    Sadly I don't see it being on the main stage anytime soon. The players and skill level simply isn't there. My buddy Dino and I are the only people in Guadalajara who know how to play the game. We honestly haven't put much time into it at all though and only play against each other every now and then. We don't consider ourselves to be very good at the game but we destroy everybody whenever we play online... not because we're good but because everybody online is horrible.

    While I was stuck back here in GDL, Dino had the opportunity to go to EVO.... he missed the Skullgirls tournament signups as he was cheering for our boy Frutsy in Marvel but he passed by later on and apparently completely bodied most of the Skullgirls top 16 in casuals with the exception of one Painwheel player who took him out convincingly. This is in a game he doesn't even play. He shouldn't be doing anywhere near that well in a game he doesn't practice... but that's the skill level we're currently dealing with when it comes to Skullgirls right now. Sad but true...
    It's easier for anyone to play and win on casuals at their own pace. It's a whole other game when money and tournament placement is on the line. Then the real bragging rights are opened up.

    It's a regular thing to see a promising young man get absolutely wrecked once he is in the ring with the big boys(Fanatiq vs Rayray for example) being streamed in front of thousands. Maybe you should refrain from judging the scene so harshly until you and your friend whoop America's ass at a major.
  • alonzoramonalonzoramon Joined: Posts: 32
    i find that teaching is the way to grow a good community. people where im at wanna learn, not just get beat into the ground. so i host casuals next to ssf4ae and tekken all the time. i was pretty proud of myself when i started going to local tournaments and i didnt have to bring a set up for it.

    it wont be long till they have regular tournaments for the game and im no longer the best player.

    everyone here needs to be teaching and learning at the same time. there is so many untapped styles in this game and thats why i find it amazing. every characters has this "freestyle" aspect that i love. i can kinda compare it to marvel, that community is growing more because there is still so many diffrent set ups you can use and players are still finding where they fit in. in my community they are doing the same thing. there are 2 filia players here that are getting better everyday but they play her so differently you would think its another character.

    each one teach one :-))
    look for the ayzo
  • DRaGZ141DRaGZ141 Joined: Posts: 385
    The "freestyle" aspect of this game is what I like as well. When I play Capcom fighters, I tend to gravitate towards characters like Akuma or Ibuki, those who have tons of options, even if they're not the best. It allows you to be flexible and mix up your strategies on the fly. But EVERY character in SG is like this, it's pretty fantastic.
  • CorenCoren Sponsored By CrossXoveR Joined: Posts: 395
    If you want to see this game on the main stage at EVO you're going to have to start taking cues from MK and get the developers on board. The sole reason that MK is big game at MLG and EVO is because the developers are willing to drop money to make sure that the game is in events.

    Of course the only reason they can do this is because the players continue to show up en masse to the events the developers pay for, and this is a lot easier for WB with their millions than Reverge with their $10 and workers who still haven't been payed for contributing years of their lives to the project.

    Grassroots simply isn't enough anymore, tournaments (especially EVO) are simply too big. You need to get the dev in there and you need to make sure they and the TO see a good return on their investment.

    TL;DR: Get Dev support, toss money around, keep numbers from dropping.
    <deadfrog> Fun exercise: if you make a list of every single fighting game you would feel ashamed to play in front of your dad, you'll notice that Coren plays all of those games. Which is commendable.
    <deadfrog> I pulled up the stream archive from bonus stage and having face cams is AWESOME. You look like Thouther, btw.
  • Uncivilized ElkUncivilized Elk Joined: Posts: 713
    Basically, Reverge needs to MAKE IT RAIN to get their game into EVO, and I don't see that happening.
    PSN: Uncivilized_Elk
  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    If you want to see this game on the main stage at EVO you're going to have to start taking cues from MK and get the developers on board. The sole reason that MK is big game at MLG and EVO is because the developers are willing to drop money to make sure that the game is in events.

    Of course the only reason they can do this is because the players continue to show up en masse to the events the developers pay for, and this is a lot easier for WB with their millions than Reverge with their $10 and workers who still haven't been payed for contributing years of their lives to the project.

    Grassroots simply isn't enough anymore, tournaments (especially EVO) are simply too big. You need to get the dev in there and you need to make sure they and the TO see a good return on their investment.

    TL;DR: Get Dev support, toss money around, keep numbers from dropping.

    sup dicknose.

    true say. i think its a big things that the company needs to push hard on this as well to get the results everyone is after, and so far they've been doing
    a pretty good job of it. if everyone keeps up the momentum, it should turn out at pretty well
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  • CorenCoren Sponsored By CrossXoveR Joined: Posts: 395
    sup dicknose.

    <3 u 2
    <deadfrog> Fun exercise: if you make a list of every single fighting game you would feel ashamed to play in front of your dad, you'll notice that Coren plays all of those games. Which is commendable.
    <deadfrog> I pulled up the stream archive from bonus stage and having face cams is AWESOME. You look like Thouther, btw.
  • GHNekoGHNeko SYMPTONS INCLUDE RESETS, TICK THROWS & INPUT LAG Joined: Posts: 622
    Reverge has been doing a good job, but Konami needs to step it up too me thinks.
  • Uncivilized ElkUncivilized Elk Joined: Posts: 713
    Konami doesn't do the "step up".
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  • Master_ChibiMaster_Chibi .: Dynamites! :. Joined: Posts: 15,066 mod
    Coren you know the developers have shelled out thousands of dollars and several $200-$400 sticks as tournament prizes throughout the year right?
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  • WrathWrath Modder and BlazBlue Fan Joined: Posts: 211
    Coren you know the developers have shelled out thousands of dollars and several $200-$400 sticks as tournament prizes throughout the year right?
    Yeah, they got tourney winners custom Skullgirl themed sticks. Probably $400-$500 considering they were already wired.
    http://www.foehammershop.com/index.php/using-joomla/extensions/components/content-component/article-categories/101-category-title-here
    and pics http://www.foehammershop.com/index.php/gallery
    thank you so much dood. I feel alot more prepared now
    -Mr.Nannie
    ^^ that's a prinny in disguise O.O
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  • alonzoramonalonzoramon Joined: Posts: 32
    Yeah, they got tourney winners custom Skullgirl themed sticks. Probably $400-$500 considering they were already wired.
    http://www.foehammershop.com/index.php/using-joomla/extensions/components/content-component/article-categories/101-category-title-here
    and pics http://www.foehammershop.com/index.php/gallery

    thats dope, where were or are the tournaments?
    look for the ayzo
  • dsurgeon215dsurgeon215 Joined: Posts: 21
    Dude...it was a side tournament at Evo this year.
  • WrathWrath Modder and BlazBlue Fan Joined: Posts: 211
    Dude...it was a side tournament at Evo this year.
    Actually, if you look closely, several of them are for different tourneys than EVO. Most of them have it laser etched on the side which tourney they were made for.
    thank you so much dood. I feel alot more prepared now
    -Mr.Nannie
    ^^ that's a prinny in disguise O.O
    PSN: xXFierywrathXx
  • AabraAabra Joined: Posts: 130
    No, that's not the current skill level of anything except the people who went to Evolution.

    Holy fuck the game is four months old and we're already talking about 'current skill level'?

    EVERYONE SUCKS IS FINE FOR A FOUR MONTH OLD GAME.

    The two of you need to step your shit up and prove yourself past casuals during a tournament neither of you entered.

    I could care less if anybody believes me regarding what happened at EVO but it's the truth. They simply couldn't handle the Parasoul+Cerebella BS. (Block String with Parasoul, call assist... opponent gets thrown by either the assist on the ground or Paraoul in the air who is going for the air grab. Both of which lead into a full combo. When you attack Parasoul with anything it's alpha countered into Cerebella for another full combo. It's evil stuff and they didn't know how to handle it. It was as simple as that.)

    Proving ourselves past casuals isn't possible unfortunately as there are Zero Skullgirls tournaments being run in Mexico. We tried as hard as we could to organize them - heck we even made a video promoting the game down here in a vain attempt to get more people to play. I don't see any of you trying to run Skullgirls tournaments or making promotional videos for your local communities. Our UMVC3, SF4, KoF and heck even our Random Hyperspin Game tournaments have more people coming out to them.

    I'm not trying to prove we're the best. I'm trying to grow the community. I don't need to prove that Dino and I are the best 2 Skullgirls players in Guadalajara. We KNOW we're the best because we're the only ones playing the damn thing. During our last major tournament down here in April (soon after SG release) with over 100 players I had Skullgirls running on one of the systems trying to promote the game. Only one other person from Mexico City knew how to play the game. I'm fairly certain that I've done more to try and grow the Skullgirls community than most of the people on this forum put together. I can only do so much though and I need to start reverting my attention back to the games that people want to play.

    I leave you with this.

  • alonzoramonalonzoramon Joined: Posts: 32
    my community is good.. but thats because im there for them...and im pretty fun :-)

    maybe your not fun enough Abrha :-/
    look for the ayzo
  • AabraAabra Joined: Posts: 130
    my community is good.. but thats because im there for them...and im pretty fun :)

    maybe your not fun enough Abrha :-/

    25+ hardcore fighting game enthusiasts that show up to the tournaments Dino and I run every Saturday. We're the definition of fun. :)

    If you want to see fun you should check out our tournament of 1000 Facebook likes that we ran last week. Random game every time. It was a blast.

    http://www.twitch.tv/versusmx/b/326584958
    http://www.twitch.tv/versusmx/b/326597016
    http://www.twitch.tv/versusmx/b/326613979
  • Uncivilized ElkUncivilized Elk Joined: Posts: 713

    I leave you with this.


    Can you tell me where to go in that video to see good gameplay?

    I clicked at random and watched 5 minutes around the 20 minute mark, and that was awful. I think I could beat you guys and I consider myself barely competent.

    EDIT: Oh, it's back from May. Well, that may explain some stuff, but probably shouldn't be what you leave us with... not to mention that looks very mediocre even for May 25th.
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  • AabraAabra Joined: Posts: 130
    Can you tell me where to go in that video to see good gameplay?

    I clicked at random and watched 5 minutes around the 20 minute mark, and that was awful. I think I could beat you guys and I consider myself barely competent.

    EDIT: Oh, it's back from May. Well, that may explain some stuff, but probably shouldn't be what you leave us with... not to mention that looks very mediocre even for May 25th.

    First of all - of course it's not godlike. That was kind of the point all along. We SHOULDN'T be doing as well as we are. With regards to us being "awful" you're probably only looking at the combo length. Neither of us have put the time in to learn any infinites etc. I play keep away and Dino goes for reset after reset.

    I just picked a match at random as well but from the match starting at 12:45

    13:07 - Dino calls his assist but I jump knowing full well he was going to call it avoiding Cerebella's grab.... but getting caught with Parasoul's air grab. Dino then proceeds to drop the combo but it doesn't matter as I'm stuck in the corner and it's EXTREMELY difficult for Peacock to escape from the setup while in the corner. I only survive because Dino drops his second combo and gives me a bit of space - lack of practice.

    13:22 - Desperate I try to build some space using my super.... like a chump and Dino punishes me for it. If he had been a pixel closer the launcher would have landed and I would have received the full combo.

    13:35 - I jab with Double and it is blocked..... and I proceed to eat a full combo punish because he blocked my jab!

    14:25 - Peacock finally gets some distance after a combo and I'm able to show off some of Peacock's Keep away. I manage to keep him away for a good 25 seconds. Almost everybody I fight online is kept away for the entire fight but Dino has tons of experience vs it and knows how to get around it. The entire match Dino is right in my face and doesn't let up because he knows how hard it is to get in once I'm given any room at all. Most people I fight online let me back up right at the start of the fight and go to town on them. Apparently Double's assist is "crazy overpowered" and needs to be nerfed... but against somebody who knows what they're doing it really isn't that big of a deal. His Cerebella command grab assist causes at least as much havoc if not more.

    15:02 - Nothing particularly special.... but auto-correct assist ftw! lol

    15:15 - I bait Dino with a "random" super knowing he would cancel into his own one to punish me. I DHC into Double however to punish him instead.


    Long combos don't win matches. There's a lot of smart stuff going on in these matches. Don't get me wrong however... I don't claim to be good at this game and neither does Dino. We know we're garbage at this game. We don't practice it..... but that's the whole point. Why are we better than 90% of the people out there when we shouldn't be?
  • Uncivilized ElkUncivilized Elk Joined: Posts: 713
    With regards to us being "awful" you're probably only looking at the combo length.
    No, I'm looking at the overall gameplay. The fact that you think predicting when a person you play against a whole lot will call an assist and dodging it is somehow an example of a good moment of gameplay just further demonstrates this.
    Why are we better than 90% of the people out there when we shouldn't be?

    Judging from the random people I've played in unranked online, you're not even better than 50% of the online population...

    You also made a comment how he could beat most of the top 16 from EVO in casuals... and with the video you left all I can respond with to that is "lolwut?"
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  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    you guys aren't terrible...but saying your better then 90% of the people out there is a stretch...
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  • view619view619 ざわ ざわ ざわ Joined: Posts: 1,796
    Also, learning how to tech air grabs and pressuring while leaning towards more iad attacks blows up that "amazing" Parasoul/Cerebella combination. You haven't even seen 90% of the SG community, let alone played enough to say you're in top 10% (and don't pull the xbl/psn argument; it doesn't work). Get your head out of your ass, please.
    "You can lead a scrub to techniques, but you can't make him think."
  • AabraAabra Joined: Posts: 130
    lol such rage. Believe what you will I could care less. All I know is we win at least 90% of our online matches and Dino blew people up at EVO.... and yes we do suck which is kind of the problem. Regardless if Capcom announces Darkstalkers at SBO this weekend (which I sincerely hope they do) then that will be the final nail in Skullgirl's coffin as far as a main spot at EVO is concerned.
  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    All I know is we win at least 90% of our online matches .

    This.

    Why are we better than 90% of the people out there
    is a LOT different from this.

    And honestly there were a LOT of not great people playing at evo. How does he know which ones were top 16? did he ask them? I could see him maybe beating a few of them, but definitely none within top 8.
    Regardless if Capcom announces Darkstalkers at SBO this weekend (which I sincerely hope they do) then that will be the final nail in Skullgirl's coffin as far as a main spot at EVO is concerned.

    I think this is a fair sentiment though. It would definitely take SFXT's place.
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  • Master_ChibiMaster_Chibi .: Dynamites! :. Joined: Posts: 15,066 mod
    I could care less if anybody believes me regarding what happened at EVO but it's the truth. They simply couldn't handle the Parasoul+Cerebella BS. (Block String with Parasoul, call assist... opponent gets thrown by either the assist on the ground or Paraoul in the air who is going for the air grab. Both of which lead into a full combo. When you attack Parasoul with anything it's alpha countered into Cerebella for another full combo. It's evil stuff and they didn't know how to handle it. It was as simple as that.)

    Wow, you mean a fledgling community that's barely fourth months old doesn't know how to deal X+Y?

    Get over yourself, seriously. No one in this community right now is good, regardless of what tournaments they've won. They're getting better but no one has the right to say they're good, not yet anyway. The problem is that anyone being good has absolutely NOTHING to do with getting this game into Evolution, or furthering its growth.
    Proving ourselves past casuals isn't possible unfortunately as there are Zero Skullgirls tournaments being run in Mexico. We tried as hard as we could to organize them - heck we even made a video promoting the game down here in a vain attempt to get more people to play. I don't see any of you trying to run Skullgirls tournaments or making promotional videos for your local communities.

    http://canopykingdom.wordpress.com/


    Also I'm not going to link them but fourth months worth of Team St1ckbug tournaments + 1 1/2 months of Break tournaments, + 2 months of my bringing the newest build to whatever tournament I can get to. I'm sure I can go into greater detail but I'm not doing it for epeen rights.
    I'm not trying to prove we're the best. I'm trying to grow the community. I don't need to prove that Dino and I are the best 2 Skullgirls players in Guadalajara. We KNOW we're the best because we're the only ones playing the damn thing. During our last major tournament down here in April (soon after SG release) with over 100 players I had Skullgirls running on one of the systems trying to promote the game. Only one other person from Mexico City knew how to play the game. I'm fairly certain that I've done more to try and grow the Skullgirls community than most of the people on this forum put together. I can only do so much though and I need to start reverting my attention back to the games that people want to play.

    Good for you spanky.

    If you want to give up now go ahead and do that. Run off to some other game chock full of stream monters, hang Skullgirls up for good.

    Just don't come into a thread about helping to grow the community and then tout how you've done more than us like it's something we should reward you for, all while calling that very same community free because you think you're hot shit.

    Congrats?
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  • evilweevleevilweevle Xbox GT : MrFossy Joined: Posts: 4,275
    dude what the fuck you dont even know what you are talking about in those videos.

    you say that at 13.35 that you are punished for a jab by double, as proof of your friends godlike ability. HE can punish JABS! moves that have probs only about 2 frames advantage! oh yea and also the fact that that move is not a fucking jab, you did a raw tag and got punished FFS. this proves that you dont really have a clue what you are talking about at all if you cant tell a jab from a raw tag. seriously get real.

    and fucking LOL at this one

    "Most people I fight online let me back up right at the start of the fight and go to town on them. Almost everybody I fight online is kept away for the entire fight but Dino has tons of experience vs it and knows how to get around it. The entire match Dino is right in my face and doesn't let up because he knows how hard it is to get in once I'm given any room at all. "

    anybody who knows how to play this game does not walk away from peacock at the start of a match. you sure you played top 16 and not randoms at EVO? they need to find which station you were playing on and save those damn replays let me tell you!!
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  • Scrub SaibotScrub Saibot IT'S ME AUSTIN! Joined: Posts: 1,582
    Oh man... this community.

    At this point I honestly don't think it even deserves to survive.
    YOU ALL BOUGHT IT!
    EVEN MY FAMILY, EVEN MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY BOUGHT IT!
  • AabraAabra Joined: Posts: 130
    dude what the fuck you dont even know what you are talking about in those videos.

    you say that at 13.35 that you are punished for a jab by double, as proof of your friends godlike ability. HE can punish JABS! moves that have probs only about 2 frames advantage! oh yea and also the fact that that move is not a fucking jab, you did a raw tag and got punished FFS. this proves that you dont really have a clue what you are talking about at all if you cant tell a jab from a raw tag. seriously get real.


    ROFL ummm look at the video.. first of all I did a raw tag earlier in the video because Peacock had no health left at all and was going to get chipped out - I had no choice. I even state that while playing and tell him to punish me for it.

    "Castigame... a fuerzas tenia que hacerlo"

    AFTER the raw tag punish is when Dino counters my jab.

    When I jabbed him he did an alpha counter into Cerebella which is what started the combo. Clearly you are the one who didn't even understand what you were watching. lol I didn't think I needed to spell out exactly what he did for you as it was fairly obvious. The actual "jab" that I'm talking about is at 13:38 - I figured you'd watch for more than 3 seconds. haha And no this community doesn't deserve to survive.
  • evilweevleevilweevle Xbox GT : MrFossy Joined: Posts: 4,275
    ^^ fair enough i apologise for that.

    the rest of it i stand by though.

    and when you start stating that everyone at evo was free and then post a shitty video to back it up, expect to get a bit of stick for it.
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  • Age_of_FoolsAge_of_Fools Joined: Posts: 706
    No idea why people are getting uppity about someone claiming to win some casuals or online games. Aabra clearly makes/made an effort to grow the game's scene, so good job on that.
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    Cerebella mixup video
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  • view619view619 ざわ ざわ ざわ Joined: Posts: 1,796
    Yes dude, you're amazing, we get it. Go play a real game now, please. Let this community "die". =/
    Oh man... this community.

    At this point I honestly don't think it even deserves to survive.

    Why not? Random guy posting up shit in every SRK forum thread should be the norm by now.
    "You can lead a scrub to techniques, but you can't make him think."
  • Master_ChibiMaster_Chibi .: Dynamites! :. Joined: Posts: 15,066 mod
    I don't care that he's talking shit.

    I care that he's talking shit in this thread.
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  • Scrub SaibotScrub Saibot IT'S ME AUSTIN! Joined: Posts: 1,582
    Because yet another thread about discussing how to accomplish progress is now full of monkeys throwing poo at each other.

    That and the fact that everyone knows the real answer to the question at hand, but nobody want to admit it. If you want the game to make it to EVO, people have to go to tournaments.
    YOU ALL BOUGHT IT!
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  • AabraAabra Joined: Posts: 130
    ^^ fair enough i apologise for that.

    the rest of it i stand by though.

    and when you start stating that everyone at evo was free and then post a shitty video to back it up, expect to get a bit of stick for it.

    The video was proof of my efforts to grow the community - not backup how good I am. Whatever though - I'm done with this game. Don't expect any SG tournaments to be organized by us south of the border.
  • DRaGZ141DRaGZ141 Joined: Posts: 385
    Look, the overall point is:

    1. We appreciate you trying out the game and attempting to grow the community.
    2. We don't appreciate cocky attitudes, especially when no one has actually really proven themselves.

    That's all. Humility goes a long way.
  • view619view619 ざわ ざわ ざわ Joined: Posts: 1,796
    Because yet another thread about discussing how to accomplish progress is now full of monkeys throwing poo at each other.

    That and the fact that everyone knows the real answer to the question at hand, but nobody want to admit it. If you want the game to make it to EVO, people have to go to tournaments.

    Fair enough.
    The video was proof of my efforts to grow the community - not backup how good I am. Whatever though - I'm done with this game. Don't expect any SG tournaments to be organized by us south of the border.

    K, bye. Moving on.
    Honestly, with all the competition SG currently has, I still think the best approach is focusing on community growth (scene building, tournament attendance, etc) instead of worrying about getting the game to EVO main stage after a year. It can always have side tournaments with great community support.
    "You can lead a scrub to techniques, but you can't make him think."
  • Master_ChibiMaster_Chibi .: Dynamites! :. Joined: Posts: 15,066 mod
    The video was proof of my efforts to grow the community - not backup how good I am. Whatever though - I'm done with this game. Don't expect any SG tournaments to be organized by us south of the border.

    Congrats, you're a cocky, self absorbed, pretentious quitter!
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  • evilweevleevilweevle Xbox GT : MrFossy Joined: Posts: 4,275
    the video may have originally been to promote the skullgirls scene, but the reason you posted it in here was indeed to back up your claims that you are good players. you even say so yourself in your own posts. you then try and tell people the reason they think it is ass is because of the length of the combos and just dismiss it.

    anyway whatever. i apologise again for not watching the video correctly. its too bad i wasnt around on SG top 16 day (was watching the big screen most the day) since then i could have seen for myself.
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  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,239
    If you want to see this game on the main stage at EVO you're going to have to start taking cues from MK and get the developers on board. The sole reason that MK is big game at MLG and EVO is because the developers are willing to drop money to make sure that the game is in events.

    Of course the only reason they can do this is because the players continue to show up en masse to the events the developers pay for, and this is a lot easier for WB with their millions than Reverge with their $10 and workers who still haven't been payed for contributing years of their lives to the project.

    Grassroots simply isn't enough anymore, tournaments (especially EVO) are simply too big. You need to get the dev in there and you need to make sure they and the TO see a good return on their investment.

    TL;DR: Get Dev support, toss money around, keep numbers from dropping.
    If we're to the point money speaks louder than the players, the FGC has died.
    You did not go back in time, this is how the forums look.
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