The Chie Satonaka Thread

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  • EmilEmil Joined: Posts: 4,389
    But again, if they roll through God Hand, you're screwed. Only use this tactic when you don't think they'll expect it.

    More like, never use this tactic since any decent player should and probably will roll it. There's no reason not to and there's much better instant overhead and fast high into low mixups you can do with Chie that are viable.
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  • MoTheHawkMoTheHawk Just Fight. Joined: Posts: 170
    More like, never use this tactic since any decent player should and probably will roll it. There's no reason not to and there's much better instant overhead and fast high into low mixups you can do with Chie that are viable.
    I get away with this a lot more than I should with the local players here... bad habit :X But yeah, if you can help it, avoid tactics like these which basically amount to you taking a gamble on your opponent's lack of knowledge.
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  • CaButlerCaButler Joined: Posts: 36
    While we're on the subject of matchups and tactics, any good one's for Mitsuru players? She's probably the only character I can't figure out in this game.
  • MoTheHawkMoTheHawk Just Fight. Joined: Posts: 170
    While we're on the subject of matchups and tactics, any good one's for Mitsuru players? She's probably the only character I can't figure out in this game.
    The first step in any Mitsuru match is to make him/her respect your 2A. It gives you enough upper body invincibility to completely low-profile Mitsuru's 5A and Coup Droit, 2 of her best poking tools. Practice doing dash 2As (input a dash, then instead of returning the stick to neutral, slide it from forward to down/forward and hit A) and confirming those into knockdown combos.

    You also need to make them respect your 5DD oki setup. ALWAYS hold back to block for a brief moment before going in for your mixup, just in case she tries to wake-up DP out of it, and if she did, punish her hard. Practice punishing her with dash 5B BEFORE she touches the ground after a DP; this completely removes the risk of eating a Bufudyne upon her landing as so many Mitsurus are fond of doing.

    Mitsuru also has a unique answer to the oki setup: wakeup 2B. It has some funky invincibility properties that allows her to hit your persona and get out of your setup clean. The 2B will also catch you if you were jumping towards her. If the Mitsuru starts doing this, you need to adjust the timing of your 5DD to be a bit later than usual. If timed properly 5DD will be a true meaty attack and 2B is no longer a viable escape option for her. But you do this at the cost of a less effective mix-up: now your persona will push Mitsuru farther away, not giving you enough time to get to the other side of her. This makes your mixup is one-dimensional, but still effective. Practice IAD'ing after your delayed 5DD and going for any combination of highs and lows.

    For the most part, you should cool it on using your own DP in this match. Mitsuru can hit you from safe ranges where your follow-up kicks won't hit her even if your DP is triggered. And Mitsurus LOVE to 4B Fatal Counter people when their opponent thinks they have a window to push their own buttons. If she has you blocking, just be patient and react. You'll get hit by the occasional j.B overhead while you're blocking, but she can only convert this into a combo by spending 50 meter to OMC it. So try not to panic if you keep getting hit by j.B.

    There's more but I'm tired, lol. Hopefully these are some good starting points.

    OH. And Mitsuru's 5AAB is not safe before the B if she holds down B to delay it. This is the only part of her pressure I feel comfortable using my DP to get out of.
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  • EmilEmil Joined: Posts: 4,389
    Also watch the Kirisame vs. LordKnight match from NEC...as well as any japanese chie vs. mitsuru match. Spinking completely destroyed the best Mitsuru player, Shuuto, you can look at that one too.
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  • CaButlerCaButler Joined: Posts: 36
    I keep forgetting about the low 2A for Chie, but the 5DD and 5B are things I didn't know I could use as effective there, so thanks for that.

    As for terms, what is IAD and spinking?

    And is there a link to the Kirisame vs LordKnight matchup? Never mind, I found it.
  • EmilEmil Joined: Posts: 4,389
    I keep forgetting about the low 2A for Chie, but the 5DD and 5B are things I didn't know I could use as effective there, so thanks for that.

    As for terms, what is IAD and spinking?

    And is there a link to the Kirisame vs LordKnight matchup? Never mind, I found it.

    IAD = instant airdash

    Spinking is a japanese Chie player. Look up SpinKing vs. Shuuto.
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  • MoTheHawkMoTheHawk Just Fight. Joined: Posts: 170
    For anyone still having trouble with Challenge 30 I put together a video. Hope it helps someone!

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  • MoTheHawkMoTheHawk Just Fight. Joined: Posts: 170
    I put together a collection of 214C FC combos

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  • iminthenet2iminthenet2 Joined: Posts: 490
    Thanks for sharing these videos, they're good.
  • GRITZGRITZ Chill out, dickwad. Joined: Posts: 193
    I recently purchased P4A for the 360 and plan on practicing/maining with Chie. I'll study what you've posted so far before asking any questions. Thanks for the info!
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