"Gender issues" themed kickstarter legal scam #2

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edited March 2013 in General Discussion
This time it's way more blunt, but still payed off.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/susanwilson/9-year-old-building-an-rpg-to-prove-her-brothers-w

All the journalists around the world (and I mean around the world, in non-English languages as well) just published it as is without doing any research, or even caring about the blatant demagogy and lack of internal logic. Don't trust journalists.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57575879-1/9-year-old-girls-kickstarter-for-coding-camp-is-crushing-it/
http://www.examiner.com/article/9-year-old-rpg-developer-launches-kickstarter
http://au.businessinsider.com/a-9-year-olds-kickstarter-project-2013-3
http://pulse2.com/2013/03/22/nine-year-old-mackenzie-wilson-raises-over-11000-from-kickstarter-for-video-game-project-82800/


People with some common sense calling her out:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/susanwilson/9-year-old-building-an-rpg-to-prove-her-brothers-w/comments

Example comment:
As a woman, if anyone cares about getting more girls into STEM fields it's me, but this project is a scam. The project creator is extremely well off, and could have sent her daughter to RPG camp for less than the cost of a pair of her own shoes: http://imageshack.us/f/255/shoesv.png/

The biggest lesson being taught to this woman's daughter is "don't pay for something when others will pay for you."
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  • orochizoolanderorochizoolander 2LANDER! Joined: Posts: 11,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    Multi millionaire asks for $829 and gets 22K....hmmm I should make my 1 million dollar kick starter for 12 year olds drawing pictures of ponies my top priority.

    The idea of a little kid making a game for other kids is cute however, the way the scumbag mom is going about it is disgusting..........it should be ME collecting all that stupid cash money not some rich bitch! I hope the 9 year old girl molests one of the female counselors so the ensuing legal battle over the years drains the mom of her funds.


    #Player haters ball.
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  • Negative-Zer0Negative-Zer0 Joined: Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yo kickstrter is easy money. All you have to do is be a female.
    If everyone else could move upwards socially, so can blacks. They are just dumb.
    "This comparison ignores the unique history of discrimination against Black people in America. Over the past four centuries, Black history has included nearly 250 years of slavery, 100 years of legalized discrimination, and only 50 years of anything else. Jews and Asians, on the other hand, are populations that immigrated to North America and included doctors, lawyers, professors, and entrepreneurs among their ranks. Moreover, European Jews are able to function as part of the White majority. To expect Blacks to show the same upward mobility as Jews and Asians is to deny the historical and social reality that Black people face."
  • RECESSIONTIMERECESSIONTIME clever title Joined: Posts: 650 ✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    Honestly, I knew kickstarter was just begging to be abused like this since day 1. If people are willing to shell out over $100,000 for useless shit like videos about female video game stereotypes and "bronies" it doesn't surprise me at all that people are going to cyber-beg using their own children as pivots. There are just too many holes in the site. There's no way to tell how badly these people are scamming you and even if they will actually honor their cause and do the things they have promised. At this point I doubt kick starter will take the page down and that 10k will soon balloon over 100k before the deadline.
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  • RECESSIONTIMERECESSIONTIME clever title Joined: Posts: 650 ✭✭✭
    Did anyone else notice she preemptively included a $10,000 reward level for an $829 goal? Wow I ain't even mad, totally respect the hustle.

    "Kickstarter does not allow charity, cause, or "fund my life" projects. Check out our project guidelines for details."

    I wonder if enough people will report this as a scam to shut it down, and return the money donated. As much as these fools don't deserve it I'd rather them have it then let this greedy 1% **** get another dime.

    I agree with you.

    crowd funding + misandry/feminist cause + think of the children = PROFIT

    At this point I feel stupid for not doing the same thing.
  • NeesaNeesa Tsundere. Joined: Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah. I'm doin this whole shit wrong. Where the fuck is my Kickstater?
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    I made my part and reported that shit, i assume that all of SRK'ers did the same
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  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 9,678 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not more disgusting then asking for money so you can not take pictures when you get there.
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  • HotobuHotobu Simpsonized Joined: Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not more disgusting then asking for money so you can not take pictures when you get there.
    I forget what became of that. People didn't actually pay for her to go did they?

  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Midwest Decepticon Joined: Posts: 14,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    Yeah.........they likely did
    The White Knights were in full effect that day.
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  • crotchpunchacrotchpuncha Joined: Posts: 9,678 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    Hotobu wrote: »
    Not more disgusting then asking for money so you can not take pictures when you get there.
    I forget what became of that. People didn't actually pay for her to go did they?
    They did pay her, she went, she took shitty pictures (there's a reason you can't really find them anywhere) the first day and sat on her ass the rest of the weekend.

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  • Disciple of RyuDisciple of Ryu The King of Iron Fist Joined: Posts: 457 ✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    I thought the point of Kickstarter was to get money from other people to start a project? What does it matter if they are rich? As long as they deliver on what they promise they should be allowed to take stupid people's money.
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  • WilWil Semper Fi Joined: Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭✭
    What matters is if you support the project or not regardless of the financial situation.

    However that Kickstarter project in the opening post is straight up grimey and shady. No way will I pledge to something like that.

    I've backed a few Kickstarter projects. All of them having to do with developing games and art. Some of the product design stuff on there looks interesting too.
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  • Disciple of RyuDisciple of Ryu The King of Iron Fist Joined: Posts: 457 ✭✭✭
    I glanced at the Kickstarter mission statement and it says.

    " Kickstarter Basics: Kickstarter 101

    What's Kickstarter?

    Kickstarter is a funding platform for creative projects. Everything from films, games, and music to art, design, and technology. Kickstarter is full of ambitious, innovative, and imaginative projects that are brought to life through the direct support of others."

    People seem to think it's only for small companies or the common man, it's never been that. It's a common misconception about Kickstarter's purpose and I have no idea how it started. I agree however that this one in particular is kinda shady but there is nothing wrong (morality aside) from rich or established people using Kickstarter for their projects.
  • HotobuHotobu Simpsonized Joined: Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hotobu wrote: »
    Not more disgusting then asking for money so you can not take pictures when you get there.
    I forget what became of that. People didn't actually pay for her to go did they?
    They did pay her, she went, she took shitty pictures (there's a reason you can't really find them anywhere) the first day and sat on her ass the rest of the weekend.

    I can't decide if I find this extremely disappointing or extremely satisfying.

    As for the whole "so what if the mother's rich?" issue: The problem is if stuff like this keeps happening it's a real kick-in-the-nuts to the credibility of the place. Eventually people will just see it as cyber peddling and stop donating to worthy causes. Something like this is the equivalent of those people who beg for money on the street as a living.
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    Her game will still be better than anything Square has released in a decade
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  • ZeroZero Ruler of Dimension X Joined: Posts: 805 ✭✭✭
    Hmmm...so she's using RPG Maker to make an RPG that will be done on July 2013? Around 3 months from the KickStarter end date? Seems like this is just to pay for her RPG school, and her final project will be the RPG game in question.

    Between that, her being an minor, and all the merchandising, this is very suspicious.

    However, I would be shocked if Kickstarter put this down. They should know that White Knights and feminists would descend on Kickstarter with furious anger if they did. They would have to have some major balls to do it.
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  • King9999King9999 Oraoraora...Mudamudamuda Joined: Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    I want to report this to Kickstarter, but there's no "scam" option or anything similar. I'm not going to donate in order to call someone out.

    EDIT: She's been spamming, I guess I could use that option. I'd prefer a scam option, though.
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  • qoqonutsqoqonuts New Member Joined: Posts: 487
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    http://i.imgur.com/zwyRWCa.jpg
    Found that in the comments.

    Also, I'm not the only one that noticed those D&D saves were way too high, am I?
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  • turingtapeturingtape Joined: Posts: 201
    edited March 2013
    And the rich even on this 'even field' seem to reap the biggest rewards because no one can be bothered to demand good works and a lot of domains are basically charity. I actually think kickstarter is killing crowdfunding. If sites like this want to work then I think the donators need the same information a bank would; meaning some data accurately representing the contest holders finances and ability. Removal of a business plan is not progress.

    Check out: http://www.fastcompany.com/1843007/kickstarter-crowdfunding-platform-or-reality-show

    Also -- why can't this lady be bothered raise sons?

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    Zero wrote: »

    However, I would be shocked if Kickstarter put this down. They should know that White Knights and feminists would descend on Kickstarter with furious anger if they did. They would have to have some major balls to do it.
    I don't see them doing it, it's just army of bad media press coming in Kickstarter's way. Kickstarter would be against the public opinion if they even dared to do that.

    It's pretty damn stupid how much Injustice Feminism has caused by their actions.
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    edited March 2013
    When there a way to exploit money from men and the gullible, women will be attracted to take advantage of it.
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  • pheraipherai LIVE FOREVER Joined: Posts: 11,504 mod
    Is there really such a thing as RPG camp? who the hell comes up with this shit...

    and what dolt actually believes this isn't 100% the mothers idea on some tiger mom kick exploiting her daughter? It's like an updated "donate to me or I'll kill this rabbit" scam, just more refined and less crude.
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    How many black-themed Kickstarter scams to I have to astroturf before people start blaming the Civil Rights Movement for shit again?
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    These niggas don't learn. All of the negative attention they're giving this Kickstarter after Kickstarter said it's fine is going to backfire YET AGAIN and she is going to end up with more damn money due to sympathy/white knights. Fucking wack.

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    Mmhmm. The rich get richer.
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    Mike Fraley from Kotatu posted an article on the Internet backlash this has gotten:

    http://kotaku.com/internet-rallies-against-kickstarter-for-nine-year-old-459542190

    People need to understand that receiving threats of violence on the internet are:

    a) Not surprising under any circumstance
    b) Completely empty
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    Zero wrote: »
    People need to understand that receiving threats of violence on the internet are:

    a) Not surprising under any circumstance
    b) Completely empty

    Are you completely sure about that? All threats should be taken seriously. The Internet is capable of ruining people's lives, so I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility to get someone's location.
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    no idea what kickstarter is, but it sounds stupid. almost as stupid as giving a random little kid money for videogame camp. back in my day, if little kids wanted to hustle and raise money they went to bj's (a costco-like store), copped that $16 candy bar set and sold candy hand to hand.
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  • ZeroZero Ruler of Dimension X Joined: Posts: 805 ✭✭✭
    King9999 wrote: »
    Zero wrote: »
    People need to understand that receiving threats of violence on the internet are:

    a) Not surprising under any circumstance
    b) Completely empty

    Are you completely sure about that? All threats should be taken seriously. The Internet is capable of ruining people's lives, so I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility to get someone's location.

    I am completely sure about that.

    To clarify, I'm referring to threats of violence from people you do not know or have personally effected.
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    edited March 2013
    I won't be surprised if Kotaku is taking a hilarious stance in the face of the facts just to piss people off and get page views.
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    The OP included a link from examiner.com. Let's not pretend that this thread had any standards in the first place.
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    That's because Clark Kent is one of their bloggers.
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