Injustice: Gods Among Us Battle Edition Arcade Stick

Nucking Futs!Nucking Futs! Joined: Posts: 1,279
edited February 2014 in Tech Talk
**Read this first post thoroughly before asking/posting questions!**

Can't stress this enough...

It's great as a beginner stick due to the recent price drop IF you don't plan on modding it besides the simple stuff (swapping out the restrictor gate, changing out the balltop, shaft & buttons as long you're willing to lose the LED function) but I don't recommend it as your first stick if you want to do anything more.

EDIT: 4/15/13

Kaihong was nice enough to offer detailed pics & dissection starting with this post:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/comment/8091923/#Comment_8091923

EDIT: 6/5/13

FWIW, I ended up using it for a few hours wanting to really like it but ultimately unloaded mine on eBay a few weeks ago (yes, I'm the one that created this thread!). If it was the only stick I own then I probably wouldn't mind modding it. IMHO, it's a mid-tier stick at best but just too much work (dremeling the bottom of Sanwa buttons to make the OEM LED's fit in there with Sanwa SW-68 microswitches, using spacers to make a JLF fit, adding weights, etc.) to make it a quality top-tier stick (just not motivated enough to do all that easy yet tedious work). A little annoyed (I'm over it, ha!) WB didn't allow PDP to announce (before launch date) exactly what components (manufacturer) would be inside of it but I guess now we all know why though most of us suspected it wouldn't be top-tier components from Sanwa or Seimitsu anyway. Love the semi-grippy rubber texture (spray on?!?) of the case & LED lights...but that was it! I probably wouldn't pay no more than $75 for it but that's just me. Also wasn't feeling the Namco Noir/Astro City button layout.

EDIT: 1/10/14

Gamestop had a sale for $55 (after $5 off & free shipping codes) so I caved in & bought it since I couldn't resist the price for an all-LED stick. Also, I'm crossing my fingers the developers of Injustice (PS4) will implement a patch to allow the use of this stick but highly doubt it.

EDIT: 2/11/14

Price dropped to $40 but sold out for both consoles.

If you guys/gals don't care about the LED's, has a Vewlix button layout & a ball-top then for around $60 the Qanba Q1 is an alternative option. It includes a table mount/clamp, octo/circular gates, button plugs & a USB-cable storage compartment. It uses the same exact buttons & joystick lever as the Injustice stick.

Details:

Case material: Plastic with spray on (?!?) soft rubber matte black texture & thin foam bottom panel. Clear top panel is plastic. There are no metal panels. Also has a detachable 10-feet USB cable.

Artwork: Heavy duty cardstock underneath the top panel.

Button layout: There's no specific name for the stick/button layout on this arcade stick but the closes is the Sega Astro City Single Player layout found on the Hori Real Arcade Pro 2, 3 & EX.

Components: All Qanba-based (Omron microswitches for the joystick lever just like in a Sanwa JLF) with individual button & joystick lever LED's. Black bat-top with clear shaft cover & clear dust cover.

Weight: ~3.5 - 4.0 pounds.

Additional features: Two options for the LED's (on & pulse aka vibration as there are no vibrating motors). Lockout of Start, Select/Back & Home.

Modding: Hex screws on the top panel & Phillips screws on the bottom panel. Will fit both Sanwa & Seimitsu 30mm buttons as well as ball-tops. However, unless you plan on drilling holes into each button for the stock individual LED's, I don't recommend swapping buttons. Octo & circular gates (for the joystick lever) will swap easily. Sanwa JLF will fit BUT the mounting plate won't so swap everything over except for the plate. As for a Seimitsu LS-32-01, this won't fit unless you cut (dremel) plastic & add spacers.

FWIW, the game developers are the same one's that did MKvDCU & the MK-series. Just like the previous PDP MK sticks (TE & Klassic) surprisingly, it has excellent fit & finish. This Gamestop exclusive bundle is for the PS3 & 360 but not for the WiiU (the mention of this in their PR is an error they retracted).

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/01/15/injustice-gods-among-us-hits-april-16-batte-edition-revealed/

PS3:

http://www.gamestop.com/ps3/games/injustice-gods-among-us-battle-edition/107664

360:

http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/games/injustice-gods-among-us-battle-edition/107663

Credit goes to forum member, LiQuiD[EViL]:

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  • W00P MstR FresHW00P MstR FresH Making stuff is fun Joined: Posts: 824
    I like it.
  • chuuchuu Fan of the female form Joined: Posts: 3,492
    and here I thought I wasn't getting anymore sticks...but if the stick comes with the game...hmmmm...
  • Afro MessiahAfro Messiah Arizona Warrior Joined: Posts: 113
    The stick doesn't look too shabby. I noticed the pictures are identical for the ps3 and xbox 360. No button color enforcement for the 360 this time around?
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  • kikimaru024kikimaru024 Mid-tier scrub Joined: Posts: 1,693
    See-through lever?

    I foresee many a broken stick in the future if it's made of plastic!
    Seimitsu & K-sticks > Sanwa JLF.
    This truth is not universally acknowledged.
  • Afro MessiahAfro Messiah Arizona Warrior Joined: Posts: 113
    See-through lever?

    I foresee many a broken stick in the future if it's made of plastic!

    Looks like a metal lever with a clear shaft cover is all, easy to see in the 2nd photo. Hopefully the stick/button quality is solid because it looks nice stock.
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  • mr.mortifiedmr.mortified A man behind a desk Joined: Posts: 3,044
    looks like a wannabe b15 with a JLF clear cover shaft and either LED button or most likely blue clear sanwa. at least its using the superior layout of noir/astro city. also looks like injustice is ditching the crappy 1-2-1-2 button game layout

    edit: oh right it is LED buttons
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  • Nucking Futs!Nucking Futs! Joined: Posts: 1,279
    edited January 2014
    and here I thought I wasn't getting anymore sticks...but if the stick comes with the game...hmmmm...

    Yeah, after getting another stick recently I thought I was done for awhile...I guess not!
    See-through lever?

    I foresee many a broken stick in the future if it's made of plastic!
    Looks like a metal lever with a clear shaft cover is all, easy to see in the 2nd photo. Hopefully the stick/button quality is solid because it looks nice stock.

    I like the design of the stick too. Yeah, it looks like a clear shaft cover just like on my VLX.
    looks like a wannabe b15 with a JLF clear cover shaft and either LED button or most likely blue clear sanwa. at least its using the superior layout of noir/astro city. also looks like injustice is ditching the crappy 1-2-1-2 button game layout

    edit: oh right it is LED buttons

    I think it's hilarious when people say one layout is more superior than another since it's all personal preference. I prefer the Vewlix layout but to each their own.
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  • GeorgeCGeorgeC Joined: Posts: 2,850
    Someone on the Injustice thread/story claimed to be a PDP rep. His name is Sebastian.

    He confirmed that PDP is making the Injustice joystick.
    I really doubted it would be Hori and Mad Catz. They just don't do bat handles...
  • phaedrusphaedrus Joined: Posts: 818
    Candace from PDP has confirmed they are making it.
    https://www.facebook.com/PDP.Candace/posts/474960172540733
    7 button is trap.
  • Nucking Futs!Nucking Futs! Joined: Posts: 1,279
    Someone on the Injustice thread/story claimed to be a PDP rep. His name is Sebastian.

    He confirmed that PDP is making the Injustice joystick.
    I really doubted it would be Hori and Mad Catz. They just don't do bat handles...
    Candace from PDP has confirmed they are making it.
    https://www.facebook.com/PDP.Candace/posts/474960172540733

    Thanks for the info guys! Yeah, was hoping Hori or Madcatz but PDP will suffice. Surprisingly, both of their MK sticks (TE & Klassic) are quality stuff. Very good fit & finish. I've had both since they each launched & no issues whatsoever.
    Current fav's the Hori RAP4 VLX! Like the MickeyD's commercial..."I'm lovin it"
  • chuuchuu Fan of the female form Joined: Posts: 3,492
    hmmmm...i think they going to use clone parts in the stick like in the mk stick.
  • Nucking Futs!Nucking Futs! Joined: Posts: 1,279
    hmmmm...i think they going to use clone parts in the stick like in the mk stick.

    What are you talking about with clone parts in the MK sticks? Both sticks had Happ Comp parts (for both the joystick lever & main buttons) although the TE had E-switches while the Klassic had Cherry microswitches.
    Current fav's the Hori RAP4 VLX! Like the MickeyD's commercial..."I'm lovin it"
  • chuuchuu Fan of the female form Joined: Posts: 3,492
    What are you talking about with clone parts in the MK sticks? Both sticks had Happ Comp parts (for both the joystick lever & main buttons) although the TE had E-switches while the Klassic had Cherry microswitches.
    hmmmm, i guess i didn't like the feel of them, especially the buttons, so i thought they were clones.
  • Nucking Futs!Nucking Futs! Joined: Posts: 1,279
    hmmmm, i guess i didn't like the feel of them, especially the buttons, so i thought they were clones.

    At that time, I had another older wooden case with Happ parts & the components felt just like the one's in the newer sticks. I like the TE since it has an internal storage compartment with an inner lexan covering the bottom side of the top panel but don't like that it has E-switches. On the otherhand, I like the Klassic since it has Cherry microswitches yet wasn't feeling the artwork in addition to not having an internal storage compartment & requires more work to get to the internals. Overall, I like both sticks very much since the fit & finish in both sticks are excellent & it brings back nostalgic memories of my childhood playing MK & SF2 at the local 7-11 & arcades.
    Current fav's the Hori RAP4 VLX! Like the MickeyD's commercial..."I'm lovin it"
  • chuuchuu Fan of the female form Joined: Posts: 3,492
    At that time, I had another older wooden case with Happ parts & the components felt just like the one's in the newer sticks. I liked the TE since it had an internal storage compartment with an inner lexan covering the bottom side of the top panel but didn't like that it had E-switches. On the otherhand, I like the Klassic since it had Cherry microswitches yet wasn't feeling the artwork in addition to not having an internal storage compartment & requires more work to get to the internals. Overall, I like both sticks very much.
    i was trying to sell the TE for a while...went as low as $40 plus shipping...no takers...
  • Nucking Futs!Nucking Futs! Joined: Posts: 1,279
    i was trying to sell the TE for a while...went as low as $40 plus shipping...no takers...

    The buttons in the TE has E-switches so isn't as responsive & nice as in the Klassic stick with the Cherry microswitches. Yeah, it's hard to sell MK sticks on this forum for the obvious. You were probably better off selling on MK-specifc forums & eBay. Took me forever to sell the Madcatz TE Round 2 with the MK panel with matching buttons (black rim with red plunger) & a red ToggleMe billet aluminum bat-top on here.
    Current fav's the Hori RAP4 VLX! Like the MickeyD's commercial..."I'm lovin it"
  • Smashbro29Smashbro29 Waiting for the new Framemeister... Joined: Posts: 7,198
    i was trying to sell the TE for a while...went as low as $40 plus shipping...no takers...
    The buttons in the TE has E-switches so isn't as responsive & nice as in the Klassic stick with the Cherry microswitches. Yeah, it's hard to sell MK sticks on this forum for the obvious. You were probably better off selling on MK-specifc forums & eBay. Took me forever to sell the Madcatz TE Round 2 with the MK panel with matching buttons (black rim with red plunger) & a red ToggleMe billet aluminum bat-top on here.
    Try selling a Black Magic Intensity Pro. Thing simply will not sell anywhere.

    Also, this stick could be good? I dismissed it as shit as soon as I saw a price.
  • GeorgeCGeorgeC Joined: Posts: 2,850
    It's PDP...

    Their reputation is not-so-good in these parts.
    I've had no problems with the cooling fan they released for the original PlayStation 3's -- I'm convinced that fan is WHY my 60 GB model still works(!) -- but a lot of people hate their controllers. They seem to have so-so reputation because of that.

    And the reviews for the Mortal Kombat stick they released with Happ-clone(?) parts have been not so great at times. The stories about PDP MK sticks breaking during an MK tournament in the past year didn't help, either.
  • phaedrusphaedrus Joined: Posts: 818
    From Candace-
    Good morning, here are the answers to the Injustice Fight Stick questions I keep getting. Please pass it around so I don't have to keep repeating myself, thank you ^_^. You can ask more questions here, but I may not have answers to them.

    - Yes, PDP is producing the stick available in the Injustice: Gods Among Us "Battle Edition".
    - I probably wont have review copies, you will need to get that directly from WB/Nether Realm (No, I don't have their contact info).
    - I don't know what parts are in the sticks and I am doing my best to find out what they are.
    - No, we wont be making any stand alone sticks separate from the game.
    - I don't know if we are having a tournament.
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  • Nucking Futs!Nucking Futs! Joined: Posts: 1,279
    edited February 2014
    Also, this stick could be good? I dismissed it as shit as soon as I saw a price.

    Many people dismissed the original PDP MK TE as shit simply because it was the same price ($150) but I was pleasantly surprised when I used it. So looking forward to this version.
    It's PDP...

    Their reputation is not-so-good in these parts.
    I've had no problems with the cooling fan they released for the original PlayStation 3's -- I'm convinced that fan is WHY my 60 GB model still works(!) -- but a lot of people hate their controllers. They seem to have so-so reputation because of that.

    And the reviews for the Mortal Kombat stick they released with Happ-clone(?) parts have been not so great at times. The stories about PDP MK sticks breaking during an MK tournament in the past year didn't help, either.

    Yeah, I can understand why people would automatically think their products are crap but the last 2 MK sticks from them are very good & I'm VERY anal about the quality of durability, fit & finish. Many manufacturers go thru issues with their products, it's just a matter if they correct them & take care of their customers post sale. I'm sure you recall Madcatz had issues with their PCB's in both the original SE & TE sticks but yet they corrected their mistakes with new revisions & taking care of their customers post sale.

    No Happ clone parts in those 2 sticks. They even advertised it as having Suzo-Happ parts & pretty obvious once you use it (if you've used Happ parts previously):

    PDP-MortalKombatFightStick.jpg

    MKstick03--article_image.jpg

    And no, I don't work and/or are affiliated with PDP & WB, LOL! Just an avid joystick collector like yourself.
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  • SmokeMaxXSmokeMaxX T.O. of A.R.K. Joined: Posts: 7,974
    Yeah I think PDP did a fine job with the MK sticks. I also like what they did with their pads as well, but that's just from an outsider's POV as I didn't actually play with one. I'm excited to see how the Battle Edition stick turns out.
  • GeorgeCGeorgeC Joined: Posts: 2,850
    I'm not getting the joystick edition of this game... I already have a DC joystick designed... It's been ready for over a year now. I just have to get cash to spend on the parts I need to finish the joystick! The Agetec case has already been properly cut and painted.

    (Hint about the joystick art I composed -- it's NOT related to the "Nu52" but it's classic crossover art by George Perez = one of the guys that current DC management and editorial treated like an old shoe recently. Gee, this is only one of several people who helped revitalize DC in the 1980s and made the characters more relatable, too, WITHOUT DESTROYING complete timelines and backstories for the most part. I might not have cared for all he did to Wonder Woman but it's nowhere near the scale of the crap going on with DC Comics now...)

    I honestly wish I could be more excited about the game but I hate the DC redesigns... I just don't like the New 52 and all these changes to classic costumes that were fine the way they were before 2011. I have to admit that was a big bone of contention for me about MK vs DC, too, but we can blame the MK creators for all the dumb costume changes there.

    Being that it's also an MK-like game -- at least I sense that from the videos and developer --, I'm also so-so on the game engine. I just hope it's possible to actually execute "Finishing Moves" or whatever they're going to call them in the game. The input to do a lot special moves, in particular Fatalities, has always been ridiculously tight on the MK games I've played. Even the original arcade version of Super Street Fighter II Turbo isn't that bad with control inputs!

    I just hope that the rumored alternate skins for the DC characters includes their classic pre-2011 looks! I can't stand all the added buckles and straps on the costumes, Superman's armor (WTF? He's supposed to be the Man of Steel! "Skin that can't be burst with anything less than an artillery"?), and all this other mindless redesign work.

    Even the player game mash-ups like MUGEN do a better job of handling most of the character looks... They stick to the fan favorites. Loved it when somebody stuck in a Kingdom Come palette for Superman...

    Eh, maybe the joystick will be fine, maybe it... PDP and Midway best be sure the final product is durable. Players will NOT tolerate half-assed hardware anymore when a used or on-sale joystick is readily available with the REAL arcade parts installed already.
  • alpha_counter13alpha_counter13 satsui no hado.. Joined: Posts: 32
    It's PDP...

    Their reputation is not-so-good in these parts.
    I've had no problems with the cooling fan they released for the original PlayStation 3's -- I'm convinced that fan is WHY my 60 GB model still works(!) -- but a lot of people hate their controllers. They seem to have so-so reputation because of that.

    And the reviews for the Mortal Kombat stick they released with Happ-clone(?) parts have been not so great at times. The stories about PDP MK sticks breaking during an MK tournament in the past year didn't help, either.
    yeah, i bought a used PDP fight pad & really liked it at first.. but the buttons gave out in a couple of weeks.. but since i did like the feel of it, i ended up buying a brand new one.. well a couple of weeks later the thumb pad started to give out & i was done with PDP fight pads!! that said, i think the PDP arcade stick looks great but if it's stocked with happ parts i would no longer be interested in buying one.. happ parts were fine with me back in my alpha 2 arcade days but after getting a fightstick pro i quickly found out i definitely prefer the feel of sanwa parts..
  • MoonchildeMoonchilde Resident tech talk double poster Joined: Posts: 4,836
    It definitely looks like a Sanwa bat top, I wouldn't be surprised if at that price range they're offering legitimate Sanwa levers. Not sure about those buttons though. Clears+leds would probably jack the price up beyond that range.
  • SmokeMaxXSmokeMaxX T.O. of A.R.K. Joined: Posts: 7,974
    "At that price range"? It's cheaper than almost every other stick of that size that actually have Sanwa parts.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,506 mod
    I'm betting JLF+LB-30+JLF-CD clear shaft and OBSC-30 clear buttons.

    As for the price, by lowering the markup, they have enough to cover the cost of the game.*

    *Assuming that production cost for the stick is around $100. I'm using the assumed production cost for the beta Razer sticks (based on the receipts that came with them) as a baseline for how much these arcade sticks with Sanwa parts actually cost before markup.
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  • SmokeMaxXSmokeMaxX T.O. of A.R.K. Joined: Posts: 7,974
    If this uses full Sanwa parts, I'd buy it. I'm not tech expert, but how can you tell that they're Sanwa over Seimetsu? They looked Seimetsu to me.
  • DanDanDanDan Yeah! Joined: Posts: 1,209
    I hope it's Happ/iL Parts, that'd be a nice change of pace.

    Unfortunately, this is wishful thinking in this day and age...
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  • SmokeMaxXSmokeMaxX T.O. of A.R.K. Joined: Posts: 7,974
    I wouldn't necessarily mind Happ/iL, just not Seimetsu. I'd also probably prefer convex over concave buttons. Actually it'd honestly be nice if the stick used HBSF buttons.
  • ThePunisher1ThePunisher1 Joined: Posts: 95
    I don't think Seimitsu or Sanwa make concave buttons so there is no way that's what's being used here. Those buttons are definitely concave. Also that stick case looks too small to fit iL or happ so it's probably using some crappy third party parts. It's a shame....if this thing was using Sanwa or Seimitsu I'd go pre order it right now
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  • SmokeMaxXSmokeMaxX T.O. of A.R.K. Joined: Posts: 7,974
    I don't think Seimitsu or Sanwa make concave buttons so there is no way that's what's being used here. Those buttons are definitely concave. Also that stick case looks too small to fit iL or happ so it's probably using some crappy third party parts. It's a shame....if this thing was using Sanwa or Seimitsu I'd go pre order it right now
    Nvm. I see what you're saying. How can you tell they're definitely concave?
  • ThePunisher1ThePunisher1 Joined: Posts: 95
    Nvm. I see what you're saying. How can you tell they're definitely concave?

    Zoom in on the picture and you can tell. It's a fairly high resolution pic.
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  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,506 mod
    If this uses full Sanwa parts, I'd buy it. I'm not tech expert, but how can you tell that they're Sanwa over Seimetsu? They looked Seimetsu to me.
    The stick is obviously Sanwa since you can clearly see an LB-30 bat top and a JLF-CD clear shaft cover. As for the buttons, it's conjecture based on the fact that manufacturers usually do not mix and match parts from different brands. That, and Sanwa also makes clear buttons (OBSC-30).
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  • ThePunisher1ThePunisher1 Joined: Posts: 95
    The stick is obviously Sanwa since you can clearly see an LB-30 bat top and a JLF-CD clear shaft cover. As for the buttons, it's conjecture based on the fact that manufacturers usually do not mix and match parts from different brands. That, and Sanwa also makes clear buttons (OBSC-30).
    Sanwa doesn't make concave buttons....
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  • MoonchildeMoonchilde Resident tech talk double poster Joined: Posts: 4,836
    The art has to be a mock up, you can see Superman's arm through the shaft, and that isn't a reflection either. Plus the screws kind of have an odd photoshop'd appearance, and it's a PS3 stick with a head phone insert. I haven't seen any PS3 sticks or controllers do that.

    I'm guessing this is a Sanwa stick with a blue shaft cover. Also, those definitely look like OBSC-30 Blues with a custom perloid print inserted in the plungers. It looks like the stick is using a plexi top so that it illuminates through. I wonder how that will fare compared to metal panels. Too bad Sanwa bat tops are so ugly and the plastic used for the bat top leaves a lot to be desired. If this is correct then I think this stick is a pretty good deal, nice button layout and rather expensive parts for the cost of old school TE with the usual opaques. I'd just be worried about that plexi panel.
    Sanwa doesn't make concave buttons....

    They're not concave, what you see is a perloid swirl that makes it appear that way.
  • d3vd3v Coughing DAT PINK SPIT Joined: Posts: 36,506 mod
    Sanwa doesn't make concave buttons....
    Those aren't concave, it only looks like that due to how the light is reflecting of those OBSCs.
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  • Bad_Boy_BrazilBad_Boy_Brazil Joined: Posts: 1,110
    Hopefully someone can review it soon. Wondering if it's wireless or wired with cable compartment. I wanted for the Wii U :(
  • somebodyelsesomebodyelse Tiger Knee Kick Joined: Posts: 98
    So this version of the game that comes with the stick is not coming to the Wii U?
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  • Nucking Futs!Nucking Futs! Joined: Posts: 1,279
    So this version of the game that comes with the stick is not coming to the Wii U?

    From my 1st post in this thread:
    ... This bundle has been confirmed for the PS3 & 360 but not for the WiiU (the mention of this in their PR is an error they retracted).
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    Hopefully someone can review it soon. Wondering if it's wireless or wired with cable compartment. I wanted for the Wii U :(
    You could always add a PiiWee board to it for dirty sexy Wii/ Wii U action.
    No idea if PDP makes a Common ground PCB yet but if not swap it out for a board that is common ground.
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