[KOFXIII] Elisabeth Blanctorche

Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF.Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
edited October 2013 in King of Fighters XIII
This is a comprehensive guide to the KOFXIII character known as Elisabeth (also known as Betty, according to Ash).
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Move set:
* Cou de Pied Ann = f.B
* Etincelles = QCF+A or C
NOTE: Very good for building meter - but certainly not as good as it was in the arcade version. Use this technique to continue combos, stop projectiles, and punish hops/jump-ins.
* Coup de Veine: DP+A or C
NOTE: This move is your best friend for counter attacks and... juggling!
* Reverie-Souhaiter = QCF+B or D
Reverie-prier = QCB+B or D
NOTE: This is her unique method of movement. Reversie-prier gives her lower body invincibility. Reversie helps Betty close the gap between her and her opponent. EX version gives her full body invincibility. She can also cancel into any of her other special move during this move.
* Reverie-jere = QCB+A or C
NOTE: A reactionary counter movement. A version is meant for high/mid attacks while the C is meant for low. If done successfully, Betty teleport's and allows the player to punish accordingly. EX version is an instantaneous counter that works on all high, mid or low attacks - the opponent LOCKED into a hit-stun. On a mid-air opponent, they just stand on the ground again in the same hit stun as she teleports.
Mistral = HCB,F+A or C
NOTE: Her command grab... a 7 frame command grab. You can combo after the EX version.


DM: Noble Blanc:QCFx2+A or C.

DM: Grand Rapheal: QCFHCB+A or C.

Neo Max: Etoile Filanto: QCBHCF+B or D
NOTE: The Neo Max in itself works as a counter attack. If used in a HD combo as a Max Cancel however, the move will automatically trigger and cause a lot damage.

Betty is another character that can play a variety of roles as a team member, and is very powerful. To elaborate, she has very few weaknesses in her fighting style. Betty fits into any team position and does well. Betty also has a "Geese Howard" thing going on - she has a ton of methods of outright counteracting everything the opponent does. The fact that Betty has a command throw, a unique command dash, and viable anti-air options helps quite a bit. Very well balanced, relative easy to player, and becomes deadly in the right hands. Betty is made to juggle her opponent hopelessly, counter their movements, and punishing the opponents mistakes.
Betty's meter-less combos are very useful but her weaknesses stem from having limited methods of opening the opponent up for attack so to speak. Her normal moves are have relatively short range but her pressure game is very nice. While Betty does not have a true anti-air, her Etincelles can act as such and probably her s.A to stop a few airborne attacks or jump-ins. Otherwise you carefully space yourself from jumping opponents or counter with Reverie-Jere. Also, Betty has interesting command movement that can help her properly set the opponent up for painful punishment. Her DP+C sets the opponent into a juggle state. In the corner a good meter-less combo would be some like this - s.C, f.B, DP+C, QCF+C, DP+A, j.D. At midscreen, the ideal meter-less combo would be this - s.C, f.B, DP+C, DP+A, j.D. Another aspect that needs to be understood is that Betty has some of the best juggle combos, as well as the ability to have a good time using supers more than once in a combo. Betty is a very well rounded character who can devastate many opponents strategies and provide great possibilities for the player. Her HD combos require quite a bit of precision but they are generally damaging. Always keep in mind that her QCF,HCB+P has anywhere-juggle properties - this can be a very method of finishing a lot of combos.
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KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2013
    Here is a short combo video on Betty's behalf. She is a very fun character to use once you learn her game play fundamentals.
    Post edited by Great_Dark_Hero on
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    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    https://twitter.com/Great_Dark_Hero http://ask.fm/Great_Dark_Hero
    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    Here is a safe jump set up on Elizabeth's behalf:
    Spoiler:

    Whenever you are trying to do a HD combo and you are canceling from DP into a QCF+P motion, DO NOT PRESS FORWARD DURING THE DP MOTION. The player needs to conduct a perfect DP motion and then immediate go back down for the QCF input.
    This will mostly apply to Betty's 2 bar HD combos.
    Otherwise, her HD combos become far more easily (and a bit more damaging) if she has over three meters.
    Here is a Dream Cancel podcast on Elizabeth, constructed by three awesome KOFXIII players well known as Desmond Delaghetto, The Answer, and Killey.
    Spoiler:
    https://twitter.com/Great_Dark_Hero http://ask.fm/Great_Dark_Hero
    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • 武俠派武俠派 燈火闌珊處 Joined: Posts: 537 ✭✭✭
    Question for experienced Liz players, is it impossible to cancel her QCF+K into QCF+P? It's easy to cancel her back sliding move into QCF+P but her front slide always results in a DP. Can anyone shed some light on this?
  • AirLancerAirLancer Just a touch of Honey Joined: Posts: 513 ✭✭✭
    Try tking the qcf. It'll prevent dp from coming out. Can also be used to run up and qcf.
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  • 武俠派武俠派 燈火闌珊處 Joined: Posts: 537 ✭✭✭
    Sorry I'm kind of new to the KOF scene and don't know the terms well enough yet, what does "tking" mean?
  • AirLancerAirLancer Just a touch of Honey Joined: Posts: 513 ✭✭✭
    tiger knee. Originates from Street Fighter. End the qcf with up-forward instead of forward.
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  • 武俠派武俠派 燈火闌珊處 Joined: Posts: 537 ✭✭✭
    That seems to work, thanks, but I was hoping I could get it to come out as soon as the slide starts. I had an idea to use the slides to mess with the opponents heads but it's not as easy as I thought.
  • 武俠派武俠派 燈火闌珊處 Joined: Posts: 537 ✭✭✭
    A question about the ending of Elisabeth's team, so potential spoilers below.
    Spoiler:
  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    武俠派 wrote: »
    A question about the ending of Elisabeth's team, so potential spoilers below.
    Spoiler:

    Might be something friendship-related because Ash used to be on good terms with Betty, Duo, and Shen. I'm not really sure what else it could be.

    Now to speak a little about personal experiences with Betty as of yesterday in Ramstein, Kaiserslautern casuals... For some reason, I'm finding it easier to perform Betty's mid screen combos by looping DP+A into QCF+A. At the corner, the player will have to cancel into QCF+C instead for a little more damage. Our girl Betty here can rack up over 700 damage off of 2 bars, but you just resort to EX QCFx2+P.
    For a short review, here are some good meter-less combos to start off with are:
    1). cr.B, cr.A (or st.A), QCF+A. (Remember that QCF+A has quite a bit of push back on block - also, for this specific combo you need to very close to the opponent).
    2). Close st.C, f+B, DP+C, DF+A, jumping D (or any jumping Heavy normal - you will still get the reset anyhow. Always keep in mind that you can go for her QCF,HCB+P super for the Anywhere). This is a good mid screen combo.
    3). (corner) Close st.C, f+B, DP+C, QCF+C, DP+A, jump D (or any jumping Heavy normal).

    It would be a good idea to take advantage of Betty's jumping B towards the grounded opponent. Very annoying pressure tool.
    As of now, I am trying to put a little more emphasis on Betty's counter series for punishing mistakes off of reckless opponents.
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    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • Shooting Star RockmanShooting Star Rockman Jaded Joined: Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭
    武俠派 wrote: »
    A question about the ending of Elisabeth's team, so potential spoilers below.
    Spoiler:

    They have already lost their memories of Ash (or everything that happened during the Tales of Ash Saga) at that point as a result of the temporal paradox. As for the promise, it's probably related to this ending:



    The promise they made is that they'll meet and team up again.
  • 武俠派武俠派 燈火闌珊處 Joined: Posts: 537 ✭✭✭
    Oh poor Betty, poor poor Betty and Ash. (T︿T)
    I should start learning Ash and put him on my team with Betty.
  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    Snip

    ... That's just sad. They never quite got around to teaming up together again after 03. Duo apparently got suspicious of Ash after 03, so Elisabeth contacted him and Benimaru to join up with her in KOFXI... Then after KOFXI, Shen started noticing Ash's changes (hence the trick he pulled on Shen and Oswald in their ending in XI).

    This really doesn't help Betty at all, since both her and Ash practically grew up together.
    Note that Elisabeth's Team theme song is called "Each Promise".

    BTW, love the Megaman X avatar (Megaman fan here).
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    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • Shooting Star RockmanShooting Star Rockman Jaded Joined: Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2013
    If there will be a sequel to XIII it's very likely that it'll be a dream match game, so we'll probably see more of Ash in the future. It's been a tradition of sorts that there will be a dream match game at the end of each arc with KOF '98 after the Orochi saga and 2002 after the NESTS arc.

    Why is that all dream matches have Rugal as the final boss?
    Post edited by Shooting Star Rockman on
  • YorKeYYorKeY Hellooooooo Joined: Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭
    edited October 2013
    EDIT: Nevermind i found the order i like!
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    Melee: Marth/Sheik


  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    Uploaded a 2 bar HD combo on Elisabeth's behalf.
    https://twitter.com/Great_Dark_Hero http://ask.fm/Great_Dark_Hero
    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    Elisabeth Safe Jumps/Set ups!


    Neat stuff about Elisabeth's QCB/QCF+BD
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    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    edited October 2013
    Just uploaded two new 2 bar HD combo variants:


    Post edited by Great_Dark_Hero on
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    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • blufangblufang Darkstalker for life Joined: Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is my first KOF, my team is Duo Lon, Liz, K. I'm a complete noob to this game (bought it Friday) and KOF in general, any beginner tips on what to work on with Liz first?

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  • LouiscipherLouiscipher The man you love to hate Joined: Posts: 8,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seems to be putting her first, build meter, try to get in with that SRK+C move or jump in.

    An okay first character but she has a lot of disadvantages.
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  • blufangblufang Darkstalker for life Joined: Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought Duo Lon should always be first if he is on your team? Right now I have Liz in the middle spot, K at the end.

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  • LouiscipherLouiscipher The man you love to hate Joined: Posts: 8,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Liz can't do a lot with meter. Not the same way that K' and Duo can anyway.
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  • blufangblufang Darkstalker for life Joined: Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
    But Liz has massive TOD combos, I thought that was the whole point of her character along with her parries. Duo Lon builds meter super fast but is a low damage character.
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    blufang wrote: »
    But Liz has massive TOD combos, I thought that was the whole point of her character along with her parries. Duo Lon builds meter super fast but is a low damage character.

    If you are new to KOF, don't worry about team composition yet. There is also a tutorial on Elisabeth provided by JuiceboxKing. But, keep in mind about the KOF fundamentals:
    http://dreamcancel.com/how-to-play/
    http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=King_of_Fighters_XIII

    I've also organized some FAQS on KOFXIII for new players and players coming from different games:
    http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=The_King_of_Fighters_XIII_FAQS

    Be sure to watch this video on Elisabeth when you get the chance:



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    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • blufangblufang Darkstalker for life Joined: Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow thx for all those resources! Those faq pages had a lot of tips. Juicebox tutorial is very informative, I love the character of Liz much more now that I know how those specials and supers really function. Already I felt she played really unique, unlike any character I've ever played in any other fighting game. That's why I picked her. Hopefully she isn't really too much for a beginner, cause I'm definitely not dropping her even if she takes really long to be competent with. A few questions.

    1. With the short cuts, are those really better/easier? The QCB,HCF or QCF,HCB motions seem more fluid than the shortcuts.
    2. Any high level liz match play? Who is the best Liz player right now?
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  • blufangblufang Darkstalker for life Joined: Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm having a hell of a time trying to cancel her command dashes into specials, is there some shortcut for this?
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    @blufang To answer your question you should see a series of short cuts on the Dream Cancel wiki in the following link:
    http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=The_King_of_Fighters_XIII

    Also, here is a relatively recent video, addressing the Elisabeth vs Mr. Karate match up:
    https://twitter.com/Great_Dark_Hero http://ask.fm/Great_Dark_Hero
    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    Uploaded a better combo series sample for Elisabeth:
    https://twitter.com/Great_Dark_Hero http://ask.fm/Great_Dark_Hero
    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    edited March 24
    This is a follow up from the last upload - For the 2 bar combo, one more DP+A was added:

    Post edited by Great_Dark_Hero on
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    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    https://twitter.com/Great_Dark_Hero http://ask.fm/Great_Dark_Hero
    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    Below is what happens when you start a combo from far st.D HD Activate far st.D.


    So from personal experiences... it is important to keep in mind that hop j.B is really nice. After j.B cross ups, confirm the hits with cr.B, st.B... if the opponent blocks... stop the block string. If the opponent is getting hit, follow up with a special move.
    (Keep in mind that qcf+A has a lot of push back on block). If the opponent starts getting too defensive, it would be a good time to attempt a throw/command throw (hcb,f+P] but please be on the look out for alternate guard and prepare to go for another normal when applicable. Try not to get forget about her counter specials either - her qcb+A (or EX version) works very well against jump ins. It is also important to scare the opponent with qcf+P's due to it's relatively quick start up, safety on block, and it hit box... use this in moderation.
    Personally, I use meter for EX qcf / qcb+K. The reason behind this is because during the EX version of Elisabeth's command movement, if she cancels into her special moves they will automatically come out as EX moves as covered earlier in the thread (and it will still also count as one meter burned). She is also invincibility for a short period during the dash. Most players will also resort to finishing combos with her qcfhcb+P move thanks to it's anywhere juggle state property, the hard knockdown, among other things. (Actually, both of her supers are pretty useful for finishing combos. It is possible to use them as reversals but they are obviously risky and need to be used in moderation. Otherwise, you just combo into them for good damage). Other EX moves in Elisabeth's arsenal help Elisabeth dish out damage because they cause juggle states for extended combos, giving the player more lead way for what to do when meter is available - see Juicebox's video for reference.
    The notations for the 2 Bar HD combo are, as follows:
    [Corner] close st.C, f+B, BC, close st.C, f+B, dp+C, qcf+C, dp+A HDC qcf+C, qcf+C (x4), dp+A, qcf x2+AC = 776 damage (if you start this combo with j.D, it is 804 damage. If you start the combo with far st.D HD far st.D, you get 795 damage).
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    It is time to learn the ways of Elisabeth Blantorche!!


    Towards 1:42, you should notice something cool... and weird.
    She used DP+P to pass through Athena's fire ball to hurt Athena's zoning game at the mid range. Earlier on in the match Elisabeth will do this twice in a row. That's definitely something to keep in mind when fighting against characters with a projectile like that. A lot of people really underestimate Elisabeth, but the same could be said for a multiple group of characters.
    After passing the execution barrier in her long term juggle combos, she becomes rather fun to play!
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    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    Check out the three following links below:
    Spoiler:

    Something funny.
    http://www.twitch.tv/ngent/c/4356223

    After watching each of these and from personal experiences in offline matches against others, I am starting to realize how wild Elisabeth's jumping B is. I love it.
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    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
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  • KilleyKilley Game Over Yeeeaaaahhhhh Joined: Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭✭
    Elisabeth isn't really underestimated. She's got tricky tools and can run a train against people who aren't familiar with her but the same could be said for a ton of other character as well. She's terrible in XIII due to character and system changes but she's definitely fun to play.
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    I'm aware of that.
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    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    With that said, we will have safe jumps and set ups.

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    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
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  • Great_Dark_HeroGreat_Dark_Hero "No Mai, No Buy" - Says the idiot who doesn't even play KOF. Joined: Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    Some decent Elisabeth game play over here:
    https://twitter.com/Great_Dark_Hero http://ask.fm/Great_Dark_Hero
    KOFXIII = Terry / Mai / Hwa (SUB): Kyo95, Leona, Takuma/Mr.Karate, King, Daimon
    TTT2 = Julia / Kazuya (SUB): Michelle, Heihachi, Bruce, Armor King, Xiaoyu
    DOA5U = Mila (SUB): Pai, Helena, Nyotengu, Hayabusa, Zack
    Also playing a whole lot of KOF98(UM:FE), KOF02UM, 3S, Yatagarasu, Darkstalkers Resurrection
    Learning about KOFXIII? Click on my FAQS here
    Learning Mai Shiranui (or the Mai match up) on KOFXIII? Start here

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