What it will take to put Skullgirls on the main stage at EVO next year

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  • Scrub SaibotScrub Saibot IT'S ME AUSTIN! Joined: Posts: 1,582
    If we're to the point money speaks louder than the players, the FGC has died.
    You realize we've been at that point for a while now, right?

    As evidenced by the continued dominance of a game seen by the majority as mediocre at best.
    YOU ALL BOUGHT IT!
    EVEN MY FAMILY, EVEN MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY BOUGHT IT!
  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,239
    You realize we've been at that point for a while now, right?

    As evidenced by the continued dominance of a game seen by the majority as mediocre at best.
    Not really. Capcom didn't really shell out support until recently, they've always got in because that's what people showed up for.

    And EVO game slots aren't an auction or up for sale. They are selected on the likelihood of a good turnout which is shown by turnouts at other events.

    Not sure how an opinion of the vocal minority is evidence. Fact is the SF4 community is large and willing to travel for it, even with low to no monetary support from the developer.

    NRS threw the most money into the EVO pot this year, had the lowest turnout at EVO among the main games.

    So you guys saying pull an MLG and throw money everywhere to attract people have terrible business sense (because you didn't pay attention to how that worked out for MLG and MK9) and are clueless. You "money fixes everything" types are hilarious tbh.
    You did not go back in time, this is how the forums look.
    "You are all just as bad as the people you hate. You're only interested in characters based on tears." - Since1717
    NO STREAM = DEAD GAME
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  • CorenCoren Sponsored By CrossXoveR Joined: Posts: 395
    If we're to the point money speaks louder than the players, the FGC has died.

    Basically EVO 2010 player's choice was the end of that. All EVO got from ECOLE was 10 copies of melty blood, they didn't wanna get involved at all. In addition they had to get a pile of Japanese ps2's to run the game and Wii's for TvC (this is why EVO has a 'everything must be on ps3' rule now). And the cherry on top of that cake is that the only news outlet to even mention melty blood in their EVO 2010 coverage was fucking kotaku (btw, if you haven't seen Garu versus Kusanagi, you've fucked up... ).

    Despite this massive mess, Melty blood had more entries than Marvel or TvC thanks to its massive grassroots campaign to win the player's choice poll and have everyone show up.
    <deadfrog> Fun exercise: if you make a list of every single fighting game you would feel ashamed to play in front of your dad, you'll notice that Coren plays all of those games. Which is commendable.
    <deadfrog> I pulled up the stream archive from bonus stage and having face cams is AWESOME. You look like Thouther, btw.
  • DRaGZ141DRaGZ141 Joined: Posts: 385
    You realize we've been at that point for a while now, right?

    As evidenced by the continued dominance of a game seen by the majority as mediocre at best.

    Well, for one, the majority definitely do not see the game as mediocre. I personally think the game has some really annoying aspects (I really hate FADC and how it can make so much shit safe), but I think it's a fairly solid game otherwise.

    Also, Street Fighter does well because it's fucking Street Fighter. SFxT only got into EVO because it's got "Street Fighter" in the name, it didn't really have to do with the amount of money involved.
  • Scrub SaibotScrub Saibot IT'S ME AUSTIN! Joined: Posts: 1,582
    Not really. Capcom didn't really shell out support until recently, they've always got in because that's what people showed up for.

    What about the top players who play SF4 and UMvC3 for political reasons despite admitting that they don't even like those games, and the top players that stuck with SFxT just because it is a Capcom game?

    Also I'm not a money fixes everything type, I'm just pointing out the reality. The FGC is not just about players and competitors anymore. Sponsors and spectators have had a huge, almost unhealthy bearing on tournaments recently. It's the reason why Skullgirls has gotten extremely poor stream represention and also the reason why good games like P4A and VF5 may be fucked right out of the gate. If scrubs don't want to watch the game then the game has a significantly reduced chance of being represented at tourneys.
    YOU ALL BOUGHT IT!
    EVEN MY FAMILY, EVEN MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY BOUGHT IT!
  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,239
    What about the top players who play SF4 and UMvC3 for political reasons despite admitting that they don't even like those games, and the top players that stuck with SFxT just because it is a Capcom game?

    Also I'm not a money fixes everything type, I'm just pointing out the reality. The FGC is not just about players and competitors anymore. Sponsors and spectators have had a huge, almost unhealthy bearing on tournaments recently. It's the reason why Skullgirls has gotten extremely poor stream represention and also the reason why good games like P4A and VF5 may be fucked right out of the gate. If scrubs don't want to watch the game then the game has a significantly reduced chance of being represented at tourneys.
    Top players are wolves following the sheep. Sponsors are doing the same thing because they want a lot of people to see their name.

    It's hard to attract the pot monsters and spectators because of brand loyalty. Throwing money isn't going to fix this, it's just a temporary solution to attract the mercenary players.

    It's not Capcom, it's specifically SF and Marvel vs Capcom. Any other Capcom FG died in the states.
    You did not go back in time, this is how the forums look.
    "You are all just as bad as the people you hate. You're only interested in characters based on tears." - Since1717
    NO STREAM = DEAD GAME
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  • xesxes Evil Forrest Gump Joined: Posts: 2,528
    Eating our own is the best way to get things done!!

    Well at least it's traditional

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  • Master_ChibiMaster_Chibi .: Dynamites! :. Joined: Posts: 15,066 mod
    Oh please.

    He basically came in and said:

    "The reason we can't get to Evo is because YOU ALL SUCK.

    By the way I'm also helping the scene grow, and I'm bloody AWESOME at it, way more than anyone else here.

    You all still suck though, check out my VIDZ"

    Also Coren, the PS2's for Melty were already available thanks to GG from years prior.
    ~*Hai! Back to Japan!
  • DimeDime Wasting time Joined: Posts: 11,100
    ROFL ummm look at the video.. first of all I did a raw tag earlier in the video because Peacock had no health left at all and was going to get chipped out - I had no choice. I even state that while playing and tell him to punish me for it.

    "Castigame... a fuerzas tenia que hacerlo"

    AFTER the raw tag punish is when Dino counters my jab.

    When I jabbed him he did an alpha counter into Cerebella which is what started the combo. Clearly you are the one who didn't even understand what you were watching. lol I didn't think I needed to spell out exactly what he did for you as it was fairly obvious. The actual "jab" that I'm talking about is at 13:38 - I figured you'd watch for more than 3 seconds. haha And no this community doesn't deserve to survive.


    Im not taking sides or anything... But i clearly remember the ac being after 2 hits... Only watched the vid once though, i remember it cause it was an ac and how often do we see the damn things? That having been said... Even if it were one jab, it isnt impressive, its just a read, he anticipated your timing and ac'd just as he knew you would attack... Like doing a reversal in streetfighter... Shit i pushblock 1 hit jabs all the time AND occasionally ac them...online... Not impressive in the least from where im standing... Justmeans that my opponent was being a bit to predictable.

    Having said that... Many players that dont post here much have already stated that the evo tournie seemed " lower level" than it should have been... Its neither here nor there. Beating a dead horse, after all what good does it do to tell people that they suck at the game? If they could be better QUICKER they probably would... Unfortunately the best overall fighting game players in north america are all streetfighter and marvel players and none of those top players has stepped up and made this game there official 2nd game.. So basically process of elimination means that sg is picking from a pool of generally weaker players anyway... Doesnt matter all that much We are doing all that we can do.


    -dime
    Gettin' my derp on.
  • xesxes Evil Forrest Gump Joined: Posts: 2,528
    Again, melty model. Stick with it and build a core community, and don't hope too hard for next year,

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  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,239
    Again, melty model. Stick with it and build a core community, and don't hope too hard for next year,

    Sent from my Radar 4G using Board Express
    I agree. We can't go from A to Z, we have to hit everything in between.

    Take opportunities as they come. MLG is giving Skullgirls an exhibition, if you can, get your asses out there and put on an excellent showing.
    You did not go back in time, this is how the forums look.
    "You are all just as bad as the people you hate. You're only interested in characters based on tears." - Since1717
    NO STREAM = DEAD GAME
    PSN: X_the_Genius | GGPO: Mr X | Skype: MisterEcks
  • CorenCoren Sponsored By CrossXoveR Joined: Posts: 395
    Oh please.

    He basically came in and said:

    "The reason we can't get to Evo is because YOU ALL SUCK.

    By the way I'm also helping the scene grow, and I'm bloody AWESOME at it, way more than anyone else here.

    You all still suck though, check out my VIDZ"

    Also Coren, the PS2's for Melty were already available thanks to GG from years prior.

    I will find any excuse to post that vid, it owns.

    Also, I love you too Mr. 'quit the Breadcast because he wasn't hungry enough' <3
    <deadfrog> Fun exercise: if you make a list of every single fighting game you would feel ashamed to play in front of your dad, you'll notice that Coren plays all of those games. Which is commendable.
    <deadfrog> I pulled up the stream archive from bonus stage and having face cams is AWESOME. You look like Thouther, btw.
  • Master_ChibiMaster_Chibi .: Dynamites! :. Joined: Posts: 15,066 mod
    I didn't quit, there's nothing to freaking talk about for a Breadcast. lol
    ~*Hai! Back to Japan!
  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    I have personally seen Coren kiss men
    people only pay attention to me because of my vagina awesome penis
  • CorenCoren Sponsored By CrossXoveR Joined: Posts: 395
    I have personally seen Coren kiss men
    Stay on topic, this thread isn't about me, or your mother.
    <deadfrog> Fun exercise: if you make a list of every single fighting game you would feel ashamed to play in front of your dad, you'll notice that Coren plays all of those games. Which is commendable.
    <deadfrog> I pulled up the stream archive from bonus stage and having face cams is AWESOME. You look like Thouther, btw.
  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    Just because you're one of my gay dads it doesn't mean you can tell me what to do on the internet.
    people only pay attention to me because of my vagina awesome penis
  • QETZLQETZL Needs more Salt. Joined: Posts: 494
    Stay on topic, this thread isn't about me, or your mother.
    Just because you're one of my gay dads it doesn't mean you can tell me what to do on the internet.

    This is what you two did instead of going to Stronghold tonight. GAY SONS I AM DOUBLE DISAPPOINT.

    Somewhat on topic, I have felt pretty re-assured about the scene for SG and it's potential to be a stage game, largely in thanks to some recent video contributions by Alexis and Masta CJ. It's becoming a game I can show to completely unintiated and share in the excitement with (Something I could not do before thanks to in part I am still really awful). Just gotta, keep fanning that flame and it'll get bigger.
    CFN: THEBENWA
    I play Bison and when I win I slick my hair back and try to pop my pecs
    as you should.
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