EVO Player's Choice - CONGRATS SSBM! (Mike Z's closing remarks on OP)

J.D · January 9

DONATION DRIVE IS OVER! CONGRATULATIONS SSBM!!

Mike Z's closing remarks.

Final Results below

Spoiler:

WOW:wow: We raised almost a quarter million dollars. Good Job FGC!!
I wonder if Kotaku will be writing about this...

http://shoryuken.com/2013/01/13/evo-2013-donation-drive-standings-and-rule-update/
New rules regarding MLP: Fighting is Magic.

You can also follow this discussion on other communities.

Skullgirls http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/skullgirls-nominated-for-8th-slot-at-evo.174467/
Divekick http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/995085580/bring-divekick-to-pc/posts/383864
Smash http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=332276
Guilty Gear http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?15647-EVO-Games-this-year
Mane6 http://www.mane6.com/2013/01/fighting-is-magic-at-evo-2013.html
MLP http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/01/fighting-is-magic-nominated-for.html
NeoGaf http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=46289280
Iplaywinner http://iplaywinner.com/news/2013/1/8/evo-2013-game-lineup-player-choice-and-road-to-evo-venues-an.html
DOA5 http://www.doaworld.com/forums/index.php?/topic/4413-doa5-has-a-shot-at-evo-but-theres-a-catch/

I'll add more links as I find them. If you know of any other nominated communities holding a discussion about this, please let me know!

inkblot, post: 7884274, member: 2 wrote:

Some quick hits to address points in the thread.

We chose the donation poll for two reasons: It's unscammable in a way that a facebook poll is not, and Evo strongly believes in giving and paying-it-forward.

Results are hidden (for now) because we want to get a measure of how much each community really supports their game. This is an opportunity for the communities to put their money where their mouth is. If you can't be bothered to give $5 to CHARITY in the name of your game, how much do you really support it?

We're unquestionably losing money by doing this. The additional cost in manpower, space, equipment, etc. far exceeds any benefit we will reap in terms of additional sponsors, new attendees, etc. The difference between a 7 and 8 game lineup just isn't significant from an attendance or sponsorship perspective. We're doing this as a thank you to the game scenes who have supported Evo through the years and because we think it's a cool idea. So...

I understand if you're not excited by this because your favorite game probably won't win, but please don't play the victim and pretend we're somehow ripping you off. :) This whole shenanigan is a bonus gift. Just because you didn't win doesn't mean you lost.

So I encourage everyone to toss in their $5 (or more) to support their favorite game and feel good about supporting a worthy cause.

Geese Pants · January 9

If Smash somehow wins player's choice....................I hope Evo bans NOTHING!!!
Items fucking on.

Hawkingbird · January 9

Melee was top of the poll and wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo fanboys have the deepest pockets. I'm hoping for Skullgirls to make it through

Rokmode · January 9

My money is on melee. There is a huge army of smash players (most of them don't even play) that want this to happen. It dominated the poll as well.

J.D · January 9

I think that if Smash gets in we should respect their ruleset.
The thread about donating for melee at Smashboards became 10 pages in just a couple of hours.
There's some people who don't seem to trust the EVO staff at all, however, it's always nice to see a community come together for a common goal, so I'll respect them more if they actually pull this off.

Rioting Soul · January 9

Geese Pants, post: 7879088, member: 1292 wrote:

If Smash somehow wins player's choice....................I hope Evo bans NOTHING!!!
Items fucking on.

I think it will all come down to the most dedicated and numerous fan/player base.

Spoiler:

With that in mind, I think Melee is a good fighting game.

Climhazzardous · January 9

Whichever company wants their game in the most.

Shooting Star Rockman · January 9

I'm rooting for Guilty Gear. :D

scytheavatar · January 9

No one thinks MLP has a chance? You guys seem to be underestimating the power of 4chan and the Bronies.

Swedish Chef · January 9

Catherine.

DanDan · January 9

The one that has more casual fans...
So, Smash
or
MLP

d3v · January 9

I want this game to win.

Spoiler:

Rioting Soul · January 9

scytheavatar, post: 7879161, member: 47620 wrote:

No one thinks MLP has a chance? You guys seem to be underestimating the power of 4chan and the Bronies.

I do and I'm scared. Both already know of it. Also, Bronies apparently are avid donators. Ponder tweeted that MLP is leading.

J.D · January 9

The mods at Smashboards closed the thread about donations for Brawl.
Not sure what to think of it.

Climhazzardous · January 9

This is also ludicrous if you can't see how much has actually been donated.

One faction can believe they have a chance if wizard says they are in second when the highest one is like 30000 ahead or something. Its fishy.

Rokmode · January 9

when do they decide who's the winner?
nevermind, I found it
end of January in case anyone was curious

Hawkingbird · January 9

Is there a donation cap? If not then I can see some will scummy shit going down in the same way like the Indie humble bundles. Someone in Smashboards brought up a good point about this donation drive being a great tax write off for companies. I can see WB or Sony donating to get their games in if that's the case

Rioting Soul · January 9

Climhazzardous, post: 7879208, member: 83106 wrote:

This is also ludicrous if you can't see how much has actually been donated.

One faction can believe they have a chance if wizard says they are in second when the highest one is like 30000 ahead or something. Its fishy.

They could also say Guilty Gear or whatever won even though it only got $10 and MLP was leading by $100K. So there's that.

J.D · January 9

Climhazzardous, post: 7879208, member: 83106 wrote:

This is also ludicrous if you can't see how much has actually been donated.

but then again, some people could get discouraged to donate for their games if they consider they dont have a chance at winning.

Climhazzardous · January 9

that MLP game is not even at a playable build (according to Smashboards) how the hell could it feasibly have a tourney for it.

Hecatom · January 9

What game i would love to see winning
Guilty Gear Accent Core + R

What game i think has big chances of winning
My Little Pony Fighting is Magic (i actually wouldn't Mind)

What game i would be pissed to see winning
Smash, because fuck smash and fuck nintendo

What game could win if we go by conspiracy theories
Play Station All Stars

Games that i wouldn't mind see on the line up if for a miracle reason win
Skullgirls, Divekick

And why in the name of Baphemoth DOA 5 is not on the list ???

Cronopio · January 9

Dream: Super Turbo
Sad reality: Smash

goodm0urning · January 9

If we hurry now, we might be able to get a dark horse candidate going.

How pissed would Smash fans be if they got narrowly beaten out by Dragon Ball Z: Super Butoden?

SpaceOutNightmare · January 9

Swedish Chef, post: 7879174, member: 55212 wrote:

Catherine.

Yo, too hype.

Items banned.

I'm hoping on either Skullgirls or Vsav coming from behind.

COME ON CAPCOM, SEND IN THAT DONATION MONEY FOR "Darkstalkers Resurrection" or whatever the hell you want to call it, I won't tell.

bkfst_sausage · January 9

I'd like Vampire Savior to win, just so I can see Sako finally take something.

SpaceOutNightmare · January 9

bkfst_sausage, post: 7879883, member: 55137 wrote:

I'd like Vampire Savior to win, just so I can see Sako finally take something.

Or get beat out by top tier like last Evo.

Louiscipher · January 9

Smash Bros.

Wil · January 9

SpaceOutNightmare, post: 7879901, member: 74440 wrote:

Or get beat out by top tier like last Evo.

bkfst_sausage · January 9

SpaceOutNightmare, post: 7879901, member: 74440 wrote:

Or get beat out by top tier like last Evo.

You don't know much about Vampire Savior and Sako playing Vampire Savior, do you? Unless a horde of Japanese players come over for VS, Sako's probably got it won if he's the only VS player that attends. Some random USA player that picks Zabel isn't going to take him, unless there are some really exceptional USA players that live underground or something. Sako's one of the world's best Vampire players. This is like saying "Oh, if Kuroda came over here, some random player is going to beat him out of a 3S tournament using Yun/Ken/Chun because he uses Q and Oro"

BigRichez · January 9

Wishful Thinking: Soul Calibur V (even though I know it won't happen)

What I would like to see: Guilty Gear

What I don't want to see but know it will win anyway: MLP or Smash.

So anyway, if smash or mlp win. I'll still be at Evo and ya know what? When it's their turn to come on stream you know where I'll be? At the motherfucking bar. Anyone that wants to join is more than welcome.

Jazz · January 9

smatch bruddas is Ca$h Bruddas

bkfst_sausage · January 9

BTW - if you want to vote for 3S, and that link doesn't work, the correct link = https://www.wepay.com/donations/evo2013-3s

SpaceOutNightmare · January 9

bkfst_sausage, post: 7879920, member: 55137 wrote:

You don't know much about Vampire Savior and Sako playing Vampire Savior, do you? Unless a horde of Japanese players come over for VS, Sako's probably got it won if he's the only VS player that attends. Some random USA player that picks Zabel isn't going to take him, unless there are some really exceptional USA players that live underground or something. Sako's one of the world's best Vampire players. This is like saying "Oh, if Kuroda came over here, some random player is going to beat him out of a 3S tournament using Yun/Ken/Chun because he uses Q and Oro"

Woah, Mr.Defensive, I was just making a joke about Haitani last year.

Damn, niggas throwing 'bows over little snips.

I didn't even say that some random would pick Zabel, I just don't see why Sako lost to Haitani's Sas last year but would win this year.

As far as I know he hasn't been grinding out Vsav.

But, hey, if you want to defend Sako, I guess there's nothing wrong with that.

bkfst_sausage · January 9

Sako comes to America.
Haitaini doesn't.
I did say unless Japanese players suddenly come, Sako's most likely going to take it, considering this is an American tournament, and he's the only major VS player that comes here. A lot of single-game specialists don't come over here.

Epoch Masamune · January 9

Warner Bros. would be wise to use some of that promotion money for Injustice and donate it to charity to get Injustice in EVO. It would be good publicity and make people serious about buying and playing the game, especially with the Superman movie coming out this summer. Then again these studios could stay out of the "player's choice" game breast cancer donation drive so that it can really be the "player's choice", but I doubt that will happen(why would they given the chance?).

SpaceOutNightmare · January 9

bkfst_sausage, post: 7879967, member: 55137 wrote:

Sako comes to America.
Haitaini doesn't.
I did say unless Japanese players suddenly come, Sako's most likely going to take it, considering this is an American tournament, and he's the only major VS player that comes here. A lot of single-game specialists don't come over here.

Fuck you talking 'bout, homie?

Haitani was at last year's evo, why would he suddenly not come to this year's Evo.

Now, if I said "yeah, man, Sako's gonna get scrubbed out by some Gallon at this FR", fine, attack me, I would deserve it.

But nothing I said was unreasonable.

On the contrary, you're being unreasonable, to think that Haitani wouldn't come to EVO again, unless there's something I missed.

Is this really about Sako, or did you just hate my first comment so much you had to label me as some kind of Vsav scrub?

bkfst_sausage · January 9

SRK. We jump on our favorite players dicks.

Keits · January 9

Vote Divekick. Thanks!

bkfst_sausage · January 9

@Keits, can you do anything about the 3S link?

bkfst_sausage, post: 7879950, member: 55137 wrote:

BTW - if you want to vote for 3S, and that link doesn't work, the correct link = https://www.wepay.com/donations/evo2013-3s

J.D · January 9

The deadline seems to be in around 22 days.
I'm pretty sure they will disclose all the numbers by that time.

Keits · January 9

bkfst_sausage, post: 7880016, member: 55137 wrote:

@Keits, can you do anything about the 3S link?

Tom or Tony will have to make any corrections.

I'm pushing to get the announcement train on Divekick moving. We have huge things happening with the game, so don't expect the prototype from last year when you vote for us.

Paceyz · January 9

Swedish Chef, post: 7879174, member: 55212 wrote:

Catherine.

What we need is Crash Team Racing.

J.D · January 9

Keits, post: 7880327, member: 992 wrote:

I'm pushing to get the announcement train on Divekick moving. We have huge things happening with the game, so don't expect the prototype from last year when you vote for us.

Hey Keits. Do you think it would be smart if the communities were to start a petition asking big corporations to stay off the donation and allow the players to demonstrate the passion of their communities? I'm pretty sure most people would agree that it would make it more fair.

If this is about uniting communities, this would certainly add to that.

Vulpes · January 9

Paceyz, post: 7880350, member: 22183 wrote:

What we need is Crash Team Racing.

Yay for crappy Mario Kart ripoffs o_O

Rioting Soul · January 9

Keits, post: 7880007, member: 992 wrote:

Vote Divekick. Thanks!

I just put 20 down.

Return of Shiki · January 9

J.D, post: 7880366, member: 2138 wrote:

Hey Keits. Do you think it would be smart if the communities were to start a petition asking big corporations to stay off the donation and allow the players to demonstrate the passion of their communities? I'm pretty sure most people would agree that it would make it more fair.

You poor, naive child.
You actually think this is supposed to be fair?

You think this is actually about the hardcore community?

Hawkingbird · January 9

Vulpes, post: 7880372, member: 57311 wrote:

Yay for crappy Mario Kart ripoffs o_O

Bite you tongue heathen. Crash Team Racing is the superior kart racer.

Ragnorok64 · January 9

I want smash to win so I can see all the salt from those that hate on it because it's the cool thing to do.

Sent from my MOTWX435KT using Tapatalk 2

Yin · January 9

I read the Smashboards thread to determine if they were a threat to pony. What a horrible read that was.

A lot of complaining about lack of transparency concerning what game is in the lead... But the reason they want the numbers is because they were planning on collecting money internally, then only enter that money to Melee at the end if they had a chance of winning... Even if their motive is not trusting big companies buying their way in, that's scummy and actually an excellent reason NOT to show the numbers.

Anyway, they were super anti and if that thread represents their community I don't think they have a chance.

Also, I think the lineup for this EVO is great, even without the 8th game. And any of the 8th spot games are sure to be at least mildly interesting to watch. Anyone who's gonna be salty after this donation poll is mad petty.

I was gonna support MLP, but I couldn't find a Paypal option. Is there one? :xeye:

Scrub Saibot · January 9

What happens if MLP wins and then gets shut down by Hasbro for copyright infringement?

Great_Dark_Hero · January 9

I can vouch for either Skullgirls, CVS2, ST, Melee, GGAC+R, or MVC2... heh.

EDIT: Er... You know what? Forget about Melee... or any Smash for that matter

EVO Player's Choice - CONGRATS SSBM! (Mike Z's closing remarks on OP)

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