Strider_SpArtan, post: 7637168, member: 79157 wrote:
I try tiger kneeing moves, eg Hadouken etc, but OMFG I can't I JUST CAN'T.
Vulpes, post: 7639170, member: 57311 wrote:
Input . The extra travel time it takes for the stick to go till upback gives your character the necessary time to leave the ground, ensuring your input isn't read as a standard QCF.
Circus, post: 7670054, member: 69250 wrote:
With viper in ssfiv se you have to delay the attack button a bit. It's actually a super jump tiger knee and the game needs to register the sj before the burning kick comes out. The is also true for instant kunai with ibuki. You are essentially buffering the attack on the ground and attacking when you character enters the jump animation. This is only true for viper and ibuki.
Edit: an earlier comment alludes to this but this is the mechanic of why it works. In AE ibuki and viper have super jumps so because qcf up will buffer the super jump into the command, you have to adjust your input to allow the game to register that. You can tk akumas air hadoken, cammy's ex and regular cannon strike, and other things without the delay.
Circus, post: 7670590, member: 69250 wrote:
For sjc cancels, that might be true. The window for viper's seismo xx burn kick actually feels pretty wide. For sic tiger knee motions, like ibuki's instant air kunai its actually really wide open. You can delay it for like 10 frames and still get the kunai out. I haven't actually looked into the frame data but the buffer stays stored for a (relatively) long time.
Circus, post: 7671908, member: 69250 wrote:
My bad, I should've clarified. To do instant air kunai, you do the tiger knee motion with a delayed input on the punch button. The way the game reads the input triggers a SJ so it's both a TK and a SJ. I started doing TK motions in Guilty Gear XXAC with Dizzy's bubbles so when I hear Tiger Knee, I think of attacks that are supposed to be done completely in the air, but are buffered on the ground with 2147+atk or 2369+atk or Cammy's instant Cannon Strike of 2149+K. I suppose I never really thought of the Hooligan thing as TK'd because it's the only way it comes out.