Smash Brothers & SkullGirls: Bonding Communities?

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  • Nap1400Nap1400 Finally unlurking Joined: Posts: 20
    It was too big.

    They needed to make a reduced 6MB patch compared to the 50MB one.
  • Ragnorok64Ragnorok64 My muscles have no memory. Joined: Posts: 4,901 ✭✭✭✭
    It was too big.

    They needed to make a reduced 6MB patch compared to the 50MB one.
    I thought the patch was 500mb. The 6mb patch locks the online and directs you to download a free 500mb dlc. That's at least what I heard.

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    Edit: fixed some auto-correct induced typos.
  • Nap1400Nap1400 Finally unlurking Joined: Posts: 20
    I thought the patch was 500mb. The 6mb patch locks the online and directs you to download a free 500mb doc. That's at least what u heard.

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    Right, it was 500MB. My mistake. I mixed up numbers trying to remember
  • 0sh0sh Sumgai Joined: Posts: 408
    Well on the forum front that leaves us with three options

    Wait indefinitely for the 360 patch and the official forum to open
    Not wait and start our own forum
    Or convince Mike Z/them to open the official forum now before the 360 patch

    If we do decide to just wait for the official forum, we should focus on trying to get more Skullgirl tourneys/hotspots started
    I'm fine with either of these. I don't think the third is a good idea, simply because the prior issue with people asking about the DLC date is still there, and it would distract them from more important matters.

    Reasons to go ahead and make the new forum anyway:
    - Being independent has its own benefits, foremost of which is that it doesn't come off to the layperson as a marketing exercise (as the forums for most games do) or just another platform for the developers to spread news.
    - We would be able to host content that is perhaps a legal grey-area (like fanart, etc.) and things that the official forums probably wouldn't want to do due to being too cumbersome e.g. reporting on local tournaments or whatever.
    - It would be less of a drain on the team.
    - Alternatively, we could even run it ouselves for now and then hand it over when Mike Z or whoever are ready to take it on.

    Reasons to wait for the official one:
    - Possible issues with community fragmentation as mentioned previously.
    - Less work for us to do, allows us to focus on other things in the community.
    - Don't need to raise money.
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  • fluxcorefluxcore Fighting Kiwi Joined: Posts: 291
    In light of the official forum details, waiting seems more appropriate, even if we are in a buzz to act on things right now.
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  • AsteriskBlueAsteriskBlue Joined: Posts: 490 ✭✭
    If you really want to post in a place that is not SRK people could just start using the forum we already have on Dustloop.com more often, I guess.

    Overall, I think starting a completely new forum for SG would be a huge mistake. It would split the players up and confuse new comers.
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  • nicknytenicknyte Joined: Posts: 4
    Sorry, new account. Just stopping by from Smashboards. I'd be up for helping creating a Forum so tournaments can be established around the area. I think the skullgirls community could really need one. I really think however, we should coordinate with Mike Z.

    BrandX, thanks for all the respect you gave us in smashboards. I wouldn't be checking SRK if it wasn't for ya.
  • ubertranceubertrance Joined: Posts: 65
    It was too big.

    They needed to make a reduced 6MB patch compared to the 50MB one.
    M$ has a 4MB patch limit for XBLA games, this with a patch thats over 500MB, M$ flipped their shit. The fix tha tRagnorok64 said is what I heard as the possible solution. Mike Z said they cant reveal more info due to legal reason which I fully respect..
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  • KristophKristoph sing my lullaby Joined: Posts: 425
    0sh's post sums everything up nicely. Ultimately, I don't like the idea of a serious competitive community being tied down by the developer in any way, even if they're really cool and sexy developers. Right now we're pretty small, so I think official forums would be perfectly suitable at this time, but I just want to stress that in the long run, the more autonomy, the better.

    Official forums are an improvement though, so I'd be pleased with that too. Unfortunately, that would mean waiting around until whenever the 360 patch drops (ugh). If there's any way we could get the official forum sooner rather than later, that would be really nice. Is that even possible?
    If you really want to post in a place that is not SRK people could just start using the forum we already have on Dustloop.com more often, I guess.

    Overall, I think starting a completely new forum for SG would be a huge mistake. It would split the players up and confuse new comers.
    For Skullgirls, Dustloop is totally dead, and not that many people in the ASW community seem to support the game. So that's the last place we should be looking to as a "central hub" of anything. If anything would confuse newcomers, that would be it.
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  • 0sh0sh Sumgai Joined: Posts: 408
    Official forums are an improvement though, so I'd be pleased with that too. Unfortunately, that would mean waiting around until whenever the 360 patch drops (ugh). If there's any way we could get the official forum sooner rather than later, that would be really nice. Is that even possible?
    I think that this will be what ultimately decides whether we do this or not. If we were to get an indication the forums would be up within, say, the next two months then I would be more than happy to just wait. If, however, the developers want to focus on the PC port etc. or they have absolutely no idea when it will happen then we can look at going independent.

    MikeZ still hasn't replied to the first PM I sent him (probably because he's swamped with messages about the donation drive and/or just taking a break after it all), but if Master Chibi or someone else with another way of contacting him could check this I'd be grateful.
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  • AsteriskBlueAsteriskBlue Joined: Posts: 490 ✭✭
    For Skullgirls, Dustloop is totally dead, and not that many people in the ASW community seem to support the game. So that's the last place we should be looking to as a "central hub" of anything. If anything would confuse newcomers, that would be it.

    Oh I know its dead. Been that way for a couple months now. Im just saying if being on SRK bothers people that much...
    That being said I dont think moving to any other forum is good idea right now. I would That is an idea that should maybe be revisited after the the game is (hopefully) updated on 360. That way we could see if the there will be enough players interested in discussing the game online to warrant it.

    Also, about a while back during a salty cupcakes stream, when the future of SG seemed a lot(a LOT) more bleak, Someone asked Mike about official forums in the chat. His reply was something along the lines of "....Forums? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....".
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  • nicknytenicknyte Joined: Posts: 4
    I contacted Mike Z on facebook, and said we should go ahead and start our own forum. He said that SG.com most likely will not have one. I will show proof.

    sgforum.png

    I hope that clears up some confusion. Sorry for the low post count here. I'd like to add more credence to this post, but its all I got. I've been in contact with him because I wanted to try out for some possible voice acting roles (Brain Drain).
  • Master ChibiMaster Chibi .: Dynamites! :. Joined: Posts: 14,934 mod
    I talked to the actual CEO of Lab Zero games though, since he asked me to be a mod on the forums when they open up lol

    Do what you will then~
  • shirzshirz One last gamburu Joined: Posts: 19
    I talked to the actual CEO of Lab Zero games though, since he asked me to be a mod on the forums when they open up lol

    Do what you will then~

    Wait they're actually working on the forums?
  • specsspecs Excuse me, princess! Joined: Posts: 6,211 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, I must admit, I've been too venomous about this whole thing. There are bad seeds in both communities and I don't want to become one of them.
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  • nicknytenicknyte Joined: Posts: 4
    Yea. I am a smasher. I have SG downloaded on the XBOX, but I don't play it much, but I am definately not a bad seed. I just want to help out a fellow community. I think smashers and SGers can help eachother.
  • 0sh0sh Sumgai Joined: Posts: 408
    @Nicknyte: You seem cool, so welcome to SRK! Also, thanks for contacting Mike Z.

    @Chibi: Well, as I said before we can always look at merging with the official forums if it starts creating problems, but in the meantime we get to choose what features we want, etc.. (Also, I would totally want you as a mod too, lol).

    @AsteriskBlue:I can see your point, but the reason I think that we should do it now is that we have momentum and interest going strong after the donation drive, while your argument seems to center on the fact that SG has only a small community and it would therefore be a lot of work to get another forum up and running, which I do not think would be the case even if we didn't have the extra attention right now.

    So I'm thinking that we should go ahead with this, which leaves us in the previous position of needing to raise $350.
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  • HawkingbirdHawkingbird Got ripped in 2 weeks thanks to the Master Emerald Joined: Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's no point in waiting for the 360 patch. Microsoft being a dick about it I bet the PC port will be released before the patch comes to 360
  • VulpesVulpes No. Joined: Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭
    Selfquote on the forums thing
    Starcraft 2, WoW, and League of Legends have official forums and they're some of the most popular games anywhere. Smash Bros. has its own dedicated forum, separate from SRK, and I don't see them in any trouble. The smash bros. community probably even grew because it had its own hub; Melee is still hosted at major tournaments and that game is 11-12 years old.

    And which of these games is an indie game and part of a popular genre which has a massively traffic catching general board with a subforum for said game?

    The thing is, a lot of people like it here (me included). It's not like we have no room or silly rules to follow (we got char subboards and even our OTT back), and most people liking SG also like other FGs for which this forum provides a platform. If you create an official forum, this here isn't going to disappear (at the very least it's gonna stay to draw in players who happen to find this subforum and wonder what this game is).
    That means: The community is split in half. That means: One has to crosscopy each and every sensible post, or one of the forums (this subboard vs official forums) will 'come out on top' and everyone will emigrate there with the other side dying.
    If the offical forums die, they were senseless to begin with. If this SRK subsection dies, we become a hyper closed-off community with little to no fresh blood ever.

    Single forums are good for games which are "too big" to just be subboard (see SC2, WoW, etc) or ones where you're a closed off community to begin with and/or there simply isn't any overlying genreforum for whatever game you're playing (so you have no choice). Neither of these is the case here.

    You severely underestimate the effect of the "random factor" in regards to community growth. For AAA titles or very specific games it is indeed irrelevant (nobody with a console that is interested in shooters will go to an FPS forum and then think "Call of Duty? Haven't heard _that_ one before! Let's check it out"; and neither will a GC owner not know what Smash\Melee is); indie games thrive off getting a bigger community via 'leeching' it off big general forums.
    I'm very thankful for this subboard and am confident SG wouldn't have had half the sales if the devs had gone with an "official forums" solution from the get-go, rather than settling here.
    Why.
  • 0sh0sh Sumgai Joined: Posts: 408
    I've split your post up to make it easier to respond to:
    The thing is, a lot of people like it here (me included). It's not like we have no room or silly rules to follow (we got char subboards and even our OTT back), and most people liking SG also like other FGs for which this forum provides a platform. If you create an official forum, this here isn't going to disappear (at the very least it's gonna stay to draw in players who happen to find this subforum and wonder what this game is).
    I also like it here, and dont see new forums as a complete replacement to SRK at all. However, SRK has a number of limitations from frequent slow/downtime and having much less control over how the community is run. The part I put in bold is actually a good thing - even if the community is 'divided in half' as you put it, they won't exist in isolation from each other and I can see it creating a feedback loop that benefits the community rather than detracts from it.
    That means: The community is split in half. That means: One has to crosscopy each and every sensible post, or one of the forums (this subboard vs official forums) will 'come out on top' and everyone will emigrate there with the other side dying.
    If the offical forums die, they were senseless to begin with. If this SRK subsection dies, we become a hyper closed-off community with little to no fresh blood ever.
    I agree and disagree with this. It's true that there would be some initial redundacy as most of the inital players would just come from existing forums like this, but there would eventually also be new blood coming in from elsewhere. I personally know several people who love fighting games but flat-out refuse to join SRK because of its reputation. Your logic could also be inverted to say that more sites means more places people to potentially come into contact with Skullgirls.
    Single forums are good for games which are "too big" to just be subboard (see SC2, WoW, etc) or ones where you're a closed off community to begin with and/or there simply isn't any overlying genreforum for whatever game you're playing (so you have no choice). Neither of these is the case here.
    Again, I see your point here but have to disagree because in its own way, Skullgirls is "too big to just be a subboard". One of the things to some out of the donation drive is that there are a lot of people who are also interested in the world and art of Skullgirls that may not necessarily be interested playing the game competitively, and I think that Skullgirls as a whole would benefit from embracing that community just as much as it would form more tournaments, etc.

    I can't remember if it was Mike or Alex who said it, but one of them mentioned on stream that there had been some interest in expanding the franchise beyond 2D fighters, but money was an issue as always. If this were to happen in the future, then I doubt SRK would give it the attention it deserves for the simple reason that it's not a fighting game (or potentially not even a game, in the case of comics, etc.).

    Also, even if you only want to think about the gaming side of it, there are a lot of other bonuses. A wiki could be hosted for frame data/etc. (SRK has one, but few people know about it and it's currently down, suprise, suprise.), as well as features for leaderboards, etc. if people want it. Ultimately iy comes down to us being able to do what we want or feel we need, rather than just what SRK allows us to do.
    You severely underestimate the effect of the "random factor" in regards to community growth. For AAA titles or very specific games it is indeed irrelevant (nobody with a console that is interested in shooters will go to an FPS forum and then think "Call of Duty? Haven't heard _that_ one before! Let's check it out"; and neither will a GC owner not know what Smash\Melee is); indie games thrive off getting a bigger community via 'leeching' it off big general forums.

    I'm very thankful for this subboard and am confident SG wouldn't have had half the sales if the devs had gone with an "official forums" solution from the get-go, rather than settling here.
    Agree with the first part, though SRK isn't going anywhere. As for the second, you might be right, but that doesn't mean that we haven't outgrown SRK or that it isn't time to expand.


    EDIT: tl;dr: I see SRK and a Skullgirls-specific forum as having entirely different purposes that can co-exist within the community.
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  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,004 ✭✭✭
    A Lab Zero forum like Platinum Games has http://community.platinumgames.com/forum.php is something I can dig.
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  • 0sh0sh Sumgai Joined: Posts: 408
    A Lab Zero forum like Platinum Games has http://community.platinumgames.com/forum.php is something I can dig.
    And that's more or less what this would be except that being independent would give us more scope to, for example, complain about Microsoft (which would probably either not be allowed or closely watched if Lab Zero ran it, for fear of making things worse).
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  • Chrono_TataChrono_Tata Joined: Posts: 12
    Just a thought; would it be possible for a fan forum to be "officially endorsed" by Lab Zero, having benefits like having a direct link from the Skullgirls.com site, while still being independent, or would that create too much (potentially legal) complication?

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  • 0sh0sh Sumgai Joined: Posts: 408
    Just a thought; would it be possible for a fan forum to be "officially endorsed" by Lab Zero, having benefits like having a direct link from the Skullgirls.com site, while still being independent, or would that create too much (potentially legal) complication?

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    Possibly, except the term 'officially endorsed' is probably a bit much to hope for, because it would mean that they are responsible for anything that goes on the site. They could always just acknowledge it as a central hub for the community, but that of course requires us to prove ourselves first.
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  • Number 13Number 13 The Courage to Skullgirl Joined: Posts: 1,545
    Ok a bit over 24 hours has passed . Unfortunately, my friend is busy with other things atm to help fund this website and I don't think he is too interested in this game to begin with("The Art doesn't agree with me" ). I can help contribute to pay out of my own pocket(Although i can't go into the triple digits atm unless we wait a bit) though if we are serious with this.I'll leave that offer in the air.

    I suggest waiting at least a week or two before we start though so it would give some people enough time to get some $ back after the Donation Drive squeezing some peoples wallets dry.
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  • KristophKristoph sing my lullaby Joined: Posts: 425
    I overlooked the possibility of Lab Zero branching out to a non-fighter. That would be another good reason to have an independent site, since we'd be able to discuss/cover that too. Which is great, because as 0sh said, Skullgirls is pretty unique in how interested people are in it for non-competitive reasons.

    I would just throw down the money right now if I could, but it'll be a few months before my new job starts and until then I need to save every penny I have.
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  • fluxcorefluxcore Fighting Kiwi Joined: Posts: 291
    IF the community is to move to a separate site, I don't quite understand the desire to use a commercial forum software, to be honest. Saving $250 sounds like a good idea to me, although I am a bit of an open source advocate.

    I would recommend SMF, however it has kind of turned to shit a bit in recent years. Wedge isn't out yet... how about FluxBB? Has a good name.. haha!

    I could also put my name forward for web dev work if necessary, happy to help out however. That is not to say web DESIGN, but dev work if we want any custom work like google calendar integration or whatnots.
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  • Lord_RaptorLord_Raptor Joined: Posts: 8,462 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lets just stay on SRK, seriously what do we really gain from seperating off with such a small community?
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  • worldjem7worldjem7 Seven World Jems Joined: Posts: 544
    I don't think our community is small, it's just really spread out thin across the world.

    SkullGirls at SRK only attracts the competitive players, but there's plenty more people interested in the art, the lore, the voices and the Lab Zero team that would probably join a SkullGirls forum.

    It wouldn't surprise me if people didn't want to come to SRK because it seemed too intimidating because of its competitive background.
  • 0sh0sh Sumgai Joined: Posts: 408
    IF the community is to move to a separate site, I don't quite understand the desire to use a commercial forum software, to be honest. Saving $250 sounds like a good idea to me, although I am a bit of an open source advocate.

    I would recommend SMF, however it has kind of turned to shit a bit in recent years. Wedge isn't out yet... how about FluxBB? Has a good name.. haha!

    I could also put my name forward for web dev work if necessary, happy to help out however. That is not to say web DESIGN, but dev work if we want any custom work like google calendar integration or whatnots.
    I personally use a lot of open source software, and even occasionally contribute to it. However, the reason I want to use paid forum software is because this is going to be open to a large number of people so I would want the trifecta of Security, Longevity, and Support (and having extra features is also nice - a lot of open-source software places too much emphasis on being lightweight at the expense of rather basic features). Many of the free forums have one or two of these but I've yet to see one that has all three up to a decent level, so I'd want to at least eventually switch to a paid alternative and my logic is that if we can do this straight away then we don't have to deal with the hassle of migrating software at a later stage. That said, hosting is a necessity while good software is a luxury (albeit a high-priority one), so if we really have trouble raising money I guess we could go down that route.

    Also, I'll keep you in mind if I need any help setting things up, though to be honest I'm still trying to figure our what features the site is going to have and in what order they should be implemented.

    @Number 13: Thanks for the offer. I don't want to wait too long before starting, both because I don't want to lose momentum but also because my university starts back at the end of this month and the first week or two is always really busy. But there's also quite a bit of groundwork I want to do anyway, so I probably won't be asking for money before this time next week at the very earliest but it helps to let people know in advance.

    EDIT: @Lord_Raptor - I've set out why I think it's a good idea in my previous posts (EDIT2: unless you meant that as a rhetorical question, I was assuming not when replying), though you don't have to agree with me. The SRK sub-forum also won't be dying any time soon and we're not trying to rival what SRK offers, so I think having both places would be beneficial to the community as a whole.
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  • DrinkingFoodDrinkingFood Every day i'm SHFFLin' Joined: Posts: 32
    Lets just stay on SRK, seriously what do we really gain from seperating off with such a small community?
    A lot of the things the smash community has, such as a site targeted to the community's needs rather than a dozen communities' needs, as well as a kind of separatist attitude that long-term is valuable for cohesiveness and brotherliness. Separatist may be the wrong word, so to elaborate, I mean the idea that you have to run things for yourself because nobody's on your side. That kind of thing. It's a huge source of the smash community's strength, to know that unless we're running this, nobody is. Granted, you guys still have Lab Zero to help you, but there's no way they can do everything needed to keep a large community strong by themselves, especially when they're busy developing the game itself. Most communities don't need this because they aren't relying on one game to last them for many years and because they get a lot of sponsorship from their devs, but smash does need it, and skullgirls likely will as well.
  • Number 13Number 13 The Courage to Skullgirl Joined: Posts: 1,545
    Yeah I agree if we wait TOO long the momentum we got will get lost.

    This will require some planning and organization for this not being half-assed so i think maybe a week will suffice if we can get enough support among the community for this

    Should we make another thread that discusses this possible venture?
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  • GHNekoGHNeko SYMPTONS INCLUDE RESETS, TICK THROWS & INPUT LAG Joined: Posts: 622
    Putting my offer back on the table about hosting your site/forum.

    I don't have a free host either. I pay for my shit, and I essentially have a fuck ton of storage and essentially "unlimited" bandwidth. I put unlimited in quotation because it technically is unlimited, but extremely high server loads (which happens from time to time with every new release of Project: M) knock me down for a few hours.

    That being said, I dont have shit like IPB or XenFro or w/e. So if you guys want to pony up for that, be my guest.

    SMF is master race imo tho.
  • AsteriskBlueAsteriskBlue Joined: Posts: 490 ✭✭
    Should we make another thread that discusses this possible venture?

    YES. I don't think some people know that this is topic being dicussed here. It needs its own thread...maybe with a poll
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  • 0sh0sh Sumgai Joined: Posts: 408
    Indeed, and this thread can return to being about strengthening ties between Smash and Skullgirls.

    Also @GHNeko Cool, thanks. We'll see if it is possible to raise enough money to do it ourselves, but if not I'll keep that in mind.
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  • KrispKrisp Joined: Posts: 39
    Woah guys can't believe we raised 225 MILLION dollars together! Take that bill gates.


    I swear to god if ign reuploaded the video already with a correction. Also your site doesn't allow for time stamps and I'm not doing it AGAIN on a phone so skip ahead to Evo news half way through.

    Anyways congratulations on the dual win for Evo that we both asked for. It's nice sg is getting mad recognition after all they did. Enjoy CEO and whatever keits calls his tourney. We'll hopefully be at winter melee 7 ( yeah I said it) fist bump?
  • Number 13Number 13 The Courage to Skullgirl Joined: Posts: 1,545
    Woah guys can't believe we raised 225 MILLION dollars together!
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    Wonder if even The Wolf could save IGN on how to research properly
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  • Possibly DohnutPossibly Dohnut Joined: Posts: 68
    Woah guys can't believe we raised 225 MILLION dollars together! Take that bill gates.
    I swear to god if ign reuploaded the video already with a correction. Also your site doesn't allow for time stamps and I'm not doing it AGAIN on a phone so skip ahead to Evo news half way through.

    Anyways congratulations on the dual win for Evo that we both asked for. It's nice sg is getting mad recognition after all they did. Enjoy CEO and whatever keits calls his tourney. We'll hopefully be at winter melee 7 ( yeah I said it) fist bump?

    Wow, IGN as smart as ever it seems.
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  • 0sh0sh Sumgai Joined: Posts: 408
    IGN used to actually be pretty reliable. Hopefully now that they've been sold off by News Corp. they can return to proper reporting.
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