Learning a New Character

uhfutzafookenuhfutzafooken Joined: Posts: 22
Hey all. New to the SRK forums here and figured this could be a good topic for the newbie dojo. I'm interested in what your philosophies are behind picking a character (doesn't matter what game, just talkin fighting games in general), and how you handle the process of learning how to be effective with them. Does the character have to look a certain way for you to play them? Do they have to be top tier? Do you have to have some prior knowledge about their backstory or have played them before in the case of sequels or crossover games? Do they have to fit a certain fighting style like a keepaway character or a grappler?

For me, I have to at least like how the character looks and acts onscreen. Even if they're god tier, if I don't think they look cool I'm not going to touch them. I also look for ease of use. I play on a pad and have never had great execution, so if their combos and movement require crazy fast inputs I'm going to shy away. Grapplers are almost always lumped into that category because I find 360s to be a huge pain in the arse (except for Cerebella). Other than that, I don't look for a particular fighting style because for me the characters I pick dictate my playstyle, not the other way around. It varies from game to game. In crossover games I always try out the characters I can recognize first, like all of the X-Men, Street Fighter, and DMC characters in the Marvel series, but in sequels of older game series I usually try out the new additions first because I should already be mostly familiar with the old cast. In the end though, I rarely settle on the ones I try out at the beginning. In this day and age with match videos and forums all over the place, watching high-level matches and tournaments ends up having a big impact on who I decide to play as well. If a character looks awesome in tournaments and I see some guys owning with them, its going to make me really want to try them out for myself (watching videos of Duc at Evo really inspired me to get better with Cable and Spiral, and watching Daigo at Canada Cup a couple years ago rekindled my love for Guile). I guess overall the most important things for me when I pick a character are how they look and sound while they fight, and they have to be relatively easy to use. I will admit that I'm a bit of a tier whore as well...I don't always go for the tip-top, but I usually try to pick out of the top 25-50% of the cast.

Once you're interested in a particular character, how do you get better with them? When I first started out playing fighting games I always hopped around different characters because I just didn't know what to do, and I feel like a lot of new players sort of plateau after they get the basics down with whoever they play. Nowadays, I kind of have a system for learning a new character. I start off with messing around with their normal moves, figuring out how to do all their special moves and supers, checking out how they move around, the real basics. Then I try out some simple bread and butter combos and/or links. At this point if I feel awkward with the character or don't like how their moves and basic combos feel, I'll drop them and try someone else. Its a hard notion to describe, but combos have to "feel" natural and fluid for me to want to continue learning how to use a character. Then I look at different ways of starting a combo and different openers like jump-ins, low attacks, throws, assist hits, anti-airs, gimmicky setups, etc. and converting into a full combo. A characters movement should be thoroughly explored at this stage. From there it becomes somewhat character-dependent. If its someone with good mix-up potential I'll look for ways to set up situations that force the opponent to block correctly. If its a zoning character I'll try to perfect some patterns that keep the opponent out. In the Vs. series this is where figuring out what assists are good for your character is crucial. Other things like team synergy become apparent as well and setting up DHCs or team supers. The last things I try out are things like advanced combos and reset opportunities. After that I think all that is left is match-up knowledge and the best way to learn that I think is to just play and see what happens against other characters. Learning how to deal with different situations I feel just has to come with experience.

Anyway, sorry for the long post but I'm always interested in hearing other players' reasons for picking certain characters and what motivates them to play a certain way. I think hearing this stuff from a bunch of experienced players could also help out those who are just starting to play these types of games and don't know where to start, or people who are in a character crisis like I frequently find myself in.
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  • AirLancerAirLancer Just a touch of Honey Joined: Posts: 503 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    Well, let me go over how I picked my char/teams in SF, MvC3 and KOF XIII.

    In any SF I'll use Guile, because he's my favorite SF character. That's it. 'Muhrika.

    MvC3: Initially wanted to use team with Morrigan/Hsien-Ko/???, because I liked their big...personalities. Found that Doctor Doom's hidden missiles complimented Morrigan well, so my team became Morrigan/Hsien-Ko/Doom. Later on realized that Hsien-Ko was awful, and despite my character attachments got rid of her and replaced her with Dormammu. Grew to like both Doom and Dormammu because they're pretty cool guys and don't afraid of anything. Eventually found that my ability with Morrigan was poor, couldn't do much more than basic week 1 combos and soul-soul fist (which was not as effective in vanilla MvC3.) Switched out Morrigan for Haggar, because his assist was amazing and complimented both Doom and Dormammu very well.
    Final Team: Doom/Dorm/Haggar

    KOF XIII: Knew of the characters, but had never really played any previous KOF games. Liked Kula for her appearance/style, same for K', did not know who to pick for last character. Picked Robert for 3rd because my friend picked Robert one day, and I found him extremely annoying, so I fought fire with fire. Eventually began to really like Robert, while I didn't like K' as much as I used to (though I still use him sometimes). Fiddled around with different characters until I settled on Kim, since he's good and fun to play with too.
    Final Team: Kula/Robert/Kim

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    KOF XIII: Kula/Iori/Kim
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  • MykeBoiMykeBoi Joined: Posts: 12
    I don't pick a character i actually let them pick me, it sounds stupid and weird i know but i'll use Tekken and Street fighter for an example

    Tekken 6: When i first put in the game i noticed some new characters, i never had Tekken 5 DR til last year, i saw Lili at the character select screen and just lol fell in love. She was basically everything I hated, a spoiled rich stuck up girl, but she loved to fight. It was nearly like picking out a girlfriend. I went to training with her and saw how she moved. How graceful her moves were and how fast most of them exicuted, i practiced with her every day since the game came out, now i do look on youtube for combo ideas with her but always practice my own. THere was a time where i thought i would never get better with her but i never let that stop me from using her.

    Street Fighter
    I had Super Street Fighter 4 for a long time but never payed attention to it, Tekken fan here, but soon after street fighter x tekken came out i decided to get into it. At first i noticed Juri, something deliciously evil about her smile so I picked her, while I love Juri her moves weren't much to my style, I played sfxt and remembered seeing Ibuki so i wanted to give her a try, a guy i knew at the time was learning her as well, but honestly her taunt from SSFIV made me want to be her. Just by her saying "train harder" she was what i'm all about with fighting games, speed, a female(idk why i just love them) and a somewhat bubbly personality which is why im also attracted to Sakura and Chun Li
  • KikuichimonjiKikuichimonji Watch out, I know frame data Joined: Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭
    How to pick a character:

    Do I like this character? Is this character fun? Do I have options with this character? Can I play this character in a way I enjoy playing/Do I understand this character's gameplan well enough to execute it?

    How to get better with a character:

    A)Work on offense, stopping people from getting out of stuff
    B)Learn how to get around specific stuff people do.

    That's really all there is to it.
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