*The "padhacking" thread*

TheRealNeoGeoTheRealNeoGeo ArcadepartsJoined: Posts: 3,150
I thought a pad hacking/pad info thread should be started so that everybody can see where to solder on different pcb´s.
If you want a picture added please write in the thread.



***Microsoft***

Xbox:

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/xbox_diagram1.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/xbox_diagram2.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/xbox_diagram3.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/xbox_diagram4.jpg


Xbox 360:

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/360_diagram1.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/360_diagram2.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/360_diagram3.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/360_diagram4.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/360_diagram5.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/360_diagram6.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/360_diagram7.jpg

http://akihabarashop.jp/images/ChImpHookUp360Full.jpg
Chimp with Madcatz Xbox 360 PCB.

http://akihabarashop.jp/images/IMPconnection.jpg
MCC with Madcatz Xbox 360 PCB and Imp PCB.



***NEC***

Turbo Grafx 16:

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/tg_diagram1.jpg



***Nintendo***

Nintendo Entertainment System (NES):

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/nes_diagram1.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/nes_diagram2.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/nes_diagram3.jpg


Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES):

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/snes_diagram1.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/snes_diagram.jpg


Nintendo 64:

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/n64_diagram1.jpg


Nintendo GameCube:

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/gc_diagram1.jpg



***SEGA***

Sega Genesis:

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/gen_diagram1.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/gen_diagram2.jpg


Sega Saturn:

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/sat_diagram1.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/sat_diagram2.jpg


Sega Dreamcast:

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/dc_diagram1.jpg



***SONY***

Sony Playstation 1:

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps1_diagram1.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps1_diagram2.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps1_diagram3.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps1_diagram4.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps1_diagram5.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps1_diagram6.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps1_diagram7.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps1_diagram8.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps1_diagram9.jpg


Sony Playstation 2:

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps2_diagram1.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps2_diagram2.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps2_diagram3.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps2_diagram4.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps2_diagram5.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps2_diagram6.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps2_diagram7.jpg


Sony Playstation 3:

http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps3_diagram2.jpg
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/pcb_diagrams/ps3_diagram3.jpg
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Comments

  • Demon DashDemon Dash Hyper Viper Raccoon! Joined: Posts: 5,880
    Nice idea. Pad hacking is one area I've always wanted to venture (I say always, but I mean more since I got into sticks), but obviously lack of skills gets in the way. I'm happy with my knowledge of sticks atm, as far as wiring and general knowledge goes I'm perfectly fine. Hopefully in a couple of years I'll be on my way to cutting my own cases and soldering things my self, but right now it's way too much and far too expensive for me to get into.
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  • SomSom Joined: Posts: 794
    the black stuff that you colored blue and red... do you solder directly onto that? it doesn't stay on even if i put flux on it. or am i supposed to take that off somehow first?
    o.O
  • RickstahRickstah chubby chubby Joined: Posts: 677
    Scrape the black stuff off with an exacto knife or something similar, and it should have a gold type of medal underneath it to which you can solder onto.
  • KnuckledustKnuckledust THE NEW GUY! Joined: Posts: 299
    Great idea, I'm glad this exists.
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  • SomSom Joined: Posts: 794
    alright thanks, im gonna try that
    o.O
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    ill post pics up of the sf:ac pad later. i need to go buy a new cam first.
  • nmbr1krushnmbr1krush Namijon Joined: Posts: 1,374
    Thank you for this.
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  • leavealleaveal not in it for the $$ Joined: Posts: 602
    great idea.
    "Get one that is programmed to never play rap/hip-hop/R&B."
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  • final_cutfinal_cut All day long Joined: Posts: 2,084
    Thanks, I'm gonna try that H-series hack this weekend. I always depend on someone else to do it for me. I didn't know that image even existed!
    RIP Ol' Dirty
  • Dj_MatrixDj_Matrix Joined: Posts: 554
    lol... geo man i was just fixing to do this too... just got me a new sony t9 6.0mp camera and i was hacking like crazy... altho i dont do xbox so thats great man... good shit
  • Paik4LifePaik4Life Team HnI Joined: Posts: 1,212
    As usual, Per takes the initiative to help out the building community. A very comprehensive list of PCBs.

    ~Paik
  • OngBakOngBak Joined: Posts: 91
    Paik, where do u buy your wires from? I'm looking for 26 gauge wire. My area don't have them.
  • TheRealNeoGeoTheRealNeoGeo Arcadeparts Joined: Posts: 3,150
    What xboxcontroller should one use when doing custom sticks you guys think? Pros and Cons?
  • Paik4LifePaik4Life Team HnI Joined: Posts: 1,212
    You know what I think, Per : )

    Reflex Arcade:
    Pros: Very easy hack. Everything is labeled. All buttons/directions have their own grounds. Can be done solderlessly. Headset functionality. Small PCB.

    Cons: Harder to find controller. Rather expensive when you factor in shipping (about $20). Solder points are pretty small compared to easier hacks.

    1st Party (Regular or S):
    Pros: It's a first part PCB so optimal compatibility and reliability.

    Cons: Both are rather hard to hack because of the triggers and small solder points. Also it is a lot more difficult to hack the memory card/headset slot. Also still very expensive PCB. A larger sized PCB.

    Ongback: I don't buy 26 gauge wire. I'm assuming you looked at RadioShack. If you can't find it there, your best bet is to probably find it online like eBay or Vectorplus. I use 22 gauge and it's easily found at RadioShack in both solid and stranded in at least 3 different colors.

    ~Paik
  • Demon DashDemon Dash Hyper Viper Raccoon! Joined: Posts: 5,880
    I dont think I'll actually be doing this now, but could someone tell me what I'd need and how much it would cost for a nice starter pack for hacking pads? I honestly don't know what I'd need besides a soldering iron.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    TheRealNeoGeo:
    i'm biased here. cause i simply love the sf:ac pad for xbox for pad hacking. i'll definately up some pics today of the inside of my pad. it's so super to hack and solder. NO ANALOG STICKS! makes for a VERY slim profile; so whether you decided to toss it in a project box or toss it into your stick casing, it's perfect. As a matter of fact, i suggest it for both xbox and ps. price is wicked aswell. $10.00USD.

    Demon Dash
    read above what i posted for TheRealNeoGeo. $10.00USD pad. $7.00USD Radioshack iron. $3.00 solder. i used a 30watt iron. also, spilt solder on this pad is very easy to clean up.


    to everyone
    i forgot to mention that the headset slot is easy as well. cutting the pins and extending them is no problem at all.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    as promised. the inside of the sf:ac pad for xbox.

    with some simple diagrams i put in.

    http://www.disillusioned-inc.org/sfacpad_dpad.png
    http://www.disillusioned-inc.org/sfacpad_button.png

    remember to zoom in. (that is, if your browser scales them down.)

    sorry it took so long. my friend gave me his old sony mavica 3.2 camera. no one sells mini cdrws anymore. and this camera can't be hooked up to just take pics an transfered. so i had to buy some minicdrs (sucks cause i can't erase).

    but the pics came out wicked clear :)
  • BIG BEEF!BIG BEEF! Joined: Posts: 1,635
    Anyone got a pic of a PS controller M
  • TheRealNeoGeoTheRealNeoGeo Arcadeparts Joined: Posts: 3,150
    pxldtz
    Does that controller have memorycardport on the top of it?
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    TheRealNeoGeo
    actually no. the memory card port is on the bottom. like the xbox360 control.
    i'm going to be doing another box this week strictly for xbox. so no db25 adapter on it. i'll take pics of how i wire up the headset/memory port.
  • TheRealNeoGeoTheRealNeoGeo Arcadeparts Joined: Posts: 3,150
    pxldtz
    How is it with other games on xbox, works 100%? Does it work emulatorgames played on xbox also?
    Oh, so it is possible to talk with headset when playing LIVE on it?
    And when you hack it you do not need resistors like on the usual Xboxpad and Xbox S-Pad?
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    TheRealNeoGeo

    i haven't tested it on other games really. I tested it on that Outrun game, but the game itself wouldn't go past the LOADING screen with the control plugged (before the soldering in retail condition) so i'm guessing that games that actually need the sticks will have problems. so any games that don't work with the actual sf:ac stick won't work with this i guess.

    it's good for emulators no problems. there's only ONE THING that i don't really like. since there are no thumbsticks, you can't press r.thumb to bring up the menu (90% of emulators on xbox use this button to bring up the ingame menu i havent checked if this can be changed.) i have a separate control in player 3's slot for this so its not a very big problem.
    well i play on xlinkKAI (modded xboxes get banned from live) and the headset works fine.
    so it wouldn't be any different than live. it would work fine on there to.
    no resistors needed at all. drop-solder-plug-n-play. the triggers are pure digital not pressure sensitive or analog.
    if you have any more questions go ahead and ask. i'll be happy to answer.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I hacked a couple Madcatz microcon controllers. I'd say those were the easiest pads to hack ever. I only did the xbox ones, maybe the ps2 one is just as easy. It has huge holes in the pcb to solder to and has a shared ground. Nothing better than that!:wgrin:
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Stellarola

    do you have any pics of this pad hacked and soldered? price? availability? anything special needed like adding resistors? ( ie. like the oem xb control ) or is it straight solder and thats it?
    i'm trying to pick up as many hackable pads as possible before all the xbox ones disappear.

    and yes, a shared ground is awesome :)
  • Bare Knuckle 2Bare Knuckle 2 one inch thrust Joined: Posts: 147
    Anyone know of any hacks for PC Pads?
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  • KingbuzzoKingbuzzo Joined: Posts: 152
    Doesn't the official DC pad have lag issues with L+R?

    It would make much more sense to use a 3rd party controller that uses c+z instead of L+R, like the madcatz controller, or the agetec pcb.

    We should also include the A series dual shock since it's a simple solderless mod.

    I'll try and get some pics of my hacked model 1 saturn pad.
    have you played KOF 98 today?
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    BareKnuckle 2

    i love you avatar. also, if you build a stick from a psx/psone pad you can get a lagfree adapter from radioshack for $6 (no drivers needed in xp).
    if you build one from an official xbox pad you can use the xbcd drivers if you make a usb adapter. a spare usb mouse and an xbox extension cable is all thats needed.
    i'll let you know if those drivers work with the sf:ac pad for xbox.
  • Bare Knuckle 2Bare Knuckle 2 one inch thrust Joined: Posts: 147
    pxldtz wrote:
    BareKnuckle 2

    i love you avatar. also, if you build a stick from a psx/psone pad you can get a lagfree adapter from radioshack for $6 (no drivers needed in xp).
    if you build one from an official xbox pad you can use the xbcd drivers if you make a usb adapter. a spare usb mouse and an xbox extension cable is all thats needed.
    i'll let you know if those drivers work with the sf:ac pad for xbox.

    Thanks for the comment on the avatar.I already have a radioshack adapter that I've tried using with my Hori Real Arcade Pro but it lags. If using a psx/psone pad gets rids of the lag then I guess I'll have to build a stick from it. Thanks.
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  • BIG BEEF!BIG BEEF! Joined: Posts: 1,635
    So does anyone Have the lay out for a playstation M serious non analog control???????
  • TheRealNeoGeoTheRealNeoGeo Arcadeparts Joined: Posts: 3,150
    http://arkadesticks.com/hackedpads/xboxpcbmicro.jpg
    I think this is the Microcon from Madcats, for Xbox.
  • NiteWalkerNiteWalker For me it was Friday. Joined: Posts: 1,668
    BIG BEEF! wrote:
    So does anyone Have the lay out for a playstation M serious non analog control???????

    I've seen 3 or 4 different digital ps1 pad pcbs all by sony. It's pretty easy to find the traces needed.
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  • UltraDavidUltraDavid commenta..ttorney?? Joined: Posts: 6,053
    How do you hack this thing? I have whatever PS2 controller came with my PS2, just the regular ol' regular PS2 controller, but it has this crazy ribbon thing in it. I think I know where I'd solder if I were to just solder wiring straight to the ribbon, but my guess is that there's something different about this.
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  • MayhemMayhem Mostly Harmless Joined: Posts: 577
    Anyone have experience with the Mad Catz MicroCon pads for Xbox 360 or PS2? Some seriously tiny PCBs would make my upcoming stick project much easier for me.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    TheRealNeoGeo

    do have experiences wiring the thumb buttons? does the microcon need a resistor or anything one the stick like the OEM s ? also, if you have them, can you post a pic of how you would wire up the thumb.clicks to use a button?
    reason i ask is because all the emulators on my xbox use the r.thumb.click to access the ingame menu.
  • TheRealNeoGeoTheRealNeoGeo Arcadeparts Joined: Posts: 3,150
    pxldtz
    The Microcon does not need use of any resistors what so ever.
    http://flickr.com/photos/vr/sets/439496/

    I have never wired a button to the thumbstick"press-down"button, sorry.
  • leavealleaveal not in it for the $$ Joined: Posts: 602
    i guess this is the best place to ask this:

    i have two Agetec PCBs that are acting HELLA WEIRD. the Y button on one of them just doesn't respond anymore, even when i didn't do anything to the project box it was encased in. the other one is even weirder: the A button and the Start button seem shorted (i get taunts whenever i try to pause) but pressing the A button doesn't respond at all.

    i know they're broke because i switched them out for my other agetec pcbs and they were all good. also, i'm sure it's not the wiring because i didn't rewire the new PCBs. i just pulled the connectors off the old boards and plugged them into the new ones.

    anyone know what could be wrong with them?
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  • ParryPerson.ParryPerson. It is done. Joined: Posts: 4,011
    Great thread! Been waiting for this forever.
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  • chippermonkychippermonky Wonderland? Joined: Posts: 916
    wow, this therad rocks. THanks for the DC one, I was fretting about what to do with the analog. Seems a bit too simple though, do I jush short the upper left contact with ground? can anyone confirm?
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  • KabaLKabaL My yomi is better Joined: Posts: 1,075
    Like chippermonkey, i was waiting so long for a thread like this!!! im a very proud owner of a sega dreamcast, but as a fighting game fanatic, im not all happy with the controls... damn analogs!!!

    hey, someone posted that there were problems with the hacking of first party DC pads, like lagging with the L & R buttons... have someone experiencied this problem?
    If so, does he managed to solve it, without buying an 3rd party pad???
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  • hanz0hanz0 Devil Hanzo Joined: Posts: 774
    what is this thing with resistors you guys are talking about, cause ive done 2 sticks with xbox controller s and i did not know you have to put resistors in it:wtf:
    the sticks work fine, the only thing i dont know how to connect is the L & R buttons, most games dont use this but the ones that do requires you to use them to access something

    example: Guilty gear reload for xbox, you need to press i think L or R in order to access gold characters or something which is anoying cause i dont have the button on my stick and the option of changing the button to for selecting gold characters cannot be changed i think.

    example: KOF neowave Xbox- you need to press R button to access secret char, again this option cant be changed, and i dont have L & R:wasted:

    example: Mortal Kombat Deadly alliance you need to press L to input password something i cant do cause i got no L & R:wasted: :annoy:

    anyways i am wondering where exactly do i need to solder in the xbox controller S pad to get L & R, i know its no big deal and i can live with not having L & R but i am currently playing neowave and i cant select the secret characters:annoy:

    PS: anyone know where to solder in a HOTROD PC arcade stick PCB??? i got one cause i used the hotrod stuff to make my xbox sticks
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