"Death by Degrees" - The Nina Williams Thread

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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I've been able to do ws1 reps a lot better after upgrading to the Crown cwj lever. I believe the main difference from the Sanwa jlf is because the lever hits the directional inputs faster and it rolls off easier for me since it's an octogate.

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    "Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth." ~ Bruce Lee
  • |Galen||Galen| In iWS1 I trust! Joined: Posts: 230
    Your sanwa has an octogate? Honestly now what i have played on Korean sticks i don't think I could go back to a Japanese lever even if it had a perfect 360 gate
  • YannickYannick Max Range Panta Rhei Joined: Posts: 4,464
    :eek: Great guide, Galen.

    TZ and its users are stepping it up recently with lots of updated information compiled intelligently in an easy-to-digest format. Great stuff.
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Your sanwa has an octogate? Honestly now what i have played on Korean sticks i don't think I could go back to a Japanese lever even if it had a perfect 360 gate
    I"m using the Crown now, The Sanwa was the stock square gate configured in all the TEs. The few extra milliseconds of time that the crown neutrals probably makes a difference overall since I react a certain way after I see the end of Nina's arm swing from ws1 lol.

    It's weird but the korean lever made a big enough of an impact for me.
    "Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth." ~ Bruce Lee
  • |Galen||Galen| In iWS1 I trust! Joined: Posts: 230
    I hope Korean levers take over. I mod a fanta into everything I get
  • SYN.ChuckSYN.Chuck Joined: Posts: 29
    So, how would I go about making combos for a team of Nina/Lars? I've learnt the solo's for both, but I don't know what moves and enders I should be doing when TA is involved.

    I've scoured TZ but I cant' find any concrete answers, hopefully by asking on a smaller board I can get a better response.
  • |Galen||Galen| In iWS1 I trust! Joined: Posts: 230
    So, how would I go about making combos for a team of Nina/Lars? I've learnt the solo's for both, but I don't know what moves and enders I should be doing when TA is involved.

    I've scoured TZ but I cant' find any concrete answers, hopefully by asking on a smaller board I can get a better response.


    When did you ask on tz?

    Anyway your TA is going to directly depend on what combo you use with your point character. What combo are you using with Lars and what combo are you using with Nina?
  • Sanada-kunSanada-kun Joined: Posts: 684
    So, how would I go about making combos for a team of Nina/Lars? I've learnt the solo's for both, but I don't know what moves and enders I should be doing when TA is involved.

    I've scoured TZ but I cant' find any concrete answers, hopefully by asking on a smaller board I can get a better response.

    On youtube look for Only Practice. He is a Korean player who uses Nina/Lars I think there r some his matches on the first page of this thread some of his combos r harder than most tho.
  • p.m novaroad pilotp.m novaroad pilot Joined: Posts: 2,483
    I know it least for nina
    you dont need to tag assault that much
    she can do like upper 80s or low 90s with solo combos

    really most times you tag assault it should be at the wall


    with lars if you use nina for tag assault for a low amount of hits pre bound you use df 3,2,3
    for around 5 hits of more you should use ss1, f2

    though someone else here would have a sharper idea of what you do i think
  • |Galen||Galen| In iWS1 I trust! Joined: Posts: 230
    If your 5th hit is the blind move you should use f433 for your TA
    Then post TA with Lars ff2~f SE f1
  • SYN.ChuckSYN.Chuck Joined: Posts: 29
    When did you ask on tz?

    Anyway your TA is going to directly depend on what combo you use with your point character. What combo are you using with Lars and what combo are you using with Nina?

    I didn't ask to be fair, but I viewed every thread that I felt was pertinent to my question.
    On youtube look for Only Practice. He is a Korean player who uses Nina/Lars I think there r some his matches on the first page of this thread some of his combos r harder than most tho.

    I have been watching his matches and picking up things since I got the game (last week), but I get the impression that his combos are above my station, for now at least.
    I know it least for nina
    you dont need to tag assault that much
    she can do like upper 80s or low 90s with solo combos

    really most times you tag assault it should be at the wall


    with lars if you use nina for tag assault for a low amount of hits pre bound you use df 3,2,3
    for around 5 hits of more you should use ss1, f2

    though someone else here would have a sharper idea of what you do i think

    OK. That sounds about right anyway, since I know Nina has great wall carry capability.
    If your 5th hit is the blind move you should use f433 for your TA
    Then post TA with Lars ff2~f SE f1

    I didn't understand any of this :) but thanks anyway.
  • |Galen||Galen| In iWS1 I trust! Joined: Posts: 230
    Syn, what are you using as combos right now?
    Solo Lars
    Solo Nina
    It will be a lot easier to tell you what to use as a TA if we know what you're using as a combo. For example if you're doing
    Nina / Lars
    d/f+2 d/f+3,2 SSR1~b~u/f+4 iWS1x3 1+4 B! you're not going to get anything worth while for a TA. You're just going to give the opponent rage and take off your own red health.

    f+1+2 df1 df3~DE1 f,b2,1~5 f+4,3,3 iSW
    OR
    f+1+2 df1 df3~DE1 f,b2,1~5 f+4,3,3 ff+2~f SE1
    With Lars on point like this doing a TA isn't too too terrible since it adds about 16 damage. With Nina on point she doesn't have anything that can wall carry or damage scale post TA when she does her own max damage juggles so it doesn't make sense for her to use TA.
    At the wall:
    W! f,b+2,1~5 4,3,d+4,3 d/f+1 f+4,1,2,1
    W! d/f+1 1+4~5 1+2~b f+4,1,2,1 SS1~b~u/f+3
    W! d/f+1 1+4~5 1+2~b f+4,1,2,1 f+1,2,f+1+2

    Anything in bold will be done from Nina and anything normal will be done from Lars.
  • Sanada-kunSanada-kun Joined: Posts: 684
    edited February 2013
    I have recently started using d+2,3 as my B! ender instead of ff+3 I just dont see a reason 2 use ff+3 anymore other than it's easier. Nvm I just realised ff+3 is used mostly in WS+1 combos
  • |Galen||Galen| In iWS1 I trust! Joined: Posts: 230
    Sanada, it's b! iws1 ff3 and yes it's off the 7 hits prior to b!
  • |Galen||Galen| In iWS1 I trust! Joined: Posts: 230
    edited February 2013
    Blah. Double post!
  • Sanada-kunSanada-kun Joined: Posts: 684
    Great podcast Galen. Learned a lot from listening to u guys. The rant about drivers at the end was hilarious as well lol.

    I will probably be creating an account on TZ soon since it seems like more people frequent there 
  • isoulhackerisoulhacker Joined: Posts: 5
    edited March 2013
    MATCH FRO ME AND OMAR


    160 DAMGE ON WALL


    from saudi arabia :P
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  • LordXav1erLordXav1er Joined: Posts: 41
    New to the boards, nice to meet more Nina's. A lot of good information so far here :)
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  • |Galen||Galen| In iWS1 I trust! Joined: Posts: 230
    Welcome to the boards.
  • DiarDiar Cali free stylin Joined: Posts: 122
    I need some guidance with Heihachi/Nina team. I'm fairly new to the 3d side of fighters. I want to know how well does this team synergy works. I'm having the most trouble with what filler ta moves I'm suppose to use when tagging in Nina. Also, Nina's wall hit combos too.
    SaviorMeister - your morigan is nice movements
  • |Galen||Galen| In iWS1 I trust! Joined: Posts: 230
    I'm sorry about the late reply on this, and I'm not extremely keen on Hei, BUT I can tell you anything you need to know about Nina.
    The best advice I can give for this team is to get a solid graps on multi iWS1 combos. Really you just need to stick to those when it comes to dealing damage in this game. For example:
    Hie to Nina
    [hie]EWGF~5 [nina] u/f+4 iWS1x6 1+4 B! WS1 ff+3 That's going to deal something like 100 damage and be ALL red life. You're likely to get a wall hit in there too just because of the incredible wall carry that Nina gives.

    Also you're not going to add incredible amounts of damage by doing a TA in the open when Nina is doing the bound just because she does so many hits within the combo. It's best to avoid giving the opponent rage and keeping your own red life to gain back.


    For normal combos you can try these:
    [nina] d/f+2 QCF1~5 [hie] d/f+1 b,f+2 d+1~5 [nina] SSR f+4,3,3 [hie] u/f+3,4
    [nina] ws2~5 [hie] f+3, df+1, b,f+2, d+1~5 [nina] SSR f+4,3,3 [hie] u/f+3,4

    [hie] ewgf~5 [nina] u/f+4 iWS1x6 1+4 B! WS1 ff+3
    [hie] ff+2~5 [nina] d/f+3,2SSR1~b u/f+4 iWS1x3 1+4 B! WS1 ff+3


    Nina Solo Wall
    Post B! Low W! d/f+1 u/f+3
    Post B! W! 1 d/f+1,2,f+1+2
    Pre B! W! d/f+1 1+4 B! SS1~b~u~f+1,2,f+1+2
    Pre B! Low W! 1+4 B! SS1~b~u~f+1,2,f+1+2


    I'll research some TA stuff for you but I'm guessing this will work
    [hie] W! d/f+1,2~5 [nina] 4,3,d+4,3 [hie] $1 b+3,3
    [nina] W! d/f+1 1+4~5 [hie] d/f+1,2 [nina] SS1~b~u/f+3

    The TA stuff might not work and I'm just going off assumptions, but I'll mess around with the team and see what I can dig up... again sorry about the late reply
  • |Galen||Galen| In iWS1 I trust! Joined: Posts: 230
    Ohhh man...
    My new Magic 4 combo is the tits!!!

    M4 [dash] 1 iWS1 SSR d/f+1 iWS1x4 (ender of your choice for either damage/wall carry/ta or whatever)
  • crucadescrucades Its a Kinda Bullshit Joined: Posts: 10,983
    Startin to see a lot of Nina badassery on Rev now, she is pretty damn tough with those jumping spinning kicks to shin kick bs qq
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    the invincible moves give a nice kick to everything but I prefer TTT2 version :o
    "Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth." ~ Bruce Lee
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