Is it worth getting into?

Hello everyone! Long time Street Fighter fan/spectator and have longed thought about trying out one of the games for myself. I've always been just one of those guys that needs competition. I can't just play a game for a little bit and be satisfied y'know? I have to either become great at it..or ultimately it's juste a waste of time in my eyes. Trouble is the current popular competitive games I'm just not that into. Starcraft while great is very stressful and right now crazy over saturated with great players. As for league and DOTA...well I'm just not that into the genre. SFIV has these super ridiculous specific/hidden timings in order to do some of the most basic of combos. (seriously have any new player try to do the trial mode and no matter how you slice it -- there's just no intuitive way to learn the game.) And...UMvC seems to just be a super move spam fest... : /

So my questions to you guys are as follows....

1. Are there any tournaments currently being held for this game? (whether online or at some event)

2. Is SF3 plagued by the same crazy specific strict timings that SFIV had to string basic combos?

3. What format is the game most played on? XBL? PSN? GGPO? (is there at least a decent xbox crowd? cause that'd be my first best...have a good arcade stick for it ;)

4. What advice would you have for a new player looking to get into the game?

Thanks in advance for any well thought out input : )
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  • WTF-AKUMA-HAXWTF-AKUMA-HAX SSJizzle XVampire G.Jr Joined: Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Tournaments are a divisive thing. Don't worry about that so much to start with, but rather as looking for any general group to play with in your area.

    2. The feel in SF3 is pretty cool. Something that doesn't seem to exist anymore in SF4, Low Forward->Shoryu is awesome. Something like Ryu crMP x2 would be like a 1 frame link here so get that out of your head right now, that was something everyone fished with over on SF4, that put me off to that game.

    3. There are active players on all versions. GGPO could be the most unfriendly to new players, or have the least new players. Xbox is fine, stick to what you want to do, and have equipment for.

    4. Get experience, read up, ask questions, be legit.

    Do you need a lot of other people playing? Or do you naturally have a competitive drive? That's one of those not everyone has. and just coming into this one, be prepared to lose and know how to take those losses.


    And its only just like, do you like the game or not.
    you're going to have to find your own motivation to play.
    Please don't cite "no tournaments - not worth it" or something if you eventually decide the game is not for you.
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  • CounterMeasureCounterMeasure Joined: Posts: 27
    Hey thanks for the response I appreciate it. I just bought it and am happy to report that I can actually do the trial mode without ripping out my hair ^^ Definitely a challenge but a welcome one. But to respond on the tournament point. Truth be told I do need tournaments to justify investing hundreds and hundreds of hours into a game. What we seek as a reward for our dedication is just that y'know? Recognition. That's what's so cool about tournaments. They offer the chance to prove yourself -- to feel good about yourself -- to be respected by your fellow competitors. If I can't have that in mind as something that I'm working towards then I'd have a hard time justifying putting in the time no matter how great the game is. (Really does seem great btw : D )

    (btw I work 3rd shift so I'm about to go sleep now haha so if my reply is late that's why ^^)
  • yuukiyuuki Joined: Posts: 628 ✭✭✭
    If you want to compete in tournaments I wouldn't recommend playing 3rd. That is unless you're willing/planning on living in or visiting Japan.

    execution wise only annoying thing I noticed about sf4 was the inability to cancel into a special if the normal was a chain.

    If you're into the game, have people offline to play or you think its fun then go for it. if not, its not "worth getting into"
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  • huckles98huckles98 Joined: Posts: 668
    Play the games you love. I can't get into SF4 because I just don't truly enjoy the art or how it plays. Even if there is only one person left on earth playing 3S, I will play.
  • GaijinblazeGaijinblaze fingerlicans Joined: Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭
    the general rule is that if you have to ask whether or not to play 3rd Strike, you don't love it enough to compensate for the fact that it has more or less no presence in western "pro gaming" (or whatever). basically, you need to weigh the esports thing against your enjoyment of the game, and right now it doesn't sound like anything can beat the prior from your perspective. you could also try some other popular games like tekken if you're interested in something that has sponsors throwing big prizes at tournaments and stuff if you don't like new capcom games.
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  • NijiNiji 3S Ibuki Joined: Posts: 189
    If you want hoop dreams, go play AE. 3S isn't a good game to try to go pro in, it's a game to play because you really like your character, the game, and/or the scene. No sane 3S player has recognition for their play as their primary drive.
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  • CounterMeasureCounterMeasure Joined: Posts: 27
    Really is a shame :/ Appreciate the feedback though
  • huckles98huckles98 Joined: Posts: 668
    It's only a shame if you want to join the droves of idiots that think you should only play a game so you can one day main stage in Vegas.
  • IglooBobIglooBob Joined: Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think mostly tournaments in the US run SSF4 and Marvel 3 anyway. KOF too I guess. you kinda have to play one of those or go without tournaments/recognition etc. I think it's more worthwhile to just play a game you really enjoy but it's up to you.
  • CounterMeasureCounterMeasure Joined: Posts: 27
    It's only a shame if you want to join the droves of idiots that think you should only play a game so you can one day main stage in Vegas.

    Not sure why the pursuit of glory should label anyone an idiot... I have much respect for the guys who put in the time to get that good. I wouldn't call anyone an idiot here but putting in lots and lots of time to only have yourself to impress just isn't enough to motivate most including me. But as long as there is a scene -- no matter how big or small -- if there's dedicated players to play against in any given enjoyable game I'm going to be interested (as should others). There just has to be an event to make it feel significant y'know? I dunno maybe down the road a game that I'll really like will be popular but until then maybe I'll check this and SF2HDR out.
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  • fraudulencefraudulence unparryable mediocrity Joined: Posts: 26
    Last time i checked, the point of ALL video games was fun...not fame/impressing people..i play this for fun, just like i play sports/puzzle/mmorpg/adventure/spacesim/etc. for fun.. Games aren't about "is it worth the time" the time spent is supposed to be WHY you would play a given game. Because you have fun during that time spent. "is it worth the time" makes it seem like it's not fun until a 'big event'


    that being said, you could always organize tournaments/events if you're determined enough.
  • CounterMeasureCounterMeasure Joined: Posts: 27
    Last time i checked, the point of ALL video games was fun...not fame/impressing people..i play this for fun, just like i play sports/puzzle/mmorpg/adventure/spacesim/etc. for fun.. Games aren't about "is it worth the time" the time spent is supposed to be WHY you would play a given game. Because you have fun during that time spent. "is it worth the time" makes it seem like it's not fun until a 'big event'


    that being said, you could always organize tournaments/events if you're determined enough.

    For me and I'm sure others -- games after a certain point (for me it was high school) felt like a waste of time unless they actually affected my social life. Otherwise that fun is just a false sense of achievement nothing more. With the pressures of getting older, having to find a career, a girlfriend. yada yada yada.....So with me I have to find a connection to my personal life y'know whether it be playing with friends or whatever -- but I also need to satisfy my need for competition and my desire for a real feeling of success in something that matters to not just me. We only live once! Who wouldn't want a chance at glory?

    we'll see though. not sure if anyone in my area cares enough. something to consider though among other things.. : /
  • OMG its a duckOMG its a duck Bruh I'm in down bad bruh Joined: Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭
    For me and I'm sure others -- games after a certain point (for me it was high school) felt like a waste of time unless they actually affected my social life. Otherwise that fun is just a false sense of achievement nothing more. With the pressures of getting older, having to find a career, a girlfriend

    How does working at McDonalds or getting a succubus make a game less fun? Are you one of those people that thinks they're sooooo nerdy for using facebook XDXD?
  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    Serious answer: people (masochists and mashers) still play this game on Xbox every day, but the conversion is messed up. That's it. A once classic game now not so classic.

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  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    Imagine what I think of you, grinding away on those Chun-Li Live charts. Have fun :tup:
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  • DeemoDeemo Joined: Posts: 355 ✭✭✭
    OMG leave Pointbreak91 alone, he is a key member in the UK 3rd Strike scene and i have met him numerous times at different 3rd Strike tournaments and events, he's really keeping the scene alive, no.. wait... i'm thinking of someone else, never mind.

    On a serious note it depends where you live i guess, where i live in the UK we have weekly offline 3rd Strike sessions, as well as bigger tournaments every month or so plus there's a new arcade opening in London where Raju is planning on hosting regular 3rd Strike sessions. Outside of Japan, Paris is probably the best place to play 3rd Strike as they have 2 great Arcades and regular tournaments, majors and sessions. New York also seems to be happening now thanks to Nica KO :)
  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    ^but you only started playing this game a few years ago after watching a parry vid, and downloading a free rom :clown:

    Last good thing to come out of Bristol was Blue Lines.
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  • DeemoDeemo Joined: Posts: 355 ✭✭✭
    ^but you only started playing this game a few years ago after watching a parry vid, and downloading a free rom :clown:

    Last good thing to come out of Bristol was Blue Lines.

    I'll see you at the next UK 3rd Strike tournament, then we can get some games in :)
  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    OK, look forward to that Deemo :confused:

    Seriously, you're about 6 years too late kid, give it up. No one cares about you and your dole wally mates down the road mashing away with Ken in 2012. Maybe if IG hadn't of screwed up so royally, there would have been a little interest and resurgence, but it didn't happen. If you genuinely love 3s and wanna play it at a high level every day, why on earth are you still living in the UK? See also post #21
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  • DeemoDeemo Joined: Posts: 355 ✭✭✭
    Yeah you're right, i guess that 64 man 3rd Strike tournament last week didn't happen either :(
  • OMG its a duckOMG its a duck Bruh I'm in down bad bruh Joined: Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭
    Why do you have a picture of a Thai tranny as your avatar???
  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    Well, that's lovely, but I won't be rushing to watch the vids any time soon zzz. BTW, the OP lives in NY, and online is still unforgivable trash. Like it or not, you started out as an online player. Realistically, people don't travel up and down the country whenever they wanna play a 2d game from the 90s. You guys are the 1% these days.
    Is it worth 'getting into'? It's an excellent game, but my initial post (#16) is the cold hard truth in relation to the statement in post #1
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  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    Why do you have a picture of a Thai tranny as your avatar???

    Why rock Q/Yun when you use Chun to boost on Live? I see ya man ;)
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  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    ESN, I beat that guy, overrated. No wonder he's mad haha
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  • DeemoDeemo Joined: Posts: 355 ✭✭✭
    Cool well then if he lives in NY then he should check out what Nica KO is doing! Definitely worth getting into if he lives in NY imo

    If everyone had your attitude 3rd Strike would be dead, it's true that i first played opponents on GGPO but it was only a month or so after that i first entered a 3rd Strike tournament in Cardiff, we kept our faith and spread the word of 3s, i started holding casual sessions in my house and pretty soon the local tournaments got bigger and more regular (one time i remember entering 4 local 3rd Strike tournaments in 1 month!) now we have weekly 3rd Strike sessions in a venue and bigger tournaments every month or so. OK so it's not the same as living in Japan, but at least we are doing something instead of going on the SRK forums complaining about playing online, saying VF is better and saying the offline scene in the UK is totally dead i mean really? what good is that doing anyone?

    Also FYI last weeks tournament was really sick and the fact that you don't know anything about it or the people that entered proves that you just shut the fuck up about 3rd Strike in Europe
  • OMG its a duckOMG its a duck Bruh I'm in down bad bruh Joined: Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭
    Guys, guys, guys. He was-guys. Guys, wait. He was just-get this. He was just... trolling! He wasn't serious, so that means he can act like an idiot all he wants, right guys?
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    Guys, guys, guys. He was-guys. Guys, wait. He was just-get this. He was just... trolling! He wasn't serious, so that means he can act like an idiot all he wants, right guys?

    don't you main stomp Alex

    there are no good guys in a you vs PointBreak argument. I can't root for either of you.
  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    a 3rd Strike tournament in Cardiff, we kept our faith and spread the word of 3s,

    You're killing me man :rofl:

    I can see now why I seem "mature" to you, when you're patently such a deluded and childish hothead, who randomly slanders people across forums for bad games, then demands they go play them at tournaments.

    Yo, veteran, next time you see Raju, ask him who CIV was, and how many times he took him off the machine ;)

    People like you are the reason why threads like that NE one degenerate into hostility, and why the UK FG scene in general goes into acrimonious meltdown every few years.
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  • OMG its a duckOMG its a duck Bruh I'm in down bad bruh Joined: Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭
    No, dive-kick spam Yun, but ya I get your point.
  • DeemoDeemo Joined: Posts: 355 ✭✭✭
    My point was that even tho it was a small 3s tournament in Cardiff, it was a start. and beats playing 3s ranked and then moaning about it on the internet
  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    In a sense, yes, but when you've been a fan of this game as long as I have, moaning about it on the internet after what they did to it (Online Edition - nice troll!) is wholly legitimate. When you fall out with people who own you hard on camera (bonjour ami), and the ranbats dry up again, you'll be back here with the rest of us grouching and growling for a decent online version full of comp, which doesn't encourage spammers and weirdos like duck and that guy who just leaves his console on 24/7.
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  • DeemoDeemo Joined: Posts: 355 ✭✭✭
    How about you add your best buddies Raju etc. and play with them instead of Americans on Ranked?
  • OMG its a duckOMG its a duck Bruh I'm in down bad bruh Joined: Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't get what your motivation is. Like, what do you want to happen?
  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    The conversion is screwed dude. Early KO, rollbacks, bizarre artwork tweaks, the well documented lists on here are endless. If you have access to the legit CPSIII hardware at your gatherings, you would know this.

    VF5FS doesn't give me any of this nonsense. IG took Third Strike, and treated it like a KOF game.
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  • OMG its a duckOMG its a duck Bruh I'm in down bad bruh Joined: Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭
    Same question, what do you want to happen? The patch to fix everything? Offline scenes to get bigger? Like, why are you so angry at everything?
  • DeemoDeemo Joined: Posts: 355 ✭✭✭
    He wants OE to be patched so he can play the same noobs on ranked on the other side of the world but with slightly less lag instead of a. playing top players who don't play ranked and only play in lobbies and b. getting off his arse and playing offline
  • PointBreak91PointBreak91 Custom costumes for SFV please Cap Joined: Posts: 666
    Ranked or lobby, it's still screwed. How do you think I got guys like mojit09 on my FL? Ranked is an abortion, you can't even select anything, just SYNCING STATS OMG, what were they thinking?

    Here ya go Deemo, what's wrong with this picture?

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    Oh wait, you were like 10 years old, playing Smash Bros, unlucky.

    Anyhow, I got frames and punishment options to study in the FS Dojo, real talk. I do hope Mr CounterMeasure can find some food for thought here, lol

    GGs, PO.
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  • OMG its a duckOMG its a duck Bruh I'm in down bad bruh Joined: Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭
    You still didn't answer my question, but ok, see ya around.

    EDIT: I think I see now? Maybe he's trying to talk shit about this game and saying how FS is perfect to get people to play VF5? Great idea.
  • ESNESN 最初はぐう... Joined: Posts: 1,316 ✭✭
    ESN, I beat that guy, overrated. No wonder he's mad haha
    Wtf i'm doing here?
    First, i'm curious to know who said i'm good.
    Anyway, you probably beat me, no big deal. Though you said right above "and online is still unforgivable trash.", so...
    Also in my vague memory (was on PSN right?), you're just a casual piece of shit abusing online crap, but that's not the point and i don't care of your mediocre or high level actually, but hey, let me share arbitrary arguments too.

    You're pretty high on my gaming crackpot scale: rant on same thing over and over on a shit load of topics whatever the subject is, "i'm more a veteran than you" argument, "i'm better than you" even though it's online and (see point 1), "your efforts are useless/too late, but hey, i love the game" and even more but i'm not that bored to note them all.

    You're useless, as a player, a community part, as a forum participant, are proud of it and are even more prone to laugh about other efforts which makes you an immature asshole. Good. Don't ask smarter people to be agree with your low level mentality.

    To sum it up: you act like a kid despite your supposed higher number of years in FG (which is not an argument btw). Shut up and, let more mature people talk about things they care...
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    There are some serious ePenis-growth going on in this thread.
  • DeemoDeemo Joined: Posts: 355 ✭✭✭
    I was trying not to get all e-angry over this but thankfully ESN did it for me, and rather truthfully may i add.
  • hismithismit VietnAmazing Joined: Posts: 404 ✭✭✭
    Go to Japan.
    I'm saving my money just to go there then lose a best of 1 set on first round of a tournament.
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    Good god what happened in here?

    Edit: said the dude that was contemplating third strike until he saw this menagerie.
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    get a picture with blue. he cosplays a cowboy everyday. not exactly the same...but kinda cool
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    It'd be really neat if I could get Red to cosplay as an Indian next to him.
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