Interview : SFxT is Tokido's actual main game + his "tier-list"

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SGCafe just put online an interview with Tokido conducted at TGS 2012. In this interview, he talks about his team in TTT2, how he stopped playing P4U and he says that SFxT is his main game at the moment.

He shares his thought about who are the most powerful characters in the game.
[SIZE=14px]—I see. Are you still playing Street Fighter X Tekken?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px]Yes, in fact that’s my main tournament game right now, because of the Street Fighter 25th Anniversary.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px]—Now that the new characters for Street Fighter X Tekken are out, who do you think are the top for characters in SFxTK?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px]Of the new characters, Cody is really strong. And after the patches, Dhalsim is strong too, especially now that Ryu has become weaker.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px]And then… Rolento is still very strong. And of course, Chun-Li is top-tier.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px]So my top four are (not in any specific order), Cody, Dhalsim, Rolento and Chun-Li. Ryu, although not as good as before, is still very good.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px]—That’s an interesting list. A while back Sako said in a Famitsu SFxTK column that his top four picks were Ryu, Ken, Kazuya, and Rufus.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px]Yes, that was before the patches. Now, a lot has really changed in the game.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px]—What criterion do you look at when determining if a character is strong or weak in Street Fighter X Tekken?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px]Mostly I look at the reach of the attacks, and whether the moves are safe from a distance or can be punished from far away.[/SIZE]

You can get the rest down here : http://sgcafe.com/2012/09/mcztokido-im-no-longer-playing-persona-4-arena/
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  • The Lone DragonThe Lone Dragon perverted feminist Joined: Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭
    Haha, I was just about to post this here in its own thread :)

    You go, Tokido.
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,274 ✭✭
    "Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth." ~ Bruce Lee
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  • VicioushellsingVicioushellsing Joined: Posts: 422
    I am honestly happy I didn't succumb and pick up P4. I was on the fence about it but work pushed me to not buy it. And with how many games are out I am just happy I was able to skip one.
    Heres hoping for psylocke DLC. *crosses fingers*
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  • rokninroknin Keeps Trying Joined: Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am honestly happy I didn't succumb and pick up P4. I was on the fence about it but work pushed me to not buy it. And with how many games are out I am just happy I was able to skip one.

    I honestly wanted to get P4A, looks damn fun... but essentially timing and resources turned the situation into "either P4A or TTT2".

    Then GGAC got announced for XBL/PSN. :oops:

    I know, I don't want to be one of "those guys", but GG is still my favorite ASW game by a large margin, and there's just too much out right now and I'm knee-deep in SFxT and TTT2. Just not enough time/money. :shake:
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,274 ✭✭
    That article title is the stupidest thing I've read following the entire article. Has nothing to do with the main scoop of the interview and it's down right insulting to use as an attention grab.

    Back to the interview's main topic, it'll be interesting to see where the SFxT audience goes after they are done grinding for the car. The main thing going for them is the money and car prizes.
    Not enough people understand enough of the SFxT metaplay and thought process. It's hidden by the slower moving actions sometimes, I don't blame people if they say it's boring but yeah... what's going to happen after the SF25 finals? We'll see. And P4A is fine. Two button reversals are not all made equally either.
    "Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth." ~ Bruce Lee
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  • jae hoonjae hoon Flames of Justice Joined: Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lol at the misleading topic, SFXT is only his main because of the ridiculous money Capcom is throwing at it in the tournament. Lets face it the game is dead, just let it die.
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  • JiBboJiBbo AutoMattock Joined: Posts: 1,386 mod
    Lol at the misleading topic, SFXT is only his main because of the ridiculous money Capcom is throwing at it in the tournament. Lets face it the game is dead, just let it die.

    I don't get it. Why do people who never post here suddenly pop up just to say the game is dead? This post was reported but it's pointless for me to give you a warning. Thread topic has nothing to do with some type of resurrection, whether the game is dead or whatever. It's just a relevant article where Tokido mentions SFxT and why he's playing it.

    If you want the game to die or don't like it, more power to you. Stop wasting space this side of the forum.
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  • TatsujinkenTatsujinken tragic hero Joined: Posts: 854
    [SIZE=12px][SIZE=14px]—I see. Are you still playing Street Fighter X Tekken?[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=14px]Yes, in fact that’s my main tournament game right now, because of the Street Fighter 25th Anniversary.[/SIZE]
    tokido confirmed not to be pure of heart

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  • SongiSongi Raw launcher warrior! Joined: Posts: 1,334
    tokido confirmed not to be pure of heart

    would not be able to ride on nimbus
    Don't you want more easy prey to feast on?
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  • Maverick Hunter XMaverick Hunter X Great risks, as well as endless possibilities Joined: Posts: 602
    He's a sponsored professional gamer, he'll prioritize profit above everything else.

    I'm looking forward to a pro gamer who would say he plays the game not because of the prizes but because he enjoys it.
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  • rayplayrayplay aka solidoutlaw Joined: Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭✭
    Personally, Arcsys fighters are just my favorite fighters (except for VF which I'll always love). So P4A is taking up a lot of my time away from SFXT, but I still intend to focus on both games (and Blazblue if we don't get Guilty Gear soon in the US, though I have no intention of dropping BB entirely). On topic, glad to know some pro players still are taking this serious enough to be their main game. But I can't say I fully agree with his top 4.
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  • VicioushellsingVicioushellsing Joined: Posts: 422
    If lambda 11 isn't in the new BB I will skip it. She was the only character I enjoyed playing. GG on the other hand I am all over. SFxT will definitely be put down for a couple weeks when that comes out.
    Heres hoping for psylocke DLC. *crosses fingers*
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  • ThancruzThancruz Joined: Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We all know how this is gonna turn out. "lol, dead game" "just let this game die" and watch people bring back the classic "Well I don't like or play this game but......"
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  • SongiSongi Raw launcher warrior! Joined: Posts: 1,334
    Personally, Arcsys fighters are just my favorite fighters (except for VF which I'll always love). So P4A is taking up a lot of my time away from SFXT, but I still intend to focus on both games (and Blazblue if we don't get Guilty Gear soon in the US, though I have no intention of dropping BB entirely). On topic, glad to know some pro players still are taking this serious enough to be their main game. But I can't say I fully agree with his top 4.
    He named off Chun Li and Cody...good enough for me who cares about the rest of the cast as far as top tier? I really can't tell you besides Kazuya who would belong up there with those 2 juggernauts.
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  • The Lone DragonThe Lone Dragon perverted feminist Joined: Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭
    I'd like to point out that SFxT isn't the only game in the SF25th anniversary competition, and yet he specifically mentioned SFXT as his main.

    I'd also like to point out another quote from the article: "In general I buy every single fighting game for consoles when they come out, but if a game turns out to be “no good game”, then I stop playing."

    Put 2 and 2 together, and it's pretty clear that he isn't JUST playing SFxT for the money.
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  • Intuitive2011Intuitive2011 Cr.Mk XX Hadoken Joined: Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd like to point out that SFxT isn't the only game in the SF25th anniversary competition, and yet he specifically mentioned SFXT as his main.

    I'd also like to point out another quote from the article: "In general I buy every single fighting game for consoles when they come out, but if a game turns out to be “no good game”, then I stop playing."

    Put 2 and 2 together, and it's pretty clear that he isn't JUST playing SFxT for the money.
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  • The Lone DragonThe Lone Dragon perverted feminist Joined: Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭
    Lol, I should know better by now.
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  • Maverick Hunter XMaverick Hunter X Great risks, as well as endless possibilities Joined: Posts: 602
    I'd like to point out that SFxT isn't the only game in the SF25th anniversary competition, and yet he specifically mentioned SFXT as his main.

    I'd also like to point out another quote from the article: "In general I buy every single fighting game for consoles when they come out, but if a game turns out to be “no good game”, then I stop playing."

    Put 2 and 2 together, and it's pretty clear that he isn't JUST playing SFxT for the money.

    I envy your optimism. I hope you're right on that one as it makes sense. :)

    I literally frowned when I read the "...because of the Capcom 25th anniversary" part. :(

    I really don't want this game to die. This is the game which made me take fighting games seriously.
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  • The Lone DragonThe Lone Dragon perverted feminist Joined: Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭
    To be honest, I question the longevity of any fighting game these days.

    Or, maybe I question the MEASUREMENTS of longevity. Local tournaments and local gatherings...I'm starting to wonder if those are accurate guages anymore. I mean, KOF13 supposedly "stole the show" at EVO...and, yet, I would hesitate to say that KOF13 is a wildly popular game right now (and, that's coming from someone who loves KOF). Heck, KOF13 is at Season's Beatings, while SFxT is not. I guess that means more people play KOF13 than SFxT in the United States. Would you bet your life on that? I certainly would not. Same with Skullgirls, which is apparently a side tournament.

    I don't know, this whole community seems more interested in appearances than reality.

    MVC3 sold a fraction of the copies that MK9 sold. UMVC3, even fewer. But, if you asked the "communiity" what the bigger game was, the answer would be MAHVEL BABY. This is, like, FACTUALLY WRONG. But, no one cares. Marvel gets higher tourney numbers, so I guess that means more people play Marvel overall. Right.
    I really don't want this game to die. This is the game which made me take fighting games seriously.

    SFxT is already dead. Haven't you heard? It's been dead since March. It doesn't matter if people are still playing it. The fact is that people just aren't playing it.
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  • LordWilliam1234LordWilliam1234 Not Human Joined: Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SFxT is already dead. Haven't you heard? It's been dead since March. It doesn't matter if people are still playing it. The fact is that people just aren't playing it.

    Your Street Fighter X Tekken ignorant hater impression needs some work...

    Speaking of ignorant haters...my friend still continues to bash the game, but I have come to the conclusion that he's just bashing it because everyone else is bashing it. He stated that no one plays the game anymore...I told him that wasn't even close to true, there are plenty of people that still play the game. He says "those people don't exists."

    Then, I ask him straight up why Street Fighter X Tekken is a bad game. He says, and I quote;

    "Street Fighter X Tekken is just so random. DP equals half your life gone. The window for teching throws is small so you have to see throws coming in order to deal with them. That's so dumb! The game is just totally random, the only way to win is by being more random."

    I try to explain how he's being ignorant, that you can bait DPs and punish them even harder than if they did connect with the DP, the game is not random, it really rewards smart play rather than random play...he then just says "It's still a terrible game."

    I then boot up the game and tell him to try it, saying that I'm sure if he actually plays the game he'll like it, and that random play doesn't work here. He then just says "No, it's a terrible game. I'm never going to play it."

    It's hard to be a defender of this game sometimes...but I don't care. Much like I've done with Tatsunoko vs Capcom, and Soul Calibur II...I will continue to play them. I will continue to practice.

    I will defend Street Fighter X Tekken until the very end.
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  • view619view619 ざわ ざわ ざわ Joined: Posts: 1,686
    snip

    Fuck defending. Just play.
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  • LordWilliam1234LordWilliam1234 Not Human Joined: Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Screw defending. Just play.

    Well, sometimes I feel that I need to inform the haters of their misinformed opinions.

    Then I realize how futile it is against many of these ignorant people and just go back to playing...
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,274 ✭✭
    SARCASM

    HOW DO WE HAS IT
    "Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth." ~ Bruce Lee
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  • Captain AlgeriaCaptain Algeria Joined: Posts: 10
    HaHa, just found this interview of Daigo at TGS 2012 when I was searching on Youtube for Tokido vs Fuudo exhibition.

    I don't understand moonspeak but he seems to say that he's playing Super Street Fighter IV, Tekken, Soul Calibur and ... Street Fighter x Tekken... Can somebody translate it?



    Note : HaHaHa, if it's confirmed, seems that Daigo bandwagons are coming back to the game pretty soon. :D
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  • Captain AlgeriaCaptain Algeria Joined: Posts: 10
    I just found a video of the Tokido x Fuudo exhibition at TGS 2012.

    You can check it down here (it starts at 2h54m and ends at 3h30) :
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  • TZATZA Joined: Posts: 187
    Very surprised Gief and Cammy arent in his top 4, especially with the last part describing a strong SFxT character (which I 100% agree with)
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  • Juri_kills_friend!Juri_kills_friend! Leader of the Lili Army Joined: Posts: 2,032
    All but one of the characters, Cody, all beat gief clean.
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,274 ✭✭
    HaHa, just found this interview of Daigo at TGS 2012 when I was searching on Youtube for Tokido vs Fuudo exhibition.

    I don't understand moonspeak but he seems to say that he's playing Super Street Fighter IV, Tekken, Soul Calibur and ... Street Fighter x Tekken... Can somebody translate it?



    Note : HaHaHa, if it's confirmed, seems that Daigo bandwagons are coming back to the game pretty soon. :D
    Strong trap presence.
    "Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth." ~ Bruce Lee
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  • rokninroknin Keeps Trying Joined: Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did they just do 1279 dmg with Ryu/Boxer in that exhibition? FFFFFFfffffffffffffffuuuuucckk
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  • SimSimIVSimSimIV 2nd. in command of the SFxT Defense Force Joined: Posts: 1,242 ✭✭
    Did they just do 1279 dmg with Ryu/Boxer in that exhibition? FFFFFFfffffffffffffffuuuuucckk
    Sigh... If only something like this happened at EVO!:(


    oh wait.
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  • chaoslimitschaoslimits Death by snu snu Joined: Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭
    Strong trap presence.
    WTF! Really? Nah... Really?
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  • rokninroknin Keeps Trying Joined: Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oh wait.

    :rofl: true true true.
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,274 ✭✭
    WTF! Really? Nah... Really?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayana_Tsubaki

    Ayana%2BTsubaki%2B(3).jpg




    And now we derail this thread!!
    "Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth." ~ Bruce Lee
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  • chaoslimitschaoslimits Death by snu snu Joined: Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayana_Tsubaki
    And now we derail this thread!!
    If I ever go to Japan, I'm gonna need a trap detection belt.
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  • LoyalSolLoyalSol Baton Rouge, Lousiana Joined: Posts: 5,496 mod
    I'd like to point out that SFxT isn't the only game in the SF25th anniversary competition, and yet he specifically mentioned SFXT as his main.
    It's the only one with a car though.

    The question will be if he continues to play it after the 25th is over.
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,274 ✭✭
    There's a strong online scene for the game even in Japan despite the complaints early on. Look at the online replays for both systems leader boards.

    We didn't even know he was online warrioring it up under gameinn for super sf4 really on until he admitted it

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  • NegativeEdgeNegativeEdge Not a G Joined: Posts: 152
    SFXT is a great game. Way more options than SF4 and once you learn them, SF4 just feels kind of dry.
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