The Best of The Best

SpaceOutNightmareSpaceOutNightmare Stays Sandbaggin'Joined: Posts: 2,351
THE BEST OF THE BEST(XBL AND PSN)
Yo, SRK, this is Spaceoutnightmare, and as some of you may know, this is a thread primarily to hold over all the fuckers who keep asking for the goddamn patch duke it out for the month long title "The Best of The Best".
This tournament will span a month.
4 WEEKS!
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna ask a few people for help in this (in general), and if they agree, I will put their names up here, so when I'm offline and you need to ask a question, you can go to them.
Week 1:Signup phase (Saturday, Sept. 15-Saturday, Sept. 22)
This week will consist of well, sign ups.
We will work out brackets, systems, and times for everyone to play.
Week 2:Teams
Teams, TEAMS ONLY, I MEAN THAT.
If you can't play with a team, hold that shit, and wait until the next 2 tournies.
XBOX LIVE TEAMS BRACKET
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PS3 TEAM BRACKETS
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Week 3:Solo
Solo, SOLO ONLY, I MEAN THAT.
If you can't play solo, hold that shit, and well, you had a tourny, and there will be one after this.
BRACKETS FOR THIS WILL BE UPDATED HERE
Week 4:Free For All
SOLO, TEAMS, IT DON'T MATTER, GET DAT "W".
The last tournament in the series, you've all had time to analyze each other, and can now play your way, bullshit and gimmicks won't fly at this point.
BRACKETS FOR THIS WILL BE UPDATED HERE
SETUPS
Depends on how many people sign up over this week, but since I don't have an Xbox, I'm gonna get someone who does to oversee that shit.
Each will be done Round Robin style, with the winner getting 5 points, loser gets 2 points, and draw (such as actual draws and internet lag) is one point, if you really want to play, you can request someone you haven't played yet a game and if they agree, those results will be used, if not, you get 1 point.
The person with the highest points by the end of the series will be the winner, simple, right?
As signups are finished phase 1 of this tournament is officially over.
I will update this thread for people to talk to other than me about any details I may have missed.
PEOPLE TO TALK TO:
Naphaniel(XBL)
Evilweeve(XBL) (He's helping out, whether he likes it or not.) (Can't spell names)

Zidane(PSN)
Thinking about redoing BOB tournament for the patch, anyone game?
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Comments

  • SteelyHawkeSteelyHawke Get down to business Joined: Posts: 1,146
    You neglected to mention whether this would be something for season's beatings or online.

    Parasoul is my main if online, but I would opt for teams(Peacock and Parasoul) if possible.
  • Broseidon RexBroseidon Rex God of the Brocean Joined: Posts: 118
    Perhaps have a similar tournament for those on Xbox360?
  • SpaceOutNightmareSpaceOutNightmare Stays Sandbaggin' Joined: Posts: 2,351
    Perhaps have a similar tournament for those on Xbox360?
    I don't think I ever said it was for Ps3?

    We're going to have brackets for both.
    Thinking about redoing BOB tournament for the patch, anyone game?
  • Broseidon RexBroseidon Rex God of the Brocean Joined: Posts: 118
    Apologies. I read your signature and saw only a psn and no xbox gamertag. So I assumed and made a grave error. Carry on. I could attempt to represent Cerebella, but I don't know if I can be considered the best yet.
  • evilweevleevilweevle Xbox GT : MrFossy Joined: Posts: 4,275
    it should for sure be 1 v 1 for these. the game is totally different when you dont have an assist backing you since you need to be much more careful using unsafe stuff in your hitconfirms whereas on a team you just throw out your assist and youre good.

    im confident in my cerebella abilities. may as well put me down for fortune as well although im not as good with her.
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  • IllusTreyteIllusTreyte Joined: Posts: 79
    ohhhhh ohhhhhhh if possible plz record these matches i really wanna learn you guys

    i mean see you guys play :)
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  • VulpesVulpes No. Joined: Posts: 3,678
    Uh, so you decide who is the best <X> player by running 1v1 Mirrors?
    Why.
  • ZidianeZidiane KPB team member, SRK writer Joined: Posts: 1,225
    Uh, so you decide who is the best <X> player by running 1v1 Mirrors?
    Yes. Basically, decide who is the best <X> with mirrors of everyone who thinks they are the best with her, until there is an <X> champion. After that, an 8 man, double elimination bracket with the best of the best.

    If someone wins with multiple characters, they must forfeit for one of them if they meet in that final bracket.
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  • ArachnofiendArachnofiend Double Uzis and a Wink Joined: Posts: 2,058
    So basically "the player who is best at the character who doesn't need assists wins".

    Hi there, Ms. Fortune.
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  • SpaceOutNightmareSpaceOutNightmare Stays Sandbaggin' Joined: Posts: 2,351
    So basically "the player who is best at the character who doesn't need assists wins".

    Hi there, Ms. Fortune.
    No character needs assists.

    I got blown up by a solocock a few days ago.

    If someone likes Alexis wins, it's just because he's too fucking scary.
    Thinking about redoing BOB tournament for the patch, anyone game?
  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    Uh, so you decide who is the best <X> player by running 1v1 Mirrors?


    and online?
    Yes. Basically, decide who is the best <X> with mirrors of everyone who thinks they are the best with her, until there is an <X> champion. After that, an 8 man, double elimination bracket with the best of the best.

    If someone wins with multiple characters, they must forfeit for one of them if they meet in that final bracket.
    no offense, but this is a terrible way to decide who is 'the best' at anything in any game.
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  • evilweevleevilweevle Xbox GT : MrFossy Joined: Posts: 4,275
    So basically "the player who is best at the character who doesn't need assists wins".

    Hi there, Ms. Fortune.

    uummm no, because you would be playing fortune vs fortune mirrors not fortune vs everyone else.
    and online?


    it would pretty much have to be really. a lot of us arent gonna have good connections with each other though is my concern.
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  • ArachnofiendArachnofiend Double Uzis and a Wink Joined: Posts: 2,058
    I was responding specifically to Zidiane, who seemed to be under the impression that there would be another 1v1 tournament to decide the "best of the best" after deciding the "best".
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  • evilweevleevilweevle Xbox GT : MrFossy Joined: Posts: 4,275
    ^^
    oh right.

    personally i think we should basically just play to whatever number you feel happy with to make sure results are as accurate as can be, although it should be at the very least best of 5.

    Im gonna try and go FT10 in any of my games though (maybe FT7 if time/connection is an issue)
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  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    I think this could be fun, but I don't think it will prove anything about anyone.

    A) I can only get a decent connection with about 4-5 people on here. I assume that's the same for other people as well. Some characters (mainly Parasoul) simply can not operate at full capacity online. Using Parasoul as an example, she has far too many links in her simple bnbs for online play at anything other then optimal connection. Heck, even the timing required on her j.lp, one of her biggest branches off of her mixup game, requires super strict link timing. I understand its the only way to have a tournament, but there are too many variables

    B) Mirror Matches are a really bad way to sort out brackets. You aren't proving whose the best with the character, your just proving who's the best at a 50/50 matchup. This is ESPECIALLY true for characters like Cerebella. Sure, (X) player was better against bella with bella, but maybe (Z) player who lost to said Bella is stronger against EVERYONE else in the game then (X). If you guys want to do this, I would strongly recommend doing mixed brackets.

    C) By making it solos only, you might steer away a lot of the top talent that plays this game. A lot of people come from a Marvel 2 background who play, and simply just want to play their teams as they have worked hard to optimize their synergy. I am not saying I am top by any means, but I for one simply don't really have any interest in playing this game 1v1, and I know a few others who would share my sentiments.


    I am not trying to be a dingus and be all like "AHH DON'T DO THIS"

    I think this would be a very fun idea, but I think because of the variables introduced by the format, it shouldn't be taken seriously as to 'prove' anything.
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  • evilweevleevilweevle Xbox GT : MrFossy Joined: Posts: 4,275
    but I for one simply don't really have any interest in playing this game 1v1, and I know a few others who would share my sentiments.

    i understand what you mean with this but in a lot of matches you will actually end up going 1 v 1 even if you started in teams after the other characters have been killed. I did a bunch of 1v1s recently with a guy on my friend list and it was very enlightening to say the least and pretty enjoyable too. people get too used to using an assist to cover a move with long recovery and its a real bad habit to get into when you are down to your last character. plus it improves your neutral game a lot if you dont have a crazy good assist to help you get in/get folk off you like NP/updo/hornet.
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  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    i understand what you mean with this but in a lot of matches you will actually end up going 1 v 1 even if you started in teams after the other characters have been killed. I did a bunch of 1v1s recently with a guy on my friend list and it was very enlightening to say the least and pretty enjoyable too. people get too used to using an assist to cover a move with long recovery and its a real bad habit to get into when you are down to your last character. plus it improves your neutral game a lot if you dont have a crazy good assist to help you get in/get folk off you like NP/updo/hornet.


    I was referring simply to a tournament, competitive setting. I practice just playing solo, I am not saying its not a good thing to do, and that it wouldn't be fun, but in a tournament setting, its poop if you want the tournament to be properly competitive.

    It just sounds like they are trying to do a 'whacky' tournament (which is fine, I have entered many, like in ST sometimes we will run Zangief only), but at the same time have it be 'serious'. But you can't have both. And it CERTAINLY wouldn't prove who's best with a character.
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  • guitalex2007guitalex2007 Joined: Posts: 3,025
    This can have its usefulness if we were going to do tier lists for solo characters, but that's like doing a tier list of MvC2 characters by themselves.

    So allow me to predict what's going to happen.

    Fortune
    Double
    Parasoul
    Cerebella
    Painwheel
    Valentine
    Filia
    Peacock

    Do I get a cookie?
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  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    This can have its usefulness if we were going to do tier lists for solo characters, but that's like doing a tier list of MvC2 characters by themselves.

    So allow me to predict what's going to happen.

    Fortune
    Double
    Parasoul
    Cerebella
    Painwheel
    Valentine
    Filia
    Peacock

    Do I get a cookie?

    I think this is good for offline, but online I think PW and Bella are higher then parasoul, due to her link timing in order to actually do any kind of damage.
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  • palipali PSN:Heavyjugz Joined: Posts: 976
    I'll play anyone for the following solo.

    Parasoul
    Peacock
    Painwheel
    Double
    Filia

    Also i think the connections wont be a major factor i usually have a decent connection with everyone. Mirrors aren't really a 50/50 depending on how good the person with the character is it will always show in the match.
  • palipali PSN:Heavyjugz Joined: Posts: 976
    If people just really love their team we can also do Same Team Vs That Team.
  • P. GorathP. Gorath @ButtonMashLA Joined: Posts: 6,772 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    If it's not USA vs Korea, its not Best of the Best.
  • view619view619 ざわ ざわ ざわ Joined: Posts: 1,796
    Obviously, this isn't supposed to prove anything. Space is just trying to get some event going during the wait time for the patch. Unless this is actually supposed to determine a temporary tier list, which would be silly imo (online with a limited set of players). Either way, enjoy.
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  • SpaceOutNightmareSpaceOutNightmare Stays Sandbaggin' Joined: Posts: 2,351
    Obviously, this isn't supposed to prove anything. Space is just trying to get some event going during the wait time for the patch. Unless this is actually supposed to determine a temporary tier list, which would be silly imo (online with a limited set of players). Either way, enjoy.


    Ssshhhh.

    Also:WHY FUCKERS BE ASSUMING THINGS?

    Did I ever say it was Cerebella V. Cerebella=The best Cerebella?

    I am still thinking (and discussing with others) how brackets will work.
    Thinking about redoing BOB tournament for the patch, anyone game?
  • Age_of_FoolsAge_of_Fools Joined: Posts: 706
    if it's a long term event you could do it round robin style and show who's best at each matchup
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  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    Make it teaaaaaammsss more people will plaaayyyyy
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  • SpaceOutNightmareSpaceOutNightmare Stays Sandbaggin' Joined: Posts: 2,351
    Make it teaaaaaammsss more people will plaaayyyyy
    Keep your ideas to yourself.

    Until you get my pm.
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  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    keep ideas to my self? on a forum? doesn't hurt to share ideas ;)
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  • SRKmindSRKmind Joined: Posts: 57
    Whatever it is I'm in. I somehow have not played anyone on here even once.
  • evilweevleevilweevle Xbox GT : MrFossy Joined: Posts: 4,275
    Make it teaaaaaammsss more people will plaaayyyyy

    how many people play exactly the same teams though is the thing.

    if its mixed characters/teams it would just be a regular old tourny.
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  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    if its mixed characters/teams it would just be a regular old tourny.

    EXACTLY
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  • evilweevleevilweevle Xbox GT : MrFossy Joined: Posts: 4,275
    EXACTLY

    like the ones that were meant to be weekly and then faded into obscurity after maybe the second week (at least on xbox anyway)
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  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    Yes! Like those ones!

    Like, the purpose of the tourney is to establish this:
    This tournament will basically be deciding who the best of each character.

    You simply can not achieve this decision by having a a completely ratio 1 tournament.

    As GuitarAlex pointed out, this would be useful maybe for looking at tier listings for Ratio 1 characters, but really nothing else.

    This game is built around the options of having assists, so if you have a 1v1 tournament, you are eliminating a large amount
    of the variables that makes somebody 'good' with a character.

    Like I said, its really cool and sweet if people want to do a 1v1 tournament, but I think it would be more interesting to have something more competitive.
    This would also create more approachable media to show off to peeps if someone is able to record, somehow.
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  • guitalex2007guitalex2007 Joined: Posts: 3,025
    As GuitarAlex pointed out
    Ms. Fortune is great. Everybody likes a little head action every now and then.
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  • NephinelNephinel Jill - Mistress of Wyverns Joined: Posts: 705
    I might join in; I'm pretty much still a beginner at this game (at least with Parasoul) so I could use the experience...

    Any way this tournament goes, I'll just be glad to have more folks to play with.
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  • ZidianeZidiane KPB team member, SRK writer Joined: Posts: 1,225
    Game is built around both teams and solos. Solo's are weaker atm, but they are an option you have to look at somewhat seriously. It's not like MVC2, where you could choose a single character if you wanted, so making that comparison is wrong. Besides, playing solo can really highlight your weaknesses; it helps to show you exactly what areas you overly rely on assists for, and help you come up with ways to compensate.

    sides. tournament is better than no tournament.
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  • Jet Set DizzyJet Set Dizzy Night of the Defender Joined: Posts: 2,270
    I can probably enter as Bella. I'm certainly not the best but it would be fun.
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  • girlystylegirlystyle Only plays Fugazi Joined: Posts: 1,804
    Game is built around both teams and solos. Solo's are weaker atm, but they are an option you have to look at somewhat seriously. It's not like MVC2, where you could choose a single character if you wanted, so making that comparison is wrong. Besides, playing solo can really highlight your weaknesses; it helps to show you exactly what areas you overly rely on assists for, and help you come up with ways to compensate.

    sides. tournament is better than no tournament.

    But playing a solo tournament is sucking so much diversity out of the game.
    The comparison isn't really all that wrong, since the comparison made was:
    This can have its usefulness if we were going to do tier lists for solo characters, but that's like doing a tier list of MvC2 characters by themselves.
    which is true. any results the tournament produces are null and pointless since a HUGE factor of the game was, for some reason, not implemented.
    Besides, playing solo can really highlight your weaknesses; it helps to show you exactly what areas you overly rely on assists for, and help you come up with ways to compensate.

    there is another side to that coin, where playing playing with assists can really highlight your weaknesses, it shows you exactly where you fall prey to a huge factor of the game, and ways to compensate.

    I know you play solo, but its not like people who play teams don't have to learn how to deal with assists, or that everyone who uses them doesn't know how to use their characters properly. We have to deal with assists just as much as anybody else, so that point is pretty moot.

    And like I said, I think most importantly we could create a good opportunity to create some media to show people a true representation of the game. we don't very many opportunities to do that.
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  • 0chocolachao00chocolachao0 Your Drunk Roomate Joined: Posts: 160
    Okay, I'll join in on the tournament too.

    Hope I don't get knocked out in the first round. o_O
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