Additional Moves for Characters:

X Fatal Grace X

Does anyone else feel that many characters could benefit from more "character specific" moves or options?
I feel there could be room to add some moves to characters and want to hear your opinions as well- if not as a future update in UMvC3, then in MvC4.

Off the top of my head:

~Benefit somehow from healing factor:
-Wolverine
-Deadpool
-X23

~Spider-man:
-wall cling option
-A use for Spider Sense: a move (via V.Joe) or a Super that slows time (via Ammy)

~Taskmaster
"I know your moves!!"
Edit: "I know your moves (mumbles) only if your Cap, Spidey, Hawkeye, or Black Knight!!!!!"
-Shades of old school Rogue, able to steal moves from opponent he is facing.. He is the master of thousands of moves, yet only copies a hand full of characters?

~Super Skrull
-more use of invisible woman's powers, the blocking bubble shield is it? Really?

Will add more later..these are just the few that came directly to me. Interested to see what others can add or come up with. Keep it true to character, use your imagination and have fun :)

MysticRay

I actually love the idea of Spider Sense.
It should be like Vale of Mist.

M.D.

That wouldn't make "sense" cause all team members would benefit from it despite not having spidey sense and it would still be activated when spidey tags out.

MysticRay

M.D., post: 7967369, member: 9219 wrote:

That wouldn't make "sense" cause all team members would benefit from it despite not having spidey sense and it would still be activated when spidey tags out.

I was kinda vague on what I want. Anyway, Spider Sense could be a Vale of Mist HC that only works when Spider-man is on the field. Spidey "spawns" while wall-clinging on the top corner of the screen (if being DHC'ed into) (making him virtually safe from everything). He has about 7 or 8 seconds of slow-time before the move ends.

<Insert Name Here>

Spider Sense sounds like a counter move to me.

DeskLampTV

<Insert Name Here>, post: 7967413, member: 34987 wrote:

Spider Sense sounds like a counter move to me.

Same. I always thought of as a dodge that leaves the opponent wide open for an attack if they swing at you. Maybe it could make them go slow motion for a second or two and they can't cancel into anything except maybe X-factor, and then you have the opportunity to attack them however way you want.

Swedish Chef

Haggarcopter fly mode.

just5moreminutes

Guys, we have a move exactly like the Spider-Sense you are describing. How often do you see Wesker use it, again?

I do agree with the part about Taskmaster. If nothing else, he should be able to do a Shoryuken. Also...

Spoiler:

• Strange: Air Dash. Nothing major, maybe just give him Dante's air dash properties or something.
• Ghost Rider: A GODDAMN OVERHEAD. Seriously, it would make him so much better if he got a full-screen overhead.
• Iron Fist: DIVE KICK PLZ
• Frank: How about some more moves from Dead Rising? Lariat, Somersault Kick, Face Crusher as a command throw, and his wall-jump dive kick would be nice.
• Nemesis: A level 5 where, on KO, he turns into his final form from his level 3. Think of a playable Galactus with more tentacles. Bingo.
• Akuma: Air-Ok Raging Demon
• Arthur: A dash.

Rokmode

give everyone a Teleport

guiarroyos

Dr. Strange should have a float like Storm's, I think it would be better than an air dash. They should somehow implement these iconic magical spells like Mists of Munnopor, Vapors of Valtorr, Winds of Watoomb (maybe like Storm's Fair Wind/ Magneto's Repulsion?), Shield of Seraphim (his blocking should be this shield!). Also PLEASE they should fix his "Astral Magic - Daggers of Denak!". Those are the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak!
Also if they give Strange an air dash they would nerf Impact Palm (otherwise we would have an infinite of fly IP air dash IP... because IP does not scale) destroying almost everything the community has discovered by far (flame loop included). Otherwise his air dash would be crappy slow, not able to cancel specials or in a way like Super-Skrull's air dash.

LegendaryDJ

Still waiting on Thor to throw his hammer.

I was also disappointed that Nova didn't have a non-hyper beam move, but the pulses are pretty unique and cool.

Spidey should definitely have a spider sense of some kind. Like a counter super with a cooler cinematic than all the other counter supers.

Deadpool should have sword normals, or a command normal that uses his sword.

Jill should use her guns more. Same with Trish. Same with Rocky.

I personally think Shuma's whole design should be reworked to something more super, super, "I eat entire universes in my down time" god like, instead of "I got tentacles, let's play."

I could make a whole list for the Marvel side of things, but even still I say that for the most part, they got everyone spot on.

X Fatal Grace X

LegendaryDJ, post: 7967952, member: 51510 wrote:

Still waiting on Thor to throw his hammer.

This- Hahahaha. Very large over site.

motion51

nova beam could be .

uses red health to boost speed and width of beam.

Brewski_420

It seems like a lot of the characters are missing something or play differently than you think they would in comics but It's fine in my opinion. I think each and every character is unique enough and have their basic powers and abilities for how many characters there are. The game that is coming to mind is Injustice when it comes to making each character feel like they are THAT character but then again Injustice is most likely going to have around HALF the characters as Marvel.

X Fatal Grace X

just5moreminutes, post: 7967512, member: 45295 wrote:

Guys, we have a move exactly like the Spider-Sense you are describing. How often do you see Wesker use it, again?

Why does Wesker need to use it?

just5moreminutes

X Fatal Grace X, post: 7968922, member: 65487 wrote:

Why does Wesker need to use it?

What would Spider-Man possibly get out of a counter? He spends most of the match in the air, anyway.

X Fatal Grace X

just5moreminutes, post: 7968982, member: 45295 wrote:

What would Spider-Man possibly get out of a counter? He spends most of the match in the air, anyway.

Not so much a counter as an escape dodge. I don't see spider sense as a counter.. But what he could get out of it if it were a counter? Same thing any one else w/a counter can use it for.. An oh shit button to Biooooneeeiiiicccccccckkk arrrrrrrmmmmaaaahhhhhaa and other melee supers of the sort, of course :)

just5moreminutes

X Fatal Grace X, post: 7968991, member: 65487 wrote:

Not so much a counter as an escape dodge. I don't see spider sense as a counter.. But what he could get out of it if it were a counter? Same thing any one else w/a counter can use it for.. An oh shit button to Biooooneeeiiiicccccccckkk arrrrrrrmmmmaaaahhhhhaa and other melee supers of the sort, of course :)

But he already has Crawler Assault, and even Maximum Spider to an extent, for that. If we make it a dodge, then we run into another issue:
How is anyone ever going to hit that smarmy little prick? If he's not zipping around the screen, now he's just going to dodge your attacks.

X Fatal Grace X

just5moreminutes, post: 7969024, member: 45295 wrote:

But he already has Crawler Assault, and even Maximum Spider to an extent, for that. If we make it a dodge, then we run into another issue:
How is anyone ever going to hit that smarmy little prick? If he's not zipping around the screen, now he's just going to dodge your attacks.

True to an extent on the first two points.

Second issue: two words- Viewtiful Joe :)

AKZuM

Ironman,Spider-man,Jill,Amaterasu,Vergil(lolvergil), and maybe a few others should get more moves

(Meteor smash = Invisible Woman+The Thing powers)

Roy Lingo

I think Wesker should get a move where he shoots two bullets from the Samurai Edge.

WorstPlayer

AKZuM, post: 7969062, member: 6957 wrote:

Ironman,Spider-man,Jill,Amaterasu,Vergil(lolvergil), and maybe a few others should get more moves

(Meteor smash = Invisible Woman+The Thing

Actually I believe meteor smash is more moving really fast than turning invisible, shit you can see him afterall.

I want my healing factors for applicable Marvel characters and a hulk smash mechanic. Nemesis could be reworked a bit too. Hit throws from deadly reach would be hot. Also better armor properties. Nemesis needs to be damn near psychic as things are.

charlie88

If there are characters who can't otg or can get up backed they need either some sort of unblockable or they need a way to deal damage without meter off a throw.

RadicalFuzz

I forget the name of it, but Dante's version of Round Trip from DMC3 would be really cool. It'd be a series of hits, more so than Vergil's that just kinda floats across the screen. And Dante's main weapon is Rebellion, so he would have almost none of his normals available.

<Insert Name Here>

X Fatal Grace X, post: 7969037, member: 65487 wrote:

Second issue: two words- Viewtiful Joe :)

V-Dodge isn't that good.

Unless that was your point?

shinquickman

Characters not listed on this list are ones that already have a move I would want for them on someone else's list or characters I don't know or care enough about to make new moves.

Jill- Something like Hawkeye's jump+shoot move, but with a gun.
Nemesis- A more limited Meteor Smash
Phoenix Wright- A move dealing with Maya's sister (forgot her name)
Chris- Horizontal air shot
Frank- A move dealing with a shotgun
Zero- Wall jump
Ryu- f.HP from ST
Tron- MVC2 Sattelites
Akuma- Short teleports
Haggar- Hammer-tossing from Final Fight 3


Shuma- A teleport
Hawkeye- Wall-bouncing arrow
Iron-Fist- Hundred Hand Slap-like move
Rocket-Raccoon- A sort of camo-ambush move
Captain America- s.FP from the old games
Iron Man- A missile barrage hyper similar to War Destroyer
Dr. Doom- Something involving magic
Storm- A meter charging move in the air
MODOK- S Air Psionic blast
Sentinel- Eye beams
Hulk- A ground move where Hulk does a sonic clap and negates projectiles
Taskmaster- A move stolen from a Street Fighter.

FuLLBLeeD

Yeah Iron Man needs another hyper instead of two versions of the same shitty one.

JetpackJesus808

Skrull needs an assist where he uses Invisible Woman's powers to make a shield. It would basically be MODOK's Big Barrier as an assist, but it lasts only about as long as Repulsor Blast (maybe a slight bit shorter) and Skrull is out the entire time, vulnerable to attack if the opponent jumps over the barrier. It's not instant either, so no lol-DP Assist, but it'd be a good way to stop people from starting pressure on someone like Dorm or Sentinel.

Din0

If you kill Magneto with 5 meters, he should turn into Onslaught.

Benji41

Magneto with ouroboros. Similar to Vergil but,with metal surrounding him or his opponent.

X Fatal Grace X

Wow... Some good stuff here. I know different people are fans of different characters and can bring cool perspectives on each of them.

Keep it up people!

eivellordsm2

FuLLBLeeD, post: 7971618, member: 14909 wrote:

Yeah Iron Man needs another hyper instead of two versions of the same shitty one.

but..but... it's angled

The Martian

Dormammu should have a super that alters reality and TOD's the other person's entire team

kantboy2

Wolverine, X-23, Deadpool - Healing factor - Lvl 3 - gradual 20% life bar increase - 15% speed decrease while healing

Spider-man - Spider Sense - Lvl 1 - opponent slows down if hit, automatic deactivation if spidey tags out or gets hit
Spectacular Spider-man - Lvl 3 - counter super - every hit a still-image like flash photograph with Spidey pose on last hit.

Nemesis - True Target - Lvl 1 - throws rocket launcher up into the air, gains 25% speed boost overall for 7 sec./loses rocket/rocket super for same amount of time. Rocket launcher drops back like Cap shield.
A few frames of invincibility for his Lvl 3.

Jill - knee drop - L (down back)/M (down)/H (down fwd.)
A new Lvl 1 Super like Spidey/X-23
One of Us - Lvl 3 - similar to Gen Death Touch - opponent needle stabbed/gradual life decrease/stopped if Jill is hit or tagged out

X Fatal Grace X

<Insert Name Here>, post: 7971488, member: 34987 wrote:

V-Dodge isn't that good.

Unless that was your point?

Original point was: Spider-man is a smarmy little prick who is hard to hit. Why should he be given more tools to keep that up?

Cause V. Joe has them- why not Spidey?

just5moreminutes

X Fatal Grace X, post: 7973466, member: 65487 wrote:

Original point was: Spider-man is a smarmy little prick who is hard to hit. Why should he be given more tools to keep that up?

Cause V. Joe has them- why not Spidey?

Because Spider-Man is way faster in the air than Joe? It's a bit unfair to compare Joe's dive kicks and air dash to Spidey's Web Zips. Spider-Man moves much further, much faster.

SHAZAMforInjustice

Change Hawkeye's defeat quote to "Not like this!"

kantboy2

Captain America - Hyper Shield Slash - Lvl 1 - 3 consecutive Shield Slashes accross screen/ first and last hits connect twice.

Thor - Hammer Spin - Thor's version of the Mega Buster - charges until thrown

Iron Man - Missile Launcher - L (crouching H animation/down forward) M (standing/forward) H (up forward)

Smart Bomb Barrage - Lvl 1 - 10 to 12 Smart Bombs thrown at up/forward angle travelling on arc. Hold L for 1/3 screen, M for 1/2 screen, H for 2/3 screen.

WMD - Lvl 1 - Iron Man's War Destroyer - 10 hits

new crouching H.

Swedish Chef

Being able to do air dashes and an raging demon in the air like Oni would also be cool.

Steelguttey

How bout we just put oni in the game? And take out Akuma? I like that idea better.

GodotsRevenge

Phoenix Wright could have a Magatama command grab in Investigation mode, actual attacks with Missile, and a desk slam OTG in Trial mode.

WorstPlayer

X Fatal Grace X wrote: »

LegendaryDJ, post: 7967952, member: 51510 wrote:

Still waiting on Thor to throw his hammer.

This- Hahahaha. Very large over site.

Thor throws his hammer, he just holds onto it. Its called mighty strike.

discovigilante

My friends and I have always said Doom should have a "Summon Doombot" hyper that works like Kitty Helper but with foot dives.

Xr0s-up

GodotsRevenge wrote: »

Phoenix Wright could have a Magatama command grab in Investigation mode, actual attacks with Missile, and a desk slam OTG in Trial mode.

The desk slam OTG would look so slick

discovigilante wrote: »

My friends and I have always said Doom should have a "Summon Doombot" hyper that works like Kitty Helper but with foot dives.

Oh god. Best idea ever

I want Amaterasu to have more of her brush techs like Galestorm working like Fair/Foul Wind.

Iron man needs more weapons like homing missiles

JBoffTheWall

I think Dante and Vergil should have a tag team super that requires 5 bars. Also Dante with Quicksilver, Doppelganger, and Royal Guard as an actual move would be cool.

<Insert Name Here>

JBoffTheWall wrote: »

I think Dante and Vergil should have a tag team super that requires 5 bars.

NO.

JBoffTheWall

<Insert Name Here> wrote: »

JBoffTheWall wrote: »

I think Dante and Vergil should have a tag team super that requires 5 bars.

NO.

Given the amount of meter they both already use it isn't really that bad. Even changes the meta when facing them in a team

<Insert Name Here>

JBoffTheWall wrote: »

<Insert Name Here> wrote: »

JBoffTheWall wrote: »

I think Dante and Vergil should have a tag team super that requires 5 bars.

NO.

Given the amount of meter they both already use it isn't really that bad. Even changes the meta when facing them in a team

I was mostly joking, but in all seriousness, there is zero reason to give them a tag team super, even if it is five meters. It would either end up totally useless or totally stupid, neither of which is desirable.

Besides, changes to this game should make it a little less ridiculous, not more.

SB Maximus

Akuma:
Able to demon flip cancel out of goushoryu
Demon flip cancel out of tatsu
Gets the Kongou Kokuretsu Zan super from 3rd strike.

Dormammu:
2c hits otg
fH becomes more durable
Flame carpet becomes special cancelable
Flight/unflight frames decrease

Vergil:
slight base damage reduction
increase DT time
increase round trip durability
increase hitsphere size of judgement cut

Ryu:
Denjin-Hadouken instead of weird shinkuu in denjin mode.
cr.L hits otg, for throw confirms
faster walkspeed
frame decrease for Hadouken startups.