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  • bodlerbodler The Unmixupable Joined: Posts: 1,075
  • RHayabusaRHayabusa I Izuna Drop on the first date Joined: Posts: 156
    Hi

    I?m not new to SF so I guess this is almost embarrassing-but I must know. What is the point of just plain crouching? Does it avoid throws unlike cr guard or can you duck under some high attacks? Or can you not cr guard upon wakeup? That is does it take a second and people take advantage of it?

    I ask because in matches and combo vids the player sometimes gets hits by non-guard disabling moves whilst crouching and cr crouching would have blocked the move. For instance Remy close mp. I don understand why people would ever cr over crouch guard? All help appreciated.
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  • ryushenryushen Joined: Posts: 103
    what about parry install ..? a term i use it if i install parry command before the move.
    some moves to me is suitable to this technique as example in ryu
    far mk if the ppl with ken did a jap dp ryu parry it .

    Is there an article to David sirlin explain why did he dose not like 3s..?

    Doses capcom think that the game is balanced so they did not establish a more balanced version...??
    i did not say the is unbalanced but when i see only yun.chun.ken in tournaments i feel sick.:shake:
  • OJuggernautOOJuggernautO Tyler "Juggs" Smith Joined: Posts: 512
    Hi all I'm new to this game, and just wondering about the online community for XBL. Do alot of people play on it or not? And are there any players here in Georgia (U.S.)?

    And do alot of people play this game offline? Like I know it's at EVO, but is it as big as I have heard?
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  • DevilJin 01DevilJin 01 Get some shill in yo system Joined: Posts: 58,907 mod
    Hi all I'm new to this game, and just wondering about the online community for XBL. Do alot of people play on it or not? And are there any players here in Georgia (U.S.)?

    And do alot of people play this game offline? Like I know it's at EVO, but is it as big as I have heard?

    Actually...for whatever reason...there's a lot of people in the South that like 3rd Strike. 3rd Strike always gets big 100 + turnouts at Final Round (regional tourney event in Atlanta Georgia every March). People still play on Xbox Live but not as much as before. Now that you can basically play 3rd Strike online for virtually no money (don't even have to pay for the game) with your PC...that's what more people are doing now.

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  • OJuggernautOOJuggernautO Tyler "Juggs" Smith Joined: Posts: 512
    Actually...for whatever reason...there's a lot of people in the South that like 3rd Strike. 3rd Strike always gets big 100 + turnouts at Final Round (regional tourney event in Atlanta Georgia every March). People still play on Xbox Live but not as much as before. Now that you can basically play 3rd Strike online for virtually no money (don't even have to pay for the game) with your PC...that's what more people are doing now.

    Thanks!
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  • FryghtFryght Joined: Posts: 23
    I'd like some tips on how to get close enough to actually be able to do combos and crap, especially on runaway players. Friend of mine plays Gouki, runs like a little bitch all day.

    I dont like turtling myself. Playing Yang and Ken
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  • GaijinblazeGaijinblaze fingerlicans Joined: Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Somebody should make a new FAQ for new players. The first post is empty except for a tier list (a virtually useless thing for a new player). How many new people would even want to read past the first post in something called "New Player FAQ / Directions / START HERE?" Start where? The third page? And videos about parrying everything and ground crossups has barely any value at all for someone who's just starting.

    If a new one were to be made, what should be included? Is there a video about spacing, controlling your opponent, reacting appropriately, evaluating risk, punishing whiffs, not being random, using common sense, etc. that can be referenced?
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  • FryghtFryght Joined: Posts: 23
    SFxT: Ryu/Julia, BBCS:EX: Arakune, 3S: Oro, GGAC: Axl, Baiken
  • KyokujiKyokuji Needlessly Perverted Joined: Posts: 2,926
    Somebody should make a new FAQ for new players. The first post is empty except for a tier list (a virtually useless thing for a new player). How many new people would even want to read past the first post in something called "New Player FAQ / Directions / START HERE?" Start where? The third page? And videos about parrying everything and ground crossups has barely any value at all for someone who's just starting.

    That's why I jammed everything I know into my first post in my LB2 topic. Gbursine did the same thing with his Vampire Savior one. Dunno why nobody else has gone that route. It's takes too long to sift through dozens of pages for information even if you do use the search function.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Gold
    Something I try sometimes (even now) is arrograntly trying to land a move on someone repeatedly even though they won't let me. For example, lets say I want to walk up to someone with Ken and just do a light dragon. The learning curve is getting around all the counters and stuff that the opponent is doing to stop me from doing that dragon. Like maybe they'll start out with max range sweep. So first I have to learn to bait or parry that. Once thats done, they might start throwing out high pokes once I get past their max sweep range. So then I might try and high parry or counter poke to stop them. And so on and so on. Granted - if your opponent is good you'll most probably NEVER get that dragon, but you've learnt A LOT about the system mechanics while trying to land it.

    This sort of thing mainly followed on from my endless attempts to land Raging Demons on people. I've learnt so many OTHER things while trying to get that, I hardly bother with the actual demons anymore - I just use the fear of it to bait out all the counter pokes or jump away attempts.

    You have no idea how much I love this post :rofl:
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    May someone please explain what Option Select is? Is it some kind of parry or tech throw or something? I'm not clear on that. Thanks.
  • HenakiHenaki Joined: Posts: 2,661
    theres a bunch of option selects in 3s, the most common is low tech which is crouching LP+LK, if they throw you, you get a throw tech, if not you get crouching jab.
  • Acer1236Acer1236 ?! Joined: Posts: 623
    Can someone refresh me on the mechanics of parrying? I forgot the frame-windows on blue and red and the nuances behind the system. There was a post that covered the windows for a tap and sloppy parrying and stuff but I can't find it.
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  • EckostyleEckostyle Those were some desperate dudes! Joined: Posts: 932
    Is rushdown a matter of confidence, or formula?

    I dropped playing Chun and I've been picking up Ken(again), but damn, I still cant help but turtle/poke most of the time and play super conservatively, in which I end up getting rushed down.
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  • Nick NastyNick Nasty Lacks Execution Joined: Posts: 150
    What are Tourny Settings in terms of System Direction? I'm pretty sure they're the "normal" and not original. Is this correct?

    I am also wondering about this.
  • GaijinblazeGaijinblaze fingerlicans Joined: Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    He had it right. System direction is never tampered with in tournaments. The developers did a poor job of naming the settings since normal and original sound like the same thing, but normal is what you want.

    The game's main option menu is fine on its default settings, too.
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  • Nick NastyNick Nasty Lacks Execution Joined: Posts: 150
    He had it right. System direction is never tampered with in tournaments. The developers did a poor job of naming the settings since normal and original sound like the same thing, but normal is what you want.

    The game's main option menu is fine on its default settings, too.

    Thanks for the info man.
  • scum gale 88scum gale 88 yo! It's SYBOK! Joined: Posts: 1,739
    Ive been playing this game on and off and for a while I was really into this game. thanks to 2df Ive started getting back into it.
    I.
    AM.
    HORRIBLE.

    its been about a year or two since I played this game. at all. while Im still relearning the game my old habits never went away.
    I cant zone, I cant poke, I cant combo, I cant parry, hell I cant even block all that well.

    its so discouraging getting owned by ONLY 12's HP.
    I feel totally helpless like a newborn kitten, Im thinking of quitting this game.
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  • LostintheflurryLostintheflurry KM Joined: Posts: 441
    Ive been playing this game on and off and for a while I was really into this game. thanks to 2df Ive started getting back into it.
    I.
    AM.
    HORRIBLE.

    its been about a year or two since I played this game. at all. while Im still relearning the game my old habits never went away.
    I cant zone, I cant poke, I cant combo, I cant parry, hell I cant even block all that well.

    its so discouraging getting owned by ONLY 12's HP.
    I feel totally helpless like a newborn kitten, Im thinking of quitting this game.

    then do this. throw out everything you knew and learn how to block and not get hit. forget attacking, don't worry about getting damage, just block everything. when they start throwing allot try to tech those.
    for a while ONLY do damage from openings don't worry about forcing your damage. it'll be easy to see your progress from how much longer you will be living.
    i reworked my game this way when i wanted to start red parrying and its the best thing to do imo.
  • bodlerbodler The Unmixupable Joined: Posts: 1,075
    just keep playing man, it aint like your gonna be a pro right away, make sure you keep playing people that are better then you so you always up your game.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I have just started playing and there are many questions I have.

    Now, I need to just keep playing and get used to an arcade stick because it seems to be really hard to beat around the joystick fast (innuendo? where?). Now I have played with most of the characters (I just gotta get around to playing Yun) and so far I am really digging Mr. Thong. This raises the problem of doing anything since charging seems really complicated to me at the moment. So first question is should I first get used to the game and the arcade stick by using characters that aren't as complicated but still fair well (Chun was pretty fun but simple. Maybe even Dudley!)? Then go back to Urien when I'm actually comfortable around the machine?
  • ricec0okerricec0oker Joined: Posts: 95
    I play Ken and have tried Chun-Li (don't like her style that much) and I always have the same problem with both characters and that is:

    Cancelling c. mk into super.

    The main two problems I have with doing this is 1) A lot of the times, I tend to activate the super even when the c. mk gets blocked or parried, which leaves me wide open. and 2) I can never seem to pull it off when i'm on the left side, I can only do it successfully 100% when I'm on 2P side.

    Was just wondering how to fix these two habits so that for #1 I don't rush the super after a failed c. mk and #2 be able to pull off the link on both 1P and 2P sides.
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    The main two problems I have with doing this is 1) A lot of the times, I tend to activate the super even when the c. mk gets blocked or parried, which leaves me wide open. and 2) I can never seem to pull it off when i'm on the left side, I can only do it successfully 100% when I'm on 2P side.

    Was just wondering how to fix these two habits so that for #1 I don't rush the super after a failed c. mk and #2 be able to pull off the link on both 1P and 2P sides.

    1. Do c.lk, c.lk xx SA3 or c.mp xx SA3 instead.

    2. Just practice more
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  • 6lue6lue crap cammy Joined: Posts: 129
    Kind of a newbie and I just wanted to ask something. Is there an advantage of using chains over links or vice versa? or is it situational? if so, would it be possible to ask for an example? The reason I ask is because I'm horrible at fighting games and whenever I put on 3s, it's like I just throw the longest possible combo I know. If these have been ask, I apologize for reposting them.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I play Ken and have tried Chun-Li (don't like her style that much) and I always have the same problem with both characters and that is:

    Cancelling c. mk into super.

    The main two problems I have with doing this is 1) A lot of the times, I tend to activate the super even when the c. mk gets blocked or parried, which leaves me wide open. and 2) I can never seem to pull it off when i'm on the left side, I can only do it successfully 100% when I'm on 2P side.

    Was just wondering how to fix these two habits so that for #1 I don't rush the super after a failed c. mk and #2 be able to pull off the link on both 1P and 2P sides.


    get Sf: AC for ps2 and go to training mode ---> random guard. practice hit verification. also, ken's c. mk into super is one of the more difficult confirms in the game since you cant link it and hence get very little time for verification, so use cr. mp instead.
  • RaishinXRaishinX I fell off Joined: Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Kind of a newbie and I just wanted to ask something. Is there an advantage of using chains over links or vice versa? or is it situational? if so, would it be possible to ask for an example? The reason I ask is because I'm horrible at fighting games and whenever I put on 3s, it's like I just throw the longest possible combo I know. If these have been ask, I apologize for reposting them.

    I'm going to assume you're talking about hit confirmation. You'll want to use both in the interest of a good mixup. I would think links do more damage (like Dud's fwd. rh. over his short, short super). Links (and anything else really) can sometimes be slower than short chain combos.

    As for longest possible combo? Learn what's good and what isn't lengthening your combo with supers might look cool but thanks to damage scaling it really isn't always good.

    For example with Akuma you'll only want to do hit confirms or short combos into super or else you'll rob the super of its damage (which is the whole point, really). By the time you get to the point in your combo where you do a super it'll do so little damage that it'll be a waste of your super gauge.
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  • 6lue6lue crap cammy Joined: Posts: 129
    Thanks RaishinX.

    Also wanted to ask about Kara throwing. How does it differ from just tapping forward then throw? and is it possible to do uoh into super? if so, how? Sorry for the questions. Hope it's no trouble.
  • 1DarkChaos1DarkChaos Joined: Posts: 65
    what exactly do the chart value mean?
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Since no one is posting anything, here's some videos new players should watch:

    http://www.combovideos.com/page.php?id=118
    Basics of 3S (2nd half to be made).

    http://www.combovideos.com/page.php?id=58
    Some combo links for every character.

    http://www.combovideos.com/page.php?id=86
    Ground crossup tutorial.

    http://media.bustkaratedojo.net/
    Guide to meaty hits.


    Parry exhibition (red parry too).

    thanks for the videos, i just recently got into SF3 on the serious side. ive been playing for awhile but not like seriously to the point where i wanted to learn all about it. thanks this is going to help me out alot.
  • supersonic395supersonic395 Joined: Posts: 104
    Hi everyone,

    I'm a complete newbie at SF3 (third strike to be more accurate) and I have no idea how to parry. I tried doing what the manual says & that was no help and neither was the 'parry training' mode. :sad:

    Are there any detailed videos/guides on how to parry (and one that tells you the input).

    Any & all help would be much appreciated.
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  • GaijinblazeGaijinblaze fingerlicans Joined: Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    First the stick has to be in neutral (ha, sounds like driving a car or something). For example, you can't decide you want to parry something in the middle of an SRK motion. Basically, for moves above your knees, tap forward right before the move hits. The window is about a third of a second. Tap down for low moves. My advice for a new person is, if you attempt a parry, don't keep pressing that direction and drooling at the screen waiting for something to happen. Attempt it, then if nothing happens, stay calm and block as quickly as you can. Don't get caught up in the moment because the fight goes on whether you're ready or not.
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  • supersonic395supersonic395 Joined: Posts: 104
    Cheers for the help man, will definately be practicing it:bgrin:
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  • DOA.DOA. DOAisBetter Joined: Posts: 138
    Anyone know where I can find a 2009 3S tier list(match up chart really)? My friend has been ranting about how the match ups go, however he apparently can't even find the list he was looking at.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Hey guys, it's popertop here.

    I've been playing 3s for a little while (I'm bad, but not garbage), lurking the boards looking for techniques and such, and I just now found this thread.
    Me and a friend are looking to attend a tournament soon to see how we do and meet other people in our state(TX, the greatest state that ever was) that play.

    Thought I'd post here and see what was up.
  • TerrificTorkoalTerrificTorkoal Joined: Posts: 72
    Someone today pointed out that I have a bad habit of running back into my corner and I now realize that my corner game isn't that great. Any general tips on how to keep applying that pressure?
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    quick question, can you play the Anniversary collection on xbox 360 and do tournement edition or regular controllers work ?
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