Blazblue Chrono Phantasma - a new installment

c001357

森利道 ‏@zatuyoP
新作:ブレイブルークロノファンタズマ発表しました！ #blazblue

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/6511582.html
announced at the arcsys event
named blazblue chrono phantasma
3 new characters - Amane, Barret, Azrael
new portraits and new outfits for all characters
lots of added moves
one new character from the past
noel changed weapons
bgm changed
hazama gets a new DD
tsubaki now 'dark'

so its basically a whole new game, it seems. more info probably coming soon

Monster637

c001357, post: 7339913, member: 8421 wrote:

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/6511582.html
announced at the bururaji panel at tougeki
named blazblue chrono phantasma
3 new characters
new portraits and new outfits for all characters
lots of added moves
one new character from the past
noel changed weapons
bgm changed

so its basically a whole new game, it seems. more info probably coming soon

Bah not to be a downer dick, but are alot of you really hyped on how they ripped shredded and divided a small scene they had with the mutiple releases on the first, just the other day honestly ,i tossed my CS disk in the trash . My extend,,,,,,sometimes you can find lobbys sometimes,, Ct was made into a freesbie pretty fast! Im giving Arc one last chance with Persona after that fuck it, actually all 2d Fight game makers have become weird,

Spirit Juice

^Terrible post and you should feel terrible. SFIV had multiple releases but did fine. Awful argument.

Anyways, c001357, AFAIK there isn't any kind of official information. We should wait for an official announcement/source before making threads and discussing this.

Eternal Blaze

aww they didnt continue the theme with the letters? shouldve been BB:CR =/

If kokonoe is one of the new characters i might consider getting it..

Alzarath

Waiting for official announcement.

Make the game faster please ;_;

Crazy_mofo213

All I want is for Kokonoe to be playable. If they give me that, then I'll be satisfied with the new Blazblue.

Class Real

I liked CT and CS. Wasn't feeling the $40 for barely any new content with CSE, but I might check this out. BB's probably the only fighting game I actually enjoy playing for the story. Playable Kokonoe would definitely help too.

c001357

mori confirmed it on twitter ITS REAL GUYS

Geese Pants

Spirit Juice, post: 7339935, member: 2770 wrote:

^Terrible post and you should feel terrible. SFIV had multiple releases but did fine. Awful argument.

Yeah.....................never really understand why the Blazblue players collectively turned their back on the series.

devastator

So this is legit then. I skipped out on Extend but if Kokonoe is one of the 3 new characters then I am all over this.

Class Real

Geese Pants, post: 7339950, member: 1292 wrote:

Yeah.....................never really understand why the Blazblue players collectively turned their back on the series.

Updating the game right before Evo was a pretty big blow to the US scene. Then the aforementioned release of a barebones CSE certainly didn't help. Then there's also the massive delay between arcades getting updated BB and consoles getting updated BB that makes everyone feel like not playing until the new version is out.

They just need to cool their jets on the updates. Let the game stand on its feet long enough to build the scene a bit before challenging everyone to stay on top of patch lists.

tataki

Geese Pants, post: 7339950, member: 1292 wrote:

Yeah.....................never really understand why the Blazblue players collectively turned their back on the series.

Those who really liked the game never did. The series constantly improved in each update with Extend being the best so far. (I dropped it because I didn't like the defining features of the series compared to other air dash games, which were not going to change anyway)

beyond_death

Yea I skipped Extend. I will most definitely get this.

Tizoc

Spirit Juice, post: 7339935, member: 2770 wrote:

^Terrible post and you should feel terrible. SFIV had multiple releases but did fine. Awful argument.

Not really, there was SF4 in 2009, then SSF4 in 2010, after that one could get AE update thru PSN or XBL (like I did), or purchase the disc release.

As far as BB is concernred. There was CT, then CS, then CSE. I personally think the inclusion of Relius didn't warrant a new disc release, he could've also been a DLC character like the other 3.

Regardless, looking forward to this new one and hopefully Tager'll be able to deal some REAL SOVIET DAMAGE.

SteelyHawke

Hmm....

Tenjo's son
Kokonoe
Jubei
Torakaka
Nine(phantom)

The total pool of available characters. Phantom is probably in if she is one of the six heroes(Nine?), Jubei is almost definitely in there and people have been asking for Kokonoe for a while. The writers even teased us when they made Kokonoe complain about her absence as a fighter in one of those alternative endings. ASW needs to retool everyone significantly. I understand the complaints from longtime fans who feel that the game isn't changing drastically enough. Just about everyone that isn't Relius needs some big shakeups.

Don't know if new outfits would even make sense in 2D fighter. Might just be for some specific characters.

c001357

forgot to mention that when they said all new characters they meant it

Spirit Juice

Geese Pants, post: 7339950, member: 1292 wrote:

Yeah.....................never really understand why the Blazblue players collectively turned their back on the series.

Don't know. The game has never had a HUGE scene, but if there's one thing certain about the FGC in the US, your main game being at Evo helps increase its longevity. BB not being at Evo hurt it a lot.

Tizoc, post: 7339965, member: 4439 wrote:

Not really, there was SF4 in 2009, then SSF4 in 2010, after that one could get AE update thru PSN or XBL (like I did), or purchase the disc release.

As far as BB is concernred. There was CT, then CS, then CSE. I personally think the inclusion of Relius didn't warrant a new disc release, he could've also been a DLC character like the other 3.

AE and 2012 were two different updates though. I don't know if 2012 was free or not though. Regardless, both SFIV and BBCSE had the same amount of updates. Having so many updates helped the scene more than hurt it since the game improved upon itself every time.

tataki

Spirit Juice, post: 7339992, member: 2770 wrote:

BB not being at Evo

Wait what?

Spirit Juice

tataki, post: 7340007, member: 4806 wrote:

Wait what?

This year (2012). Not last year.

tataki

Spirit Juice, post: 7340010, member: 2770 wrote:

This year (2012). Not last year.

It didn't help last year either. You can't get games popular from top to bottom. You need to work your way up. Being at EVO doesn't help when throughout the year not many people are interested in playing the game.
And besides, we have P4U to focus on now. It's better to use that to get new people to get into air dash games in general and see how fun they are, and from that position they'll be more open to any new game that comes along.

Eternal Blaze

No kokonoe huh?

Welp, guess its back to ignoring this series like it never existed.

SmokeMaxX

Spirit Juice, post: 7339935, member: 2770 wrote:

^Terrible post and you should feel terrible. SFIV had multiple releases but did fine. Awful argument.

Anyways, c001357, AFAIK there isn't any kind of official information. We should wait for an official announcement/source before making threads and discussing this.

Street Fighter IV sold a TON of copies. Even if half the people didn't buy SSFIV, the sequel could still stand on its own two legs. You could split the userbase in half AGAIN and AE would be able to stand on its own two feet.

BlazBlue doesn't have that luxury. For smaller games, every time you release a sequel that less people buy, you're cutting already low numbers and potentially killing your scene. You can't compare the communities of both of the games. While I think that BlazBlue fans are more passionate about their game, I also know that their community is much smaller. A smaller community is much harder to maintain than a larger one. That's why it's important to grow. Releasing a new game does often lead to growth (see: Street Fighter IV), but in my limited experience, it hasn't done that with the BlazBlue series because the releases have been too constant.

RoGE9

Meh..Should be a free update to CSE with the option to pay for the characters. I honestly didn't feel like spending 40 bucks for that balance update. Besides, they are obviously going to "fix" Tager this time because they screwed up last time.

And AE2012 was free if you had AE.

Spirit Juice

tataki, post: 7340024, member: 4806 wrote:

It didn't help last year either. You can't get games popular from top to bottom. You need to work your way up. Being at EVO doesn't help when throughout the year not many people are interested in playing the game.
And besides, we have P4U to focus on now. It's better to use that to get new people to get into air dash games in general and see how fun they are, and from that position they'll be more open to any new game that comes along.

Having your game at Evo certainly helps. Although it's only "theory fighter", it's very unlikely SFxT would have remained as "popular" (I use that word very loosely here) if it was not at Evo. If it wasn't at Evo, there probably wouldn't have been a scene left by the time Evo rolled around.

SmokeMaxX, post: 7340028, member: 12648 wrote:

Street Fighter IV sold a TON of copies. Even if half the people didn't buy SSFIV, the sequel could still stand on its own two legs. You could split the userbase in half AGAIN and AE would be able to stand on its own two feet.

BlazBlue doesn't have that luxury. For smaller games, every time you release a sequel that less people buy, you're cutting already low numbers and potentially killing your scene. You can't compare the communities of both of the games. While I think that BlazBlue fans are more passionate about their game, I also know that their community is much smaller. A smaller community is much harder to maintain than a larger one. That's why it's important to grow. Releasing a new game does often lead to growth (see: Street Fighter IV), but in my limited experience, it hasn't done that with the BlazBlue series because the releases have been too constant.

You see, here's the thing: it's difficult to make these kinds of statements because you're thinking of only the US market. All of those revisions aren't made for the US; they're made for Japan. It's obvious the Japanese scene is much, much larger than America's, so in the end ASW shouldn't be blamed since they were catering to their target audience. I honestly don't think it's wise to say "ASW shouldn't keep making revisions" when the game is doing so well with their target audience. It's very difficult to say that the many new releases is what caused disinterest.

yomipower

In other words, ArcSys keep milking that money cow frequently.

tataki

Spirit Juice, post: 7340044, member: 2770 wrote:

Having your game at Evo certainly helps. Although it's only "theory fighter", it's very unlikely SFxT would have remained as "popular" (I use that word very loosely here) if it was not at Evo. If it wasn't at Evo, there probably wouldn't have been a scene left by the time Evo rolled around.

SFXT's popularity begins and ends with the brand name. Of course it will get more play right before EVO and CAR PRIZE but that's not something that lasts. That's not real growth.

yomipower, post: 7340054, member: 53955 wrote:

In other words, ArcSys keep milking that money cow frequently.

You have to keep in mind that their games are "Arcade 1st, Console later". The constant updates is to give arcade goers a better game (which they don't need to pay extra for).

SmokeMaxX

Spirit Juice, post: 7340044, member: 2770 wrote:

You see, here's the thing: it's difficult to make these kinds of statements because you're thinking of only the US market. All of those revisions aren't made for the US; they're made for Japan. It's obvious the Japanese scene is much, much larger than America's, so in the end ASW shouldn't be blamed since they were catering to their target audience. I honestly don't think it's wise to say "ASW shouldn't keep making revisions" when the game is doing so well with their target audience. It's very difficult to say that the many new releases is what caused disinterest.

I guess that's understandable. I'm more interested in them actually making BlazBlue into a mainstream game though. I think it's a solid game (even though I don't play it because I don't have time) and I think it deserves better than what it gets. If you're not on one of the coasts of the US, you PROBABLY (small exceptions excluded) don't have a BlazBlue scene worth mentioning. That's a problem that I think ASW should work to fix, although I don't think they have an American division, so I'm not sure how they'd do that. But it's obvious that American sales are important because they make up a large portion of sales for the game.

JayAlanCarter

are they still making that GG update?

c001357

in other news loketest is tomorrow at akiba HEY

RoGE9

Hopefully the gameplay changes make it more interesting and fresh.



and hopefully it gets played more than a month #kappa

CrimsonMoonMist

Looking forwards to hearing more,
had a lot of fun with CT but lost the steam after CSII and completely fell off with Extend.
But I'm totally willing to jump back in with an actual sequel.
Kind of more hyped about hearing the new soundtrack at this point though.

Tomo009

Wait, really? Arksys in overdrive right now

tataki

RoGE9, post: 7340041, member: 7517 wrote:

And AE2012 was free if you had AE.

Because they fucked AE up on purpose... AE shouldn't have existed at all. AE2012 is what people should have been getting all along.

RoGE9

tataki, post: 7340134, member: 4806 wrote:

Because they fucked AE up on purpose... AE shouldn't have existed at all. AE2012 is what people should have been getting all along.

Yup, didn't they say it was because unbalanced games were "more competitive"? Um...What? Lol

Ika Zuchi No Kami

FUCK, let this shit die and go back to GG already

Kavitee

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201208/05019131.html trailer

DaFeetLee

traxus

Spirit Juice, post: 7339992, member: 2770 wrote:

Don't know. The game has never had a HUGE scene, but if there's one thing certain about the FGC in the US, your main game being at Evo helps increase its longevity. BB not being at Evo hurt it a lot.



AE and 2012 were two different updates though. I don't know if 2012 was free or not though. Regardless, both SFIV and BBCSE had the same amount of updates. Having so many updates helped the scene more than hurt it since the game improved upon itself every time.

AE was like $12, and 2012 was free. $12 for four characters + a balance update, is a lot different than paying $40 for one character + balance update.

Tomo009

Looks like development has come pretty far. They hid it pretty well.

Azrael looks kind of interesting, can't wait to see more of this. Bullet looked a little too much like Makoto in that footage, but it's hard to tell with it being so short.

PozerWolf

Not gonna lie. As want this game to just die off already as much as the next person, but that trailer did get me hyped for some reason.

I don't know, hopefully they learned in the past and not fuck up this version.

SteelyHawke

People gotta have more appreciation for BB. ASW might not even be around anymore if it weren't for BB. It made them enough cash to stay healthy which in turn allowed them to make Persona and buy back Guilty Gear from Sega.

Guilty Gear's awesomeness is almost completely parallel to the fan bitchiness. :|

Rhio2k

SteelyHawke, post: 7340212, member: 54106 wrote:

People gotta have more appreciation for BB. ASW might not even be around anymore if it weren't for BB. It made them enough cash to stay healthy which in turn allowed them to make Persona and buy back Guilty Gear from Sega.

Guilty Gear's awesomeness is almost completely parallel to the fan bitchiness. :|

If they didn't charge for new characters, we might. Also, this updated version shit needs to stop. Just give us ONE version, patch/tweak problems, and that's it. We pay ONCE, for ONE version of the game. You can still do your announcer pack dlc bullshit for horny people desperate enough to want to pay to hear their waifu. And fuck color packs, give us color edit mode. This shit should have gone.

BB

BB 2 (Extend content already included)

This game.

SteelyHawke

I agree with you. It would have been far better if they just made a "1", "2" and "3" that each received one paid patch with balance updates and characters instead. Extend was not necessary. Also, color mode would definitely be greatly appreciated.

Jamp

Kind of expecting more characters, at least for the console version. No Nu/Lambda makes me sad.

I'll think twice before buying any DLC after Extend though.

tataki

PozerWolf, post: 7340202, member: 3030 wrote:

I don't know, hopefully they learned in the past and not fuck up this version.

Depends on what you think their fuck ups were...

Pete278

Extend's really the only thing sticking out, the other versions were fine. Extended was pretty retarded though, Relius is worth $50 guys, trust us

Nora Kisaragi

God damn it...God damnit damnit damnit, the announcer is EVEN WORSE than Extends!

Looks like they kept Litchi's godawful narrator voice and she actually GOT WORSE

Damn it...CT narrator better be DLC. I see they're keeping Saya console exclusive, ala mu-12.

Yin

1,2,3 would have been a lot less confusing too. After CS I just totally lost track of this series, lot's of confusing titles and DLC.

Not to mention the release offset for Arcsys stuff if you're in EU.
When I imported CS, CT hadn't even been released here I think... But maybe that stuff got better after CS, I didn't keep track.

tataki

Nora Kisaragi, post: 7340297, member: 42299 wrote:

God damn it...God damnit damnit damnit, the announcer is EVEN WORSE than Extends!

^deaf

Nora Kisaragi

tataki, post: 7340304, member: 4806 wrote:

^deaf

They should have just kept CT's narrator.

Looks like they're shoe-horning Litchi's VA into the narrator role AGAIN for BB3. Nobody wanted her, nobody.

Tomo009

Honestly, the "wheel of fate is turning" bit sounded better than any previous, terrible iteration