Low Crush Research

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We know launchers crush low attacks. Crouching normals more namely.

But what some of you might NOT know is that it also crushes certain special moves and command moves that are in the low region or considered low.

In attempt to consolidate a list of these things, here we go. In addition to crouch attacks, there's at least one or two moves that can be crushed and they may or may not be widely used moves.

STREET FIGHTER
Abel
Change of Direction > Second Low (QCF+P > K)
Change of Direction > Finish Mid (QCF+P > P_K > P)
Change of Direction > Finish Low (QCF+P > P_K > K)

Akuma

Balrog

Blanka
All versions of Electric Attack (Hit P 5x*)

Cammy
Hooligan Combination > Razor's Edge Slicer (DB,QCF,UF+P > no input)

Cody

Chunli
Hazanshu *very specific) (HCB+K)

Dhalsim
Double Zoom Straight (F+HP)

Dudley

Elena
Mallet smash
Lynx tail

Guile
Sweep (c.HK; second leg sweep easy confirm on block)

Guy

Hugo

Ibuki
Sazan (DF+MK)
Neck Breaker (HCF+P)

Juri

Ken

M.Bison

Poison
Guard Cancel
Kissed by a Goddess (DP+K)

Rolento
Mekong Delta Attack (PPP)

Rufus

Ryu

Sagat

Sakura

Vega
Charge B, F+P

Zangief
Long Kick (DF+HK)

TEKKEN
Alisa

Asuka
Tsuwabaki (F+MP)
Leg Cutter 1st-3rd hit (DF+HK (> DF+HK (> DF+HK)))
Hyakujitsuko (s.MK > c.MP)
Whiplash Sacred Blade (f.MK > c.MK or b.MP > c.MK)

Bob
Pound Cake (DP+P > P)
Spinner Ball (HCF+K)
Panini Flip (HCF+K > 2K)
Granchi Cannon (DP+K > LP+MP)
Apres Sweep (DP+K > LK)
Cutting Coppa (DP+K > LK > LP+MP)

Bryan

Christie
All of her low specials minus wheel kick
Double Arm Stinger
Twister low kicks

Heihachi
Eisho Mon (F+MP)
Jichinsai (B+LK)
Hammer Punch (B+LP)
Muso Kageki (F+LP > HP)

Hwoarang

Jack-X
Rocket Uppercut (DP+P)

Jin
Right Roundhouse Punch (F, D, DF > MP)
Swaying Willow (Down+KK > MP_HP)
Right Sweep (Down+KK > MK_HK)

Julia
Baiyuan Sanshou (s.LP > B+MP > LP > LP)
Trickling Stream (B+MP > LP)
Slow Power Punch (F+MP)
Slow Power Punch to Low Kick (F+MP > LK)
Wind Roll Explosion 1st Hit (HCF+K > D+K)

Kazuya
Rising Sun MK/HK/EX low hits (QCB+K)
Sweep (QCB+KK > D+K)
Spinning Demon (F,D,DF > K (> K))

King
Jaguar Step into Water Surface Kick (KK > K)

Kuma
Every attack he does in Hunting Stance except for Big Tree (F+MP), all eat launchers and Feral Crouch will duck under them

Law
Baseball Slide (DF+MK)

Lars

Lei

Lili

Marduk

Nina
Creeping snake to left low uppercut (DF+LK~MP, D+LK~MP)
Creeping snake to Left low high kick (DF+LK~MP, D+LK~MK)
Skullsplitter (Reverse DP+P)

Ogre
Owl's Hunt (DP+K)

Paul
DF+HK
Sway MP (QCB+MP)

Raven
Alter Ego LK/HK/LK+MK/MK+HK (QCF+K)

Steve
Spin Low Hook (s.HK > c.MP_HP)

Xiaoyu
s.MP (far)
Double Map Sweep (AOP K)

Yoshimitsu
Flea to Sling Headbutt (Down+KKK > K)

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Toro

Kuro

Cole


What else do you guys know that gets crushed by raw launchers?
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  • Cody&Guy18Cody&Guy18 Joined: Posts: 1,081
    Jack - MP/HP DP
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  • SongiSongi Raw launcher warrior! Joined: Posts: 1,334
    Add Jack's DP to the list, all versions to my knowledge are raw launcher fodder.
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  • Joe_LewisJoe_Lewis w8wut? Joined: Posts: 298
    Suprise attack too
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    Rolento's roll
    Chun Li's Hazan shu (Need good horizontal reach on your launcher)
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,810 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Rolento's roll
    Doesn't that roll backward?
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    Hei's f+lk
    play unib
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    Doesn't that roll backward?
    Mekong delta attack is a roll forward: PPP -> P/PP
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  • BunnycapBunnycap Team NAH is killing good fighting games. Joined: Posts: 817
    Hazanshu can be low crushed?o_O

    Never again!:encore:
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,810 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Hazanshu can be low crushed?o_O

    Never again!:encore:
    Im testing around with it. I think what ppl are doing is just launching her normally. I don't see it hitting the active frames one bit.
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  • The Lone DragonThe Lone Dragon perverted feminist Joined: Posts: 3,790
    Yes, Chun's Hazanshu can be low crushed, but her hit box is so low that your raw launcher might whiff. At least it does for Christie and Elena.

    Speaking of those two, pretty much all of Christie's specials except for Wheel Kick can be low crushed.

    Her Double Arm Stinger overhead can be low crushed.

    Her Twister low kicks can be low crushed. (Also, you can backdash out of her Twister low kicks after you block the first one.)

    EVERYTHING from her handstand stance can be low crushed.

    Also, her Tekken chains with the low/overhead mixups at the end can be low crushed. She has a couple ways to punish this, though. She has ways to punish all this stuff, but it's good for people to know this.

    And, with Elena, her Mallet Smash can be low crushed. So can her Lynx Tail. I can't remember if her Spin Scythe can be, too. Probably.
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  • tatsunicaltatsunical tragic hero Joined: Posts: 863
    during my early tests, i've had success crushing chun's hazanshu with the following characters' launchers: bob, dhalsim, heihachi, jin, julia, ken, kuma, rolento, rufus, vega, xiaoyu, and zangief

    *note: with jin, you're aiming to connect with the second hit of his launcher. with vega, the launcher must be done extremely late or else it will whiff like everyone else's. also i have not tested this with the release of DLC characters, so you guys are welcome to pick up where i left off

    some contributions:

    i tested heihachi's f+LK and it is NOT launchable. perhaps this is an error. you can definitely launch his f+MP and the followup of his f+LP -> HP string though.

    the followup of asuka's f+MK -> cr.MK string is launchable, as well as her b+MP -> cr.MK string. this is useful to know as these strings can be CADC'd from cr.MK to leave her + on block

    nina's skull splitter (reverse dp+P) is launchable

    bob's apres sweep (special step -> LK) is launchable. you can even launch him in between apres sweep -> cutting coppa (apres sweep -> LP+MP) although the timing is quite strict. at the very least it's something to discourage bob players from using it for free chip damage

    anyway, great topic. i have a feeling that this kind of information will be very important to know if the game ever evolves towards high level. i believe players will be able to start launching against certain moves on reaction
  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,810 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Good stuff, will update OP with it.

    This topic should cover a new base of tactics when people learn to stop fishing chains. Low crush combos are so good.
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  • Vulcan HadesVulcan Hades Flea Stance Tea-bagging Joined: Posts: 1,842
    I approve of this thread. :tup: Good idea to have a list of things that can be raw launched because some are definitely not obvious..
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  • The Lone DragonThe Lone Dragon perverted feminist Joined: Posts: 3,790
    Also, Cole's jumping attack thingy that looks like an overhead, but actually hits low.

    That's low crushable.
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  • Shooting Star RockmanShooting Star Rockman Jaded Joined: Posts: 1,246
    Ogre's Owl's Hunt is raw launchable, as proven here:



    I've only tested it with Juri and Ryu (Ryu's not recorded but it works), but I guess it would work with other characters unless their launchers works differently (such as Jin's). I don't think there are any Ogre players who would do a raw Owl's Hunt, but hell.
  • rokninroknin Keeps Trying Joined: Posts: 4,925
    Ogre's Owl's Hunt is raw launchable

    ...did not know this brb going to blow up some online ogres asap

    In all seriousness, I'll try to put in some lab time with my characters this week to see if there's some odd things of theirs that are launchable as well.

    One of the greatest things about this game is raw launcher. So satisfying.

    EDIT: Also, you'd be surprised. I usually deal with it by (eventually) just blocking it once I see they like it a lot. Provided I can do this consistently, this will be soooooo much more satisfying lol.
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  • Shooting Star RockmanShooting Star Rockman Jaded Joined: Posts: 1,246
    Owl's Hunt is just too unsafe. You don't even have to raw launch to punish it. Good Ogre players will use the move when their opponent least expects it. I'll check later if there are other stuff that can be raw-launched. I doubt if I could apply them though as my reactions are sloppy, as shown when I raw launched too early with Ryu. :(
  • WantonxWantonx Mooseknuckle Sammich Joined: Posts: 2,111
    Can Guy's slide sweep be raw launched? I've only played a few of them but failed when I tried it.
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  • SongiSongi Raw launcher warrior! Joined: Posts: 1,334
    Can Guy's slide sweep be raw launched? I've only played a few of them but failed when I tried it.
    Yeah it can be raw launched. Just requires reactions because it's so fast. Same with Alisa's slide that moves at ridiculous speed.
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  • FlyingVeFlyingVe Best Poster of All Time Joined: Posts: 13,217
    I wouldnt wast too much time trying to raw launch a move that can be blocked and punished.
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,810 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Can Guy's slide sweep be raw launched? I've only played a few of them but failed when I tried it.
    Yeah that's crouch roundhouse, all crouch normals are raw launchable. It doesn't have to hit low, even crouch jabs and fierces will lose.
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,810 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I wouldnt wast too much time trying to raw launch a move that can be blocked and punished.
    That's true. Maybe you don't want to lose grey life at that point yet with the 2013 nerfs. But we are on the subject of low crushing, so it is feasible for our situation here.

    Low crush->Char B comes in, sweeps in 150-200 damage, end with another launcher and bring back char A for Oki for free.
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    For Kuma, everything attack he does in Hunting Stance except for Big Tree (F+MP), all eat launchers and Feral Crouch will duck under them.

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  • Dr. GrammarDr. Grammar Fighting Game Scientist Joined: Posts: 1,726
    I just did some testing with this. All of the following count as crouching attacks:

    Abel
    Change of Direction > Second Low (236P > K)
    Change of Direction > Finish Mid (236P > P_K > P)
    Change of Direction > Finish Low (236P > P_K > K)

    Asuka
    Tsuwabaki (6MP)
    Leg Cutter 1st-3rd hit (3HK (> 3HK (> 3HK)))
    Hyakujitsuko (5MK > 2MP)
    Whiplash Sacred Blade (6MK > 2MK or 4MP > 2MK)

    Bob
    Pound Cake (623P > P)
    Spinner Ball (41236K)
    Panini Flip (41236K > 2K)
    Granchi Cannon (623K > LP+MP)
    Apres Sweep (623K > LK)
    Cutting Coppa (623K > LK > LP+MP)

    Cammy
    Hooligan Combination > Razor's Edge Slicer (12369P > no input)

    Dhalsim
    Double Zoom Straight (6HP)

    Heihachi
    Eisho Mon (6MP)
    Jichinsai (4LK)
    Hammer Punch (4LP)
    Muso Kageki (6LP > HP)

    Ibuki
    Sazan (3MK)
    Neck Breaker (41236P)

    Jin
    Right Roundhouse Punch (6523 > MP)
    Swaying Willow (2KK > MP_HP)
    Right Sweep (2KK > MK_HK)

    Juri
    Fuhajin release (236[K] > *K*)

    Julia
    Baiyuan Sanshou (5LP > 4MP > LP > LP)
    Trickling Stream (4MP > LP)
    Slow Power Punch (6MP)
    Slow Power Punch to Low Kick (6MP > LK)
    Wind Roll Explosion 1st Hit (41236K > 2K)

    Kazuya
    Rising Sun MK/HK/EX low hits (214K)
    Sweep (214KK > 2K)
    Spinning Demon (6523 > K (> K))

    Paul
    3HK
    Sway MP (214MP)

    Poison
    Guard Cancel
    Kissed by a Goddess (623K)

    Raven
    Alter Ego LK/HK/LK+MK/MK+HK (236K)

    Steve
    Spin Low Hook (5HK > 2MP_HP)

    Xiaoyu
    5MP (far)
    Double Map Sweep (AOP K)

    Yoshimitsu
    Flea to Sling Headbutt (FLE K)

    Zangief
    Long Kick (3HK)
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,810 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Beautiful work.
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    Reformatted OP.
    "Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth." ~ Bruce Lee
  • Shooting Star RockmanShooting Star Rockman Jaded Joined: Posts: 1,246
    I tested Fuhajin Release (at least the LK version), and it's impossible to launch. I tried it with both Juri and Ryu.

    Xiaoyu's Double Map Sweep hurtbox is so low that the launcher will only whiff at best and you'll only get hit by her follow-up kicks. Unless your launcher also hits low it would be impossible to raw launch it.

    Not all low attacks are launchable. Lili's Feisty Rabbit to Rabbit's Foot will only whiff when launched.
  • Miguel RossingtonMiguel Rossington Dedicated Nina Williams Player Joined: Posts: 290
    Some of Ninas strings can be launched.

    Creeping snake to left low uppercut
    Creeping snake to Left low high kick

    3rd hit, hits low and is not a true blockstring on both.
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  • Shooting Star RockmanShooting Star Rockman Jaded Joined: Posts: 1,246
    Raw launching Kuma's Break'n (Primal Stance, :b::hp:) a catch, as shown here:



    As we can see his Break'n has armor properties, which might render some launchers useless when used too close. It would be better then to raw launch it at a good distance. Perhaps only Jin's launcher is capable of raw launching it at point blank since his launcher hits twice. Maybe Kuma's other Primal Stance moves have armor properties? Sorry I only managed to test this move, as I'm getting sleepy already. :sleep:

    Oh yeah, this is version 1.02 so I might not know if the armor property has been removed in the recent patches. If it is please let me know. Thanks.
  • The Lone DragonThe Lone Dragon perverted feminist Joined: Posts: 3,790
    Reformatted OP.

    Just a typo heads up, for Christie is called "Double Arm STINGER" so that people don't get confused.

    Also, you meant "MINUS" not "MINIS"...again, so people don't get confused. Her Wheel Kicks can definitely NOT be raw launched.

    But, good job putting this stuff together. This thread should get stickied.
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  • Cody&Guy18Cody&Guy18 Joined: Posts: 1,081
    Law: forward MP (overhead).

    Note: Tested it with Jack X and Cody as "launchers". Both raw launches would trade at times so I'm rather unsure (= hit launcher too late or early?).
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  • SF-Zero2SF-Zero2 Pronounced AlphaZero Joined: Posts: 1,373
    Can Guy's slide sweep be raw launched? I've only played a few of them but failed when I tried it.

    You'd want to raw launch his Slide, blocking and punishing only works if he does it too close. If it's done from range were it can tick into TC, it's hard to punish, and not recommended.

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    Break'n has armor properties from 1-42 frames, in 2013 it's going to have armor for 1-20 frames, so you'll probably be able to punish it the longer its out.
  • GenistarGenistar Master Drayden Joined: Posts: 5,041
    I wouldnt wast too much time trying to raw launch a move that can be blocked and punished.
    I think this would be really good when you're low on health.

    I think guy's run slide can be crushed too.
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  • SUPARNOVAXSUPARNOVAX 必殺技 Joined: Posts: 5,810 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Law: forward MP (overhead).

    Note: Tested it with Jack X and Cody as "launchers". Both raw launches would trade at times so I'm rather unsure (= hit launcher too late or early?).
    That sounds more like the launcher is counter hitting the overhead since it's pretty slow.
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  • Cody&Guy18Cody&Guy18 Joined: Posts: 1,081
    That sounds more like the launcher is counter hitting the overhead since it's pretty slow.
    Now you mentioned that, I think you're right. I always got a counter message when I did the launcher. However, I mostly ended up with a sort of raw launch, since I could do a follow-up combo.

    But if it's a true low crush? Not really then. :)
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    Bump.... this is too good to be forgotten about! ;)
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