The Sonic the hedgehog thread V.7 2017 Sonic Mania Out Now!!!!!!!

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  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 21,610
    OVA Sonic is my favorite animation style for Sonic, was super happy to see it used for Mania.
    It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,381
    Sonic Cartoon Hierarchy

    God tier - Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie (OVA) 1999
    Great tier - Sonic Boom (Cartoon Network, US/French Production) 2014
    Good tier - Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (DIC Production) (1993–1996)
    Sonic CD Animation Segments (from the game Sonic CD) 1993
    Okay tier - Sonic the Hedgehog a.k.a Sonic SatAM (1993–1994) (got demoted for influencing the more disturbing aspects of the Sonic Archie Comics)
    Awful tier - Sonic X (Anime television series/4Kids) 2003
    Dirt tier - Sonic Underground (Half-Assed continuation of the Sat AM World with none of the Sat AM only characters) 1999
    Worms in the dirt tier - Sonic Christmas Blast (Crossover between the DIC and Sat AM Shows with a Christmas theme) 1999
    Mr Popo's Shit tier - Affinity's Fan Fics
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  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 21,610
    I don't remember any disturbing stuff in the Archie comics.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,381
    edited September 26
    I don't remember any disturbing stuff in the Archie comics.
    I more disturbed with how the fan community ran with it than the comic it self.
    It gets many degrees more disturbing than MLP Porn.

    Ether way how would you rank the shows?
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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,930
    I don't remember any disturbing stuff in the Archie comics.

    Darksakul kinda blames the Sonic franchise for furries and moreso believes most of it comes from SatAM and the Archie comics.
  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,381
    Sonichuman wrote: »
    I don't remember any disturbing stuff in the Archie comics.

    Darksakul kinda blames the Sonic franchise for furries and moreso believes most of it comes from SatAM and the Archie comics.

    True, I try to disassociate the two in my head but its not working.
    And I can't find the brain bleach.
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  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 21,610
    Darksakul wrote: »
    I don't remember any disturbing stuff in the Archie comics.
    I more disturbed with how the fan community ran with it than the comic it self.
    It gets many degrees more disturbing than MLP Porn.

    Ether way how would you rank the shows?
    The OVA is my favorite and...well that's kind of it. I don't really like his silly loony tunes show, I didn't watch enough satAM to have an opinion, and I don't think Sonic X is very good. Never watched an episode of Sonic Underground cuz the concept is not Sonic to me, and I haven't seen Boom yet, just clips, but what little nice seen I like.


    So OVA
    CD
    Mania
    Don't care or have an opinion after that.
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  • ReggieHadokenReggieHadoken Power Up Joined: Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I didn't like the Sonic Boom cartoon at first but it really grew on me. I love how self aware it is. Plus we got freaking Vector.

    I didn't really like the Sonic OVA from 1999, but there are things I enjoyed like Knuckles in a hat, the killer soundtrack and the art style and animation. Speaking of this Sonic OVA...

  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,296
    New stage for classic Sonic, Casino Forest
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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,930
    Tyson Hesse was on the latest stream for Sonic


    skip to 24:50. They pretty much talk about the animation for Sonic Mania and do a Q&A with him. Not going to lie...never noticed Knux spinning on the ring in the lower left corner after Sonic comes out of Studiopolis Warp Ring.
  • ReggieHadokenReggieHadoken Power Up Joined: Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Found this synth, funk album a few days ago. Sounds like it came right out of the 80s. https://opussciencecollective.bandcamp.com/album/zoned
  • ReggieHadokenReggieHadoken Power Up Joined: Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Nice to see Eggman finally put that 300 IQ to good use.


  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,296
    Chemical Plant is coming back in Sonic Forces.
    http://gematsu.com/2017/10/sonic-forces-reveals-drill-wispon-chemical-plant-stage

    I'm not going to say no to another kickass remix to the stage's theme. Sonic Team should think about bring back some different classic stages. I want Starlight zone to come back.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,381
    Chemical Plant is coming back in Sonic Forces.
    http://gematsu.com/2017/10/sonic-forces-reveals-drill-wispon-chemical-plant-stage

    I'm not going to say no to another kickass remix to the stage's theme. Sonic Team should think about bring back some different classic stages. I want Starlight zone to come back.

    Not even putting in one of the most Goat of Sonic Stages can save that Dumpster Fire
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  • GasarakiGasaraki Joined: Posts: 8,782 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I mean, I love Chemical Plant but, again? Really?
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,748 mod
    The screenshots don't even look like it. The only reason you know it's Chemical Plant is because they tell you.
  • po pimpuspo pimpus Let's Hit the Climax! Joined: Posts: 25,793
    I doubt the remix is going to match up to Mania's version.
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  • GespenstRitterGespenstRitter The Enigmatic Gale Joined: Posts: 3,237
    d3v wrote: »
    The screenshots don't even look like it. The only reason you know it's Chemical Plant is because they tell you.
    It's got the trademark yellow floors.

    Also if it's gotten taken over and re-purposed by Eggman, you'd expect it to look different.
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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,930
    Like Po said...condering what we've heard of Green Hill in this game I wouldn't expect a remix of the original Chemical Plant theme in this game...for better or worse.



    Gonna be honest....I'm pretty eh on this. I hear what the guy is trying to do by even including some of the instrumentation from the Genesis from this but it's just lacking. The nod to Splash Hill at about 1:04 thats tossed in isn't helping it either.
  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 21,610
    Chemical Plant does not generate any hype in me.
    It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,748 mod
    d3v wrote: »
    The screenshots don't even look like it. The only reason you know it's Chemical Plant is because they tell you.
    It's got the trademark yellow floors.

    Also if it's gotten taken over and re-purposed by Eggman, you'd expect it to look different.

    I'd always assumed that the zone was something he built in 2 and Mania.

    Besides, the shots are missing the zone's main setpiece, which is the purple Mega Mack chemical goop.
  • ReggieHadokenReggieHadoken Power Up Joined: Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I realize I'm probably in the minority here and that's cool, but I'm still looking forward to Forces. That being said, SONIC TEAM, IF YOU'RE GONNA BERING BACK OLD STAGES, BRING BACK SOME DIFFERENT ONES! I mean, even the 3DS version of Sonic Generations had Radical Highway, Water Palace, Casino Night, Mushroom Hill and Emerald Coast, you know, Zones that weren't in the console/PC release. What about Bridge Zone, Underground Zone or Jungle Zone? Oh wait, those are from the Game Gear and Master System titles and those don't count for some dumb reason.
  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 21,610
    edited October 4
    If the gameplay in Force is on point then I'm there, I even like the idea of CAC as long as it has enough customizable content to really let me take advantage of it, I'm secure in myself to not let the Deviantart artists spoil something like this for me.

    But holy shit I am not interested in visiting Chemical Plant Zone again, there are tons and tons of other awesome Sonic Stages worth revisting instead if only because we've been back to Chem Plant twice now already. Where's Starlight Zone, or Spring Yard, Marble Guarden, Hilltop, Aquatic Ruin, fucking Ice Cap?

    Actually I really want to see this fucking zone again.



    Green Forest is the fucking shit. Awesome design, takes advantage of all of SA2s Sonic Mechanics in wayts that are really organic to the level design, and the theme is fucking awesome. I want a remix modern version of that head banger something fierce.

    But no, lets go to Chemical Plant Zone again -.-
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,748 mod
    Was surprised Ice Cap actually didn't make it into Mania. Would have been a great way to put it back in it's original place too, after Flying Battery, with the door from the ship that Sonic busts out of being used as the "snowboard".

    Speaking of revisting zones, as much as having too many of them was the main chink in Mania's armor, I'd still like to see some more revisted zones in an eventual Mania 2. Even if we get less of them this time (maybe just 4 revisted zones, instead of 4 new ones in Mania). There are a bunch of zones I'd like to see given the Mania treatment by the team.
  • ruthless_nashruthless_nash Joined: Posts: 2,124
    Theyre saving it for Sonic Mania 2 probably
  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird I am thou...thou art I Joined: Posts: 26,296
    Mania 2 should be all original. The original zones were the best part of Mania and they were the most creative stages we had in a Sonic game in a long time.
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  • DarksakulDarksakul Your lack of faith disturbs me Joined: Posts: 23,381
    Sonichuman wrote: »
    Like Po said...condering what we've heard of Green Hill in this game I wouldn't expect a remix of the original Chemical Plant theme in this game...for better or worse.



    Gonna be honest....I'm pretty eh on this. I hear what the guy is trying to do by even including some of the instrumentation from the Genesis from this but it's just lacking. The nod to Splash Hill at about 1:04 thats tossed in isn't helping it either.

    That made my ears bleed.
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  • ruthless_nashruthless_nash Joined: Posts: 2,124
    edited October 4
    I feel like doing a long review of this game but maybe Ill save it for another day.

    For me the level tiers are broadly (based on game):

    SnK Levels
    New Mania levels (except Titan Monach)
    Sonic 2 Levels
    Green Hill and Hydrocity
    Sonic CD

    The Sonic CD levels feel out of place. I understand why they were included as christen whitehead probably has a softspot for it (hence the ufo special stage) but they really are poor. Theyre waaay better than the original versions of course...
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,748 mod
    Yeah, Titanic Monarch feels like a slog. Definitely the worst of the four original levels. The stage gimmicks from the S3K bonus stages are nice, but I feel like it just goes on for too long.
  • ruthless_nashruthless_nash Joined: Posts: 2,124
    the other problem with titan monarch is it comes straight after metal madness which is thematically a similar idea. i.e something to do with eggmans base of operations.... contrast with:

    Sonic 1 - Labyrinth to Scrapbrain
    Sonic 2 - Metropolis to Sky Chase/Wing Fortress
    Sonic 3 - Ice Cap to Launch Base
    Snk - Sky Sanc to Death Egg.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,748 mod
    It's the Sonic CD love shining through. Taxmab probably put Metallic Madness there because of the perceived difficulty, since it's a final zone in its own right.

    Personally, I'd have swapped it with Stardust Speedway and have them put the actual Titanic Monarch robot in the background.
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  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,930
    Sonic Forces OST - Sunset Heights


    Composed and arranged by Ohtani with Eguchi on Piano
  • SonichumanSonichuman You're too sloooww!! Joined: Posts: 18,930
    Switch version of Forces is going to run 720p / 30 fps docked and in handheld...but the controls will run at 60hz
    https://www.dualshockers.com/sonic-forces-nintendo-switch-interview/amp/

    interesting....
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,748 mod
    So it seems that the recent patch from a week or so ago took out the Dunkey easter egg at least on non-Switch platforms.
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    Dunkey had an easter egg? What was it?
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